Created By: Everdream on November 16, 2013 Last Edited By: Arivne on March 11, 2016
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Scrappy Episode

Unusually hated episode

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There's this one show everyone raving about. Critics are applauding. Your friends won't shut up about it. The Internet is ablaze with it. You finally go to watch it, and it's everything it's cracked up to be and more. Then one say, you see that one episode.

The plot is so atrocious kindergarteners could have written it. Characters are not being true to prior characterization. If it's animated, the art just plain sucks. It's like the writers just decided to show up drunk one day and have a party, leaving the actual work to the very last minutes.

You look it up and find that everyone else hated it. The critic are snobbing it. The fans loathe it. Indeed, the fan base seems to be reveling in is hatred of this episode.

Congratulation, you found a scrappy episode. This is the episode or episode(s) of a otherwise good or at least decent work that everyone hates.

If it's subject to any kind of Dis Continuity or Retcon, there is a good chance it's this.

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  • November 16, 2013
    randomtroper89
    This is definitely going to have to be YMMV, because, while I think this could certainly work, it would be very subjective, due to differences of opinions.

    Live Action TV
    • A Long Runner like M*A*S*H has a few of these:
      • The cast and crew feel this way about "Major Fred C. Dobbs", from Season One, mainly because the network forced them to make this episode, after someone at the network read that Korea was the fifth-largest producer of gold in the world, and wanted the show to do an episode about it.
      • "Hawkeye", from Season Four; in it, Hawkeye sustains a head injury while driving back to the 4077th, is taken in by a Korean family, then basically spends the rest of the entire half-hour monologuing, because he's afraid of slipping out of consciousness. Word Of God was the episode was to see if one character could carry the show by itself, however, Hawkeye was already the unofficial star of the show, so it made little sense to have him carry the torch for his own episode. Other such episodes include:
      • "In Love and War", from Season Six, in which womanizing Hawkeye falls deeply in love with a Korean aristocrat who spends her days taking care of her ill mother and children in the village, and actually lives very modestly and humbly. Many fans consider it sappy and maudlin.
      • "Inga", from Season Seven. It won an Emmy in 1979, however, it has not aged well, considering the episode reflected feminism at the time, and when viewed today, comes off as incredibly dated and uncomfortable, especially how Hawkeye and Charles's male egos are wounded by being shown up by a woman doctor.
    • Seinfeld: The general consensus among fans is that "The Finale" is not only the worst episode of the series, but was a terrible way to wrap up the series, in having the New York Four be held accountable for all their wrong-doings throughout the entire series, then face jail time for it.

    Western Animation
    • Arthur: Many fans feel this way about "Arthur's Big Hit", because of how one-sided the issue of the episode was handled - Arthur spends a week building a model airplane, tells D.W. repeatedly not to touch it, D.W. tosses it out the window to see if it would fly, after it's busted, an enraged Arthur punches D.W., Arthur is grounded for punching her (and belittled by his friends as well), while D.W. receives no punishment for her actions whatsoever. Fans were pissed.
    • Cow And Chicken has "Chicken in the Bathroom", in which Chicken just sits in the tub, refusing to take a bath, while Cow, Mom, and Dad spend almost the entire episode dancing around in the hallway, spouting out various different euphenisms for needing to use the bathroom.
  • November 16, 2013
    TwoGunAngel
    How different is this from Wall Banger and Dethroning Moment Of Suck — both of which are on the Darth Wiki, by the way?
  • November 16, 2013
    gallium
    Western Animation
    • "The Principal and the Pauper", a ninth-season episode of The Simpsons, revealed that Principal Skinner is actually a man named Armin Tanzarian who stole the identity of the real Seymour Skinner, whom he believed to be dead. Eventually everyone decides that they like the fake Skinner better, so they kick the real Skinner out of town and let Armin Tanzarian reassume his fake identity. Making a popular character like Skinner a liar and a fake, as well as conducting a radical Ret Con of his whole backstory, proved to be very controversial with both fans and critics. TV critic Alan Sepinwall singled out this episode as the beginning of the show's decline, Simpsons creator Matt Groening called it one of his least favorite episodes, and Harry Shearer, who does the voice of Skinner, vigorously disapproved of the episode.
  • November 16, 2013
    WeAreAllKosh
    Live-Action TV

