Created By: giggles on July 20, 2012 Last Edited By: giggles on March 14, 2013
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Enormous Engagement Ring

The stone in a woman's engagement ring is larger than average, and acknowledged in-universe

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A woman receives an engagement ring, and it's huge, so much so that she has a major reaction to it. It shows that her fiance either makes some major money or otherwise is a major criminal. She may love it (possibly showing it off to everyone); a more down-to-earth character may think it's just too much to accept. Even if the character can't accept something so extravagant, she may take one last look at how beautiful it is before giving it back.

If hijinks ensue, see With This Ring. Sometimes paired with a fancy Fairytale Wedding Dress should the wedding actually happen.

Compare to Treasure Is Bigger in Fiction, where gemstones in general are much larger than phony old reality, and the ring might be extremely big, but nobody in-universe thinks it's unusual.

As what constitutes a "huge" ring is subjective, this is an in-universe trope. A character must react either verbally or physically to the size of it.

Examples:

Advertising
  • Parodied by the Canadian commercial for Harvey's, a burger chain. A man calls over three friends and shows them what some girl had just given him. The friends then proceed to gush over the size of it, and how it symbolizes her feelings, just like women stereotypically do.

Comic Books
  • In the Maniak's story in Showcase #69 from DC Comics, Silver gets engaged to a billionaire and gets an engagement ring with a diamond about the size of her head.

Film
  • Audrey Hepburn's character in How to Steal a Million yells at the sight of the gigantic diamond ring Mr. Leland gives her when he proposes.
  • In The Palm Beach Story, Claudette Colbert's character is proposed to by one of the richest men in the world. It's so large, she tells him to put it away, or else the sight of it will convince her to go through with it (she is married already, anyway). She takes a final look at it before putting it away forever.
  • In Gone with the Wind, Scarlet asks for an large ring and Rhett gives her one with a diamond that even she describes as "obscenely huge."
  • The ring offered to Martha May Whovier by Mayor Augustus Maywho in the 2000 version of How the Grinch Stole Christmas! was very large (and also gaudy).
  • Christmas Made-for-TV movie A Boyfriend for Christmas:
    • One of Holly's friends gets engaged and her ring is very big and very beautiful. She pretends the ring is so heavy that she has to drag her hand. However, she and her fiancé argue and by the end of the movie, they're broken up.
    • Holly, the protagonist, receives a huge engagement ring from her ex-boyfriend and Romantic False Lead. He is a rather important figure in journalism. She acknowledges that the ring is gorgeous and considers accepting his offer, but he's ultimately refused.
  • In Titanic, Rose tells Jack that Cal is worse than her boyfriend and shows him the engagement ring from him. He tells her that if she had jumped off the boat, she would have gone straight to the bottom.

Live-Action TV
  • In Alice, Flo was once romanced by an oil sheik who gave her an engagement ring. The stone was so large the other waitresses thought it had to be fake. But then they did the "cut glass" test where Mel took the ring and scratched on the glass door to the diner. He tapped where he had just scratched with his knuckle in triumph. Then the circle he had just scratched fell out of the door.
  • Double Subverted in Hangin' with Mr. Cooper. One of the two girls accepts a proposal from a (supposedly) rich suitor. The other woman comments on its size ("I can see where the Titanic hit it!"), but Mr. Cooper calls it a cubic zirconium. She refuses to believe that it's a fake until the stone in the ring breaks in some accident. It ends with the suitor having a real diamond as well, but he was going to switch it due to resizing or resetting issues.
  • In Not Going Out, Lucy is taken aback by the massive and expensive diamonds her slightly dodgy nightclub-owning boyfriend has given her as a sort of engagement gift. Her cynical and jealous flatmate Lee suggests this is all a scam to get otherwise chargeable jewellry through Customs for free as Lucy and her man are off on a dream holiday.
  • Coronation Street: The hyper-jealous Eileen has seen her fireman boyfriend out with an attractive firewoman from his station. Suspecting he is cheating, Eileen and her dozy friend Julie embarrass themselves - and him - by breaking into the station. Angry and disgruntled, the boyfriend produces a large ornate engagement ring and says this is the reason he was out with his colleague. Her family own a jewellers' store and she was helping him choose a ring. She's the right person to find the best and most beautiful ring, and she also gets a discount on it for him, so it is larger and better than what he might have been able to afford in normal circumstances. Eileen is sick twice over on seeing the ring. One, because it is big and ornate, and visibly so; two, because her insane and irrational jealousy has made him contemplate breaking the whole thing off and taking it back to the shop for a refund.

