NonstandardSkillLearning Nonstandard Skill Learning YKTTW Discussion
|Nonstandard Skill Learning|
A skill in video game that is obtained through non-standard means
In video games, skills are usually learned through a standard mean. Be it by leveling up, or by collecting job points, or even by buying scrolls and books that teach the skills. No matter which method the game used, the majority of the skills are obtained by this method. Enter this trope. There are certain skills that cannot be learned through the usual method. They need to be obtained through other means, like advancing the storyline, building up friendship with your party members, completing that old granny's request to buy her groceries, or defeating the super-duper strong hidden monster whose existence may or may not be hinted at. The point is, don't expect to learn this skill just by the standard procedure. For a completionist, this might be the Last Lousy Point. May be related to Everyone Has A Special Move, if these moves must be unlocked by the story. Check on launch: Skill Scores and Perks, Analysis.Skill Scores And Perks.
- The Kingdom Hearts series spreads learning abilities across various methods (level up, progress the plot, defeat a boss, or complete some other challenge), but that comes across as not having one "standard" method in the first place. Though stat boosts come primarily through level-ups, so that might create an expectation that most character growth is from experience points.
- Final Fantasy, very often used together with Guide Dang It.
- The Blue Mage class is basically this as a whole class. While the rest of the classes usually learn their skills by leveling up, Blue Mages don't. There are certain monster skills that the Blue Mages can learn. To learn these skills, the Blue Mage needs to be hit by the skill and survive (some games do it differently, like eating the monster). The problem is, the game won't bother telling which skills can be learned and which one can't or which monsters carry which skill.
- Summon Magic in general is this trope. They are often learned through defeating the summoned monsters in battle, but there are many other means.
- Also Limit Break. Each character usually have their own methods of obtaining their ultimate attacks.
- Final Fantasy IV
- Because of a trauma, Rydia cannot use the spell Fire, until Rosa convinces her later in a storyline event. Hilariously enough, she can still learn Fira and Firaga given you do enough Level Grinding.
- Several of Rydia's summons can only be obtained from getting an item that Randomly Drops from certain types of enemies. Pray that the Random Number God is in a good mood.
- Final Fantasy VII averts this at the start, granting characters new Limit Breaks through repeated combat, but to teach a given character their level 4 Limit Break, you'll need a special item. There's also the Enemy Skill materia; see Blue Mages.
- The Limit Breaks in Final Fantasy VIII are like this. Squall's Limit Break availability is based on his equipped weapon. Zell reads magazines to learn finishing moves. Quistis uses certain items to learn skills. Rinoa takes her dog for a walk, and learns a new skill during the plot. Irvine can use different bullets based on what's in inventory. Selphie (technically) has all of her best Limit Break Magic available from the word go, but once you use the special ones once the show up more frequently in future.
- The Overdrives in Final Fantasy X have this feel, due to the diverse nature of the party. Tidus and Lulu gain new Overdrives by using previous ones repeatedly and levelling up, respectively. Yuna only has one skill that she starts with, but gets new Aeons to summon with it during the plot. Rikku's overdrives are based on the party's inventory. Auron levels up by collecting movie spheres, Kimahri learns Overdrives from enemies, and Wakka plays Blitzball. One of the most Egregious example of Guide Dang It would be Valefor's Energy Ray attack. How do you obtain it? By talking to a friggin' dog in the very first village
- In Final Fantasy XIII, most skills (including basic Attack) are represented by nodes on the Crystarium. The exception is the characters' Eidolons, which are obtained during the storyline and stored in the inventory.
- Ramza's skillset gets larger over the course of Final Fantasy Tactics. There's also the Ultima spell (learnable only by Ramza and Alma, and only during two storyline fights) and the Zodiac summon (learnable only by summoners, during one optional fight), which are taught by being hit with (and surviving) the skill in combat, as opposed to most skill which are purchased with JP.
- Atelier series.
- Several examples in the first Atelier Iris game.
- At one point in the story, Klein will get the option to either learn the skill Living Item or the ability to create Ether Bulb. You can get the other one later, though.
- Norn's Illusion skill is gotten through solving the puzzle in Ka Luda's playground the second time, using the black pieces instead of white.
- Delsus' Spirit Shot skill, gotten from completing an optional sidequest from the old man at Lake Forwell near the end of the game.
