Created By: silversymbiote on August 9, 2011 Last Edited By: silversymbiote on August 21, 2011

Multimedia Chapter Series

A series that contains an expanded universe, and everything is canon and in a clear timeline

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Trope

Examples

  • Tron series(movies, evolution video game, comics)
  • Rugrats(tv series, movies, all grown up)
  • Matrix(films, tv series, video game)
  • Pokemon Anime(tv series and films)
Community Feedback Replies: 35
  • August 9, 2011
    DorianMode
    Marvel's Ultimate Universe was designed to be this.
  • August 9, 2011
    silversymbiote
    How does ultimate marvel count? its canon revolves exclusively around comic books
  • August 9, 2011
    fluffything
    Not to nitpick or anything, but, apart from Mewtwo Strikes Back (the first movie), the Pokemon movies are not canon to the Anime series.
  • August 9, 2011
    silversymbiote
    ive heard the shows reference the movies numerous times ???
  • August 10, 2011
    Koveras
    Lyrical Nanoha (anime series, mangas, video games) currently contains four Alternate Timelines, but the primary one is quite comprehensive.
  • August 10, 2011
    fluffything
    @ silversymbiote- That's only in the English Dub. In the original Japanese version, the movies are in their own continuity.
  • August 12, 2011
    MorganWick
    At least as originally conceived, Continuity Snarl is about more than timelines.
  • August 12, 2011
    jaytee
    How is this a trope? Even if it was a trope, it's really subjective (as evidenced by multiple uses of the word "fairly..." Who decides what is "fairly clean"?)
  • August 12, 2011
    OmarKarindu
    In fact, Marvel's Ultimate Universe did hit a few snarls: even within the comics, the Ultimate Marvel Team-Up series had a version of the Fantastic Four that was declared non-continuity. Cross-media one of the Ultimate Spider-Man video games was meant to be canon for the comics, but never quite fit in properly.
  • August 12, 2011
    KingZeal
    Yeah, Ultimate Marvel officially disqualified itself with Ultimatum, where the Asian Wasp is suddenly a redhead and Pyro is a villain for no reason.
  • August 12, 2011
    Cidolfas
    This is not a trope and not needed as a page of any kind.
  • August 13, 2011
    silversymbiote
    @Cidolfas, are you a moderator or something, what gives you the right to say that?
  • August 13, 2011
    Sackett
    I agree, this is not a trope. It's when a trope does not occur. Instead we ought to have the trope be about when this does occur. Which we do: Continuity Snarl.
  • August 14, 2011
    silversymbiote
    um it wouldnt be the first time we had two tropes that are opposing
  • August 15, 2011
    battosaijoe
    I like the idea of this one, but in the end I have to agree, this is about something NOT occurring rather than something occurring. As such, I'm gonna have to agree with Sackett and Cidolfas. Silver, none of us are mods, but YKTTW entries live and die by the consent and agreement of the tropers. If a consensus isn't built to the effect that a YKTTW is good, then it doesn't get launched, and if it gets launched anyway, then the launcher gets temporarily banned.
  • August 15, 2011
    silversymbiote
    in all due respect, a lot more tropers are going to have to say its bad before im convinced its not worthy, 3 or 4 doesn't cut it for me
  • August 15, 2011
    battosaijoe
    Well, I understand your pride in this that you have created, but with all due respect, you're also going to need a lot of tropers who say its good before you can launch it. Two sides of the same coin and all, you know? ^.^ regardless, as it stands right now, it needs a lot more refinement in this one's eyes before its really tropable. Just my opinion of course. Like I said previously, I like the idea, but I just dont see how it would be tropable.
  • August 15, 2011
    silversymbiote
    perhaps i should rename it Snarl Free Timeline, cause now that i think about it, its more about placing things in chronological order then anything, while Continuity Snarl is not necessarily always about timelines
  • August 15, 2011
    battosaijoe
    This is probably gonna be my last comment for a while as to allow anyone else to contribute and so I can step back and wait for progress, but I still dont see how putting things in chronological order properly is a trope. But once more, its just my opinion. I would like to see this launched, but I really have nothing to contribute towards it because I dont see how its tropable.
  • August 15, 2011
    silversymbiote
    or you could look at it as The Verse but on a smaller scale, this does not require mutiple different shows to crossover to make this verse, just different forms of media(not crossing over that is, but just its a single series verse that has a timeline expanded into different forms of media, but staying small enough that it doesnt snarl AKA proper World Building)
  • August 16, 2011
    jaytee
    Agreed. Not A Trope.

