Created By: TheAnswer on December 31, 2012 Last Edited By: TheAnswer on January 30, 2013
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Battle in the Snow

A battle takes place in the snow

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A Sister trope of Battle in the Rain, Two opponents, either individuals or armies, face off against each other, ready to throw down at a moment's notice, with clouds lowering overhead. Just as the fight is about to start, it begins to snow on the combatants. Interestingly, the snow never seems to inhibit anyone in the battle In Real Life, fights in the snow rarely happen. On the one hand, it reduces visibility and makes for a better defensive fight. Along with that, the ground generally gets iced over, making it harder for mechanized units and sometimes infantry to move. But however snow doesn't affect projectiles much at all except for low visibility. A subtrope of Empathic Environment and Snow Means Death. More often than not combined with Dramatic Wind and rarely Dramatic Thunder. Often, obviously, foreshadowed by A Storm Is Coming. Characters often Dies Wide Open, so the snow can fall on top of them and confirm He'sDead,Jim. (Though, this is more common in animation, because trying it in live-action would become Narm rather quickly due to the "dead" characters reflexively closing their eyes.)

Examples:

Anime & Manga

  • Anime/Bakugan: In a New Vestroia episode, they reappear back to Earth (snowy Russia to be exact) and Lync challenges Barron to a battle.
  • Sword of the Stranger has the final Sword Fight take place in the snow.
  • In Fullmetal Alchemist, when Ed fights Bucaneer in the snow while traveling north.
Film:

  • The Battle of Hoth in The Empire Strikes Back takes place on the glaciers of an ice planet.
  • The classic Russian film Alexander Nevsky features a climactic battle on a frozen lake. It was based on a real life battle too.
  • The final fight in House of Flying Daggers (although this was apparently due to an unseasonal snowstorm while filming).
  • In Film/Inception, the third layer of the dream was set in a snow-locked mountain stronghold, with the team taking the role of an infiltration unit and the dream projections being ski patrol combat units.
  • The Twilight Saga Breaking Dawn Part 2. In the climax Bella, Edward and their friends battle the Volturi on a large snow covered field.
  • Film/X-Men has the first fight between Cyclops and Storm against Sabertooth in Canada, and it's snowing.
  • The somewhat magic battle between Gandalf and Saruman on the Pass of Charadras in Film/ The Fellowhip Of The Ring could be considered this in the Lord of the Rings.
  • The original Red Dawn has some guerrilla battle scenes in the snow.
  • Of Course who could forget the big battle in Film/Mulan.

Literature:
  • The Ciaphas Cain novel Caves Of Ice has Cain's regiment, the 597th Valhallan, deployed to protect an Imperial promethium refinery from Orks on an ice planet. The Valhallans are right at home, having grown up on a similar world.

Video Games

  • Xenoblade has the Valaak Mountains where it is almost always snowing, and yes there is a big battle that happens there, against Metal Face it alsp involves The Reveal the Metal Face is actually Mumkhar!
  • The first expansion pack to Dawn of War isn't called Winter Assault for nothing: the entire single-player campaign takes place on an ice world.
  • Anime/Pokemon, pretty much happens whenever you use the move Hail. And just like Kyogre there are Pokemon that cannot help but summon a hailstorm and of course there are routes that are almost always snowing.
Western Animation

  • Avatar: The Last Airbender has the arc in the Northern Water Tribe (this being the North Pole there is snow everywhere) so there are many battles in the snow.

Real Life:
  • Pretty much the entire Winter War between the USSR and Finland.
Community Feedback Replies: 36
  • December 31, 2012
    StarSword
    Um, this is more of a Sister Trope to Battle In The Rain than a subtrope.

    Film:

    Video Games:
    • The first expansion pack to Dawn Of War isn't called Winter Assault for nothing: the entire single-player campaign takes place on an ice world.
  • December 31, 2012
    TheAnswer
    Oh! Ok, I've been on the site for about a year but have only been the most active this year.
  • December 31, 2012
    foxley
    The final fight in House Of Flying Daggers (although this was apparently due to an unseasonal snowstorm while filming).
  • January 1, 2013
    StarSword
    Literature:
  • January 1, 2013
    Waterlily
    The classic Russian film Alexander Nevsky features a climactic battle on a frozen lake. It was based on a real life battle too.
  • January 1, 2013
    TheAnswer
    Pokemon, pretty much happens whenever you use the move Hail. And just like Kyogre there are Pokemon that cannot help but summon a hailstorm and of course there are routes that are almost always snowing.
  • January 1, 2013
    DanielCase
    Film:
    • The original Red Dawn has some guerrilla battle scenes in the snow.

    Real Life:
    • Pretty much the entire Winter War between the USSR and Finland.
  • January 1, 2013
    Tallens
    So, there has to be snow on the ground, but it may or may not be actually snowing?

