Created By: Jordan on July 31, 2011 Last Edited By: Wackd on October 3, 2011
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Word Of Saint Paul

An explanation offered by someone involved in a work, but not being its primary creator

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Up for Grabs. I'm not sure I'm ready to do the launching job, but I'm doing a general cleanup and consolidation to prepare for launching. One question about examples, however: I have at least one example of an in-work Word of Saint Paul. The question is how do we handle that? I've just included it as-is right now, but it's reasonably common in Alternative History.

Once a work has been published to general acclaim, speculation runs rampant. What did X really mean? How could Y do that? How are we supposed to interpret Z? For some reason or another, the primary creator keeps quiet, so when someone else with at least some authorative status to the work says something, it can be easily accepted and incorporated into the common view.

Do note that Word of Saint Paul might contain mistakes or misunderstandings of the original creator. Thus, they can easily carry the germ for future debates.

The dividing lines between Word of God, Word of Saint Paul, and Word of Dante are somewhat fluid, but if it can be reasonably supposed that someone has had a role in creating the work, or a close personal relation to the primary creator, then it is probably Word of Saint Paul instead of Word of Dante.

In a film or TV series, typical sources of Word of Saint Paul are the primary actors, the cameraman, or the score writer. In literature, it can be the author's spouse, the editor, or the publisher.

Named for Saint Paul the Apostle, who through diligent missionary and organisation work very much changed Christianity from a minor Jewish sect into a budding world religion, while at the same time changing and adding lots of things to what Jesus said.

Examples:

Film
  • When interviewed about his role in Inception, Michael Caine asserted that any scene he was in was one guaranteed to be in the real world. This either explains the film or makes the Mind Screw even more confusing.
    • A costume designer stated that the last scene showing Cobb's children in fact used different children from an earlier scene and they were wearing slightly different shirts, which suggests that the final scene isn't a dream.
  • In commentary on Scott Pilgrim Versus The World, Aubrey Plaza, who plays Julie, asserted that her character had (and possibly has) an unrequited crush on Scott, which is why she's so hostile to him. While Bryan Lee O'Malley, the creator of the original Scott Pilgrim comics, responded that Plaza was "making shit up", Edgar Wright, the director of the film adaptation, supported this view.
  • The last Harry Potter film suggests a romance (or at least a one-sided crush by Neville) between Neville Longbottom and Luna Lovegood, which is a widely fanon supported couple, but not one that happens in canon. Mathew Lewis, who plays Neville, asserted the two had a brief fling, but ended up marrying their canonical partners.
  • Haruo Nakajima (The original actor who played Godzilla) believes that the Showa (1955-1975) incarnation of Godzilla is female. However, according to Toho Studios, all incarnations of Godzilla to date have been male (Yes, even the remake version).
  • Johnny Depp has said that Jack Sparrow has syphilis.

Literature
  • In Heirs Of Alexandria, Christianity gained another early high-powered missionary and organiser in Hypatia, and thus split into two groups, based on different Word of Saint Paul's: the Pauline branch and the Petrine branch.
  • Virginia Heinlein shaped a lot of how Robert A. Heinlein was viewed by regulating which of his book were published, and how, according to Frederik Pohl.
  • August Derleth shaped much of the popular understanding of the Lovecraft Mythos, and codified a lot of it.
  • To a similar degree, that is true of Lin Carter with the work of Robert E. Howard.

Live-Action TV

Western Animation
  • Long before Candace and Jeremy were an established couple in Phineas and Ferb, Jeremy's voice actor commented that Jeremy liked Candace back. Of course, it really wasn't all that hard to figure out, but still.

Real Life
  • Saint Paul is the trope namer, and there's a lot of debate about whether his opinions, particular those about women, reflect those of Jesus.
  • The most famous real-world example (apart from S:t Paul) is probably Friedrich Engels. He worked closely with Marx, and did a lot to popularise and explain Marx's theories. However, he didn't have Marx's philosophical schooling, and thus misunderstood several elements, and made those misunderstandings stick around. To his credit, there was probably noone else around who could do even remotely as good a job.

