Created By: TheHandle on October 9, 2013 Last Edited By: TheHandle on October 15, 2013
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My Little Pony Crossover

An index listing pony crossovers, many of which already have their own page here

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Friendship Is Magic has an extremely prolific, creative, art-driven, popculture-loving fandom that crosses it over with pretty much anything and everything, through any medium, be it Fan Fiction or Fan-Art or Fan Videos or Fan Games or Fan Anything. A Fimfiction search with the tag "crossovers" brings a *lot* of resutls. As of this article's writing, there are 13195 pages' worth of MLP images tagged "crossover" on image aggregator Derpibooru*. A search on DeviantArt returns 5091 works. Go on YouTube and search for "MLP + popular work" and you'll probably find something.

As usual, Sturgeon's Law applies; thankfully, the quantity of work produced is so immense, there's a very large amount of very excellent work out there.

One could hypothesize that this phenomenon is encouraged by the show's tendency to incorporate popular culture into its setting, plots, jokes, songs... references and homages abound,and the setting is at once vague and yet vivid in such a way that it's easy to meld with pretty much anything. As bronies often say, "IT BLENDS!"

There are also many works that cross-over in spirit, in the style of Spiritual Successor and Spiritual Licensee, or "your premise recycled IN EQUESTRIA.

Examples (classified by medium of origin of the work being crossed over with):

Anime and Manga Comic Books Literature Live-Action TV New Media Tabletop RPG Video Game

Multiple Works

Community Feedback Replies: 57
  • October 9, 2013
    KarjamP
    Name violates Clear Concise Witty (keyword: "clear").

    What about Pony Crossover Fic as a title instead.
  • October 9, 2013
    TwoGunAngel
    Pony Crossover Fic sounds good.
  • October 9, 2013
    Larkmarn
    Isn't this just true of any large fandom?
  • October 9, 2013
    Koveras
    Is this intended as a trope or as a trivia? Because "rules of the internet" are a meme AFAIK...
  • October 9, 2013
    KarjamP
    ^A subtrope of Common Crossover, to be precise.

    Interestingly, it calls this "Rule P", not "Rule 53". :P
  • October 9, 2013
    MorningStar1337
    ^^^^^ By that logic Rule34 and Rule63 also violate the rule, yet you're not complaining about those.

    Also I think the name should be Crossovers/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic. Touhou has a page for crossovers under that namespace despite being Rule (9).
  • October 9, 2013
    KarjamP
    Good idea.
  • October 9, 2013
    Snicka
    ^^ At least Rule 34 is an euphemism, so you can talk about it without explicitly mentioning porn. Not so sure about Rule 63.
  • October 9, 2013
    AmyGdala
    This probably has a place on a My Little Pony wiki somewhere. Not here.
  • October 9, 2013
    TheHandle
    I beg to differ, Mr. Grumpy Terse Talker. If Rule 9 has a page, and Rule 50 has another, then MLP's crossovers having a page of their own is not only acceptable, but recommendable, in order to ease the pressure on the Fan Fic page of the show that we have here. More importantly, this page is hardly off-mission for this wiki; the phenomenon is very notable, and of interest (and exasperation) to more people than just the fans of the work.
  • October 9, 2013
    TheHandle
    I've removed all references to the Rules Of The Internet, since it appears that things that are related to "memes" have gone out of favour in this wiki. What else should I do to get these "motions to discard" removed?
  • October 9, 2013
    AmyGdala
    "Rule 9" shouldn't have its own page. You can post links to My Little Pony fanfics in the My Litle Pony Fan Fic Recs page.
  • October 9, 2013
    TheHandle
    It's not just about the fanfics. It's about the fan art, and the fan videos, and the fan games, and the fan figurines, and the fan everything; Fanfic Recs does overlap a little, but doesn't cut it. Plus, this page would allow to list notable works (fanfic or otherwise) without recommending them.

    Also, I beg to differ on rule 9; I believe it is perfectly fine for it to have its own page.
  • October 9, 2013
    AmyGdala
    What is a notable work?
  • October 9, 2013
    zarpaulus
  • October 9, 2013
    TheHandle
    ^^I may be stating the obvious here, but "notable works" are "works which the editor finds worthy of note", i.e. "anything which any troper finds good enough to make an entry for in the page", which tends to correlate rather strongly with popularity, but there's always outliers in a statistic distribution, and of course there's the occasional Vocal Minority.

