Created By: James Doyle on December 1, 2009

The Obi Wannabe

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He's older and ostensibly wiser, and more than willing to impart his wisdom upon his children, younger siblings, or other youngster.

There's just one problem: His advice sucks!

Sometimes he's just clueless, but other times, he's intentionally misleading his protege.

The most common subversion of The Obi-Wan.


Life With Derek: Derek Venturi is constantly misguiding his younger brother Edwin, encouraging Edwin to be a delinquent like him, giving him faulty social advice, and sometimes intentionally misleading Edwin for his own amusement.

Trojan War: Seth is training Josh in the ways of seducing women. Unfortunately, his advice consists mostly of idiotic pickup lines. After trying them for himself, Josh calls him out, quite aptly stating "You know nothing!"
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  • December 1, 2009
    TB Tabby
    Dad on The Brak Show. Brak is the only character who takes his advice seriously at all.
  • December 1, 2009
    James Doyle
    Spin City: At the beginning of the season after Mike left, Paul imparted some his wisdom on how to live a celibate lifestyle to Caitlin. Inevitably, she gave up and hopped on a plane to get back with Mike. A later scene where Paul overhears a conversation between Charlie and one of his conquests shows that Paul himself is barely hanging on.
  • December 1, 2009
    Some Guy
    Pierce on Community. Even though this is obvious pretty much from the beginning, the other characters still listen to him from time to time, largely because his lackluster knowledge is still the only knowledge about a topic anyone has.
  • December 1, 2009
    James Doyle
    • In an episode of Hannah Montana, Hannah has found that kids will emulate just about everything she does, and is afraid to ever express her opinions or preferences on television. As such, Robbie Ray enlists Jackson to school her in the fine art of obfuscation. Of course, it backfires horribly, and Hannah ends up delivering the episode's Aesop about being yourself instead.

    • That70s Show: Hyde has made a sport out of giving his friends faulty advice for the amusement of seeing them make jackasses of themselves. His favorite target is Kelso (who still listens because he's so irremediably stupid,) though he enjoys tormenting Fez almost as much.
  • December 1, 2009
    Unknown Troper
    Colonel Rodney Crittendon from the classic TV sitcom "Hogan's Heroes"

    This re-occuring character was in some ways the Allies answer to the German's Colonel Klink.

    This British officer would get captured frequently and sent to Stalag 13 with Hogan and his crack team of deep cover sabotuers. He was technically higher ranked then Colonel Hogan (by date of promotion, as Crittendon would frequently remind Hogan) and would often usurp Hogan's Authority. Crittendon was just too incompetant and genre-blind to be anything less then a complete hindrance, though the clever spies would occasionally manage to use his bumbling stupidity to their advantage.

    What makes him an Obi Wannabe is the endless string of bad ideas and plans he would concoct for the "escape" from the POW camp. Unbeknown to Crittendon, Hogan and his team had no intention of escaping, and used the fact that they were under the supervision of the incompetent Commandant Klink, and the incredibly lazy and corruptible Seargent Shultz to launch various sabotage and subterfuge operations from deep within Nazi territory.
  • December 2, 2009
    I've got to say, the pun is excellent.

    • The spirt of the Harkonnen Cannon in Hellsing tries to give Seras his sagely advice. She chooses to ask if her string of bad luck will continue. His answer? "Yep". He revealed a second later that it was a joke.
    • Headmaster Cross in Vampire Knight does this to Zero, who usually either shrugs off his advice or Dope Slaps him.
  • December 2, 2009
    I love the title.

    Just for clarification, is this supposed to be a mentor that is acknowledged in-story that they're not doing a very good job, or a mentor that the audience takes issue with because of Moral Dissonance or Values Dissonance etc.? If it's the former, is the bad advice because of malevolent intentions or the mentor is just stupid?

  • December 2, 2009
    James Doyle
    Either acknowledged by at least some of the characters to be full of crap, or universally understood by the audience to be so. In other words, never meant by anyone to be taken seriously as a mentor. And the bad advice can stem from either malice or incompetence.
  • December 2, 2009
    May overlap with the Know Nothing Know It All.

    Owl from Bambi. The advice he gives Bambi and his friends is terrible advice to give young animals. Fortunately nature takes over and they ignore his advice.
  • December 2, 2009
    Infinite Ryvius actually has two examples, one is Zwei "leader" Lucson, who tries to take command and fails miserably. Heck, arguably every "leader" of the cast fits this to some degree, but a particular example should probably be Julii: Everyone expects her to be a great leader, but she turns out to be (and acknowledges that she is) really bad at it.
  • December 2, 2009
    Gilderoy Lockhart from Harry Potter.
  • December 2, 2009
    In Mallrats, Brodie gives advice to TS all the time, but when TS actually takes it... "You're listening to me? To something I said? Jesus, man, hasn't it become abundantly clear during the tenure of our friendship that I don't know shit?"
  • December 2, 2009
    Great, great, great title.