Community Feedback Replies: 105
  • July 31, 2011
    fluffything
  • July 31, 2011
    Stratadrake
  • July 31, 2011
    Xtifr
    I think Word Of Dante already covers this quite well. "Everyone assumes it is true because an independent authority, scholar of the work, or Big Name Fan has said it." The only possible difference here is that the quoted authority is only semi-independent. I think that's slicing too thin; Tropes Are Flexible.
  • August 1, 2011
    MrInitialMan
    *Offers potato chips.* No such thing as slicing too thin. :)
  • August 1, 2011
    Xtifr
    ^ Bleah! What a horrid thing to do to an innocent and tasty potato! :p

    In any case, potato chips aren't particularly flexible, unlike tropes. :)
  • August 1, 2011
    fluffything
    Soggy potato chips are. Then again, who wants soggy potato chips?
  • August 1, 2011
    Jordan
    While I admit that Word Of Dante is broader than I thought it was, I think this could be considered as different. Except for St. Paul, I don't think any of my examples are instances where the fandom considers them canon. They're more like cases of an actor having personal canon in terms of how they interpret the role, which may or may not echo the interpretations of the director/original author.

    Now back to talking about potato chips.
  • August 1, 2011
    fluffything
    I could see it being seperated from Word Of Dante.
  • August 1, 2011
    robybang
    • Again on Inception, a costume designer stated that the last scene showing Cobb's children in fact used different children from an earlier scene and they were wearing slightly different shirts, which suggests that the final scene isn't a dream.
  • August 1, 2011
    Aminatep
    Yeah, that's worth splitting. Insider information as opposed to just making assumptions and having some credibility is really distinctive here.
  • August 1, 2011
    kjnoren
    The most famous real-world example (apart from S:t Paul) is probably Friedrich Engels. He worked closely with Marx, and did a lot to popularise and explain Marx's theories. However, he didn't have Marx's philosophical schooling, and thus misunderstood several elements, and made those misunderstandings stick around for a long time.
  • August 1, 2011
    fluffything
    The name should probably be changed, though. Not everyone is going to know who "Paul" is or which "Paul" people are talking about. After all, people could think it's referring to the word of Paul Bunyan or Paul the alien.

    How about Word Of Actor instead?
  • August 1, 2011
    undefined
    Word Of Angel perhaps?
  • August 1, 2011
    Chabada
    I for my part really love the trope's name. I find it to be quite revealing, plus Paul and God kind of sound alike, which makes it a lovely kind of pun.
  • August 1, 2011
    fluffything
    No, no they don't.

    Paul. God. Try saying them both out loud. They don't sound that much alike at all. Paul sounds closer to "Call" and God sounds closer to "Odd".

    And, again, the name is too generic to use. T Here's a lot of Pauls out there in fiction and in real life. It's not the sameas Word Of Indana Jones or Word Of Batman or Word Of Steven Spielberg in which it's a specific well-known person with a distinctive name.
  • August 1, 2011
    robybang
    How about "Word of Disciple"? The relation between God to a disciple is like that of a director to a cast member. It also follows the whole "Word of (religious figure)" trend while still clearly indicating what it's about.
  • August 1, 2011
    LOAD
    Johnny Depp has said that Jack Sparrow has syphilis. Barbossa's first name started as this then bacame a {Sure Why Not}.

  • August 1, 2011
    Stratadrake
    Word Of Angel ... hmm, Word Of Gabriel? I almost want to suggest Word Of Jesus (barring that little technicality of to what extent Jesus/God are considered the same and/or different individuals)....
  • August 1, 2011
    fluffything
    Word Of Angel sounds good to me.
  • August 2, 2011
    Koveras
    Just to set a few things straight: St. Paul never met Jesus in person (if you don't count the post-ascension visions), so he has never been directly involved in Jesus' original teachings.
  • August 2, 2011
    Aminatep
    On the other hand, Paul had access to first hand info.
  • August 2, 2011
    Stratadrake
    Strictly speaking, no. Jesus had the insider info from God, his disciples had some insider info from him. Paul is another step removed since he wasn't one of the disciples originally (though he did become quite prominent after his Heel Faith Turn).

    Word Of Apostle?
  • August 2, 2011
    Hadashi
    "Everyone assumes it is true because an independent authority, scholar of the work, or Big Name Fan has said it."

    That doesn't cover:

    "this isn't quite Word Of God but has some weight because the person saying it was involved in the creation of a work- although note, "God" may be silent on the issue or even contradictory. "

  • August 2, 2011
    kjnoren
    I'm liking Word Of Paul more and more. First, because Paul was perhaps the most important and formative figure in shaping what would become the Christian church. Second, because it fits the perceived trope perfectly. Third, it's not like there is a lack of obscure trope titles. If "Paul" is deemed to general, Word Of Paul The Apostle might be used, but IMO you can't do this trope without Paul playing a major part.