Video Games
  • In Dragon Quest VIII, the party accompanies the prince of Argonia on a rite to slay an Argonian lizard and bring back its crystal "heart" to be made into an engagement ring - but the prince is disappointed to discover how small they are and insists the party get a big one (from a big Argonian lizard, of course) before returning home. Naturally, it is by far the largest such crystal anyone's seen.
  • In The Curse of Monkey Island such a ring is part of the central story, which revolves around the main protagonist Guybrush Threepwood's attempt to restore his fiancée after accidentally turning her into a gold statue by giving her a cursed diamond ring.

Western Animation
  • From the Futurama movie The Beast with a Billion Backs, Yivo proposes to the universe with one of these ultra-large rings.
  • "Blue Cat Blues" from Tom and Jerry: Tom and a rival tom-cat are trying to impress their love, a lovely white cat lady. The ring from Tom's rival was so big and bright that you had to put on welder's glasses to look at it.
  • In The Simpsons episode "Revenge is a Dish Best Served Three Times" story "Bartman Begins" Bart has a story parodying Batman Begins. Homer & Marge go down an alley on the way home from the Opera House. Marge comments that it's a bad part of town, so she'll turn her ring so that the large diamond is hidden, but that only reveals an even larger diamond on the opposite side of her ring.

Community Feedback Replies: 52
  • July 21, 2012
    Lumpenprole
    Real Life: the 33-caret Krupp Diamond ring Richard Burton gave Elizabeth Taylor.
  • July 22, 2012
    giggles
    I think this should be limited to in-universe acknowledgement of the ring's size, as the viewers' definition of "huge" is subjective. Would real life examples work here?
  • July 22, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    Usually paired with a really fancy Fairytale Wedding Dress should the wedding actually happen.
  • July 27, 2012
    SKJAM
    • It's been a long time, so I may be misremembering: Alice, the TV show set in a diner, once had Flo romanced by an oil sheik who gave her an engagement ring. The stone was so large the other waitresses thought it had to be fake. But then they did the "cut glass" test....
  • July 27, 2012
    randomsurfer
    ^Yeah, I remember that. Mel took the ring and scratched on the glass door to the diner. He tapped where he had just scratched with his knuckle in triumph. Then the circle he had just scratched fell out of the door.
  • August 10, 2012
    giggles
    bump
  • August 12, 2012
    Jir
    From the Futurama movie The beast with a Billion backs, Yivo proposes to the universe with one of these.
  • August 12, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    Any good pictures?
  • August 13, 2012
    dyson88
    There was a Tomand Jerry cartoon that had this. The ring was big and bright you had to put on welder's glasses to look at it.
  • August 13, 2012
    Kestrad
    Specifically mentioned in Gone With the Wind, where Scarlet asks for an large ring and Rhett gives her one with a diamond that even she describes as "obscenely huge."
  • August 16, 2012
    NightNymph
    • The ring offered to Martha May Whovier by Mayor Augustus Maywho in the 2000 version of How The Grinch Stole Christmas was very large (and also gaudy).
  • August 17, 2012
    foxley
    A really obscure comic book example. In the Maniak's story in Showcase #69 from DC Comics, Silver gets engaged to a billionaire and gets an engagement ring with a diamond about the size of her head.
  • August 17, 2012
    randomsurfer
    In The Simpsons episode "Revenge is a Dish Best Served Three Times" story "Bartman Begins" Bart has a story parodying Batman Begins. Homer & Marge go down an alley on the way home from the Opera House. Marge comments that it's a bad part of town, so she'll turn her ring so that the large diamond is hidden, but that only reveals an even larger diamond on the opposite side of her ring.
  • August 18, 2012
    Stratadrake
    • In Dragon Quest VIII, the party accompanies the prince of Argonia on a rite to slay an Argonian lizard and bring back its crystal "heart" to be made into an engagement ring - but the prince is disappointed to discover how small they are and insists the party get a big one (from a big Argonian lizard, of course) before returning home. Naturally, it is by far the largest such crystal anyone's seen.
  • August 19, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    This site has lots of Real Life pictures, and any one could do as the trope picture.
  • August 31, 2012
    giggles
    ^ I've put up a picture from the site for now, but I'd like to change it to a screen grab or still from some work, since the focus of the trope is on in-universe examples. A cartoon example might work well, say the Tom and Jerry example??
  • September 2, 2012
    peccantis
    "Larger than average" is called "enormous" these days huh?
  • September 2, 2012
    XFllo
    I like the trope. Does it have to be an engagement ring, though? I remember watching the Tom and Jerry cartoon, and I think it was only a gift when Tom and another tomcat were rivals for the lady cat's attentions, but it has been a long time since I saw it.

