Created By: ChaoticDreams on October 16, 2011 Last Edited By: ChaoticDreams on October 25, 2011

Self Persecuting Illusion

Illusion, or dream showing loved ones blaming someone which would not happen in real life

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A flash black, image, or dream showing a group of people, the loved ones blaming one specific person, the hero, for his wrongdoings (saying its all his fault and the like) or for possibly not helping them when they needed help. And it might not even be true at all. This could be some illusion because in real life the hero's loved ones wouldn't act that way.

Examples:

Anime and Manga
  • Occurs in Part II of Naruto when he's under a genjutsu by a Itachi look a like. He sees Gaara's eye on his palm, Sakura's head out of his jacket, one half of Sasuke's face next to his face, and Kakashi on his shoulder. They all tell him how disappointed they are with him and how much he's let them down and wonder why he always gets to be happy while Gaara doesn't.
  • Crona, right after his/her Heel–Face Turn, naturally assumed that everyone blamed him/her for making the madness in Stein spread faster, even asking people why they didn't blame him/her for what he/she did. In fact, this illusion subjected Crona to a Heroic BSOD so deep, it almost caused her/him to go through a Heel–Face Revolving Door back into Medusa's control until Marie, during their tag-team fight with Medusa, had to verbally snap him/her out of his/her slump.
  • Happens to Roberta in Black Lagoon - she is haunted by one of her past victims, who keeps explaining to her just how mad she has become.

Comics
  • This has been used in the Spider-Man comics several times over the years, especially when either the villain Mysterio or the demon Mephisto are involved in some way. Old Spidey does have his share of guilt issues.

Live Action TV
  • At the end of the Criminal Minds episode "Normal", the unsub is in the car with his family, who is yelling at him and blaming him for his daughter's death, something he had been beating himself up over for the entire episode. While the family had been rather cold to him throughout the episode, this was uncharacteristically mean of them. It turns out it's just a hallucination. In fact, every time they're shown, it's a hallucination. They were all already dead.

Fan Fic
  • Chapter 6 of Dark Rage. Has Harry suffer a nightmare where Remus, Sirius, James and Lily blame him for their deaths - well, James and Lily seem to be blaming him more for Sirius and Remus's deaths than their own, and Remus isn't actually dead just wounded, potentially fatally, but the fact remains that there's no way those characters would behave like that in canon - and they had their chance to act like that in Deathly Hallows.
  • Occurs in chapter 18 of the Katekyo Hitman Reborn! fanfic "Intertwined Bonds".

Western Animation
  • In The Simpsons "Bart vs. Thanksgiving" Bart has an Imagine Spot about what will happen if he aplogizes to Lisa for ruining her centerpiece.
    Marge: Now we can blame him for everything!
    Homer: It's your fault I'm bald.
    Abe: It's your fault I'm old.
    Maggie: It's your fault I can't talk!
    Uncle Sam: It's your fault America has lost its way!
    Everyone: It's all your fault! It's all your fault! It's all your fault!
Community Feedback Replies: 16
  • October 17, 2011
    randomsurfer
    In The Simpsons "Bart vs. Thanksgiving" Bart has an Imagine Spot about what will happen if he aplogizes to Lisa for ruining her centerpiece.
    Marge: Now we can blame him for everything!
    Homer: It's your fault I'm bald.
    Abe: It's your fault I'm old.
    Maggie: It's your fault I can't talk!
    Uncle Sam: It's your fault America has lost its way!
    Everyone: It's all your fault! It's all your fault! It's all your fault!
  • October 17, 2011
    Psychobabble6
    • At the end of the Criminal Minds episode "Normal", the unsub is in the car with his family, who is yelling at him and blaming him for his daughter's death, something he had been beating himself up over for the entire episode. While the family had been rather cold to him throughout the episode, this was uncharacteristically mean of them. It turns out it's just a hallucination. In fact, every time they're shown, it's a hallucination. They were all already dead.
  • October 17, 2011
    WackyMeetsPractical
    Might need a better description. It confused me for a little bit. This is for an Imagine Spot or dream sequence in which a guilty feeling character feels like everyone's blaming him for something?
  • October 17, 2011
    TonyG
    • Parodied on Meet The Robinsons, where Bowler Hat Guy claims that everyone hated him for losing the baseball game by falling asleep on the field, when the flashback shows everyone being nice to him.
  • October 19, 2011
    troacctid
    • In Magic The Gathering's Kamigawa Cycle, Toshi is assaulted with dream visions of all the people he's wronged with his actions; after having this dream a couple times, he figures out that it's a Soratami illusionist's trick to manipulate him.
  • October 19, 2011
    AP
    • This has been done multiple times in Spider Man comics due to Spidey's guilt complex and his loved ones' knack for dying or turning evil. He was "haunted" by Gwen Stacy and her father after their deaths, for instance. His friend and sometime villain Harry Osborn would also see the ghost of his father Norman Osborn, prompting him to return to a life of crime.
  • October 20, 2011
    Mozgwsloiku
    • Happens in X-men to Mikhail Rasputin - he gets visions of his brothers in arms he accidentally killed while tampering with a dimensional anomaly.
    • Happens to Roberta in Black Lagoon - she is haunted by one of her past victims, who keps explaining to her just how mad she has become.
  • October 21, 2011
    Mozgwsloiku
    • Haguro from Wolf Guy Wolfen Crest suffers this during the last stages of his Sanity Slippage. The henchmen he had got killed appear before his eyes, still oozing blood from their mortal wounds. Being who he is, Haguro treats them with utter contempt.
  • October 23, 2011
    isk2837
    Do fanfic examples count? Because I've seen more Harry Potter fanfics than I can count where Harry has nightmares about being blamed by people (most frequently Sirius, Cedric and his parents) for their deaths.
  • October 23, 2011
    Gatchaman432
    • Crona, right after him Heel Face Turn, naturally assumed that everyone blamed him for making the madness in Stein spread faster, even asking people why they didn't blame him for what he did. In fact, this illusion subjected Crona to a Heroic BSOD so deep, it almost caused her to go through a Heel Face Revolving Door back into Medusa's control until Marie, during their tag-team fight with Medusa, had to verbally snap him out of his slump.
  • October 23, 2011
    Afrael
    @isk2837 HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality has the titular character imagine a situation where a schoolmate dies in their arms, cursing him for not being CrazyPrepared.
  • October 24, 2011
    troacctid
    ^^^ Fan Fic examples count, and they go in the Fan Fic folder. They have to be sourced, though--you can't just say "This happens all the time in Harry Potter fanfiction." Give examples from specific fics.
  • October 24, 2011
    isk2837
    ^Ok, here's an example - chapter 6 of Dark Rage. Has Harry suffer a nightmare where Remus, Sirius, James and Lily blame him for their deaths - well, James and Lily seem to be blaming him more for Sirius and Remus's deaths than their own, and Remus isn't actually dead just wounded, potentially fatally, but the fact remains that there's no way those characters would behave like that in canon - and they had their chance to act like that in Deathly Hallows.
  • October 24, 2011
    Grain
  • October 24, 2011
    LuxExterior
    • This has been used in the Spider-Man comics several times over the years, especially when either the villain Mysterio or the demon Mephisto are involved in some way. Old Spidey does have his share of guilt issues.
  • October 25, 2011
    bulmabriefs144
    Call it Self Persecuting Illusion. Illusion of Blame sounds like Illusion of Control, which is a delusion rather than illusion in the normal sense.
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