    Some more notable examples: August Derleth's interpretation and re-working of Lovecraft's stories and mythology. Lin Carter's ditto with Robert E Howard's stories.

    A proper intro is also very much needed. Perhaps:

    Sometimes a well-known work or institution is only partially shaped by its founder or original creator. In those cases, one or a few followers will tend to have a very large impact in shaping the perception of the work, and perhaps introducing new thoughts into it that becomes viewed as fundamental parts of the work.

    Named for Paul the Apostle, who played a major role in turning Christianity from a minor Jewish sect into an expansive, evangelistic, and major religion and church.
  • August 2, 2011
    Stratadrake
    Unlike Jesus, "Paul" doesn't pass the One Mario Limit. That's a pretty hard strike against him being declared a Trope Namer.
  • August 2, 2011
    Hadashi
    We all know who it means though.

    Word of Peter might be more aplicable if Paul doesn't work out....but it isn't quite as snappy or easy to recognise.
  • August 2, 2011
    fluffything
    Peter is too common of a name as is Paul.

    Peter could just as easily apply to Peter Parker or Peter Griffin or whatnot as well as St. Peter.

    I say we avoid using names and just call it Word Of Angel or Word Of Gospel or Word Of Apostle. Something that doesn't focus on a specific name.
  • August 2, 2011
    KamenZero
    and if someone doesn't want to go the religious aspect, there's also Word Of Worker or something. *shrug* Word of Apostle would probably work best of the first three, because it implies better than "Gospel" or "Angel" that it's from someone who works closely with the "big guy" for lack of a better term.
  • August 2, 2011
    FallenLegend
    Word of Jesus is an awful name considering he claimed bieng GOD (hence the whole christianism)

    I vote for word of Angel
  • August 2, 2011
    X2X
    Word Of Apostle works well (the first thing one usually thinks of with "apostle" is the Twelve Apostles of Jesus), but Word Of Paul could fit as a redirect.
  • August 2, 2011
    Stratadrake
    @Fallen: Sounds like you missed the Alt Text buried where I suggested it.
  • August 2, 2011
    FallenLegend
    @stratadake .. Oh sorry about that, my mistake.
  • August 2, 2011
    Xtifr
  • August 2, 2011
    Jordan
    I mostly chose Word Of Paul so I could make a joke about the Beatles, so I'm open to a different title.
  • August 3, 2011
    punchclockhero
    "Word of Jesus is an awful name considering he claimed bieng GOD"

    Isn't the trope about people who helped create the work trying to explain things from their own perspective? They are attempting to fill God--the creator's--shoes, in a way. I think it's apt.
  • August 3, 2011
    Stratadrake
    Jesus is also known as the son of God, and he also stated there are some select things (the Second Coming among them) that only God the Father knows and even he isn't privy to. But yeah, the distinction might be a trouble spot for some people.
  • August 3, 2011
    cityofmist
    If you're worried about mixing up Pauls, Word Of St Paul?
  • August 3, 2011
    LancelotG
    I really like "Word of Paul".

    • Long before Candace and Jeremy were an established couple in Phineas And Ferb, Jeremy's voice actor commented that Jeremy liked Candace back. Of course, it really wasn't all that hard to figure out, but still.
  • August 4, 2011
    Stratadrake
    Now "St Paul" is another story entirely. He did write more than half of the canon New Testament...
  • August 4, 2011
    Xtifr
    Another vote for Word Of St Paul. That at least gives a hint of what the trope is about.
  • August 4, 2011
    jbrecken
    As long as people don't confuse it with "Word of Minneapolis"
  • August 4, 2011
    AmyJade
    I think Word Of Actor gets the point across more clearly.
  • August 4, 2011
    cityofmist
    Which would go nicely with the Word Of God and Word Of Dante theme.
  • August 4, 2011
    EzzyAlpha
    I vote against Word of Paul. Not being religiously raised, I have no idea who he is. Same for peter.
  • August 5, 2011
    Stratadrake
    But St.Paul? Still, Word Of Apostle has brevity going for it...
  • August 5, 2011
    hotrods4ben
    I say the name is good (and Redirects Are Free) but this Needs More Examples.
  • August 5, 2011
    KaraMayonakaSora
    I'm totally down with this as long as it gets some more examples.
  • August 6, 2011
    peccantis
    Word Of Saint Paul?

