Created By: ElRodrigo on April 9, 2014 Last Edited By: RyRodrigo on May 26, 2014
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From Breakout to Scrappy (YMMV)

A character once considered to be a work\'s Breakout or Darkhorse becomes The Scrappy later on.

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A character in a work of fiction quickly rises above the cast and becomes a wildly popular character that people can't get enough of.

Later down the line, however, fans actually have had enough of the character, and want to see them punted to the sidelines as quickly as possible. What could have happened?

Maybe the creators caught on and gave them way too much screentime, at the cost of other characters. Perhaps said character developed a few annoying habits that began to wear thin on people. More often than not, though, another reason could be that the very thing that made the character popular in the first place got Flanderized to the point where it's no longer a loveable trait, but something that outright annoys everyone about the character.

This is a specific form of Character Derailment that applies to a former Ensemble Darkhorse or Breakout Character that caused their former fandoms to turn on them and label them as The Scrappy instead. Is the opposite trope to Rescued from the Scrappy Heap, where a Scrappy improves his standing with the fans and is no longer considered to be one.

Examples

Anime and Manga
  • The Shinigami in Bleach. When first introduced, the Shinigami were interesting and complex antagonists that represented a Dystopian feudal social system. Their awesome powers, various personal struggles to do what was right versus what was law, made them extremely popular. After the conclusion of that arc, however, most of the Deliberate Values Dissonance was dropped and they became standard heroic supporting characters. From that point on, they started appearing in every arc to bail out the protagonists, often accompanied by sudden and unexplained boosts in power, engaging in sub-plots that sometimes took months to resolve.
  • Kaname Ohgi from Code Geass was an Ensemble Darkhorse early on for being a somewhat sensible everyman and Voice Of Reason, his inner monologue of support for Zero gaining him points. Things started to go south when he fell for an amnesiac Villetta, who had been trying to capture Zero for Britannia. Things soon went south once the latter regained her memories, as she shot him during the Black Rebellion due to a moment of unguardedness on his part caused by his blind love. Come the middle of the following season, he went AWOL to meet her knowing full well she wanted to kill him. The worst of it came when, and in an onset of stunning gullibility, self-righteousness and hypocrisy, agreed with Villetta and Schneizel in their case against Lelouch and struck a deal known only amongst most of the other Black Knights to sell out their leader in return for Japan, effectively derailing the rebellion against Britannia. As if that weren't enough to turn him into a full fledged Scrappy, the next several episodes, which included Lelouch to consequently resort to even more extreme measures in what now included an excuse to have himself killed, with Ohgi happily married at the end and elected Japanese Prime Minister in spite of his short-sighted incompetence that led to the aforementioned, oft-maligned turn of events, certainly did the trick.

Comics

Live-Action TV
  • Sesame Street. This can be considered of Elmo. Elmo skyrocketed to popularity after Kevin Clash took over the character, establishing the little red monster as the lovable and bright-eyed laugher with the unforgettable falsceto voice. Elmo continued to grow in popularity in The '90s, especially when Tickle-Me Elmo hit the toy stores and became the top-selling toy in 1996. By 1998, Elmo had his own recurring segment on Sesame Street, entitled, Elmo's World, which lasted till 2012, when it was replaced with Elmo: The Musical. At the same time, however, as Elmo became more and more of the driving force of Sesame Street, some fans (particularly old-school fans) grew to find Elmo's over exposure to be overkill, and Elmo himself to be more annoying than lovable; it also doesn't help that most of Sesame's merchandising is pretty much relegated to Elmo products (not to mention, there's an unwritten rule that Elmo has to be featured on the covers of DV Ds - even if he isn't featured in the content much - otherwise they won't sell).
  • In Supernatural Charlie Bradbury was a severe Base Breaker at first, with some citing her as an excellent non-stereotypical homosexual character and others thinking that her adorkable traits were being shoved into the faces of the audience. However, as her appearances moved on and she got more focus, her unique traits got less focus and she became more generic (but also more inexplicably badass and skilled), leading to her becoming a full on Creator's Pet as audiences lost interest in her.

Video Games

Webcomics
  • Bun-Bun, the literal Killer Rabbit from Sluggy Freelance, was funny at first, but his status as both a God-Mode Sue and Karma Houdini eventually led to many readers growing tired of the character. This was only exacerbated by the Oceans Unmoving storyline, which replaced every character except Bun-Bun and went on for a very long time.

