Created By: kjnoren on July 1, 2012 Last Edited By: kjnoren on April 25, 2013
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Bow Woman

Female warrior using a bow

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Sponsor's note: This YKTTW will not be launched. It currently serves as a starting point for a general reworking of The Archer.

This is split off from the Tomboys Know Archery YKTTW. Rolling Updates. Will need Bow Women redirect.

Trope description

Want an Action Girl in the story, but not too much of an action girl? Enter the Bow Woman.

The bow seems like a more graceful and elegant weapon than the sword or the spear, and it keeps the user safely away from the enemy and having to get her hands dirty -- and it opens the possibility of having The Hero rescue the bowwoman if the enemy manages to get close.

In fictional contexts where warfare is expected, this is one of the more common weapons for women to be trained at. In other environments, wanting to learn to use a bow is one way to show that a woman is a Spirited Young Lady or Tomboy, especially if the people around her disapproves.

While technically all women using bows will fit into this trope, the use of it has changed in modern times. The perceived need for action girls or The Chick in stories, while still keeping them secondary to the men, is part of what drives the current usage. Thus mythological characters like Artemis or the Amazons do not fit very well into the modern use of the trope.

Subtrope of The Archer and a part of Guys Smash, Girls Shoot. Often an Action Girl, but as noted this is often a way to put limits on "action" and emphasise "girl". One of the common variations of a Lady of War.

Examples:

Anime and Manga:
  • Madoka (and later Homura) from Madoka Magica
  • Kagome and Kikyo in Inuyasha
  • InuYasha's Kikyo is both a miko and a textbook Lady of War example of this trope. Her skill with the bow is remarked upon early in the series, and shown frequently throughout.

Film
  • In the 2004 film King Arthur, a very sexy Guinevere wields a bow.
  • In Brave, Merida is rarely seen without her bow, much to the dismay of her mother, who doesn't approve of ladies having weapons.

Literature
  • Birgitte Silverbow in The Wheel of Time. She subverts the usual form of trope, since she is a skilled fighter with most weapons and a capable leader.
  • In the Hunger Games series, Katniss is skilled with a bow, and is terrified of appearing weak.
  • In ChroniclesOfNarnia, Susan fights with a bow, while the boys use melee weapons.
  • In the Tortall Universe Thayet uses a bow (or crossbow). In Lioness Rampant, this is contrasted with her bodyguard, Burri, who also uses other weapons. Daine is also deadly with a bow. However, the contrast here is more a case of her being a commoner, and therefore not using a sword like Alanna.

Live Action Television
  • In the first episode of Game of Thrones, Arya shows Bran up at a archery. Though she later switches to swordplay, this serves as a very early indication of her rebellious spirit.

Mythology
  • The Amazons of Classical Mythology probably used bows, and were probably mounted archers. However, it's quite likely that they used other weapons as well. The myths about them cutting away their right breast is likely just myths, however.
  • Artemis is another inspiration, though her domains were nature, hunting, maidens, and childbirth. The real Lady of War in the Greek pantheon was Athena.

Video Games
  • In Diablo the Rogue used bows, while the Amazon primarily uses bows, crossbows and javelins. Their Diablo III counterpart, the Demon Hunter, primarily uses bows, crossbows and hand crossbows.
  • Shana in Legend of Dragoon is the most traditionally feminine member of the party (of the other female characters, Rose uses a sword and Miranda uses a hammer). After spending the beginning of the game as a Distressed Damsel she arms herself with a bow to show she does have some Action Girl credentials.
  • Briggid in Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War is trained in the use of a bow for war, and was raised by the leader of a band of pirates.
  • Rosa of Final Fantasy IV.
  • The Night Elf Archer from War Craft III.

Western Animation
Community Feedback Replies: 73
  • July 1, 2012
    Bisected8
    I mentioned this on the other YKTTW, but it probably fits better here;

  • July 1, 2012
    swallowfeather
    • In the 2004 film King Arthur, a very sexy Guinevere wields a bow.
  • July 1, 2012
    JonnyB
    Susan Pevensie in The Chronicles Of Narnia is pretty badass with a bow.
  • July 1, 2012
    Mechayoshi
    Doesn't this fall under Guys Smash, Girls Shoot?
  • July 1, 2012
    DarkConfidant
    Briggid in Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War is an Action Girl trained in the use of a bow for war, and was raised by the leader of a band of pirates. She also happens to be the direct descendant of Ulir, and is the only person who can wield the holy bow Ichival until her son Faval takes the mantle in the second generation.
  • July 1, 2012
    Sackett
    Guys Smash Girls Shoot

    Although.... I guess it might be a good idea to have a subtrope about female archers.

