Created By: Pichu-kun on September 19, 2017 Last Edited By: Pichu-kun on February 27, 2018
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Powerful People Are Subs

People with high amounts of power like being submissive in bed.

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There's an old cliche that powerful people tend to submissive when it comes to sex. For one reason or another, they prefer being subs in BDSM or are otherwise submissive during sex. This often relates to power-play. Another reason why this trope can occur is because the person is a leader most of the time so they enjoy having someone else take the role instead.

This often pops up as a joke as well. For example, the serious executive, or another high-ranking individual, has has a secret thing for femdom. In this case, it's almost always an example of All Women Are Doms, All Men Are Subs.

Compare to Aggressive Submissive for when someone has an aggressive personality but does a 180 when it comes to anything sexual, and Brains and Bondage for when BDSM is favored by smart people (who are often powerful as well). See also Best Her to Bed Her and All Amazons Want Hercules, where the person is only willing to love someone that's stronger than they are.

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     Comic Books 
  • Implied in The Authority. Despite being the Superman Substitute of the team, Apollo seems to be the submissive in his relationship with Midnighter.
  • At one point in The Losers, Aisha follows her target (the immensely feared warden of a Hellhole Prison) to the brothel where he goes to be dominated. She waits until the dominatrix has his tied up before entering, chases the woman out, and takes a moment to note the irony of a man who is so feared and has literally decided if others live or die on a whim being in such a predicament. Then she goes to work on him Jack Bauer style.

     Fan Works 
  • This is prevalent in Frozen fanworks. For whatever reason, fans decided that Queen Elsa would be into BDSM. She is almost always submissive either due to her personality or due to the fact it clashes with her role as queen (often times it's used for relaxation in the latter case).
  • Bayonetta creator Hideki Kamiya once complained about how frequently doujinshi of the games made the title character, a Hot Witch resembling a stereotypical domme in a Hack and Slash game that is frequently sexually suggestive, the more submissive partner in sex scenes. The fandom responded by making Bayonetta the dominant partner in later doujinshi.
  • Implied in A Good Compromise, which opens with professor and combat veteran Captain Tyria Sark engaging in some light bondage with her husband where she's the one tied down.
  • In the Star Wars Legends fanfic Encounter on Myrkr (NSFW), Mara accuses Luke of being one and claims she knows the type (in the end, it is revealed to be a little role playing, so the veracity of her statement is unknown):
    "I saw men like you - powerful, rich, men with connections, men who held the power of life and death over others in their very hands. They would come to the most lowly and vile drinking establishments to slum with the locals. They came for one reason, one particular kind of woman... These powerful men who had others trembling at their feet wanted a woman to dominate them. They wanted to feel helpless at the hands of another. They got a sick sexual arousal out of being abused and degraded. That is the kind of type I think you are."

     Film — Live Action 
  • Mr. & Mrs. Smith (2005): Jane disguises herself as a dominatrix to get close to a mob boss. He likes it when she ties him up and whips him, not so much when she breaks his neck and escapes out the window.

    Literature 
  • Prevalent in The Wheel of Time, its author Robert Jordan having a flair for the kinky. Specifically, it's actually invoked by the Sea Folk, whose marriage vows include a requirement that one member of the couple is always in command while in public, and always submissive in private, something that Lan and Nynaeve don't realize when they ask the people to perform their wedding ceremony.
  • In Cryptonomicon, an extremely wealthy character known only as "The Dentist" opposes the protagonists because he is a submissive under the control of his Filipino dominatrix wife, who in turn takes orders from conspirators opposing the protagonists' attempt to recover gold stolen by Those Wacky Nazis and create an Internet data haven.
  • In Polystom, one scene reveals that Cleonicles, the governor of the Moon, has a fetish for being ordered around and sodomized by his servants.
  • Played for Laughs in The New Jedi Order: Destiny's Way. Luke complains to his wife Mara Jade (both of them senior Jedi Masters) that Fyor Rodan, a New Republic politician, addressed him simply as "Skywalker" during a discussion about the Jedi Order's role in the Yuuzhan Vong War.
    Luke: He kept calling me "Skywalker". Because I don't have a title—I'm not a senator, I'm not a general any longer, I'm not an ambassador. He used the word like an insult.
    Mara: He could have called you "Master". Like I do sometimes.
    Luke: I don't think it would be the same as when you do it.
    Mara: It better not be... Skywalker.

     Live-Action TV 
  • Nip/Tuck: A powerful CEO who comes into the McNamara/Troy practice for surgery turns out to be the sub to a ridiculously aggressive dominatrix. Sean walks in on the guy being tortured with fish hooks, and immediately threatens to call the cops. The man claims it's a way to punish himself for having to fire people constantly.
  • Castle: Zig-Zagged in "The Mistress Always Spanks Twice". The BDSM club where the Body of the Week worked is patronized by various powerful men, but on the other hand the domme who runs it is herself a retired attorney. And then there's the various Casual Kink moments this episode where Beckett, the homicide detective, acts domineering over Castle, the crime novelist, as well as a male suspect who was a sub client of the aforementioned BDSM club.
  • In Twin Peaks, the manager of Horne's Department Store, who secretly recruits underage girls into prostitution/drug rings, turns out to enjoy being bound and gagged.
  • In the episode "Change" in Silent Witness, the Body of the Week is a wealthy CEO whose secretary tries to cover up that he liked being tied up, gagged and whipped in the bedroom to avoid tarnishing his reputation.

    Video Games 
  • Dragon Age: Inquisition: If Iron Bull is romanced, he decides the Inquisitor has so much on their plate, they'd appreciate someone else taking charge in the bedroom.