    Word Of Paul has serious problems with One Mario Limit. And lame Beatles gags.
  • August 6, 2011
    kjnoren
    ^^^ There are already at least eleven examples given in the original post and the comments.

    Word Of Paul has the extra virtue of being partially self-referencing. One common thing in this trope is that the popular view a very well-known concept or work has been disproportionally influenced by another, less well-known, person. Like Paul's view of Christianity.

    So we can be both fun AND educational.
  • August 6, 2011
    fluffything
    Paul is too common of a name in fiction to use. Which Paul would we be talking about? St. Paul? Paul Mcartney? Paul Blart Mall Cop? Paul the alien? Paul Bunyan?

    St. Paul is better, so long as no one confuses it for "Word Of Minnesota".
  • August 6, 2011
    ladygem
    another vote for Word Of St Paul, just to avoid confusion, and keep up the theme with Word Of God/ Word Of Dante. I got it right away, but I'm Catholic. Although, as has already been noted, some things Paul Mc Cartney has said are also Word Of St Paul.
  • August 6, 2011
    Xtifr
    The name Paul (and Peter) are so common and generic that it could be mistaken for Word Of Some Random Guy.
  • August 6, 2011
    Stratadrake
    Word Of Apostle Paul has no ambiguity whatsoever, but is nowhere near the conciseness of Word Of Apostle.
  • August 7, 2011
    X2X
    Word Of Apostle, for the sake of brevity and getting the point across. Word Of St Paul can be a redirect.
  • August 7, 2011
    frodobatmanvader
    1. The five tropers who think this is ready to publish need to be shot. 2. I like Wordof Paul, but it does need a clearer name. 3. We need some actual examples!
  • August 8, 2011
    Aielyn
    How about going slightly more generic, less Christian-centric?

    Word Of Disciple.

    In fact, if you want a bit of extra added fun, there's a chance for Fun With Acronyms, in the form of Word Of Righteous Disciple, Word Of Reverent Disciple, or Word Of Reliable Disciple.

    Then, of course, you'd have Word Of Paul and Word Of Actor as redirects.
  • August 8, 2011
    Stratadrake
    WORD. Hehe.
  • August 8, 2011
    Discovery
    I like Word Of Disciple or Word Of Apostle best; Word Of Saint Paul seems too long and clunky in my opinion. As for Word Of Righteous Disciple & co, Fun With Acronyms is nice and all, but I think adding the adjective in there messes up the parallel between this trope and Word Of God and Word Of Dante.
  • August 8, 2011
    randomsurfer
    Batman And Robin: George Clooney stated that Bruce Wayne was gay.
  • August 8, 2011
    Topazan
  • August 8, 2011
    X2X
    For the time being, frodobatmanvader is right. The name of the trope is a bit of an afterthought at the moment. What we really right now are more examples.
  • August 8, 2011
    Statalyzer
    FWIW, this is definitely different from both Word Of God (has the official say) and Dante (knows a lot about it but wasn't directly involved).
  • August 9, 2011
    Statalyzer
    FWIW, this is definitely different from both Word Of God (has the official say) and Dante (knows a lot about it but wasn't directly involved).
  • August 9, 2011
    kjnoren
    Word Of Apostle has the problem of being too closely tied to Christianity. Word Of Disciple has the problem of not including spouses or actors or editors.

    The virtue of using Word Of Saint Paul is that it is very highly specific -- it is easier to expand a trait of an individual (Paul) than it is to expand on a concept (disciple, apostle, prophet, actor et c).

    There is one title that may fit the trope perfectly, Word Of Deutero Creator (or similar), but I think it would be too unwieldy and lack punch.
  • August 9, 2011
    Aielyn
    Word Of Disciple covers spouses, actors, and editors without a problem. A disciple is a close follower of a god, which, if you refer to the author, that would be a perfect description of spouses, actors, and editors - they're the people who are connected to "god", but not "god" itself. They're the people who have a close relationship with "god".

    Of course, strictly speaking, an actor doesn't have to have a relationship with the author... but it's close enough to serve the purpose.
  • August 11, 2011
    kjnoren
    No, I get entirely different connotations of disciple. Any Christian can arguably be treated as a disciple of Jesus, which would make include Word Of Dante into Word Of Disciple. At the same time, Engels can hardly be treated as a disciple of Marx, since they were co-developers of many of the theories within Marxism, and neither can Paul compared to John in The Beatles.

