Created By: HiddenFacedMatt on December 29, 2011 Last Edited By: HiddenFacedMatt on January 3, 2012
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Hypothetical Example Backfire

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Hidden Faced Matt: I called it scribbles because the pic did not demonstrate much skill or effort. OOTS' drawing, while minimalist, still demonstrates (relatively) more skill than the former page image did. This, rather than the purely subjective matter of taste, was what I figured was relevant. And if it isn't relevant, then what's to stop us from having page images like, let's say, this?
rodneyAnonymous: Nothing.
nrjxll: That would actually be pretty funny.
- This thread discussing the former page image for All Girls Like Ponies

Similar to Analogy Backfire, this is when someone's hypothetical example mentioned to illustrate one point gets addressed in a way that actually illustrates the opposite point.

(Needs More Examples; the trope seems familiar, and I'll take suggestions for alternative page quotes.)
Community Feedback Replies: 10
  • December 29, 2011
    CaveCat
  • December 31, 2011
    HiddenFacedMatt
    ^ Dialogue and/or link to the scene, please. I've seen the movie but I don't remember the context.
  • December 31, 2011
    CaveCat
    Gladly;
    [Timon and Pumbaa are fighting]
    Simba: What are you doing?
    Pumbaa: Ahh!
    Timon: Good question. Uh, let me ask you one.
    Pumbaa: Hippothetically.
    Timon: Very hypothetically. There's this guy...
    Pumbaa: But he's not a lion...
    Timon: No. No, he's not a lion. Yeesh, definitely not a lion... and uh... uh, his daughter, um, say... vanished?
  • January 1, 2012
    HiddenFacedMatt
    ^ Not an example of this trope. You seem to misinterpret what it's about.
  • January 1, 2012
    CaveCat
    I do so know what it's about. The point is, in that scene, Timon and Pumbaa were supposed to be watching Kiara, but she ran away once again, so they tried to hide it from Simba, but when Timon tried asking him a hypothetical question, Simba figured out that Kiara was gone again.
  • January 1, 2012
    randomsurfer
    ^That's I Have This Friend I think.
  • January 3, 2012
    kuyanJ
    @Cave Cat: that's not what this is about. This is about someone using the hypothetical to disprove what it was meant to prove, not simply for any situation where someone's use of a hypothetical has consequences they wouldn't have wanted. Your example would be like putting as an example of Insult Backfire "

    • in So-And-So, Alice calls Bob a 'so-and-so', but this turns out to be his Berserk Button".
  • January 3, 2012
    randomsurfer
    .
  • January 3, 2012
    abk0100
    There's an example that's on the tip of my tongue that's really bothering me. It's an episode of Stargate SG 1, and there's a running gag where O'neil does this, and then realizes what he's done and says "bad example."

    Edit: found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjzk0CyqNEI Turns out I was wrong. It doesn't quite qualify. Except maybe the last one? It's hard to tell. He's trying to show that a guy who claims to be an archeologist is hiding something, so he finds his weapon and says "What kind of archaeologist carries a weapon?" then his Adventure Archaeologist teammate raises his hand and says "I do."

    It isn't technically hypothetic, but it seems so similar to your example that it should be included. I dunno. Maybe it should just have a broader title?
  • January 3, 2012
    Duncan
    I think this may be close enough to Analogy Backfire to just be lumped in with that.
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