    Lots of them to...

    Western Animation:

    Anime and Manga:

  • July 1, 2012
    azul120
  • July 1, 2012
    Bisected8
    Technically Guys Smash Girls Shoot is about the guys having melee weapons and the girls having projectiles. If I've understood it, this is more about the girliest girls having a bow regardless of what the rest of the girls use. So;

    • The only girl or all the girls in the party using a bow would be GSGS
    • A party of melee weapon using guys, a melee weapon using tomboy and a bow using girly girl is this trope.
    • A party of guys with melee weapons, a bow using girly girl and a Black Magician Girl would be both (both the girls use projectiles, but the girliest uses a bow).
  • July 1, 2012
    DarkConfidant
    I understand it differently, which suggests that we need a better definition here. It seems like this trope is supposed to be "women who use bows" to subvert being being the Non-Action Girl, at least by my interpretation.
  • July 1, 2012
    reub2000
    • The Night Elf Archer from War Craft III.
      I said a bow-string, not a G *sigh* Nevermind.
  • July 1, 2012
    lexicon
    Narnia works because she's Queen Susan the Gentle (Lady Of War) but Merida and Katniss couldn't be more of an Action Girl. Nothing graceful and elegant about them and they certainly don't want The Hero to rescue them.
  • July 1, 2012
    MiinU

    Anime and Manga

    • InuYasha's Kikyo is both a miko and a textbook Lady Of War example of this trope. Her skill with the bow is remarked upon early in the series, and shown frequently throughout.
  • July 1, 2012
    TwoGunAngel
    • The Amazon from Diablo II primarily uses bows, crossbows and javelins, while her Diablo III counterpart, the Demon Hunter, primarily uses bows, crossbows and hand crossbows.
  • July 1, 2012
    Bibliophile
    • In the Tortall Universe Queen Thayet uses a bow (or crossbow). In Lioness Rampant, this is contrasted with her tomboy bodyguard, Burri, who also uses other weapons.
      • Daine is also deadly with a bow. However, the contrast here is more a case of her being a commoner, and therefore not using a sword like Alanna.
  • July 1, 2012
    swallowfeather
    I guess Guys Smash Girls Shoot is why there's never been a female archer trope, then. But I've clicked around on here a lot and never heard of that one yet, so I agree that we do need a female archer trope. It always seemed like a gap to me. Sort of a missing link.

    If we're wondering how to narrow this down, it seems to me that this trope is about women characters who are right in the middle of the Sliding Scale of Girliness. More actiony than the Staff Chick, more feminine than the kind of Action Girl who goes in for melee.
  • July 2, 2012
    kjnoren
    I've updated the examples section and done some edits of the description. However, I'm not sure about the balance between "women using bows" and the "nerfed Action Girl" usages - I think my description might fall a little too much towards the latter.
  • July 2, 2012
    Bisected8
    I made a mistake in the example I provided. It should be "Meru uses a hammer" not "Miranda uses a hammer". Sorry.
  • July 2, 2012
    desdendelle
    Literature
    • Forgotten Realms: Catti-brie, the daughter of King Berunor Battlehammer of Mithril Hall, uses a magical bow. Subverted in that she also uses Kazid'hea -- a short sword -- rather skillfully.
    Video Games
    • Battle For Wesnoth:
      • Some of the elves' archers are female. This only means they use a different sprite -- gameplay-wise they're identical to male archers.
      • In Bad Moon Rising (a user-made campaign), all the women of the kingdom of Ukiya learn archery so they'll be able to fend off marauding orcs.
  • July 2, 2012
    LeeM
    Comic Books: Nightfall in Elf Quest.
  • July 2, 2012
    captainpat
    It this just only to be a list of every female Action Girl that uses a bow?

