Created By: GlennMagusHarvey on August 24, 2010 Last Edited By: GlennMagusHarvey on August 24, 2010

Sliding Scale Of Anime Obscurity

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Needs a better title, but this is likely to be a "miscellaneous stuff" or "just for fun" page anyway, rather than a formal trope.

A few months ago I decided to start writing up a list of different "obscurity levels" of animé series. Many tropers have already contributed to this list, though I unfortunately don't have a record of edits made to this Google document.

The list can be seen here:

The page will be launched like this:
  • at the top of the page there will be a short description of this list, followed by
  • a set of instructions on how to add series to this list, followed by
  • the list itself, in folders, one for each level.

The instructions are the following:
  • This list pertains only to animé series. Do not include manga series that do not have animé countepart versions.
  • This list is an approximate measure of obscurity/popularity of the series, specifically...
  1. among the English-speaking animé fandom, and...
  2. on the internet.
  • Different adaptations of the same series that result in substantially different works and/or split fandoms, such as GoLion and Voltron, should be listed separately. However, different language versions of what is substantially the same work should only be listed once, as that work.
Community Feedback Replies: 11
  • July 30, 2010
    Bump, preferably for comments on this page proposal, rather than just changes to the list itself. And it really Needs A Better Title.
  • July 30, 2010
    Is this really a trope?
  • July 30, 2010
    I kinda just said at the top it's not a trope, but more a just for fun thing.

    Though I guess we could make it one of the sliding scale tropes. the Sliding Scale Of Anime Obscurity, perhaps?
  • August 1, 2010
    This doesn't follow the exact format of the sliding scales, but the name could help attract attention and give people a vague idea of what it is.

    The downside of making this a page is the possibility of edit wars. I'm not sure how likely that is, though.
  • August 1, 2010
    Unknown Troper
    Boku no Pico is higher than that, if only for the joke recommendations/sourcing.
  • August 2, 2010
    I think this could probably work. The degree to which a work is well-known is not especially subjective. We could argue 'til the cows come home about whether Serial Experiments Lain was more or less influential than Neon Genesis Evangelion, but I'm hard pressed to see a fanboy so die-hard that they'd argue it's more well-known.

    One question, though- is "obscurity level" meaningfully different from, say, an Anime's Trope Overdosed rating?
  • August 2, 2010
    If anything, I expect to see fanboys arguing that their favorite anime is more obscure than it is.
  • August 2, 2010
    I'm kind of hesistant about this idea, if only for the fact that different audience genres will have different standards to measure popularity that won't cross over into "anime fandom as a whole" or something, making this really confusing and, well, pointless.

    Okay, for example: Boys Love is a genre with a pretty narrow audience, so while Gravitation and Junjou Romantica might be vaguely known by anime fans who don't follow the genre, their popularity from their consumer perspective is a bit different. The Boys Love audience wouldn't just label every series under "obscure" defacto because within the genre there is a big difference between the popularity of different works and yet from a broad perspective how do you translate it? (Because if you are not interested in the genre how would judge the popularity/obscurity of a work?) I think this would be a problem with Girls Love and Josei too at the very least. Shonen, Seinen, and Shoujo have a greater tendency to enter the mainstream, but there's still a problem with assumption here. Basically, does this ranking done have a Shonen bias? A Shoujo one? Because anime fans don't tend to follow all available genres this perception on some level will have to be skewed. If someone who was predominantly a horror movie fan made a list of movies by their obscurity in fandom, what is the likelihood chick flicks would not be showing up proportionate to their popularity because the horror movie fanatic might not really bother observing how well chick flicks are doing among a chick flick fandom and might just assume chick flicks are obscure? (And how would they consider horror in a broader context? Actually, this is getting into Epileptic Trees area, I should just stop)

    I haven't expressed myself well, but do you get what I'm getting at? Mainly I guess, anime is way too broad a scope. And sorry for the tl;dr.
  • August 2, 2010
    Just For Fun is the least accurate term I could ever envision applying to this index.
  • August 16, 2010
    ^ Why?

    ^^ Perhaps there could be some sort of arbitration procedure. For example, if there's a dispute about a series's position, it's submitted to open voting for three days and whatever position gets the most votes wins, or something like that.
  • August 24, 2010
    Bumping, will launch today unless there are serious issues.