- Lita's Pale Wing skill, gotten after a certain storyline event near the end of the game.
- In Atelier Iris 2, Gray and Fee learn Dragon Slayer and Ein Zecksclaw respectively during the main story.
- In Mana-Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy, Lily is the only one whose upgraded skills, instead of learned through the Grow Book, are obtained through certain cutscenes after creating certain items.
- All of Gino's skills in Atelier Totori are obtained through doing his character events.
- Several examples in the first Atelier Iris game.
- In Persona4, several of Rise's skills are obtained through Social Link instead of leveling up.
- In Persona 4 Golden, every party member gets a unique skill that is obtained through talking to them on a certain date after maxing their Social Links.
- All the party members have social link skills. Golden also adds "Bike Ride" skills, which allow the party members to learn new skills late in the game by going on a trip to a spa with the protagonist.
- In Digital Devil Saga, if you answer certain dialogue choices throughout the two games, Argilla, Gale and Seraph will automatically obtain the skills Seraph Lore, Pyrriphlegethon, and Reincarnate respectively when you reach the final dungeon.
- Some of Ryuudo's most advanced special moves in Grandia II can only be learned after defeating his brother Melfis. Millenia, meanwhile, gains new special attacks from every piece of Valmar the party defeats.
- In Chrono Cross very many of the ultimate or signature attacks are only obtained through doing a sidequest, some of which can be impossible to get if you don't make the right decisions during gameplay. In fact, getting the special ability for one character, Razzly the fairy, requires that you choose the worst option out of a quest in the previous disc and results in many innocent deaths (it's the tragedy that ends up empowering her).
- In EarthBound, spells are acquired by leveling up, except for the two tiers of Teleport for Ness. The first Teleport must be learned from a talking monkey, and the second one is automatically acquired after completing the Magicant level.
- Smeargle, from Pokémon, who is the only Pokemon who can permanently learn attacks via Sketch. Everyone else has to level up to learn new moves or use a TM, HM or move tutor.
- In Tales of Symphonia you can learn skills by getting further in the story, or using another skill a certain number of times.
- In Clive Barker's Undying, all spells are acquired by taking a magic scroll, except for the Lightning spell. For that one, you must take a lightning rod and put it in a orifice on a roof. A lightning will strike the rod and you will receive the electricity, which will give you the spell.
- ADOM is unique in regards to this trope. You only improve your existing skills by levelling up and the usual way to learn new ones is from NP Cs and wishes. However, mindcrafters and elementalists learn new Mindcrafting powers and new spells, respectively, upon level up.
- In Disgaea, starting from the second game there is always one party member whose ultimate skill is obtained through story instead of leveling up. In Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories we have Yukimaru's Midare Fubuki. In Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice we have Main Character Mao's Vasa Aergun. Finally Fuuka's Prinny Kaiser XX in Disgaea 4: A Promise Unforgotten.
- Squad members' unique Loyalty Powers in Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3 can be learned by Shepard, too, but only after completing their personal missions (and only one at a time).
- In Dragon Age: Origins, each party member has a hidden perk tree of "Inspired" abilities, which are automatically unlocked at 25, 50, 75, and 100 Disposition and gave increasing bonuses to their primary character stats. If their Disposition to the Warden dropped, however, the perks were revoked. Wynne additionally had an active power Vessel of the Spirit, which was unlocked by certain story events.
- In Dragon Age II, reaching either end of the Friendship/Rivalry scale of a party member made it lock there permanently and unlocked that character's unique permanent bonus.
- In Knights of the Old Republic II, you normally learn skills by investing skill/feat points into them. However, you can only learn advanced lightsaber combat forms by receiving instruction from or fighting the Jedi Masters you find throughout the game.
- Obsidian did something similar to the Dragon Age: Origins example two years earlier in Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer, where increasing your Relationship Values with party members unlocked bonus feats (mainly skill and ability boosts applied to both you and the party member). Meanwhile the Storm of Zehir expansion has a list of Teamwork Feats which require two steps to unlock: meet requirements outlined in the game manual, then accept and complete a corresponding sidequest from the Adventurers' Guild at Crossroad Keep. All three games also give history feats for completing story requirements, and in SoZ some of them grant bonuses.