    This is actually the absence of trope, not a trope in and of itself.
  • August 16, 2011
    silversymbiote
    Reading the page for "People Sit On Chairs" just motivates me to keep wanting this trope published, the page says People sitting on chairs is a common occurrence thus its not a trope. While the trope I'm presenting isn't common at all. the average multimedia franchise isn't like this, but enough are that i believe its tropeable
  • August 16, 2011
    silversymbiote
    And BTW Not Distracted By The Sexy is another occurrence of a trope "not happening" as opposed to Distracted By The Sexy. Why does that count?
  • August 17, 2011
    jaytee
    ^^You've misunderstood People Sit On Chairs. It has nothing to do with how common an occurrence is.

    Also, given the nature of wikis, using another article's existence to prove your point is rarely helpful. Snarl Free Series : Continuity Snarl :: Not Distracted By The Sexy : Distracted By The Sexy is not the perfect analogy you want it to be.

    Lastly, this is way more YMMV than anyone wants to admit. The only way the examples listed in the description count as "snarl-free" is by selectively including and excluding certain media. Pokemon is hardly snarl-free when you include all the media (anime, movies, video games, gaiden games, manga, toy lines). TRON has two completely incompatible sequels (TRON 2.0 and TRON: Legacy); how the hell is that "snarl-free"?
  • August 17, 2011
    silversymbiote
    @jaytee You overlooked the part where i said whats canon and whats not is clear, we all know that Tron 2.0 is not consider canon, and we all know that the popkemon anime doesnt connect to the continuity of the games at all(besides, i specified it as pokemon "Anime" anyway)
  • August 17, 2011
    jaytee
    Even if the TRON and Pokemon canons fit your somewhat arbitrary definition for this trope, you haven't addressed any of my other concerns, primary among them that this isn't really a trope to begin with.

    This is just the Averted Trope of Continuity Snarl.
  • August 17, 2011
    silversymbiote
    Averted Trope of Continuity Snarl?!? see this is why i changed the tropes name, i can see everyone has this trope all wrong, they figured it was related to continuity snarl just because its called "Snarl Free". when in reality there is far more to it then that.

    lets take a show like Spongebob, we can easily accept that everything that happens on this show and its movie is canon, but the order in which the episodes happen are extremely unclear

    Chronological orders being clean is a HUGE part of this trope. Calling this trope a Averted Trope of Continuity Snarl is about 25% Accurate of a statement if that
  • August 17, 2011
    jaytee
    ^Well, it doesn't help that the new title is completely nonsensical...

    And now we're back to any series where the continuity isn't clear enough for you counts as this trope.
  • August 17, 2011
    Allronix
    Tron itself is not as snarl-free as it appears. It does have an Alternate Continuity that isn't as well-known (Tron 2.0, its sequel Killer App, and the Ghost in the Machine tie-in comics), These were launchded in 2003-2004, and were an obvious test run for the 2010 relaunch. Granted, The Mouse declared them Canon Discontinuity once Tron Legacy was green-lit, but you'll still see Jet Bradley, Mercury, Ma3a, etc. cropping up in fannish apocrypha.
  • August 17, 2011
    silversymbiote
    @Jaytee Well then you give me a better name, not being mean, i honestly think non of my ideas sound good either
  • August 18, 2011
    jaytee
    ^For what you're describing, I think Snarl Free Continuity was a good title. I understand that what you're talking about isn't limited to Continuity Snarl, but it still gets the idea across.

    But like I've been saying, the title is not really the issue here. I just don't think the concept in general is tropeable. I'll back off for awhile though and see if anyone else wants to weigh in.
  • August 18, 2011
    silversymbiote
    Perhaps this trope has more i need to add to make it tropeable. But on a side note, this trope would obviously fit in to a "Timeline Tropes Index" if there was one, but there's not one, does anyone know how one can be made, cause then maybe i can compare this to other timeline tropes and figure out how to voice exactly what i'm trying to go for with this trope
  • August 18, 2011
    jaytee
    ^We have both Continuity Tropes and Consistency (which is more broad, but still relevant).
  • August 18, 2011
    Monessi
    As somebody who sticks up for contested tropes much more often than not... this is Not A Trope. This is, at best, The Verse with a decent editor, that's all. And that's not enough to make it distinct from The Verse, IMO. At worst, this is just a YMMV of series you think have a comprehensible canon.
  • August 21, 2011
    silversymbiote
    Does anyone think that if anything, maybe this could be a Subtype of the Verse, you know like when they say a trope has Type A and Type B examples and such?
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