Western Animation

  • Mako from Legend of Korra can count, at first his appearence was very hyped by both fans and creators as a Legacy Character to Zuko "without the angst" (as stated by the creators themselves) then thanks to a LOT of romantic drama taking away the attention from the main plot, where he basically came off as a insensitive jerk he quickly became so unpopular that it was even lampshaded and mocked in the DVD commentary
  • The Duke of Lemongrab from Adventure Time. He gained a lot of exposure from his small, but very loud fandom. Then, he began to do some truly detestable things, such as mauling and abusing his (now) disabled brother, starving and torturing his subjects whilst growing fatter, and turning his palace into a prison for his followers. No fan would defend him after that.
  • Pam from Archer was amusing in the first few seasons when she had that Those Two Girls dynamic with fellow Cloud Cuckoo Lander Cheryl. Then, in Season 5, she got a lot more screentime, and turned into The Millstone for the gang, with an annoying cocaine eating habit that got old fast.
  • Pepper in Iron Man: Armored Adventures initially was a fan-favourite and the reason many fans gave a chance to this show despite being an In-Name-Only adaptation of its source material. Since then, the show has become popular of its own, but Pepper has ended up becoming a Damsel Scrappy due to turning into a Faux Action Girl.
  • Sheen Estevez from The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron was arguably an ensemble darkhorse in the Jimmy Neutron series, probably because he was a relatively normal The Ditz who was obsessed with the in-universe TV Show superhero, Ultra Lord, but still cared about his friends and family. When he got his own spin-off series, Planet Sheen, he was flanderized into a Too Dumb to Live The Ditz who was utterly indifferent towards his friends and family on Earth, to the point where he doesn't even attempt to repair the damaged rocket. He also never listens to the advice of his super intelligent chimp friend, Nesmith, and blames him for his own mistakes. To add insult to injury, as of the "Cutting the Ultra Cord" episode, Sheen is no longer obsessed with Ultra Lord.
  • Cheese from Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends. In his first couple of appearances, he was quite popular for his unbridled kookiness. Before long though, Cartoon Network began shilling him in promo after promo, and in-series he became a major millstone to everyone around him, turning off many viewers.
  • Elmyra Duff from Tiny Toon Adventures was reportedly fairly well liked at the time the show first premiered on television. It may have been because at the time, she was a recurring Obliviously Evil antagonist who despite never meaning any true harm to animals, was considered a dangerous threat to them. As the series progressed, Elmyra was used a lot more often on the show, to the point where two episodes of the series were meant to serve as a spin-off focusing on her family, which never got picked up. Add to that the short, "Out of Odor" (part of "Viewer Mail Day") where she mistakes Fifi La Fume for a cat and successfully manages to make her her pet due to a rose allergy, as well as the infamous Pinky and the Brain spin-off, Pinky, Elmyra & the Brain, in which the two titular lab mice are her pets and endure torture from her, and you'll see why many people (including the producers of PE&TB) hate her.
  • Catbug, the Ridiculously Cute Critter Team Pet in Bravest Warriors, was the most popular character in Season 1 despite only having two scenes due to how simply adorable he was. Then the creators caught on and gave him more time in the spotlight, giving him dimensional-hopping superpowers which set off the plot for Season 2. This was also well-recieved. Then Season 2 itself came around, and he was thrown into being the star for several episodes in a row, finally crossing the Moral Event Horizon when his "animal instincts" led him to behead Jelly Kid. Now he's, at best, a severe Base Breaker.
  • Believe it or not, the Trope Namer Scrappy Doo can fall into this. His introduction actually revitalized the Scooby-Doo franchise for quite a few years, and kids back then were pretty fond of his character. It was only after time kicked in that people began to show their contempt of his character.
Community Feedback Replies: 44
  • April 9, 2014
    RoseBride
    Huh, this wasn't nearly as complain-y as I expected.

    That said, it will be a magnet for whining. Also, Ensemble Darkhorse doesn't just mean popular, it's a minor character being unexpectedly popular.