    Word Of Deuterocreator says what it is about: that the person had a large and active role in creating and shaping the original work or at least the perception of it, or at least had a very close relation to the original creator.
  • August 11, 2011
    elwoz
    I want to put in a good word for Word Of Saint Paul. It perfectly fits the existing Word Of God, Word Of Dante pattern: Jesus, St. Paul, and Dante all provided material contributing to Christianity, but each of them has a different level of ability-to-speak-canon. Also, Christianity (broad sense) being one of the top five world religions, the odds of non-troper non-English-lit-nerds knowing exactly what we mean from the title are high. Word Of Deuterocreator, by contrast, involves a ten-dollar word that lots of people would have to go look up. (I'd support having it as a redirect, though.)
  • August 11, 2011
    SilentReverence
    I'd rather have it not used a christian name because, really, we do have more religions. But seeing Word Of Dante make me think I'm like, what, 5 years too late?

  • August 11, 2011
    crazysamaritan
    Yep. Sorry, but religion influences secular work, and the more known a religion is, the more it affects.
  • August 11, 2011
    Damr1990
    add one vote for Word of Apostle, Word of Disciple is my second choice thought,
  • August 11, 2011
    randomsurfer
    Real Life: we only have Plato's word on what Socrates said/thought, since Socrates didn't cotton to writing.
  • August 12, 2011
    frodobatmanvader
    Added a Big Bang Theory entry cause, you know, WE STILL NEED EXAMPLES! (I think that Word Of Reliable Desciple has a funny, snarky vibe to it, and does the best for describing this trope)
  • August 16, 2011
    hotrods4ben
    If we don't get more examples, Just Launch It Already
  • August 17, 2011
    Discovery
    Maybe we should have a crowner first to vote on the title...?
  • August 17, 2011
    Stratadrake
    The draft has plenty of examples -- we just need to agree on which title to use. Crowners normally don't see much action outside of TRS, but yes we can do one.

    >> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/crowner.php/AlternativeTitles/WordOfStPaul
  • August 17, 2011
    Tzintzuntzan
    I'm embarrassed that I just found this -- (curse YKTTW!) But...is this the same as My Real Daddy?
  • August 17, 2011
    jaytee
    I gotta add my opinion. I think Word Of Dante covers this in spirit. Tropes Are Flexible.
  • August 17, 2011
    FastEddie
    Does seem like unnecessary snowcloning.
  • August 17, 2011
    Stratadrake
    We all know it's a snowclone, but unncessary?
  • August 17, 2011
    kjnoren
    The crowner lacks Word Of Deuterocreator as an option, I just realised.
  • August 17, 2011
    AmyJade
    ^^^I thought unnecessary snowcloning was when the title reference had nothing to do with the actual trope and thus caused confusion, whereas here the title reference helps explain what the title is referring to.
  • August 18, 2011
    Camacan
    Add this as a sentence to Word Of Dante, if it is really warranted. We absolutely do not need another The Same But More Specific trope.
  • August 19, 2011
    Stratadrake
    So we're looking at two options, one being a separate trope (name TBA) and the other, expanding Word Of Dante to include this.
  • August 19, 2011
    Nocturna
    I think it's a separate trope; this trope covers adherents who are far more closely connected to the original than Word Of Dante does.
  • August 19, 2011
    jaytee
    ^Maybe we should have separate tropes for Word Of God, Word of Dante, Word of Actors, Word of Executive Producers, Word of Associate Producers, Word of Writers, etc etc etc? One for each tier of connectedness.
  • August 19, 2011
    Tzintzuntzan
    Again, this seems more like My Real Daddy than Word Of Dante to me.
  • August 19, 2011
    Stratadrake
    ^ I don't see the resemblance.
  • August 19, 2011
    Tzintzuntzan
    If that's addressed to me, My Real Daddy is when a later writer, not the original one, is the source of a lot of what fans consider canon. (For instance, Carl Barks and Chris Claremont.) This is almost exactly what the OP seems to be: a prominent second-generation creator (like St. Paul)becoming a source of canon.
  • August 19, 2011
    Nocturna
    ^^^^No, that's not what I'm saying. Word Of God is where the creator of a work says something about the work. Word Of Dante is where a fan of or scholar on the work--someone who does not have a direct connection to the work's "god"--says something about the work, and it becomes either accepted as canon or closely associated with the work. This trope falls in between that: someone who is directly connected to the work or the work's "god" who says something about the work, which then becomes accepted as canon.