    • In Inception, the third layer of the dream was set in a snow-locked mountain stronghold, with the team taking the role of an infiltration unit and the dream projections being ski patrol combat units.
  • January 1, 2013
    TheAnswer
    That's what I say, it makes it more dramatic if it's snowing.
  • January 1, 2013
    Dawnwing
    Could be a sub-trope or sister trope of Snow Means Death.
  • January 2, 2013
    Arivne
    Film
  • January 2, 2013
    TheAnswer
    Anime:
  • January 4, 2013
    TheAnswer
    • Film/X-Men has the first fight between Cyclops and Storm against Sabertooth in Canada, and it's snowing.
    • The somewhat magic battle between Gandalf and Saruman on the Pass of Charadras could be considered this in the Lord of the Rings.
  • January 8, 2013
    TheAnswer
    • Of Course who could forget the big battle in Mulan.
  • January 8, 2013
    Tallens
    @Dawnwing

    I'd say subtrope.
  • January 9, 2013
    rodneyAnonymous
    "[J]ust like said previous trope except the fight takes place in the snow" is an extremely weak description. What does it mean? Unless this is just a list of battles that happen to involve snow somehow. That must be improved. Note that the Battle In The Rain description is a dozen or so sentences long.

    Or, instead of creating a new page, that article could be expanded a bit: add a paragraph about the snow variation.
  • January 9, 2013
    TheAnswer
    I'm almost always short on time okay?
  • January 9, 2013
    TheAnswer
    (removed due to rudeness)
  • January 11, 2013
    TheAnswer
    I fully intend to follow through on it! I'm working on the description right now!
  • January 11, 2013
    MokonaZero
    An anime example in Full Metal Alchemist, when Ed fights Bucaneer in the snow while traveling north.
  • January 11, 2013
    Chabal2
    • Berserk: Two major fights between Guts and Griffith take place in the snow: the first when Guts wants to leave the Hawks, the second when Guts is trying to kill Griffith for his betrayal (but only ends up fighting Zodd). There's also a minor battle where Guts fights snowlems.
    • Advance Wars: Olaf invokes this trope, as his power makes it snow, slowing all units except his.
  • January 17, 2013
    TheAnswer
    ^^^^ The Answer, did you edit Fighteer's comment? That isn't cool.

    This seems exactly like (or anyway extremely similar to) Battle In The Rain. I still think that should be expanded, instead of creating a new article.
  • January 17, 2013
    Folamh3
    • The second boss fight against Sniper Wolf in Metal Gear Solid is a tense sniper battle in a field while it's snowing.
  • January 17, 2013
    TheAnswer

  • January 17, 2013
    TheAnswer

  • January 17, 2013
    Waterlily
    I think two other reasons this trope is used is that it makes the battle a very hard fought one (and especially satisfying if they win) and simply Rule Of Cool.
  • January 17, 2013
    TheAnswer
    How does it make a fight harder? Rain gets you drenched but snow?
  • January 17, 2013
    rodneyAnonymous
  • January 17, 2013
    Waterlily
    It`s cold, fighting on ice is slippery, your weapons may freeze, you probably have to wear a lot of clothing that can make it harder to move around, food may be hard to get before and after the battle, it can be hard to run around in piles of snow, etc...

    I`m just curious where you live. Do you have a lot of experience with snow√Č
  • January 17, 2013
    TheAnswer
    I used to live in Colorado, 4 years ago.
  • January 18, 2013
    Paradisesnake
    Film:
  • January 18, 2013
    Arivne
    The Answer: You have made several insulting/threatening comments above and admitted to deliberately editing another poster's comment to suppress it.

    You should know that your actions are violations of TV Tropes policies and you are at risk of being suspended by the moderators who run this site. By the way, Fighteer (whose post you edited) is a moderator (see Know The Staff).

    You should apologize and ask for forgiveness. Seriously. Before it's too late.
  • January 18, 2013
    TheAnswer
    I was planning to before you put that comment up, I try not to be a jerk. So here it is. I would like to publicly apologize about my behavior earlier. I try to be patient but when people come around telling my what to do, it gets hard. But my behavior is inexcusable, and it's not who I am. I just think this will make a nice trope but have no idea how to make the description better. Instead of just telling me what to do, I would appreciate it if you people would give me some suggestions as what to say. In short I am sorry. I will now go sit in the corner for about 30 years and just keep quiet.
  • January 18, 2013
    TheAnswer
    Aw, who am I kidding? No one will give this thing a hat. It's junk. Move to discard.
  • January 24, 2013
    TheAnswer
    Oh I get it, a pity hat. Hardy har har.
  • January 30, 2013
    TheAnswer
    Well, since there is no more activity here, I think I'll start discarding soon.

Three days must pass before this YKTTW is Launchworthy or Discardable

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