    • In Supernatural Charlie Bradbury was a severe Base Breaker at first, with some citing her as an excellent non-stereotypical homosexual character and others thinking that her adorkable traits were being shoved into the faces of the audience. However, as her appearances moved on and she got more focus, her unique traits got less focus and she became more generic (but also more inexplicably badass and skilled), leading to her becoming a full on Creators Pet as audiences lost interest in her.
  • April 9, 2014
    KingZeal
    • The Shinigami in Bleach. When first introduced, the Shinigami were interesting and complex antagonists that represented a Dystopian feudal social system. Their awesome powers, various personal struggles to do what was right versus what was law, made them extremely popular. After the conclusion of that arc, however, most of the Deliberate Values Dissonance was dropped and they became standard heroic supporting characters. From that point on, they started appearing in every arc to bail out the protagonists, often accompanied by sudden and unexplained boosts in power, engaging in sub-plots that sometimes took months to resolve.
  • April 9, 2014
    RoseBride
    Western Animation
    • Mako from Legend of Korra can count, at first his appearence was very hyped by both fans and creators as a Legacy Character to Zuko "without the angst" (as stated by the creators themselves) then thanks to a LOT of romantic drama taking away the attention from the main plot, where he basically came off as a insensitive jerk he quickly became so unpopular that it was even lampshaded and mocked in the DVD commentary
  • Live Action TV
    • Sesame Street. This can be considered of Elmo. Elmo skyrocketed to popularity after Kevin Clash took over the character, establishing the little red monster as the lovable and bright-eyed laugher with the unforgettable falsceto voice. Elmo continued to grow in popularity in The Nineties, especially when Tickle-Me Elmo hit the toy stores and became the top-selling toy in 1996. By 1998, Elmo had his own recurring segment on Sesame Street, entitled, Elmo's World, which lasted till 2012, when it was replaced with Elmo: The Musical. At the same time, however, as Elmo became more and more of the driving force of Sesame Street, some fans (particularly old-school fans) grew to find Elmo's over exposure to be overkill, and Elmo himself to be more annoying than lovable; it also doesn't help that most of Sesame's merchandising is pretty much relegated to Elmo products (not to mention, there's an unwritten rule that Elmo has to be featured on the covers of DV Ds - even if he isn't featured in the content much - otherwise they won't sell).
  • April 9, 2014
    Chabal2
    • The Ultramarines in Warhammer 40 K fanon are generally seen as overused and get far too much attention compared to other chapters (doesn't help that the lead writer is one of their biggest fanboys to the point of Character Shilling). However, newer players tend to like them, due to being the most popular army for newbies to play.
      • The Grey Knights were also popular due to being daemon-slaying space marines with psychic powers. Once they got their own codex, they were hideously overpowered, had hilariously Narmy models, and the fluff turned them into daemon-using butchers led by a God Mode Sue. Said codex was written by the Ultramarines writer.

  • April 9, 2014
    FlyingDuckManGenesis
  • Hey wait a minute, I just happened to think, I believe we already have a YKTTW like this somewhere...
  • April 9, 2014
    StrixObscuro
    Comics
  • Never mind. I found the YKTTW I was thinking of, but it's not this, it's when the Scrappy is turned into the villain. My bad.
  • April 9, 2014
    DAN004
  • April 9, 2014
    Waterlily
    I've noticed this happening but it looks like a recipe for complaining. That said, I've heard that Michelle was quite popular in the early years of Full House. Then she got more screentime and became really bratty causing many fans to hate her.

    I don't think I'd call her a scrappy but Joey from Dawsons Creek went from being an Ensemble Darkhorse to being disliked by a lot of fans. I think part of the reason (besides getting more screentime) is that she started off as a tomboy who the guys didn't really notice. This endeared the fans to her and they longed to see her be appreciated more. Then guys started falling for her constantly which annoyed the viewers. I don't know if it really counts but I thought I'd mention it anyway.
  • This will most definitely have to be YMMV.
  • April 9, 2014
    azul120
    • Kaname Ohgi from Code Geass was an Ensemble Darkhorse early on for being a somewhat sensible everyman and Voice Of Reason, his inner monologue of support for Zero gaining him points. Things started to go south when he fell for an amnesiac Villetta, who had been trying to capture Zero for Britannia. Things soon went south once the latter regained her memories, as she shot him during the Black Rebellion due to a moment of unguardedness on his part caused by his blind love. Come the middle of the following season, he went AWOL to meet her knowing full well she wanted to kill him. The worst of it came when, and in an onset of stunning gullibility, self-righteousness and hypocrisy, agreed with Villetta and Schneizel in their case against Lelouch and struck a deal known only amongst most of the other Black Knights to sell out their leader in return for Japan, effectively derailing the rebellion against Britannia. As if that weren't enough to turn him into a full fledged Scrappy, the next several episodes, which included Lelouch to consequently resort to even more extreme measures in what now included an excuse to have himself killed, with Ohgi happily married at the end and elected Japanese Prime Minister in spite of his short-sighted incompetence that led to the aforementioned, oft-maligned turn of events, certainly did the trick.
  • April 9, 2014
    Synchronicity
    I don't think we need another YMMV trope, let alone one that combines two.
  • April 10, 2014
    Arivne
    Namespaced and italicized work names.
  • April 10, 2014
    azul120
    ^^ Scrappy related tropes have been a thing. We've yet to see a "former darkhorse" variant.
  • April 10, 2014
    justanotherrandomlurker
    Unfortunately, the nature of this YKTTW is subjective, and there's undoubtly going to be varying opinions, so that pretty much sets this up for being YMMV.
  • April 10, 2014
    DAN004
    And there's nothing really bad about YMM Vs... right?
  • April 10, 2014
    justanotherrandomlurker
    Except for when different tropers get into disputes on the YMMV pages. Seinfeld 's YMMV page seems to always be the subject of dispute, especially when it comes to the Seasonal Rot entry, that seems to be edited with different opinions on a monthly basis. That's really the only drawback to YMMVs I can think of. Other than that...
  • April 11, 2014
    RoseBride
    I don't see what's wrong with it. We have Rescued From The Scrappy Heap, why not the inverse?