    ^
    • One, that's a Fanfic Recs page, not a works page; the formats and intents are very different.
    • Two, its title needs to be changed, since it explicitly contains only fics that are both crossovers and contain humans at the same time.
    • Three, it does not include any fan art, fan vids, fan games, or any of the multitudes of expressions of pony crossover other than written fiction.
  • October 9, 2013
    AmyGdala
    Why do we care whether an editor finds a work worthy of note? Are you familiar with There Is No Such Thing As Notability? We record every work, so long as it follows a trope. And if it doesn't follow a trope, we don't record it, because "this exists" doesn't mean anything to us.

    Again, if you want to record all My Little Pony works that you like, I'm sure there are many places on the web for that.
  • October 10, 2013
    TheHandle
    Did you just say "we record everything" and "if you want to record everything about ponies, go do it elsewhere" in the same breath?
  • October 10, 2013
    KarjamP
    Anyone who doesn't want this trope for basis of "listing them all is a bad idea" or related as well as "We shouldn't have this as that'll be redundant with FanficRecs/My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic" should tell that to the people who made the page Crossovers/Touhou.

    Besides, there's a difference between Fanfic Recs and a list of all unofficial crossovers: one's about recommend fanfics (ie, fanfics that a specific troper finds great), while the other is about an attempt to list all fan works that are a crossover between this work and another.

    Therefore, that won't make this trope redundant with FanficRecs/My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic Crossover, especially since this trope isn't exclusive to fan fiction.
  • October 10, 2013
    TheHandle
    Should we imitate that Touhou page's layout, though? I feel it suffers too much from Zero Context Example, for one thing.
  • October 10, 2013
    AmyGdala
    To repeat: we record every work that follows a particular trope, regardless of how notable it is. If any of these works have tropes that you'd like to note, do so on the trope page, or even give the work a page or its own with a list of tropes.

    We have designated "crossover" as a genre of fan fiction. We have an index that lists crossovers - Fan Fic.Crossover. You can list any My Little Pony work that has a page there. You can make pages for ones that don't, if they have enough tropes to justify a page.
  • October 10, 2013
    TheHandle
    But we can't make a page for works that may or may not warrant a page of their own but all have in common that they are crossover fan works based on MLP regardless of media? I call shenanigans.
  • October 10, 2013
    KarjamP
    ^^But what about works that doesn't exist on this wiki?

    And as I said, Fanfic Recs sounds like recommendations of Fan fiction that tropers like, not a list of all fan fiction pertaining to a specific work.
  • October 11, 2013
    JapaneseTeeth
    So basically, the point of the page is just to categorize all the MLP crossover material? I can see why something like that might be useful, given how fan-oriented the show is, but I'm not sure that this wiki is really the place for it. The purpose of the site is to catalog the tropes present in works, and just listing the works themselves without having any relevant tropes attached to it doesn't quite fit. That said, we already have plenty of Just For Fun stuff anyway, so I wouldn't complain if we had such a page.
  • October 11, 2013
    Sixthhokage1
    This really doesn't seem like material for this wiki, and for that matter neither does Crossover.Touhou
  • October 11, 2013
    MorningStar1337
    ^ Yet that page exists anyway. Speaking of which, is there any threads about removing Crossovers.Touhou?
  • October 12, 2013
    TheHandle
    Now that would be rich. I make a page from stuff that already exists, and now people are wondering whether that previous stuff should be destroyed? What's wrong with you people?

    ^^Why not? We have Trivia pages, Shout Out pages, Wild Mass Guessing pages, multiple Character pages, exceedingly long Fanfic pages, why can't we have Crossover pages for works that have lots of crossovers? I keep seeing the "motions to discard" accumulating and it's really bugging me, I don't get your thought process, and no-one has bothered to argue anything other than "this shouldn't be here".
  • October 12, 2013
    KarjamP
    Too many Motion To Discards. :P

    And I agree with TheHandle.
  • October 12, 2013
    CrypticMirror
    @ The Handle I make a page from stuff that already exists, and now people are wondering whether that previous stuff should be destroyed? What's wrong with you people?

    Yep. That is what happens. Seriously I learnt this lesson back in primary school. Any time anyone tries to say something like "this unpopular/borderline-relevant thing is similar to X which we have already, so we should have it" it is an open invitation for people to to reconsider the original X. I have never seen this tactic work in gaining something.