    Because at the very least there should some other trait shared among these character's other than they're female and they use a bow. This looks like this is gonna run into the same problem Hot Chick With A Sword is currently going through with Tropability. Basically, it was decided that an action girls do not appear to be any different based on what weapon they use.
  • July 2, 2012
    Nithael
    To expand on the Warcraft III example:

    The entire night elf military is composed of female members, but in the original game female night elves are only archers or glaive-throwers. The only other female unit that isn't a spellcaster is the High elven archer, and in Warcraft II the only female character was Alleria, an archer.
  • July 2, 2012
    kjnoren
    Alternative description:

    Nominally the Distaff Counterpart to The Archer. However, due to the way media has changed, the Bow Woman has evolved as a way to include an Action Girl or a more active The Chick in the story, while still making sure she is not too much of an action girl and secondary to the men.

    This development is probably due to that the bow seems like a more graceful and elegant weapon than the sword or the spear, and it keeps the user safely away from the enemy and having to get her hands dirty -- and it opens the possibility of having The Hero rescue the bowwoman if the enemy manages to get close. This also means that mythological characters like Artemis or the Amazons do not fit very well into the modern use of the trope.

    If warfare is expected, this is one of the more common weapons for women. In other environments, wanting to learn to use a bow is one way to show that a woman is a Spirited Young Lady or Tomboy, especially if the people around her disapproves.

    Distaff Counterpart to The Archer and a part of Guys Smash Girls Shoot. The Action Girl has a good discussion on this trope is used, and ways to put limits on "action" and emphasise "girl". One of the common variations of a Lady Of War.
  • July 2, 2012
    captainpat
    ^ Again, you need make sure this doesn't turn into or allow itself to be a list of females that use bow. There needs to be some other trait present with these characters. Also, the The Archer is not Always Male, so this isn't a Distaff Counterpart. It is however a Sub Trope of The Archer.
  • July 2, 2012
    Routerie
    How about we make this Elegant Archer? Most of the same examples, but if it's female and not elegant, it's not an example, and it's male and elegant, like an elf or something, it is an example?

    (Yes, this is the opposite of the original plan for Tomboy Archer.)
  • July 2, 2012
    kjnoren
    @captainpat Agreed on the potential problem with this being mainly a list (I'm currently in a discussion about this over in the Swords Are Heroic YKTTW / Heroes Prefer Swords TRS - where most people seems to prefer the list-style trope).

    However, while The Archer may not be Always Male, as written it assumes the character is a man, and it explicitly mentions that The Chick with a warbow is unrealistic in its description.

    Also, Bow Woman can be used in two directions: it can be used as part of a Faux Action Girl, or it can be used to show the opposite of Chickification.
  • July 2, 2012
    kjnoren
    @routerie Elegant Archer sounds like The Same But More Specific as The Archer, which explicitly mentions "calm, self-possessed", and "keep their focus and not let adrenaline upset their aim".

    Ie, The Archer is elegant by default.
  • July 2, 2012
    captainpat
    ^^ But it also mentions that female more often then stuck with the bow. It's supposed to be a gender neutral and the description can be tweak to be make that more apparently.

    Again is there a trait or plot point these character listed here share other than being female archers? Because female archer is The Same But More Specific of both Action Girl and The Archer.
  • July 2, 2012
    Bisected8
    What about All Bows Are Girly (it emphasises that an Action Girl with a bow is more femanine, and includes a pun)?
  • July 2, 2012
    swallowfeather
    There is a phenomenon, especially in movies, where a certain type of fighting woman is given a bow. I think Susan Pevensie is a good embodiment of this in an early scene in Prince Caspian where you see her shoot at the soldiers in the rowboat: she's wearing a long, beautiful gown and her bow stance only increases how good she looks; she looks beautiful and badass at the same time. In an elegant way. I think Guinever from the 2004 King Arthur movie embodies the same only with "sexy" added. I do think "elegant" is a good word to describe it. I think that basically they give these actresses bows because they look really darn good wielding them.

    So yes, I think "elegant" is pretty close to being the specificity we're looking for.

    So, I'd vote for Elegant Archer if we can give it a specific feminine cast, whether in the title or the article. Or Beautiful Archer? (That implies femininity.) "Bow of Femininity" is also an option--it goes in the same direction. (Parallel to Harp of Femininity.)
  • July 2, 2012
    Routerie
    I'd be interested in splitting The Archer. If a movie gives a character a bow to develop her as feminine (or to develop him as effeminate!) that's an entirely different trope from giving character bows to develop them as rugged and resourceful. In fact, each more belongs with other examples of feminine weapons / resourceful weapons than they do with each other.
  • July 2, 2012
    Koveras
    Elegant Archer Girl?

