Created By: Syera on May 5, 2011 Last Edited By: Syera on May 20, 2011

What Measure Is A Transgendered Person

Transgender people have a hard time being viewed as their target sex, and sometimes even human.

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Transgender individuals often have to fight an uphill battle to be viewed as the gender they want to be viewed as. However, everything from family to the government can be anything from a nuisance to an insurmountable obstacle.

This trope is about the uphill battle that transgendered people have to face - the obstructive government that won't let them legally change their sex, the people who insist on knowing what their real gender is or refuse to acknowledge them as the gender that isn't on the birth certificate, or those who beat the crap out of them because they think they're being deceitful or are some kind of demi-human abomination.

Remember, drag kings/queens are not the same as transgender people, so don't list them here.

Examples:
  • Paul Millander in CSI was born intersex and assigned female at birth. His mother couldn't accept that he was anything but her little girl when he was a child.
Community Feedback Replies: 14
  • May 5, 2011
    Bisected8
    In one episode of CSI New York the victim was a MTF transexual (pre-op) who'd confronted a senator who raped her sister. The murderer was actually the random guy she flirted with to get into the party the senator was in, who more or less went from being mildly surprised that "she was a he" and noting how convincing she was rather than being upset to a full on "I made the world a better place" pantomine villain after The Reveal. The senator also uses the "he's clearly sexually disturbed" argument when the CSIs are investigating him they manage to compel a DNA sample and prove he was indeed a rapist.
  • May 5, 2011
    jaytee
    You should mention that this is very much Truth In Television.
  • May 5, 2011
    jaytee
    Also, I would make the title gender-neutral, given the nature of the trope. This does not affect only trans men.
  • May 5, 2011
    Ryusui
    Subverted in Liar Game. Yuuji Fukunaga, an M-to-F transsexual (can't remember if pre-op or post-op), is introduced as a villain but quickly becomes a sympathetic ally to Nao and Akiyama.
  • May 5, 2011
    Stratadrake
    @jay: Then What Measure Is A Transgender could work fine.
  • May 5, 2011
    Rolf
    What's with thumb? This has very short examples list, no index yet, so on.
  • May 5, 2011
    jaytee
    ^^I would go with What Measure Is A Transgender Person... You wouldn't say What Measure Is A Gay or What Measure Is A Black. I don't mean to be the PC police about this, but it can't hurt to be sensitive.
  • May 5, 2011
    jaytee
    also, @rolf: either there is a glitch in the system, people are testing out the new feature, creators are thumbing preemptively, or there's someone trolling thumbs around, because there are a LOT of YKTT Ws that have thumbs that are in no way ready to launch.
  • May 5, 2011
    bluepenguin
    The sidekick character in the manga Leviathan is a trans woman; the two main characters (who are her friends!) take every opportunity to point out that she's "not really a woman". It's Played For Laughs, although one may not find it terribly funny.

    ... yeah, I'm sure there are much better examples than that, but that's the only one I could think of.
  • May 6, 2011
    originalhobbit
    • Degrassi: Adam's storyline is made up almost completely of this. His mother won't accept that he is transgender, and insists on calling him Grace. He is bullied at school for being different. A girl ostracizes him when she finds out he's "not a boy". And when he finally meets a girl he thinks will accept him, she offends him by saying that she sees him as both male and female.
  • May 6, 2011
    Ardiente
    Level E: We're introduced to a character who first appears to be a lesbian, but turns out to be a preop transman, refusing to date lesbians and instead trying to get straight girls to see him as male. HE FAILS CONSTANTLY AND PAINFULLY. Then he gets hit on by a hive queen from an alien race who... long story short, he gets a perfect operation, becomes a man, and marries the alien. Except it's not exactly him. I told you it was a long story. Suffice to say, The Prince was involved, and humanity's extinction because of the copulation of ONE MAN was narrowly averted. It's that kind of show.
  • May 20, 2011
    tyg13
    I don't know if this counts, but I remember a girl from House who was diagnosed as having testicles instead of ovaries/uterus. [[Understatement She freaks out]].
  • May 20, 2011
    Hadashi
    My best friend is transgendered, I can confirm there is a strong measure of this trope even in England (Which is supposedly one of the most LGTB-friendly countries). From what I gather, trying to get a job as a male-to-female transgender is extremely disheartening. People still assume you are some kind of wacko pervert.
  • May 20, 2011
    Ardiente
    Even then, what does being a whacko pervert hae to do with doing a freaking jon?
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