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Dueling Incarnations
Two competing versions of a band (or other media property) exist simultaneously, each claiming legitimacy.
(permanent link) added: 2013-03-26 14:46:49 sponsor: IStillDream (last reply: 2013-04-18 05:45:03)

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While fans of bands know that sometimes band members leave and are replaced--sometimes even resulting in The Band Minus the Face--things get more complicated when former members decide to form their own versions of the group. This essentially results in two bands with the same (or very similar) name, each touring (and playing the same back catalog) and recording.

These happenings can be broken into two basic types.

Type 1: A former band member starts their own version of a still-extant band. Often this happens when the Face of the Band is the member that left.

  • Queensryche (2012-Present), with original vocalist Geoff Tate starting his own competing lineup (also featuring ex-Queensryche guitarist Kelly Gray) after being fired.
  • Great White (2011-Present), with original vocalist Jack Russell forming "Jack Russell's Great White" after initially leaving due to a medical issue.
  • L.A. Guns (2006-2012), with original guitarist Tracii Guns starting his own version (also including [at various times] former members Paul Black, Nickey Alexander, and Martey Casey) after leaving the original band in 2002. Resolved when his version folded.
  • Former Styx lead vocalist Dennis De Young has been playing with a group billed as "The Music of Styx" since 2010.

Version 2: When different former members (or groups of former members) of a broken-up band stage competing reunions.
  • Black Flag (2012-Present). Former members Greg Ginn and Ron Reyes are playing as a reunited Black Flag, while former members Keith Morris, Chuck Dukowski, Bill Stevenson are playing as Flag.
  • Over the years, at least seven different, unrelated incarnations of The Platters have toured, usually featuring just one former member. Currently, there are four: "The Buck Ram Platters", Herb Reed and His Platters, Monroe Powell and The Platters, and Sonny Turner and The Platters.
  • Since disbanding in 1982, there have been no less than 3 different versions of Sweet. Former guitarist Brian Connolly formed The New Sweet in 1984, while Andy Scott and Mick Tucker would begin playing as Sweet in 1985. After Tucker's departure from the latter, the two factions agreed to a renaming to reduce confusion, becoming Brian Connolly's Sweet and Andy Scott's Sweet respectively. Connolly died in 1997, and Scott's version would be the only one until 2008, when Steve Priest founded Steve Priest's Sweet.

In terms of non-musical applications, the only similar example I can think of is what happened to the Bond franchise with the release of Never Say Never Again, though I'm not sure if it's worth broadening the trope definition just to capture that.
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