    • Milva in The Witcher novels. Notably, she is much less elegant than other examples.
    • The resident Lady Of War Signum in the Lyrical Nanoha series usually wields a sword but it transforms into a bow for her ultimate ranged Limit Break attack. She is thus the only character in the series to use anything remotely bow-like.
    • Although Leliana in the Dragon Age series is frequently depicted Dual Wielding daggers, her actual starting stats both in Origins and Leliana's Song are geared towards bows. Likewise, one of the best bows in the game is restricted to her.
  • July 2, 2012
    lexicon
    Is Tomboy Archer up for grabs then?
  • July 2, 2012
    MiinU
    Kikyo is listed twice in the OP, and some of the examples need context.
  • July 2, 2012
    kjnoren
    @Miin U thanks for noticing the redundant entry - my anime knowledge is non-existant

    Splitting The Archer seems like a possible route to go, but gender politics rears its ugly head. If we go with feminime / resourceful then there is a clear implication that women can't be capable.

    What about doing the split like Elegant Archer and Rugged Archer?

    Then Susan Pevensie and Legolas go on the Elegant Archer side, while Katniss (probably) and Hawkeye goes on the Rugged Archer side.

    On the other hand, I'm having doubts about how the split would work in practice. Artemis might fit into the elegant side, but Birgitte Silverbow includes both sides to an equal degree. And Robin Hood is all over the map.
  • July 2, 2012
    RossN
    Paris (of Trojan War fame) is another male Elegant Archer.

    Actually considering Paris maybe one of the reasons female characters are put in the archer role is because a male hero is expected to 'get his hands dirty' because he might look cowardly if he doesn't. Even Robin Hood got into a lot of sword fights.

    Female heroes on the other hand don't face that kind of stigma.
  • July 2, 2012
    Routerie
    I like Elegant Archer and Rugged Archer.

    Who knows, some characters may go in both. That's a step up from filing them under Person Who Uses A Bow, who may have the following characteristics but also who may not.
  • July 2, 2012
    Bisected8
    Elegant Archer seems OK to me as well.
  • July 2, 2012
    Ghilz
    I don't really see this as distinct enough from Guys Smash Girls Shoot. It's The Same But More, with the emphasis on "Girls shoot bows". I really don't see the point of a split for a trope that is already covered by an existing trope already. The elegant split itself is YMMV territory. Having a bow makes one more elegant than say, having a Rapier or Katana? "Uses a bow to be more elegant" isn't much of a firm criterion.
  • July 2, 2012
    Routerie
    But isn't it an improvement on just plain Has A Bow, which is what The Archer is?
  • July 2, 2012
    kjnoren
    Another way to handle this is to make a trope The Chick Gets A Bow. I think that captures what swallowfeather is looking for quite nicely, since it implies that she doesn't get the bow in a vacuum. It might even be a way to handle the various Weapon Of Choice tropes.

    This also means that we can include a mention of the Chickification of Paris of Troy in The Illiad.
  • July 2, 2012
    foxley
    Horsewoman from Demon Knights.
  • July 2, 2012
    captainsandwich
    I don't see how Amazons are any more or less 'bow woman' then other examples, aside from maybe disfiguring there secondary sex characteristics. can someone explain that to me?
  • July 2, 2012
    swallowfeather
    I honestly can't make up my mind between Elegant Archer (Woman?) and The Chick Gets A Bow. I think they're both pretty good.
  • July 2, 2012
    Ghilz
    Again, "The Chick Gets A Bow" is covered, by Guys Smash Girls Shoot.

    This isn't a trope. It's an attempt to make a list of girls who use bows, and try to shoehorn a trope into it, when there's already a trope for that.
  • July 2, 2012
    Bisected8
    As I pointed out earlier; it's not the same thing as GSGS and it's possible to demonstrate examples where either or both tropes apply.
  • July 2, 2012
    shimaspawn
    If you launch this, it will go directly to TRS and then get cut as a duplicate. Please don't make more work for TRS.
  • July 2, 2012
    acrobox
    The difference in my mind is that Bow Woman is specifically about women who use bow and arrows as their Weapon Of Choice.