    Try it at your place of work and see what happens. We lost free tea and coffee for employees and the employee relaxation garden because they were offered up as pre-existing justifications. It isn't a tvtropes specific phenomenon. I doubt you are going to win this one, all you are going to do is end up getting those other pages wiped by pressing on.
  • October 12, 2013
    Koveras
  • October 12, 2013
    KarjamP
    ^^ But then we can't just say we don't want it without stating a proper reason.

    That won't cut it, especially since people here already list recommendations for fanfics they like, and maybe even start work pages for said works.

    In case anyone's wondering, Theres No Such Thing As Notability, so we can't just cut those pages because we think it's not notable.

    Stuff like this are actually useful in that not only it offers proof of these crossovers, it also points to works that feature the crossovers themselves.

    Even if you'd just go ahead and cutlist Crossover.Touhou, that is not proper procedure, so we'd have to wait until a Trope Repair Slot's open and create a thread.
  • October 12, 2013
    randomsurfer
    Non-Bronie here, but I can see the use for this especially if there are works pages already.

    EDIT: Oh, wait - Fanworks.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic already exists. So no, this would just The Same But More Specific.
  • October 12, 2013
    TheHandle
    I've gone to Fim Fiction and searched for crossover fics by number of views. I've only aded a few as you can see. I'd be very thankful for anyone to go on exploring that list and adding to this page, especially fics that have their own page here already.
  • October 12, 2013
    kjnoren
    ^^ I'd recommend that this starts on that page, really. If it gets enough examples, then it can be split off easily.
  • October 12, 2013
    TheHandle
    I wouldn't know how to begin moving things from here to there, frankly. Also, that page gives me a headache; there's no contextualization, no explanation, nothing, it's just a list of titles within categories.
  • October 12, 2013
    KarjamP
    It's possible to do fanworks without doing crossovers, randomsurfer.

    Besides, there's probably too many examples of this phenomenon to be put under Fanworks.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic anyway, and pages are known for being split if it gets too big (to not only decrease server load, but, AFAIK, it causes glitches as well).
  • October 12, 2013
    kjnoren
    ^ Sounds like it would need improvement then.

    Or just add a new category for crossovers, and make that into an example for the rest of the page should look.
  • October 12, 2013
    Pichu-kun
    I'm thinking this trope would work better with official crossovers of My Little Pony in general (not just G4).
  • October 12, 2013
    KarjamP
    ^ This is supposed to be for unofficial crossovers (ie, fan works).
  • October 12, 2013
    DracMonster
    Any chance we can title this Crossfic Is Magic? Please?!

    (Probably not, but I can dream...)
  • October 12, 2013
    KarjamP
    ^Or better yet, My Little Pony: Crossfic Is Magic! :P

    Punny or not, it has to make sense for the title in order for it to be used.
  • October 12, 2013
    DracMonster
    ^Thats what I meant, was too lazy to type it out.

    Could we actually get away with that or is it too obtuse?
  • October 12, 2013
    m8e
    Just wanted to point out that my little pony isn't just FIM, but I guess that Pichu-kun already did that.

    The title/laconic/description need to be changed so they match each other.

    Edit: To be clear, I don't care if this is FIM only or not. I just think everything should match.
  • October 12, 2013
    TheHandle
    Unfortunately, the title space is too small for me to fit "Friendship is magic" into it, and I thought "MLP:FIM" just looked ugly. Crossfic is magic sounds good, but it would suggest it's only for crossover fics rather than any crossover works. Perhaps simply My Little Pony: Crossovers are Magic?

    I've got nothing against including a section for official crossovers.

    I'm not sure about the older generations, but I... guess it's worth thinking about...?
  • October 12, 2013
    Pichu-kun
    I know, Karjam P. I just said I think it'd be better if it was a Stock Parodies trope instead of a fan-works one.
  • October 12, 2013
    AmyGdala
    All the examples here with pages are already on Fan Fic.Crossover (or should be).

