Created By: fluffything on July 15, 2011 Last Edited By: Arivne on July 1, 2014

Invincible Character VS Crazy Prepared

The only guy who can defeat the all powerful is one who always has a plan

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So, you have this super-powered guy. He's fast, strong, impervious to nearly all weaponry. His only weakness is a rare metal found only in the mountains of Tibet. Yes, there is no one who can defeat him...

....Except for that guy. That one guy who always has a plan. That guy who looks at all options and uses them as back up. The guy who always comes prepared.

In other words, the Invincible Hero VS the Crazy-Prepared. This is when a character who is known for his strength and near invulnerability is put against a character who prefers brains over brawn and always has a back-up in case his first idea doesn't go as planned. These are often the result of a villain pitting the two against one another through deceit, and ends with the duo putting aside their differences and joining forces against said villain.

It's also a common form of ahem discussion among fandoms of "Who would win in a fight?" between two popular characters.


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  • One of the most (in)famous examples is that of Superman VS Batman. On the one hand, you got a superpowered alien being who can fly, shoot lasers from his eyes, has super strength, and whose main weakness is a rare green rock. On the other hand, you got an intelligent detective who has formidable combat skills, went toe-to-toe with plenty of superpowered monsters and won using cunning, and has a ton of gadgets at his disposal.
    • This has even been discussed in-universe in several different cases.

Community Feedback Replies: 20
  • July 15, 2011
    wanderlustwarrior
    Change Invincible Hero to Invincible Character, though I'm pretty sure we've already got a Brains Vs Brawn trope.
  • July 15, 2011
    burnpsy
    Negi VS Jack Rakan in Mahou Sensei Negima is this. Negi being the Crazy Prepared one.
  • July 15, 2011
    elwoz
    Didn't Superman give Batman a chunk of green krypto at some point (probably during the Silver Age), for Batman to use in case Superman ever did a Face Heel Turn? Thus promoting it from a fan hypothetical to an in-canon hypothetical.
  • July 16, 2011
    Koveras
    ^ Batman does carry a chunk of Kryptonite in DCAU, though he took it off The Joker a shortly before he met Superman.
  • March 26, 2012
    RazorSmile
    Doesn't this apply to Superman and Lex Luthor as well? Or is that a different trope?
  • March 26, 2012
    Rytex
    I suppose, in the climax of {{Fullmetal Alchemist]}, one can consider Hohenheim vs. Father. Hohenheim had a plan for when Father used the transmutation circle to become a god, and spent the better part of a century preparing for it, and when the time came, it robbed Father of his power, making him able to be beaten by Edward.
  • March 26, 2012
    randomsurfer
    In The Dark Knight Returns Batman has Green Arrow shoot Superman with a kryptonite arrow.
  • March 26, 2012
    JobanGrayskull
    • In Watchmen, Ozymandyas attempts the Crazy Prepared approach against the invincible/omniscient Dr. Manhattan. It seems like he fails at first, until Dr. Manhattan decides that the Batman Gambit is for the best.
  • March 26, 2012
    Mauri
    Darkwing Duck picking against some of his super powered villains. We can say he was the crazy prepared (only other individual to outprepare him could be Taurus Bulba but still the point stands).
  • March 26, 2012
    troacctid
    • In Test Of Metal, Tezzeret fills the "prepared" role against Nicol Bolas (perhaps the most powerful being in the multiverse).
  • June 13, 2014
    Mr.Movie
    I got my eye on this entry. It looks interesting.
  • June 13, 2014
    DAN004
    Compare Brains Evil Brawn Good.

    Not sureif tropeworthy, tho.
  • June 14, 2014
    Arivne
    • Examples section formatting
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  • June 29, 2014
    MercenX
    I think this should either be a supertrope to BEBG or that BEBG should be renamed and redefined so that dumb crazy-strong/invincible villains (like Solomon Grundy) versus methodically prepared heroes (i.e. Batman) are not merely an inversion to the BEBG.
  • June 30, 2014
    GuyIncog
    • The DCAU comic Superman Red Son casts Batman as an anti-communist resistance fighter, working to subvert Superman's control of the Soviet Union.

    Seems like Superman v. Batman might be common enough to warrant its own example subcategory. Also, could tie in to The Only One Allowed To Defeat You.
  • June 30, 2014
    DAN004
    More like, this trope was meant for those two that I think this is Too Rare To Trope.
  • June 30, 2014
    bitemytail
  • June 30, 2014
    DAN004
    ^ That's more general (trying to match 2 people to fight).
  • June 30, 2014
    acrobox
    I feel like this is just Brains And Brawn Up To Eleven in a fight. Someone who is extremely smart and well prepared vs someone who is powerful to the point of being near invincible. As opposed to someone who gets good grades vs someone on the varsity highschool team.

    Maybe expand it to just be Brains Vs Brawn. Or expand Brains And Brawn to allow for the two to fight instead of just being partners.
  • July 1, 2014
    DAN004
    ^ we have Brains Evil Brawn Good, but that's specific for assignments of morality and intelligence, not simply them being foils.

    Yes, this should be Brains Vs Brawn.

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