    • The Babylon 5 episode "Grey 17 is Missing" gets a lot of enmity from the fans, mainly due to the cheesy one-off Rubber Suit Alien (the "zarg") in the episode, and the bad-science way Garibaldi defeats it. (The annoying gibberish-spewing cult leader that inhabits the "missing" Grey Level 17 probably didn't help either.) The A-plot of this episode is so bad (even Straczynski has disowned it), that the B-plot, which is actually decent, arc-related, and has some heartwarming humor at the end, is oft forgotten, unfortunately. Had this been the A-plot (and reflected as such in the episode title), the whole ZARG! thing would probably have been quickly forgotten as just a quirky B-plot.
  • November 17, 2013
    WeAreAllKosh
    This could be the moment when many agree a show Jumps The Shark (as The Simpsons example above ^^ implies, although in its 20-whatever years I'd say the Simpsons has jumped many sharks). The episode of Happy Days where Fonzie does jump a shark on waterskis might be a Scrappy Episode too.
  • November 17, 2013
    Snicka
  • November 17, 2013
    Chabal2
    • If gamebooks count, the 5th edition Grey Knights codex for Warhammer 40 K should be mentioned. From a gameplay point of view, most units were extremely overpowered (depending on how one weapon's rules are interpreted, entire factions are shut down), but the main complaint were the radical changes to the lore. The Grey Knights, who had the best rate of success against Chaos because they never fell for the trap of trying to use it against itself, now happily use demonically-possessed weapons or fight alongside daemonhosts, cover themselves in the blood of fallen Imperial Sisters of Battle, and their Chapter Master Kaldor Draigo reads like a twelve-year-old's Self Insert Fic, reaching new lows in God Mode Sue (defeating a Daemon Prince in one of his first battles, carving names in another one's heart, defeating a Greater Daemon by himself, wandering through Hell since centuries without falling to temptation or losing a single battle). The justification that nothing he does in the Warp has any lasting effect does little to change the fanbase's opinion.

  • November 17, 2013
    zwolfp
    The Star Wars Holiday Special George Lucas will ensure it won't be released on DVD as long as he lives.

    Also Jumping the shark is when the show goes down hill this trope is a bad episode but other wise a good show.
  • November 17, 2013
    gallium
    Western Animation

    • South Park fans tuned in to the second-season premiere of the show expecting to see the resolution to the first season's cliffhanger, the identity of Cartman's father. Instead they got "Terrance and Phillip in Not Without My Anus", an entire episode featuring Terrance and Phillip, the profane, endlessly farting stars of the Canadian Show Within A Show that the South Park kids love so much. It was April 1, 1998, and creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone made the show as an April Fools' prank on the fans. Comedy Central was deluged with angry phone calls, and e-mails. The episode is rarely shown in reruns.
  • November 17, 2013
    ZuTheSkunk
    • My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic has:
      • The Mysterious Mare Do Well, where Rainbow Dash, discovering that everyone cheers her whenever she performs heroic actions, soon allows her ego get the best of her and she becomes very presumptuous, resulting in her friends having to remind her that a true hero doesn't brag. They do this by taking turns in pretending to be the titular Mare Do Well and performing heroic actions themselves. Most of the complaints revolve around the Broken Aesop and the aforementioned friends bragging about their own deeds themselves, and Rainbow Dash becoming the Butt Monkey of the episode and having an unbearable characterization.
      • Dragon Quest, mostly for promising us with a great idea of delving into Spike's origins (he's a dragon that hatched from his egg during Twilight Sparkle's initiation test for the magic school, and he lived with her ever since), but ended up being a wasted opportunity and revolving mostly around Spike dealing with a bunch of cliche, unlikeable teenage dragons.
      • Spike At Your Service. In short, Applejack saves Spike's life from a bunch of timberwolves, and he vows to serve her for the rest of her life because of his Dragon Code. Now, where do we even begin? Conspicuous CGI Timberwolves (with the show never using CGI before), Spike's unbearable characterization and suddenly being turned from a likeable, intelligent, sometimes snarky guy into an absentminded klutz, Ass Pull in the form of his Dragon Code that was never brought up before, characters acting out of character in general, very cliche premise, and to top it all off, this episode was originally meant to be actually about Spike serving Rarity - for whom he had a crush from the beginning of the show and it would actually justify a lot of the stuff happening in this episode - but it was scrapped and Rarity was replaced with Applejack because the main writer couldn't write her in a way that wasn't turning her into a giant bitch.
      • It says a lot that all of the above episodes were written by the same writer.
  • November 17, 2013
    Psi001
    • The Simpsons episode "A Star Is Burns" was also reviled by Groening and several fans at the time of airing, due to being a crossover to less than shrewdly advertise FOX's newer animated show The Critic.
    • The Antoine focused shorts of the second season of Sonic Satam ("Fed Up With Antoine"/"Ghost Busted" and "The Odd Couple"/"Ro-becca") receive negative press from the fans. The half length episodes were a result of Executive Meddling asking for more light hearted stories, however while some comedic Slice Of Life episodes with the Freedom Fighters at least had some potential, most of the shorts are somewhat misplaced cartoony antics focused near entirely on the imbecilic behavior of the team's Load (who already had an excessive amount of spotlight in most of Season Two to begin with).

