Created By: ShanghaiSlave on January 8, 2014 Last Edited By: ShanghaiSlave on January 10, 2014
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Tritagonist

The third most important character of a story.

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Impending discard. still waiting for replies.

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Back in the days of Ancient Greek Theatre. where there were only two actors. you can only do so much interesting Black and White conflict stories before it gets old.

This is where the Tritagonist comes in. Originally, this character is someone who played an adversarial role to the Protagonist. which allowed the Deuteragonist to play a supportive role to the hero.

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examples:

Anime and Manga
  • Zetsuen no Tempest has Fuwa Aika. the story was set in motion by Mahiro's desire to avenge her murder, they then discover that she was killed by a mage and that particular mage is not one of the (as of then) antagonists, The Kusaribe. One of the Defector from Decadence Kusaribe, Hakaze tried to find out what actually happened by traveling back in time, and she discovered that Aika is actually that particular mage, and with that, she decides to commit suicide to prevent a Time Paradox, which sets the plot in motion, and gives her big brother Mahiro a reason for a Roaring Rampage of Revenge and her lover Yoshino a terrible bout of depression which only furthered his manipulative nature.

  • Yu-Gi-Oh!: Seto Kaiba would be The Tritagonist to Yugi, who he wants to defeat in Duel Monsters to salvage his reputation from his past defeats, and prove he's the superior Duelist. His motives are portrayed as hateful and selfish, and he often opposes Yugi's destiny as The Chosen One, and disbelieves any of the supernatural stuff that Yugi attracts calling it "Hocus Pocus". The Deuteragonist would be Joey/Jounichi, who gets his own side stories/development separate from Yugi, and is primarilly Yugi's ally, but has to duel against Yugi occasionally to meet his own goals.

Western Animation
  • Avatar: The Last Airbender: Zuko would be the Tritagonist to Aang, because of his sympathetic motives. He at first opposes Aang because wants to capture and bring Aang to the fire lord to regain his honor, so he's no longer exiled from his home. Katara, and Toph would share the Deuteragonist role getting a lot of their own stories, and being important characters, but not outright support characters.
Community Feedback Replies: 22
  • January 8, 2014
    ShanghaiSlave
    i realize this one is a redirect.

    but The Other Wiki has a different definition of it, so here.
  • January 8, 2014
    Chabal2
    • Cassidy in Preacher. After Jessie is separated from him and Tulip, Cassidy reveals himself to be an amoral, self-centered asshole who doesn't tell Tulip Jessie's last words before he fell from their plane ("Tell her I love her"), but also starts drugging her so she'll forget about him.
  • January 8, 2014
    Koveras
  • January 8, 2014
    DAN004
    Is this even notable? We already have Deuteragonist listing Tritagonists.
  • January 8, 2014
    ShanghaiSlave
    there's a courtesy link with an obvious distinction from "the other guy the story is about".

    "tritagonist" as used in Deuteragonist is Not This Trope.

    Chabal2
    I'm afraid i'm not seeing Cassidy as "third important character who incites the protagonist's suffering". please note their roles.

    Koveras
    that's Deuteragonist. check out the link at the top of the description. i'm just testing the waters on this one before fully fleshing out the description.
  • January 8, 2014
    kjnoren
    The term tritagonist seems to be deeply tied to the three-character ensemble used in many Greek dramas. Not sure the term makes sense outside of such a specific form/genre.
  • January 8, 2014
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^ i've noticed it can apply on Minimalist Cast stories, which is why i gave this one a try.

    though then again, my example had a very clear role, being a Posthumous Character so important no episode doesn't refer to her. it's as if she isn't even dead.
  • January 8, 2014
    Bisected8
    Not to be picky, but wouldn't it be better to describe the concept in the description, rather than resorting to a wikipedia link?

    Also, what's the specific difference between a tritagonist and an antagonist? Would it cover, say, The Hero's mean co-worker/boss who he punches out at the end of the movie?
  • January 8, 2014
    DAN004
    Technically, if we gonna list a tritagonist, there must be a deuteragonist in that work. That's why I said it is covered.
  • January 8, 2014
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^^ of course. But I was pressed for time as well so there.

