Created By: Unknown Troper on November 30, 2009
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The counterpart to Stupid Jetpack Hitler, namely the tendency to give those Dirty Reds technologies far beyond their western counterparts. After the end of the Cold War this is something of a Discredited Trope and usually only played for laughs. Although "abonodned Soviet experiments" seems to be a fairly common trope.

Examples:
  • Red Alert. 'nuff said. Mind controlled squids, cloning vats, Weaponized Tesla Coils...
  • The Marvel Universe has it's share of soviet experiments gone awry, the most Ultimate Universe series Ultimate Nightmare took place almost entirely in a complex dedicated to this.
  • Some James Bond movies.
  • Freedom Force features Nuclear Winter who is a soviet spy dunked in his own chemicals, Freedom Force Vs The Third Reich features Red October, who for some unexplained reason is a witch.
  • Dr. Strangelove features the Soviet Doomsday Device... That they neglected to tell anyone about.
    • The Soviets developed the device due to the fact that the U.S. had already considered a similar device already: "Our source was the New York Times."
  • The story where the Marvel Universe monster Fin Fang Foom originated is all about the chinese communists attacking Taiwan with a dragon.

Community Feedback Replies: 36
  • November 28, 2009
    Kinkajou
    The video for Metallica's All Nightmare Long gives Soviet scientists Applied Phlebotinum that is used as regenerative medicine... and to cause a Zombie Apocalypse on the North American continent.
  • November 28, 2009
    Kellor
    In Destroy All Humans, the Soviets have a secret moon base and an alliance with aliens.

    One of the levels in Tomb Raider: Legend was Telsa's secret laboratory in Kazakhstan.

    The first episode of The Tick live action show had Soviet-built robot programmed to destroy Jimmy Carter.
  • November 28, 2009
    BlackDragon
    Here's a cheery bit of information for ya... the Soviet Doomsday Device? The one featured in Dr Strangelove? Truth In Television. I kid you not. And it's STILL THERE, since nobody's gotten around to disarming it even though the Cold War is over.

    And yes, they actually didn't tell anyone about it. The west only learned about it through defectors and spies. Apparently, rather than scare the rest of the world away from bombing them, it was designed to remove the Sovjet finger form the big, red button - the politicians wouldn't be tempted to launch a First Strike based on some loose suspicion that the US might have launched, since they could console themselves with the fact that, if they DID get nuked, the retaliatory strike would happen regardless.

    (Obviously, though, the 'Doomsday Device' didn't work in quite the same way as the one in the movie - but it's scary all the same.)
  • November 28, 2009
    Kuiper Beltran
    Full Metal Panic is set in an alternate reality where the Cold War never ended and both the United States and the Soviet Union have developed Arm Slave technology. However, the US must have gotten the short end of the stick, as their mecha are almost never shown; it's usually up to the mercenary group Mithril to save the day and set things straight.
  • November 28, 2009
    CrypticMirror
    In The Return we have a group of nuclear powered female cyborg Soviet mercenary assassins.
  • November 28, 2009
    onFyre
    How about Team Fortress 2? Soviet Sandviches are powerful analgesics.
  • November 28, 2009
    Aminatep
    How 'bout Mnogo Phlebotinum?
  • November 28, 2009
    Arilou
    I was thinking of something like "The Commie Secret Arsenal" or something just so we can throw the (relatively rare, admittedly) chinese and north-korean crazyness in too.
  • November 28, 2009
    Silent Hunter
  • November 28, 2009
    wmdkitty
    • Metal Gear Solid 3 explains this way how can some relatively futuristic elements of the series, like the sneaking suit, can somehow exist in the mid-60's.
  • November 28, 2009
    wmdkitty
    RE: "All Nightmare Long"

    Zombie cat.

    On a side note, is there a trope for reanimated animals? They had 'em in the Resident Evil series, too. (the dogs. oh god the dogs!)
  • November 28, 2009
    wmdkitty
    Fixed it for me: Resident Evil
  • November 28, 2009
    RocketDude
    Nitpick: You should pothole Red Alert to Command And Conquer, since you ended up giving the link to the trope Red Alert.
  • November 29, 2009
    Arilou
    I think I'm not certain but I think Command And Conquer Red Alert would be the proper pothole?
  • November 29, 2009
    Arivne
    @wmdkitty: "On a side note, is there a trope for reanimated animals?"