    • "Ponyville Confidential" also seems to treated somewhat negatively by fans. The plot revolves around the Cutie Mark Crusaders becoming school news reporters, making embarrassing reports on the rest of Ponyville. Other ponies enjoy the articles immensely...until they become involved in the stories themselves. Meanwhile the Cutie Marks get trapped in a Mortons Fork situation, blackmailed by the paper's editor Diamond Tiara to keep making stories but made pariahs by the rest of the town for their actions (to put this into perspective, a trio of little kids have been alienated and borderline disowned by their family and friends for making somewhat embarrassing stories about them). Similarly to the "Mysterious Mare-Do-Well" Aesop, the other ponies are placed in Rightly Self Righteous Designated Hero territory, with the Cutie Marks apologizing for their actions and risking humiliation by quitting (though Diamond Tiara is caught out before this happens), with only Rarity remotely admitting her hypocrisy on the matter.

    This trope probably goes into YMMV without saying (personally I spent most of "Chicken In The Bathroom" in hysterics). :P
  • November 17, 2013
    WeAreAllKosh
    ^^^^ Yes I know. I wasn't saying this trope is Jumping The Shark, but that a Scrappy Episode can sometimes be what makes a show jump the shark, the point where audiences start thinking it's going downhill. I.e. something to maybe include in the page text.

    One critic felt that that Simpsons episode mentioned above ("The Principal and the Pauper") was a shark jumping: "TV critic Alan Sepinwall singled out this episode as the beginning of the show's decline", quote from that post. That's what made me make the connection.

    I certainly don't think "Grey 17 is Missing" made Babylon 5 jump the shark—not by a long shot. In fact, the show never jumped :). (Okay, maybe it did with Byron... season 5 was somewhat anticlimactic anyway.)
  • November 17, 2013
    XFllo
    Lots of the examples have incorrect Example Indentation.

    If there is more than one example in a single show, the format goes like this:
    • Title:
      • Example 1.
      • Example 2.
    The following format is incorrect and should not be used.

    • Title: Example 1.
      • Example 2.

    I think this Audience Reaction is unnecessary. As Two Gun Angel pointed out, we have a Wall Banger and a Dethroning Moment Of Suck.
  • November 17, 2013
    DAN004
    • "The Great Divide" from Avatar The Last Airbender. It has nothing to do with the plot in the long run, and the aesop is broken in the endnote . So much that the episode "The Ember Island Players" (which somehow retells Aang's tales in a theater) decides to skip this part.
  • November 17, 2013
    Koveras
    I also don't think we need any more YMMV pages focusing on the negative aspects of the shows here. I seem to recall reading somewhere that this wiki was about celebrating fiction. Oh, right, that's just our Home Page.
  • November 17, 2013
    Mauri
    Instead of spending more time into the revilement of something we don't like we have to spend some into praising things we like.
  • November 17, 2013
    SeptimusHeap
    Filed a motion to discard - as Complaining About Shows You Dont Like says, we don't want more complaining pages.
  • November 17, 2013
    AmyGdala
    How about you choose some tropable aspect related to these bad episodes and make a page for that instead?
  • November 17, 2013
    Koveras
    ^ As long as it isn't covered by an existing entry under Bad Writing Index.
  • November 17, 2013
    Prfnoff
    I really don't want this launched under the title. "Scrappy" as a synonym for "unusually hated" is a usage I'm sick of on this wiki.
  • November 17, 2013
    DracMonster
    This is a tv series version of That One Level or That One Boss. That One Episode?

    Dunno if snow cloning is kosher here.
  • November 17, 2013
    SeptimusHeap
    That One X is usually about hard video game mechanics/concepts.
  • November 17, 2013
    Koveras
    Video game difficulty is an objective thing, audience reactions to an episode are not.
  • November 17, 2013
    MorningStar1337
    ^^^^ Y'know you can try thr TRS or ATT and see if The Scrappy falls under Grandfather Clause or not if the latter, you can cask for the name to be changed, that should stop the association and subsequent synonymic meaning.
  • November 17, 2013
    DAN004
    ^ It surely falls under Grandfather Clause since it's an Overdosed Trope with many links.
  • November 18, 2013
    SeptimusHeap
    The Scrappy did go through TRS. The rename was voted down, and it would likely have been vetoed even if it passed.