    Guys Smash Girls Shoot is about a woman using any kind of projectile or ranged based moveset and having at least one male counterpart that uses melee attacks as a counterpart.

    Bow Woman can be a stand alone archer. Guys Smash Girls Shoot is a gender specific version of Sword And Sorcerer
  • July 2, 2012
    acrobox
    Sword And Sorcerer is also written to imply that Guys Smash Girls Shoot the default, other forms are subversions. as long as were talking about duplicates.
  • July 2, 2012
    acrobox
    Also Bow Woman has historically significant roots that Guys Smash Girls Shoot and Sword And Sorcerer don't have.

    According to The Other Wiki: in the 18th century (archery) "was notable for its popularity with females. Young women could not only compete in the contests but retain and show off their "feminine forms" while doing so. Thus, archery came to act as a forum for introductions, flirtation and romance."

    You dont need to shoehorn extra stuff like ruggedness or elegance. Just the fact that its more likely for a female to use a bow is a trope on its own.

    Chicks Having Bows is at least as tropable as Heroes Prefer Swords.
  • July 2, 2012
    Routerie
    No, I don't think "women who use bow and arrows as their Weapon Of Choice" works as a trope. We had "woman with a sword" in TRS and we decided to redirect it to Action Girl because Woman + specific weapon is not enough for an independent trope. In fact, most of the Weapon Of Choice tropes are themselves broken.

    Chick Gets The Bow is better, if by "chick" we mean a specific character type rather than just female. But since "chick" is so ambiguous, I suggest we spell that character type right out (Elegant Archer, Rugged Archer). Both could apply to both sexes (though each more to one).
  • July 3, 2012
    planswalker
    • Lords Of Magic has an interesting twist with the water amazons: their "archer" unit is male because males are considered physically inferior and only suitable for ranged work. This is played straight with the life elves, though, where most units besides the bow-wielding thieves and archers are female.
  • July 3, 2012
    kjnoren
    <sheesh> Noone has been talking about launching anything except those who have talked about it not being ready to launch.

    I'm a little concerned about how a split Elegant Archer / Rugged Archer would work. Elegant Archer is fine, but I'm afraid Rugged Archer will devolve into "archer looks dirty, has a beard, or both".

    The Chick Gets The Bow also has trouble as Routerie noted, since it would require that The Chick would denote a specific character type, and The Chick is pretty overloaded and ambiguous.

    Anyway, I think there is qutie a bit of room for additional archery tropes, because I think archery can be used to show at least elegance (Artemis, Legolas), vulnerability (Paris in The Illiad, probably many chicks-with-bows in current media), capability (Katniss, Birgitte, Robin Hood), and independence (Katniss, Artemis).

    I think that's why The Archer feels so unfinished, and why we get so many different almost-but-not-quite tropes bouncing around here.
  • July 3, 2012
    Arivne
    For those of you who don't know: Shimaspawn, who posted 7 entries above asking that this not be launched, is a TV Tropes moderator (as noted in Know The Staff).

    Anything a moderator says should be taken very seriously.
  • July 3, 2012
    Bisected8
    Maybe it would be easiest to say that the trope at hand is; using a bow is a sign that a character inhabits a very narrow band on the scale of femininity/masculinity?
  • July 3, 2012
    kjnoren
    @Bisected8 No. It's more that archery is all over the map, and not only in gender roles. Archery can be used to reinforce characterisations along at least four different axes:

    I think if most people think this feels like a decent split, we should send The Archer to the TRS using this as the basis.
  • July 3, 2012
    planswalker
    ^^ Their word SHOULD be taken seriously, but neither do they have absolute veto power. They're still people with opinions. We definitely need to work on the trope to figure out how to say it so that it doesn't appear to be a duplicate. That said, I'll re-iterate that no one who thinks this trope is valid is saying it should launch. Whoever the two were who put hats, they're jumping the gun.
  • July 3, 2012
    Chabal2
    Fire Emblem Blazing Sword: Once Lyndis gets her class change, she can use a bow in addition to her swords. The first archer ou meet is also a girl.
  • July 3, 2012
    GeminiSparkSP
  • July 3, 2012
    swallowfeather
    kjnoren, I think that last four-way split is the best suggestion I've seen yet, for what it's worth.
  • I don't think this, the tomboy proposal or the gush smash page are trope worthy. We've got a ton of bow tropes and I don't see why "its a girl" should prompt a new one. Maybe if you proposed a trope about how bows are considered "graceful" or "girly" I'd buy it(because they are tools to kill things, pure and simple) similar to how sword's are "manly"(at least bows is practical away from combat)
  • July 3, 2012
    Routerie
    Yes, I like the four way split. "Rugged" encompasses independence and capability, but those are separate characteristics, and yeah, "rugged" just sounds like "dirty."