    To use a non-Christian example, the Word Of God about Marxism would be Marx. The Word Of Saint Paul would be Engels. The Word Of Dante would be, for example, Gramsci.
  • August 19, 2011
    Smasher
    As far as I can see, here's the point:

    Wordof God: Bob tells us things not addressed directly in "Big Bob's Big TV Show"

    Word of Diciple/St. Paul/Apostle/: Alice, one of the main actors, or Charlie, the main writter, tells us things not addressed in-universe.

    Wordof Dante: Dante Erikson and Fredrick Gardner, Big Name Fans otherwise prominant fans of "Big Bob's Big TV Show", sprout theories that the other fans generally accept.

    Do I get it?
  • August 19, 2011
    Nocturna
    ^That's my understanding.
  • August 19, 2011
    jaytee
    Why don't actors count as Word Of God anymore?

    Who does count as God?

    What if the showrunner says something about an episode a different writer wrote? Is that Word Of God or Word Of Paul?

    What if an actor made an addition to the script that made final cut? Is the writer still Word Of God or does that fall to the actor now?

    Obviously, I really, really don't think we need this. It's a completely arbitrary distinction in any media where the "creator" is not a single person (ie, film, television, animated works, comic books, theatre, etc etc etc). Who are you to decide whether "God" on any given matter is the writer, the director, the executive producer, the showrunner or the actor?
  • August 19, 2011
    Nocturna
    ^I have to agree. It seems far too subjective (What is over-exposition? Was that particular bit of exposition unneeded or something that made the story more believable? Etc.) to make a good trope.

    However, if you don't want to let the concept perish into complete oblivion, you could make a suggestion to have it added to (or add it yourself to) Build Your Own Fictional World, which is a place where I think it is relevant.

    EDIT from Discovery: I'm not sure what's up with this glitch, because I didn't write this but when I pressed comment this is what came up. So whoever did write this, do they want to repost it or something?

    EDIT from Nocturna: I wrote this as a comment on a completely different YKTTW. I have no idea why it would have shown up here, especially for someone other than me.

    Second EDIT from Nocturna: Somehow the system seems to have this comment posted to two different YKTT Ws at the same time. It belongs with The Midichlorian Principle, not with Word Of Saint Paul.
  • August 19, 2011
    jaytee
    ^Completely Missing The Point

    So maybe the actor comments on the subtext of the line in an interview. You get the idea. Trying to limit eevery work to a single creator/God is an exercise in complete futility.
  • August 19, 2011
    Nocturna
    Maybe someone could create a crowner as to whether or not we need this trope? Or tell me where I can find instructions on creating a crowner?
  • August 19, 2011
    Stratadrake
    @Nocturna: It's a known bug in the YKTTW system that individual comment I Ds sometimes overlap, causing the server to get two comments confused with each other. The individual YKTT Ws still display the correct comment, but the moment you make any edit to either one, it edits both. Which is bad.

    It's been reported (repeatedly) and yet it still happens -- you'll just have to repost.
  • August 19, 2011
    Nocturna
    ^The comment is still showing up in the correct YKTTW; I can't blank the one here, though, because it would also blank the other. And I wasn't the one who was trying to post a comment here when the issue occurred, Discovery was.
  • August 20, 2011
    Smasher
    Looking at it again, wouldn't Tim Curry's claim abount Frank N Furter fall under Word of Gay?
  • October 2, 2011
    hotrods4ben
    This hasn't been launched? Just Launch It Already
  • October 2, 2011
    kjnoren
    There were (and may still be) severe disagreements about the title.
  • October 2, 2011
    Nocturna
    Here's another link to the title crowner: [1]

    More votes would be good.
  • October 2, 2011
    MorganWick
    Over one hundred comments? Just Launch It Already!

    Wow, My Real Daddy has a terrible title. I expected it to be an actual plot trope (you ARE the father!). But it does seem closer to Word Of Dante than this trope.
  • October 3, 2011
    Gatomon41
    Got no problem with Word of St. Paul
  • October 3, 2011
    69BookWorM69
    I also like Word Of St Paul; it fits nicely between Word Of God and Word Of Dante.
  • October 3, 2011
    KingZeal
    I agree. Word Of Saint Paul is the best.

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