    Video Games

    Western Animation
    • Catbug, the Ridiculously Cute Critter Team Pet in Bravest Warriors, was the most popular character in Season 1 despite only having two scenes due to how simply adorable he was. Then the creators caught on and gave him more time in the spotlight, giving him dimensional-hopping superpowers which set off the plot for Season 2. This was also well-recieved. Then Season 2 itself came around, and he was thrown into being the star for several episodes in a row, finally crossing the Moral Event Horizon when his "animal instincts" led him to behead Jelly Kid. Now he's, at best, a severe Base Breaker.
  • April 11, 2014
    needsanewhobby
    ^^ That's why YMMV is its own section. When you click on the YMMV tab you should realise that you are reading opinions, not facts.
  • April 11, 2014
    RyRodrigo
    Anime & Manga
    • One Piece: Usopp received plenty of flak from the fanbase when he left the crew and dueled Luffy over his decision to abandon the Going Merry, but then was Rescued From The Scrappy Heap afterwards when he apologized for his actions.
  • April 11, 2014
    KJMackley
    It's not that this trope doesn't have some validity, but the issue is few characters start out as The Scrappy to begin with, it's after some time that they do something that makes fans dislike them. In practice this will turn into Dethroning Moment Of Suck, only worded differently and allowed on YMMV pages. That's a problem.
  • April 11, 2014
    marcoasalazarm
    It's YMMV for such a reason.
  • April 11, 2014
    DRCEQ
    I'm not sure what anyone thinks of the current name, but for the sake of preventing a snowclone, I think Darkhorse Turned Scrappy would be a good name for this trope.

    ^^^ That Greninja Pokemon example doesn't really count. His inclusion into Smash Brothers 4 is only being negatively reacted by pokemon fans who also happen to be Smash Bros fans. His inclusion into the game hasn't changed his popularity in Pokemon X And Y at all. In fact, it only enhanced it further. On the other hand, you can't just rewrite the example to focus around Smash Bros, because it's still far too early to decide that he'll prove to be a mechanically popular character in the game itself, who will somehow gain the spotlight, then the hatedom.
  • April 11, 2014
    DAN004
    That One Piece example also doesn't count. Pretty sure Usopp started as a main character.
  • April 11, 2014
    marcoasalazarm
    Was he/is he a liked character?
  • April 11, 2014
    azul120
    ^^^ How about Darkhorse Scrappy Turn then.

    • Cheese from Fosters Home For Imaginary Friends. In his first couple of appearances, he was quite popular for his unbridled kookiness. Before long though, Cartoon Network began shilling him in promo after promo, and in-series he became a major millstone to everyone around him, turning off many viewers.
  • April 11, 2014
    BaffleBlend
    ^^^^Tell that to Miiverse. Poor frog's a pariah there now, even in the Pokémon community.
  • April 11, 2014
    DAN004
  • April 12, 2014
    DRCEQ
    ^^ But that doesn't mean he's suddenly going to be used less and less and fall off the top 15 competitive pokemon used across the world. More importantly, the game hasn't even been released yet, so for this trope to apply, first we'll have to see that he proves to be insanely popular, then will eventually become hated.
  • April 24, 2014
    RyRodrigo
    I suggest that if this ever becomes a YMMV page, we won't use Greninja as an example. Judging from the comments here, he's more Base Breaker, if anything, since Greninja is a starter of choice for many Pokemon X players (including myself.)
  • April 27, 2014
    DAN004
    ^ the fact that he's both a breakout and a scrappy means that he counts both here and in Base Breaker.
  • April 27, 2014
    DAN004
    Is the OP even there??
  • May 19, 2014
    RyRodrigo
    Yeah, I'm here
  • May 19, 2014
    Theokal3
  • May 19, 2014
    DAN004
  • May 20, 2014
    Koolkev
  • May 20, 2014
    TBTabby
    Bun-Bun, the literal Killer Rabbit from Sluggy Freelance, was funny at first, but his status as both a God Mode Sue and Karma Houdini eventually led to many readers growing tired of the character. This was only exacerbated by the Oceans Unmoving storyline, which replaced every character except Bun-Bun and went on for a very long time.
  • May 26, 2014
    RyRodrigo
    Breakout to Scrappy sounds better.
  • May 26, 2014
    BaffleBlend
    Is nobody going to update this?!
  • May 26, 2014
    RyRodrigo
    I just did.
  • It has five hats, it might as well be launched now.
  • May 26, 2014
    RyRodrigo
    Launching now. Let's rock and roll. *shades*

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