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Sin Is In
Waxing lyrical about unhealthy or antisocial activities
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In contrast with Do Not Do This Cool Thing, this is when something that could be seen as reprehensible is lauded and praised to high heaven (this need not be a song, though it often takes that form; Lyrical Dissonance may come into play depending on your sensibilities), with no expense spared in lyrical ability and epical tone for the sake of conveying the perceived wonderfulness, significance and importance of these vices. Compare with Sex, Drugs and Rock & Roll, Good Is Boring, Good Is Dumb, Good Is Old-Fashioned, Evil Is Cool.

Works with criminals or gangsters as protagonists can be this way, particularly when there is no payment of karma shown for the violence, cons, or stealing that they do. Or, the karmic payment is in terms of the "honor code" or culture within the criminal world (e.g. punishing bad deeds, insults, or betrayal against fellow gangsters), but not for the general bad deeds they inflict upon society at large.

Intimately related to Evil Is Cool, Evil Feels Good, Evil Is Sexy and Evil Is Stylish.


  • Vampire in Brooklyn has Eddie Murphy's vampire character Maximilian killing and replacing a minister (also played by Murphy) and then preaching about the balance of good and evil. Or being more specific, that there cannot be Good without Evil, and as such is all right to commit sins for the sake of balance-the more heinous, the better.

Drugs Will Blow Your Mind

From song lyrics entirely dedicated to praising ketamine, crystal meth, or cocaine, to classic poems about the awesomeness of wine and liquor.

There's many, many examples of "Drugs Will Blow Your Mind" in music, particularly when it was more "innocent" experimentation in the 60s, before the fallout became more apparent and ugly in the 70s (for hard drugs). Marijuana might still be celebrated in song today, but rarely the harder stuff. Steppenwolf's "the Pusher" actually drew the distinction quite early:
You know the dealer, the dealer is a man
With the love grass in his hand
Oh but the pusher is a monster
Good God, he's not a natural man
The dealer for a nickel
Lord, will sell you lots of sweet dreams
Ah, but the pusher will ruin your body
Lord, he'll leave your, he'll leave your mind to scream.
  • "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" by The Beatles: Many believe the title to be an anthropomorphism of LSD, as the initials of the key words coincide. And the song describes relaxing, turning on, and taking in some incredible sights.
  • Sammy Hagar's "(There's Only) One Way to Rock":
So many things can get you high
I'm gonna try 'em all just once before I die
He'll fly his astral plane
Takes you trips around the bay
Brings you back the same day
Timothy Leary
  • "Heroin" by The Velvet Underground is more bittersweet: the user who sings its praises knows that, for better or worse, he's hopelessly wed to it ("it's my wife/and it's my life"), and he knows he's one of those people whom others point to as one who won't ever amount to much, but doesn't care ("And thank your God that I'm not aware/and thank God that I just don't care"); but it mostly describes the rapture of a high, with the quickening instrumentation itself suggesting something rushing through the blood.
  • "We like Rohypnol! Just forget it all!
  • La Celestina has the titular villainess go in great detail about how awesome wine is, listing all kinds of virtues, real and imagined, concluding with "the only bad thing is that good wine is expensive, and bad wine hurts you".
  • The drink Tequila was popularized in Western countries by a novelist who wrote entire novels about his protagonist boozing it up around the world.
  • Calimotxo became very popular in Spain after a New York Times article praised the obscure, cheap drink (coca cola with cheap red wine) as a delicatessen.
  • Tex Williams' "Smoke Smoke Smoke That Cigarette," a simultaneous paean to and denunciation of smoking. Followed by "Smoke Smoke Smoke '68," an updated version.
Now it ain't that I don't smoke myself / I don't reckon they hinder your health / I smoked 'em all my life and I ain't dead yet
  • Mercilessly spoofed in Clone High's musical episode, where the kids got high on raisins and re-enacted the entire hippie movement in the course of one day.

Gambling Is Fun:

Describing scenes of gambling in loving detail, showing how it takes lots of skills to succeed at them, or treating luck as an inherent virtue of the player.

Violence Is Cathartic And Spectacular:

An Omnipresent Trope, dating back to when kicking ass and taking names was a very effective way of increasing the wealth and security of your culture and your clan; hence, War Is Glorious, Might Makes Right, etc. Has been falling out of favour as technological innovations in war have made it more and more impersonal, and violence has become a less and less efficient way of resolving problems in modern society. Nineties Action Hero and Nineties Anti-Hero tend to embody this attitude.

Unethical Sex Is Sexy:

overcoming a lot of women's resistance to have sex with you or overcoming a lot of men's wills by baiting them with your self makes you a charismatic and empowered person.

Con Games Are Best Games:

Keep taking advantage of the system and rob everyone around you blind with a suit and a smile.

Stealing Is Swell:

From the Gentleman Thief to the Cat Burglar, thieves are clever Blythe Spirits who are to be admired for their skills.

It's a Criminal's Life For Me:

A criminal lifestyle in general is something to be strived for, well worth the inconveniences, and more fulfilling than the alternatives.

  • Disney's Peter Pan has the song "A Pirate's Life", which is about how fun it is to be a pirate. It's sung by Captain Hook and his pirate crew to the Lost Boys to try to convince them to become pirates.
  • One Piece and any other shows with The Pirates That Dont Do Anything, where you get all the freedom and badassery of an outlaw lifestyle without the drawback of having to cut throats just to get by.

Perversion Will Prevail: what inspired me to write this trope in the first place. Anything that makes out the sexual objectification and sexual aggression of others to be exciting and excellent, from being a Peeping Tom to a Barbarian Hero "ravishing" women.
  • It is very typical of Japanese works of fiction to have males go in-universe on great, epically-worded tirades about their sexual perversion of the day. Usually the narrative treats it as but endearing rather than out-and-out supporting it.

James Bond stories tend to feature many of these at the same time. Directed at incredibly obvious villains... and women.
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