    I'd rather we phrase them as Elegant Archer, etc rather than Archers Are Elegant etc because we are not actually making blanket statements about archers. Archers in general aren't necessarily elegant, as the other tropes show, but they can connote elegance, in these specific cases. "Archers Are Elegant" may also encourage aversions and "subversions," which actually deserve no mention on the page (but which may fall under one of the other tropes).
  • July 3, 2012
    kjnoren
    ^^ Which suggestion are you thinking of? The original one, or any of the ton of other proposals that are currently being brainstormed in the thread?
  • July 3, 2012
    Routerie
    Actually, could we clarify Archers Are Capable? It means Archers Are Resourceful, not Archers Are Skilled, right? And I see Archers Are Independent as as Archers Are Rebellious, which the Tomboys Know Archery YKTTW is going for, rather than the more literal "archers can live independently because they have the means to do so," which seems too much like "archers are capable/resourceful."
  • The original and the other two I mentioned.
  • July 3, 2012
    kjnoren
    Of course - and they will need to be clarified. This is more to hammer out a starting point for the discussion.

    I'm a little unsure about how distinct Archers Are Capable and Archers Are Independent are myself, and if there is conceptual room for both of them. You're correct in your interpretaton of Archers Are Capable, but I view Archers Are Independent as the latter, or the wish to be able to do the latter. Both independence of thought and being able to make a living as a hunter would be included.

    At least insofar as I envision the tropes. I'm thinking about finding a bunch of archetypal and well-known archer characters to map archer characteristics on. The ones I have right now are Artemis, Paris of Troy, Robin Hood, Green Arrow, Susan Pevensie, Legolas, Katniss Everdeen, and then general HorseArchers. A few more suggestions would probably be good to have.

    I will write up a proposal for the TRS about this tonight, and post a notice here when it's finished.
  • July 4, 2012
    kjnoren
    The TRS is swamped with un-closed threads and doesn't allow another for a while. Here is the draft I made for the TRS post:

    This proposal grow out from the YKTT Ws for BowWoman and TomboysKnowArchery.

    During the discussion it became clear that archery can imply a lot more than is encompassed by The Archer, and various types of splits were discussed, but most of them were deemed as unpractical, even if they often had some level of tropability.

    My proposal is that The Archer is changed into a supertrope, with four subtropes:

    If we are to map a number of well-known archers onto this we get (very roughly, and with a few wild-assed guesses from me):

    • Susan Pevensie, Legolas - capable and elegant
    • Robin Hood, Katniss Everdeen - capable and independent
    • Hawkeye (in The Avengers) - capable and vulnerable (very interesting combination!)
    • Artemis - elegant and independent
    • Paris of Troy - elegant and vulnerable

    Every archer as a well-rounded character is likely to have all of the elements present, the idea is to figure out the two that fits the best to the character as shown in the work.

    But how workable would such a split be, and how could we best set it up in practice? An alternative would be to make six subtropes, each one corresponding to a combination (the last one being independent-vulnerable - not sure I can think of any example). That might be simpler to handle.
  • July 4, 2012
    kjnoren
    The TRS thread is up now.
  • July 4, 2012
    uncannybeetle
    Comics: Dani Moonstar, aka Mirage of the New Mutants, often used a bow because her powers were mental and not physical. It also played up her Native American motif.

    Artemis in the Young Justice cartoon.
  • July 4, 2012
    animeg3282
    The chick gets a boy would be a great redirect for Guys Smash Girls Shoot
  • April 3, 2013
    Alrune
    X
  • April 23, 2013
    Misskitten
    bump
  • April 23, 2013
    lexicon
    Shouldn't this be discarded? The Sponsor's note says "This YKTTW will not be launched. It currently serves as a starting point for a general reworking of The Archer. The Archer TRS is finished.
  • April 25, 2013
    Telcontar
    Ja, I reckon this should be discarded.
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