    Now, anyone against discarding this draft?
  • November 18, 2013
    Prfnoff
    I never said I wanted to rename The Scrappy. What I'm against is the use of "scrappy" for things other than characters. I think that would deserve its own LTP cleanup thread; the existing STP cleanup thread doesn't address that issue.
  • December 1, 2013
    Noah1
    All things considered, I do like this trope idea. Wall Banger and Dethroning Moment Of Suck mainly draw from the opinion of one or more poster, whereas this trope draws from a more general opinion of the majority of the fandom. Here's a few cartoon examples (Anyone else can elaborate on them, I'm just providing a jumping point):
  • December 1, 2013
    ryanasaurus0077
    Killing Brian in the Family Guy episode "Life of Brian" wasn't a particularly smart move on the part of the writers either.
  • December 2, 2013
    Polarbear2217
    • The Twilight Zone
      • "Cavender is Coming" is probably the most hated episode. Rod Serling tried to make a new series about guardian angels. His first try was rejected and he turned it into the Twilight Zone episode "Mr. Bevis" in the first season, which is generally disliked. In the third season, Serling tried and failed again. He turned into "Cavender is Coming" People hate it for it's painfully unfunny humor and incompetent direction. Sci Fi added a Laugh Track in syndication so people knew when to laugh.

      • "Uncle Simon" is hated because the entire plot consists of two bland, irritation characters insulting each other

      • "Sound and Silences" is hated because the Be Careful What You Wish For story has been done numerous times better on the show before and the main character is unbearably annoying.

    Those are the three episode that I think are most universally hated. Other possibilities include "From Agnes-With Love", "The Brain Center at Whipple's", and "Showdown With Rance Mc Grew."
  • December 2, 2013
    lakingsif
    Doctor Who's Love and Monsters
  • December 2, 2013
    DAN004
    I think it should be explained why these particular episodes are scrappy.
  • December 2, 2013
    chicagomel
    Buffy The Vampire Slayer "Beer Bad"... But can someone explain it?

    Highlander "The Zone", among a few other eps, is hated because of its lack of any real immortal element and lackluster plot. However, this one is usually deemed the worst.
  • December 3, 2013
    Paradisesnake
    Ok, let's make something clear here... hats are to be given only when the draft is ready to be launched in its current state.

    This doesn't even have a single example listed yet, so this clearly isn't the case. Hatting is not a way of saying "I think this is tropable". People need to stop giving this hats it doesn't deserve.
  • December 3, 2013
    SeptimusHeap
    Pulled another hat, for the following two reasons:
    1. As Complaining About Shows You Dont Like says "Creating a trope for the sole purpose of listing shows you despise ("Moron Fodder: Shows that you'd have to have a single-digit IQ score to enjoy!") is not allowed." Plus, No new complaining pages.
    2. No examples —> not suitable for a launch.
  • December 3, 2013
    CrypticMirror
    Yanked a hat, this is just going to descend into complaining, edit wars, natter and all manner of justifying edits. Please kill it now, kill it with fire, it is far too subjective to be of any use. Maybe it could be a forum thread, but apart from that. Motion To Discard.
  • December 3, 2013
    justanotherrandomlurker
    Again, this could work, but, it would have to be a YMMV, certainly because of differences of opinions. Personally, almost all of the examples I listed above that could be used towards this YKTTW are based entire on the overall opinion within the fandoms, and such as the case of M*A*S*H, as noted, the episode, "Major Fred C. Dobbs" is hated by the actual cast and crew, and a lot of fans do also consider it a poor episode; likewise, with Seinfeld, it's been mentioned in many different interviews with different cast members that many fans hated "The Finale". So, it would certainly help only if examples that are submitted are episodes that a majority of the fandom agree are pretty poor.

    On the other hand, yes, I can see the concern some people are expressing about this turning into a complaining trope, or fueling edit wars... but ya know what? A lot of YMM Vs already garner a lot of that kind of stuff. Getting back to Seinfeld as an example, the Seasonal Rot on that show's YMMV page is edited all the time.

    And yes, I agree it would be nice if the OP would take care of this YKTTW and added some of these examples to the description.
  • December 4, 2013
    JustaUsername
    It definitely is something you tend to see, the episode people tend to hate. I don't think it would cause too many issues if it suddenly appeared. I mean, we have the Wall Banger and Dethroning Moment Of Suck pages to divert the more subjective opinions.
  • December 4, 2013
    DAN004
    So what, should this go to Darth Wiki instead? (but then all Scrappy pages should go there too...)
  • December 4, 2013
    StarSword
    I vote dump it. I count six motions to discard including mine, so I'm gonna pull the trigger.
  • December 9, 2013
    JapanRider
    Danny Phantom episode "Double Cross my Heart" is a very stupid episode. Sam calls out Danny for spying on her and her boyfriend Gregor/Elliot. The reason why this episode pissed me off is because Sam doesn't have the right to belated Danny for spying when she spied on him during that time he was dating Valerie. On fanfic writer even pointed out how hypocritical Sam was.
  • March 11, 2016
    fruitstripegum
    The Family Guy episode "Seahorse Seashell Party". You know, the episode where the writers all but outright say that people who are being abused should stay in an abusive relationship because it will benefit their abusers?

    Seriously, what the HELL where they thinking?! No, better question - WERE they thinking?!
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=pn88pm5pgjfjir9hak7seq2g&trope=DiscardedYKTTW