    If these examples make up an unwieldy chunk of the page, then you can split them off as Fan Fic.Crossover.My Little Pony. Or FanWorks.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic.Crossover. But in either case, it should be an index - "My Little Pony crossover" is not a trope, it's just a convenient way to list works that in any case deserve their own page.
  • October 12, 2013
    TheHandle
    Well, the trope would be that MLP is so exceptionally crossover-conductive. That's why, when I created it, I named it Rule P; 'if it exists, there is a pony crossover of it'. But then I got, like, three motions to discard and some skeptical reactions; I attributed them to the memetic origins of the concept (like Rule34 and Rule63), because I know memes have gone out of favour here, and I tried to repurpose it as an index/catalogue, but the reception remains fairly bad. It's been kinda depressing, really; I'm having trouble anticipating the hive mind's reactions...
  • October 12, 2013
    AmyGdala
    "MLP is so exceptionally crossover-conductive" is not a trope. "Some works are exceptionally crossover-conductive" could be a trope, of which MLP would be one example — except it's not a trope, because ALL works are crossover-conductive. That's the logic behind your Rule Fifty. The number of Fan Fic crossovers a work has is only limited by the number of Fan Fics it has, and MLP has 200 billion of them.

    Again, if you want to list MLP crossovers, I've suggested several pages for it on this site. But list only examples that have pages - or create pages for all examples - else we wind up with unsupported tropeless assertions like "Fluttershy tends to be cast as Dragonborn."
  • October 13, 2013
    CrypticMirror
    Given the amount of motions to discards, and the lack of any hats, I would like to nominate that this is launched into the discard list.
  • October 13, 2013
    SeptimusHeap
    I think this is covered by a Crossover/ page.
  • October 13, 2013
    KarjamP
    ^^ Just because this isn't a trope doesn't mean it can't have a place here.

    In fact, a couple of people here are actually stating that it is already covered by a Crossover/ page.

    And CrypticMirror, most of the hats are for vague reasons, so I wouldn't count them as valid arguments anyway.

    The fact that people here are already stating about it already being covered on other pages, though, aren't vague, and thus, are valid arguments.
  • October 14, 2013
    TheHandle
    From the MLP fanfiction discussion here in the fora, someone qualified such crossovers as "Pop culture in equestria". I thought this was a good enough title to work from, hence the change to Recycled In Equestria.

    ^Arguments that are not vague can still be unsound and invalid; what you said is a Non Sequitur, for instance. Arguments that are worded vaguely can be supporting a valid proposal nonetheless; example, "You shouldn't be mean to people, even when it's to your benefit, because it feels bad for the others and you just don't want to be in that place."

    It's not because someone doesn't have a way with words that what they say is worthless.
  • October 15, 2013
    TheHandle
    ""MLP is so exceptionally crossover-conductive" is not a trope. "Some works are exceptionally crossover-conductive" could be a trope, of which MLP would be one example — except it's not a trope, because ALL works are crossover-conductive. That's the logic behind your Rule 50. The number of Fan Fic crossovers a work has is only limited by the number of Fan Fics it has, and MLP has 200 billion of them."

    You seem to suggest that all works are equally crossover conductive, which they are most certainly not. It is an easily observable fact that some works encourage crossovers more than others, which is to say, that the number of crossovers is not directly proportionate to the number of fics. And, of course, that hyperbole at the end would suggest a bit less than 33 fanfics written per human being on this planet. We'll get there eventually, I'm sure, but it's a bit of a premature announcement.

    Also, the reason I created this YKTTW is so I could get some help adding examples. Work Pages Are A Free Launch; I don't know whether that also applies to lists of works.

    "But list only examples that have pages - or create pages for all examples - else we wind up with unsupported tropeless assertions like "Fluttershy tends to be cast as Dragonborn.""

    I blame Fandom Myopia; if you had been there to observe the Skyrim hype at its height, you'd have grown tired of seeing fanart of Fluttershy in a ram-horned iron helmet shouting Yay! So, to me, the statement borders on Self Evident, but thanks for warning me that it isn't so for everyone.
  • October 15, 2013
    KarjamP
    ^ Then explain why we have stuff like Crossover.Touhou and other fanfic listings.

    Just because it's not a trope doesn't mean that this shouldn't be here.

    And I liked the title before it was changed to a Snowclone of Recycled In Space.
  • October 15, 2013
    TheHandle
    Where did all the hats go?
  • October 15, 2013
    JapaneseTeeth
    Outside of just being an index for MLP fanworks, what exactly is the purpose of this page? I can't see any actual function for it that isn't redundant with My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic outside of a special emphasis on Crossovers. I'd say that we either add the description and crossover works to that page, or just make it a subpage or something.

    Otherwise, I seriously don't know what this page is for outside of "FIM has a lot of crossovers, here's a list of them".
  • October 15, 2013
    TheHandle
    That it be a subpage was the intent for a while now; fitting all these into the Fan Works page, bloated as it already is, would be a problem. Better to split into subpages, and save the servers a cry.
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