Indexes: Authority Tropes, Characterization Tropes, Sex Tropes, No Real Life Examples, Please!

Community Feedback Replies: 21
  • September 19, 2017
    MetaFour
    Definitely think this is a trope, though I can't think of any examples at the moment.
  • September 19, 2017
    Generality
    Prevalent in The Wheel Of Time, its author Robert Jordan having a flair for the kinky. Specifically, it's actually invoked by the Sea Folk, whose marriage vows include a requirement that one member of the couple is always in command while in public, and always submissive in private, something that Lan and Nynaeve don't realize when they ask the people to perform their wedding ceremony.
  • September 20, 2017
    MetaFour
    Edit: Wait, that's not really an example. Nevermind.
  • September 20, 2017
    Basara-kun
    Comic Books:
  • September 20, 2017
    NubianSatyress
    See also Best Her To Bed Her and All Amazons Want Hercules, where the person is only willing to love someone that's stronger than they are.
  • September 21, 2017
    Morgenthaler
    • Nip Tuck: A powerful CEO who comes into the McNamara/Troy practice for surgery turns out to be the sub to a ridiculously aggressive dominatrix. Sean walks in on the guy being tortured with fish hooks, and immediately threatens to call the cops. The man claims it's a way to punish himself for having to fire people constantly.
  • September 21, 2017
    PistolsAtDawn
    • Mr And Mrs Smith 2005: Jane disguises herself as a dominatrix to get close to a mob boss- he likes it when she ties him up and whips him, not so much when she then shoots him and escapes out the window.

    i swear ive read a bunch of fanfics with this premise
  • September 29, 2017
    Pichu-kun
    I'm half sure that Wonder Woman is either a sub or vers according to the early comic's thinly veiled bondage themes, but I haven't read enough of them to be certain.
  • September 30, 2017
    Badger96
    Dunno if this counts, but Iron Bull presumes this if you romance him in Dragon Age Inquisition- he decides the Inquisitor has so much on their plate, they'd appreciate someone else taking charge in the bedroom.
  • October 1, 2017
    Synchronicity
    I think you mean "does a 180" instead of 360 in the description.
  • October 1, 2017
    LegitimateIdiot
    Fixed the grammar in the Comic Book example
  • October 18, 2017
    TheWanderer
    • At one point in The Losers, Aisha follows her target (the immensely feared warden of a Hellhole Prison) to the brothel where he goes to be dominated. She waits until the dominatrix has his tied up before entering, chases the woman out, and takes a moment to note the irony of a man who is so feared and has literally decided if others live or die on a whim being in such a predicament. Then she goes to work on him Jack Bauer style.
  • October 18, 2017
    Stevebob
    In the episode "Change" in Silent Witness, the Body Of The Week is a wealthy CEO whose secretary tries to cover up that he liked being tied up, gagged and whipped in the bedroom to avoid tarnishing his reputation.
  • February 22, 2018
    Synchronicity
    • Jane The Virgin: Petra, high-powered and domineering co-owner and de facto manager of the Marbella Hotel, admits to Jane in "Chapter Seventy-Four" that she likes being dominated in bed, as it's a way for her to relax after being in charge and making decisions all the time.
  • February 22, 2018
    Omeganian
    In the Star Wars Expanded Universe fanfic Encounter on Myrkr (NSFW), Mara accuses Luke of being one and claims she knows the type (in the end, it is revealed to be a little role playing, so the veracity of her statement is unknown):
    I saw men like you - powerful, rich, men with connections, men who held the power of life and death over others in their very hands. They would come to the most lowly and vile drinking establishments to slum with the locals. They came for one reason, one particular kind of woman... These powerful men who had others trembling at their feet wanted a woman to dominate them. They wanted to feel helpless at the hands of another. They got a sick sexual arousal out of being abused and degraded. That is the kind of type I think you are.
  • February 22, 2018
    BOFH
    Literature
    • In Cryptonomicon, an extremely wealthy character known only as "The Dentist" opposes the protagonists because he is a submissive under the control of his Filipino dominatrix wife, who in turn takes orders from conspirators opposing the protagonists' attempt to recover gold stolen by Those Wacky Nazis and create an Internet data haven.
    • In Polystom, one scene reveals that Cleonicles - the governor of the Moon - has a fetish for being ordered around and sodomized by his servants.
  • February 27, 2018
    StarSword
    Fan Works:
    • Implied in A Good Compromise, which opens with professor and combat veteran starship captain Tyria Sark engaging in some light bondage with her husband where she's the one tied down.
    • Bayonetta creator Hideki Kamiya actually complained about how frequently doujinshi of the games made the title character, a witch in a Hack And Slash game who frequently gets into Orgasmic Combat, the more submissive partner in sex scenes. The fandom responded by making Bayonetta the dominant partner in later doujinshi.

    TV:
    • The Castle episode "The Mistress Always Spanks Twice" plays with this. The BDSM club where the Body Of The Week worked is implied to be patronized by various powerful men, but on the other hand the domme who runs it is herself a retired attorney. And then there's the various Casual Kink moments this episode where Beckett, the homicide detective, acts domineering over Castle, the crime novelist.
  • February 27, 2018
    merely1man
    Title suggestion: Dom On The Streets, Sub In The Sheets
  • February 27, 2018
    naturalironist
    TV:
    • In 'Twin Peaks', the manager of Horne's Department Store, who secretly recruits underage girls into prostitution/drug rings, turns out to enjoy being bound and gagged.
  • February 27, 2018
    StarSword
    Compare Brains And Bondage, which has BDSM being preferred by smart people (who are also often powerful).
  • February 27, 2018
    StarSword
    Huh, I just realized nobody's home: this draft has actually been dead since October.

    Ok, taking it over.
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