    I'll explain the difference in the description as soon as i finish some school project.

    ^ that makes sense, but like in a Freudian Trio, where you can't have one without the others, it's technically not covered.
  • January 8, 2014
    DAN004
    ^ So Deuteragonist But More Specific?
  • January 9, 2014
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^ that would be the case if "the one who causes the main characters' suffering" is a more specific version of "the other guy the story is about", because by that logic, Antagonist would also be Deuteragonist But More Specific.
  • January 9, 2014
    DAN004
    ^ Au contraire, Antagonist isn't always Deuteragonist. Main Antagonist (i.e Big Bad, The Heavy and Arch Enemy), OTOH, is.

    So e.g Mega Man X: X is protagonist, Zero is deuteragonist and Sigma is... IDK, antagonist? Another tritagonist?
  • January 9, 2014
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^ Sigma is the antagonist, correct. but tell me... who else is a major character who troubles the heroes but is not the antagonist? right, Vile would be the Tritagonist here.
  • January 9, 2014
    Snicka
    In a Love Triangle situation, the Official Couple will usually be the Protagonist and the Deuteragonist, while the third party, if not a straight-up Antagonist, will be a Tritagonist.
  • January 9, 2014
    xanderiskander
    If this gets off the ground Deuteragonist is going to need some tweaking in it's description and examples to fit with this.

    But it seems based off reading wikipedia that a Deuteragonist is primarily an ally to the The Protagonist, with his own part in the story separate from the main character's but can chose to oppose The Protagonist later as well depending on how the story plays out.

    The Tritagonist on the other hand is primarily antagonistic to The Protagonist first, and the least sympathetic of the three, but not an outright Antagonist. A Tritagonist is thus often The Rival or other kind of Foil.

    Some examples to put it into perspective

    Anime & Manga
    • Yu Gi Oh: Seto Kaiba would be The Tritagonist to Yugi, who he wants to defeat in Duel Monsters to salvage his reputation from his past defeats, and prove he's the superior Duelist. His motives are portrayed as hateful and selfish, and he often opposes Yugi's destiny as The Chosen One, and disbelieves any of the supernatural stuff that Yugi attracts calling it "Hocus Pocus". The Deuteragonist would be Joey/Jounichi, who gets his own side stories/development separate from Yugi, and is primarilly Yugi's ally, but has to duel against Yugi occasionally to meet his own goals.

    Western Animation
    • Avatar The Last Airbender: Zuko would be the Tritagonist to Aang, because of his sympathetic motives. He at first opposes Aang because wants to capture and bring Aang to the fire lord to regain his honor, so he's no longer exiled from his home. Katara, and Toph would share the Deuteragonist role getting a lot of their own stories, and being important characters, but not outright support characters.
  • January 9, 2014
    DAN004
    Mega Man X also had Axl after the seventh game.
  • January 10, 2014
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^^ Finally. also, which Yugi do you mean? Yami? i guess that makes Motou Supporting Protagonist right?

    ^ I wasn't expecting Zero Context Example from you...
  • January 10, 2014
    DAN004
    Well I have no idea how to explain it... ;_;
  • January 10, 2014
    ShanghaiSlave
    Wait goddammit:

    (Deutragonist) can be either with, or against the protagonist - thus sometimes pulling double duty as a main antagonist, though they are rarely the primary antagonist in these scenarios.

    Fuck this. Turns out Deuteragonist already indeed covers this. though i'd say it was pretty well hidden, considering none of you pointed out this particular snippet which was the only thing differentiating Deuter from Trita.

    Where do i go to ask permission to rewrite the description to make this particular line clearer?

    i'll wait for a few more replies before discarding this.
  • January 10, 2014
    Snicka
    ^ I think the Wiki Magic allows you to add or modify anything in a description.
  • January 10, 2014
    ShanghaiSlave
    I see. though maybe i'll poat on ATT just to be sure.
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