    There is a beautiful and really huge ceremonial ring for a Jewish wedding in an episode of The X-Files. The function in the story is obviously different from the one described - just a beautiful ring to celebrate a wedding and no need to impress the girl with your wealth and social standing.

  • September 2, 2012
    Stratadrake
    Current picture is bad; doesn't strike me as obviously oversized, and an in-universe example would be preferred anyway.
  • September 3, 2012
    XFllo
    I managed to upload two pictures that might be good for the trope image:

    The first one is from the episode "Kaddish" of The X-Files


    And the second one is from "Blue Cat Blues" of Tom and Jerry which was already discussed.


  • September 7, 2012
    Rognik
    • Parodied by the Canadian commercial for Harvey's, a burger chain. A man calls over three friends and shows them what some girl had just given him. The friends then proceed to gush over the size of it, and how it symbolizes her feelings, just like women stereotypically do.
    • In Hangin With Mr Cooper, one of the two girls (I forget the character's name; the one played by Holly Robinson Pete) accepts a proposal from a (supposedly) rich suitor. The other woman comments on its size ("I can see where the Titanic hit it!"), but Mr. Cooper calls it a cubic zirconium. Holly's character refuses to believe that it's a fake until the stone in the ring breaks in some accident. It ends with the suitor apparently having a real diamond, but was going to switch it in later due to resizing/resetting issues. I saw the episode so long ago, I forget a lot of the finer details, but I think it kernel of this trope is here.
  • September 11, 2012
    XFllo
    I've added my hat. I think it's ready to be published.

    Also, isn't there a supertrope for other types enormous jewellery? For example huge necklaces?

  • September 11, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ Not sure that happens enough with jewelry in general.
  • February 22, 2013
    StarSword
    Film:
  • February 22, 2013
    Earnest
    How about a picture from this Spiderman comic?


  • February 22, 2013
    Anbalsilfer
    In The Curse Of Monkey Island such a ring is part of the central story, which revolves around the main protagonist Guybrush Threepwood's attempt to restore his fiancee after accidentally turning her into a gold statue by giving her a cursed diamond ring.


  • February 22, 2013
    Oof
    I prefer the Curse of Monkey Island pic.

    I wonder, does the trope need to be limited to engagement rings? I can think of a few examples where an already-married woman comments on how big a ring her husband gave her is.
  • February 22, 2013
    Megaptera
    @Oof: please list them if you can find them. It feels like a different trope to me -- one is about a guy pampering his wife with expensive stuff, and the other is about a guy trying to convince a girl to become his wife by giving her expensive stuff.
  • February 22, 2013
    Oof
    Megaptera, you're right. The engagement ring informs the audience about the man (the bigger the ring, the more "alpha" the man), while the gift ring informs the audience about the woman (the bigger the ring, the more smart/wise/discerning the woman is for having picked that man all those years ago).

    If I gather enough examples I'll start the after-marriage ring as a separate trope.
  • February 23, 2013
    XFllo
    ^ & ^^ I had a similar idea. Man giving woman expensive jewellery is probably a super trope, or perhaps a sister trope. For example huge and extravagant necklaces, right?

    It's just that an engagement ring has a very clear story-telling purpose.

    I think the sponsor, troper giggles, lost her interest. (I hope giggles is a woman, it's hard to tell just from the nickname). I've checked her edit history which is not very extensive and her last edit is from January. In addition, she hasn't been contributing to the discussion, and it has been in YKTTW for far to long ad it's getting close to Just Launch It Already. Still I'm not sure whether this is considered to be Up For Grabs.

    Also, could anyone write and add examples from The Curse Of Monkey Island and Spiderman comics? The pictures make it clear they are examples :-) I really like the Monkey Island ring. And the Spiderman one is really good too, maybe even better because the text says engagement and it has the oh my reaction.

    The pictures are very good and illustrative. We might use them in a sub-page with Image Links Wiki once the trope is launched.
  • February 23, 2013
    Oof
    ^ "Drafts are automatically considered Up For Grabs after at least two months of inactivity by the OP (original poster)." Does this mean inactivity in YKTTW, or inactivity in general? I say we wait until March to grab it. It's just another week, anyway.

    So, to clarify, the categorisation of the tropes would go something like this:

    Opinions?
  • February 23, 2013
    XFllo
    ^ Ok, I agree, let's wait if OP appears.

