Created By: soldier1 on February 23, 2012
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"these wacky soviets"

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Theres already "these wacky nazis", so this could be a russian equivalent. There's plenty of real-life examples, like Stalin being an occultist , conspiracy theories, etc
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  • February 23, 2012
    Belfagor
    Stalin being an occultist? What else, he dressed in drag and did the hula?

    I think there's already Dirty Communists for that.
  • February 23, 2012
    Koveras
    ^ Yeah, that's where it goes.

    Also, two nitpicks: "Russian" is not synonymous with "Soviet" and placing Soviet Union in the same context as Nazi Germany is a major Flame Bait.
  • February 23, 2012
    Belfagor
    Exactly. I think there's already a trope covering the portrayals of Soviets as crazy and/or strange (and many more, with enought natter, but this is just a footnote)
  • February 23, 2012
    Arivne
    Prototype tank

    i meant things like this "protype" tank (it's real) Also, not the "evil" side of commies, rather the weird one. Maybe the invension of russian roulette qualifies

    Edit: This post has been edited by Arivne to change a picture URL that was breaking YKTTW to a link. The original poster was soldier1. soldier1, to put your name back on this post just edit it in any way, such as by deleting this paragraph.
  • February 23, 2012
    Belfagor
    Actually, the russian roulette was born in the Tsarist army. A trope about Soviet oddities would be fine, but without Real Life examples, since I think it would start too many Edit Wars.
  • February 23, 2012
    mdulwich
    The Command and Conquer: Red Alert series would surely count. They have cannons that shoot bears! Also, the psychic stuff in the latest Indiana Jones film.
  • February 23, 2012
    soldier1
    maybe everybody's general opinion of the russians from Black Lagoon? also ,"dance !Kremlin palace !(warning, was done by guro artist)ridicules communism and soviet era in general
  • February 24, 2012
    Koveras
    So, a depiction of Russians and, optionally, other former Soviet block countries as Crazy Awesome, then? I could live with that.

    Historically, that perception stems from major cultural differences between West and East, with Russia being stuck in-between. Hence, the Westerners have difficulty understanding Russian mentality, yet cannot deny the fact that Russia is a force to be reckoned with (as pretty much any invader since the Mongols would tell you). Hence the perception that Russians are simultaneously insane and frighteningly efficient, especially when it comes to fighting.

    We have similar tropes in Mother Russia Makes You Strong, Husky Russkie (both of which reflect the "efficient in combat" perception) and perhaps Sensual Slavs (which is not exclusively Russian).
  • February 25, 2012
    aurora369
    This prototype tank is Tsarist and bona fide all-Russian, not Soviet. Russian Roulette, too.
  • February 25, 2012
    MorganWick
    Souds like this is closer to Stupid Jetpack Hitler than Those Wacky Nazis.
  • February 25, 2012
    Koveras
    Those Wacky Nazis is essentially a list of borderline parody stereotypes common in the portrayal of Nazis in Western media. I believe that we already have something similar for the Soviets in Glorious Mother Russia. What it lacks is a list of stereotypes, like the sly, trigger happy Commissar, the old ushanka-wearing General, the grim young Ace Lieutenant (two flavors: cynical nihilist and ideological fanatic), the hot Russian girl who falls in love with the Western hero (can of worms, this one), her Dark Action Girl+The Vamp counterpart who gets killed in the end... This can be an interesting analysis, but, as I said, it belongs in Glorious Mother Russia. Stupid Jetpack Russians is a separate thing.
  • February 25, 2012
    AgProv
    That 1917 model Tsarist "tank" (more a massive tricycle) was an utterly impractical design born out of desperation, like some of Hitler's late WW 2 fantasy tanks. This places it in terms of its look and context very firmly within the Steam Punk trope?

    Better examples might have been some of the monsters designed in the 1930s - Stalin would have approved them personally - which were named after his mate Klimenti Voroshilov, a bombastic incompetent boozer. These were eighty or ninety or hundred ton monsters sent into battle against Finland in 1939, unmanouevreable metal bricks with too many turrets or not enough enginepower. Only the KV-1, the smallest and lightest of the series, was a success and this became the father of a long line of Russian heavy tanks. But some of its related design failures...
  • February 25, 2012
    aurora369
    "Mate" in which sense? Ho Yay?
  • February 26, 2012
    AgProv
    Ha! Drinking buddy since the Civil War.... thery just got pissed together. If you want a pervert, Beria stands out! (Stalin's police chief)
  • February 28, 2012
    aurora369
    Beria wasn't into Ho Yay. He preferred loli, thank you very much.
  • March 8, 2012
    TBeholder
    As far as i understand, it's about Soviet Union (mainly post-war) being used as a stock source/area of "exotic" elements -- what with Iron Curtain and all the secrecy. Sometimes extending on the successor states by the way of "and now some locals sell this on black market".

    And there definitely is a trend for such uses. Especially concerning Mad Science and in the vein of "there are rumours of bears on the streets so maybe they have Bear Cavalry". ;]
  • March 8, 2012
    CrypticMirror
  • March 8, 2012
    Treblain
    Yes, the Mad Science stuff falls under Soviet Super Science.
  • March 14, 2012
    Belfagor
    It seems that this would quickly evolve into a Natterfest.
  • March 14, 2012
    alsmith
    Isn't 'Those Crazy Russians' a commonly-used phrase already? Seems like it would be a more appropriate title than using the Wackiness associated with the Nazi trope.

    Or is it just me? Am I the only one that sees the troperific media representations of Soviet Russia as "Crazy" - "a little unhinged but otherwise relatable," whereas the Nazi regime is so inhuman that it's "Wacky?" The old stereotype clothing of the Soviets is greatcoat and bearskin hat - well, it happens to be *cold* in Russia. The stereotype clothing of the Nazis is grey uniforms, maybe a bit of leather in there as well. I don't believe they had a surplus of cow hide. Certainly more "Wacky" than "Crazy."

    Plus if you say "Crazy Russians" in a Russian accent I find it amusing.
  • March 15, 2012
    Koveras
    I feel that this suggestion can be adequately covered in the existing entries Glorious Mother Russia (for general stereotypes like coats and hats) and Soviet Super Science (for crazy tech).
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