    Yes, we have it as part of Raising The Steaks (which also includes zombified meat products).
  • November 30, 2009
    Arilou
    Which, btw. is an awesomely puntastic name.

  • November 30, 2009
    Unknown Troper
    • Crimson Dynamo from Marvel comics is a Soviet scientist who invents an armored suit which also allows to control electricity.
  • December 2, 2009
    CrypticMirror
  • December 3, 2009
    Chabal 2
    Real Life: There was an Soviet attempt to create man-chimpanzee hybrids for use as workers. Didn't work, but explains the weird science aspect they get in fiction.
  • December 3, 2009
    Cao Cao
    • Blake And Mortimer: In "SOS Meteors", it's revealed that the Soviet Bloc has developed weather control technology, which it uses to destabilize the climate of Western Europe in order to prepare for a military invasion. Why the Soviets didn't instead use it to improve their own weather is anyone's guess.
  • December 3, 2009
    vijeno
    Real Life, kinda: This Troper remembers the rumors about soviet low-frequency Sonic Weapon devices at their borders, threatening to instill depression and anxiety in the whole population. Some even argued that this was already taking place...
  • December 3, 2009
    STUART
    Here's a page image:
  • December 3, 2009
    Sabre_Justice
    How about Damn Raygun Stalin?
  • December 3, 2009
    Unknown Troper
    Recently, played straight in the Fringe episode "Earthling"
  • December 4, 2009
    Arivne
    Real Life

    Tabletop RPG
    • Dragon magazine #204 had an article on Soviet psychotronic weapons.
  • December 4, 2009
    TBeholder
    Red Mad R&D?

    2 Chabal2: (sigh) It's from paediawiki? =)

  • December 6, 2009
    bigboy
    any one like Sufficiently Advanced Socialists?

    Realife
    • titanium was of soviet origin and was Unobtanium over the iron curtain.
  • December 7, 2009
    Unknown Troper
    Seconding Damn Raygun Stalin.
  • December 7, 2009
    Deboss
    Uh, wasn't titanium used to make the F-14? The one with the folding wings? I seem to recall the wing mounts being made of nothing else but titanium.
  • December 8, 2009
    BlackDragon
    Titanium wasn't unknown or unavailable in the US during the cold war, but the Soviets had access to vastly greater ammounts, thanks to controlling some nice deposits. Resultingly, they were able to build a class of Submarine made ENTIRELY from Titanium, thus making it a good deal tougher than a traditional steel-contrustion, and more importantly, invisible to magnetic detection - among other things.

    Anyway, my vote goes to Sufficiently Advanced Socialists.
  • December 9, 2009
    Unknown Troper
    It's possible that the Soviets saved their wackiest stuff for agriculture. attempts to boost crop yield by irradiating the seeds before planting (failed, but left lots of unsecured radioactive material around the former blocs), and hey, just search for Trofim Lysenko, and compare that with Nikolai Vavilov. Which would you agree with?
  • December 10, 2009
    Arilou
    Sufficiently Advbanced Socialists seems like a good one.

    You can launch this if you want to, if you don't I'll do it later on.
  • December 10, 2009
    JethroQWalrustitty
    If we're being literalists, "Sufficiently Advanced Socialists" sounds like a society that is close to communism.

    Secret Soviet Superscience or something like that would be better IMO.
  • December 10, 2009
    CrypticMirror
    Yeah I like Secret Soviet Super Science (although I still have a soft spot for Damn Raygun Stalin which is far more troperish but it seems we are lurching towards respectability these days).
  • December 10, 2009
    Omar Karindu
    The Fin Fang Foom example needs to be removed, as the story is actually about a Taiwanese scholar reviving the dragon to attack the Communists, not the other way 'round.
  • December 10, 2009
    MajorTom

Three days must pass before this YKTTW is Launchworthy or Discardable

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