    I really like your proposals. If you ykttw them, I'll try to contribute..

    Perhaps we could use also Ceremony Rings or Wedding Rings. It's often used and Played With when best men or ring bearers lose them or forget them.

    edit: There is of course With This Ring and Lost Wedding Ring.
  • February 23, 2013
    Oof
    ^ Sounds good.

    Couple Tokens is here.
  • February 25, 2013
    XFllo
    I think Wacky Marriage Proposal will be a sister trope.
  • March 7, 2013
    XFllo
    This needs hats. Or criticism why it isn't getting any.

    The name is OK and the trope has collected quite a few examples. It could go on the index Rule Of Romantic. We have some sister tropes. What is the problem? Should we somehow re-write the description? I like it well enough.
  • March 7, 2013
    XFllo
    I changed the trope image from Tom and Jerry to the one from Spiderman. I like it best, but don't consider it final - we can still discuss it.
  • March 7, 2013
    lexicon
    • In Titanic when Rose tells Jack that Cal is worse than her boyfriend and shows him the ring he tells her that if she would have jumped off the boat she would have gone straight to the bottom.
  • March 8, 2013
    XFllo
    Good, we have five hats, meaning this is ready to go. I think we should agree on the picture. Opinions?
  • March 9, 2013
    lexicon
    I think the spiderman picture works. The ring's big, has the shine coming from it, and they make it clear that it's an engagement ring that's thought to be large.
  • March 11, 2013
    DracMonster
    Compare Treasure Is Bigger In Fiction, where gemstones in general are much larger than phony old reality. (If the ring is huge, but nobody in-universe thinks its unusual, it would be that instead.)
  • March 11, 2013
    XFllo
    ^ Thanks, a cool trope to compare with. :-) I'll try to fit it in the description.
  • March 11, 2013
    AgProv
    Live-action TV:- two examples.

    In Not Going Out, Lucy is taken aback by the massive and expensive diamonds her slightly dodgy nightclub-owning boyfriend has given her as a sort of engagement gift. Her cynical and jealous flatmate Lee suggests this is all a scam to get otherwise chargeable jewellry through Customs for free - Lucy and man are off on a dream holiday.

    Meanwhile in Coronation Street, the hyperjealous Eileen has seen her fireman boyfriend out with an attractive firewoman from the same station. suspecting he is cheating, Eileen and her dozy friend Julie embarrass themselves - and him - by breaking into the station. Angry and disgruntled, the boyfriend produces a large ornate engagement ring and says this is the reason he was out with his colleague - her family own a jewellers' store and she was helping him choose a ring...

  • March 11, 2013
    XFllo
    ^ I added the first example as it seems to me to fit perfectly. The second needs one more sentence - was the stone perceived as larger than average?
  • March 11, 2013
    AgProv
    In the Coronation Street example, the sting in the plot is that the boyfriend has been keeping a secret from Eileen - the ring. His attractive workmate is from a family who run a jeweller's business, so she not only helps him choose the best possible ring, she gets a discount on it - so it is larger and better than what he might have been able to afford in normal circumstances. Eileen is sick twice over on seeing the ring. One, because it is big and ornate, and visibly so; two, because her insane and irrational jeralousy has made him contemplate breaking the whole thing off and taking it back to the shop for a refund. hoping this helps!
  • March 11, 2013
    XFllo
    ^ Well then, you now convinced me that this fits:-)
  • March 13, 2013
    DracMonster
    Would Engorgment Ring be clear or sound like its about a fat couple? Otherwise maybe Engorged Engagement Ring
  • March 13, 2013
    XFllo
    ^ I really like the current working title. Those you suggested do not sound transparent enough for me. Let's see what the others say.
  • March 13, 2013
    XFllo
  • March 13, 2013
    lexicon
    I see nothing wrong with the current title. It's clear. Engorged sounds like it grew or swelled. Is there really any reason to change it?
  • March 13, 2013
    MrRuano
    Superdickery also has this cover, where Superman shows up Batman's diamond ring with an oversized, self-made diamond.
  • March 13, 2013
    XFllo
    ^ Funny, that one! :-) Do they mean to get engaged to the lady? ;-) In all seriousness, the image is obviously very close to this trope, but I think it's probably another from Bejeweled Tropes.
  • March 14, 2013
    XFllo
    I see this ykttw was launched by the OP giggles.

    @ giggles: You could have at least written something here in the discussion that you were back. This was really classy.
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