Created By: sparkysparkkyboommanAugust 17, 2011 Last Edited By: sparkysparkkyboommanAugust 20, 2011
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Luca Brassi Effect

Epic fail by a supposed Badass after an epic buildup of tension and exposition on how tough he is

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When a Badass in name only is killed rather quickly on screen after the rest of the cast buildup the legend which makes the audience say WTF when the alledged Badass dies two minutes later. As seen in the original Godfather movie.
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  • August 17, 2011
    Flowinbiscuit
    Well to be fair Luca Brassi was a badass, but thats when he was on a strict kill X people, read the awesome stuff in the books. But when not expecting it, being stabbed in the hand by one of the best people with a knife, held down by another guy, and garroted would dupe anybody. I mean in a gunfight, he would have cleaned up.
  • August 17, 2011
    Fanra
    Here's your page quote if we go with this:

    [Tessio brings in Luca Brasi's bulletproof vest, delivered with a fish inside]
    Sonny: What the hell is this?
    Clemenza: It's a Sicilian message. It means Luca Brasi sleeps with the fishes.
  • August 18, 2011
    SparkySparkyBoomMan
    Thank you for your advice. Much appreciated, especially you Fanra
  • August 18, 2011
    jaytee
    Needs A Better Title. We don't name tropes for characters.
  • August 18, 2011
    CommanderPanda
  • August 18, 2011
    jaytee
    ^I think that gets the point across, but lacks punch. Should definitely be a redirect.
  • August 18, 2011
    CommanderPanda
    Historically, the Spanish Armada was a Tiger that dominated the Atlantic Ocean. At least until a well-timed storm dominated the Spanish Armada. Ever after, history teachers were blessed with the term "Paper Tiger."
  • August 19, 2011
    SparkySparkyBoomMan
    @jaytee

    Perhaps you have heard of the <Leroy Jenkins> or the <Bumblebee> trope?
  • August 19, 2011
    Madcapunlimited
    Randall Flagg's Death in the last Dark Tower book.
  • August 19, 2011
    Ryusui
  • August 19, 2011
    Madcapunlimited
    This feels to me almost like the Worf Effect, except instead of living to fight another day the character is suddenly turned into a Red Shirt.
  • August 19, 2011
    jaytee
    ^^^^Any character-named tropes in existence were grandfathered in. The current policy is that we do not name tropes for characters.

    It's too confusing for people who are not familiar with the reference. The trope should be named something that is clear to everybody.
  • August 19, 2011
    SparkySparkyBoomMan
    ^ Since the Godfather is older than both references and with a greater audience (Yes I believe that more people have seen the Godfather than Transformers and WOW combined, as many tropers will attest to I believe) the meaning will not be lost on the masses. In fact it might encourage more indiviuals to watch the movie.

    BTW is there a list of these grandfathered in references I could see?
  • August 19, 2011
    TheGoodNamesAreGone
  • August 19, 2011
    jaytee
    ^^Are you being intentionally difficult? I'm not trying to be an asshole here. We really and truly do not make new tropes named after chracters. PM Fast Eddie if you want, nobody's going to tell you any differently.

    No matter how popular you think The Godfather is, Luca Brassi's identity has not entered the pop culture lexicon through Pop Cultural Osmosis (I've seen the movie and I don't even know who he is). However, even if it had, we would need a really good reason to name the trope after him anyway.

    Besides the fact that anyone who doesn't know the specific reference will be lost immediately, even people who know the reference aren't clued into what the trope means. Without reading the actual article, it's impossible to know which aspect of Luca Brassi is being referenced for the trope. Trope titles should make the trope's meaning clear on face.

    In other words, Needs A Better Title.
  • August 19, 2011
    jaytee
    And no, I don't believe there's a list of grandfathered trope titles, nor is there a hard and fast rule. Check the page's list of wicks--if it has a whole bunch, chances are the names not gonna change.

    If you want to change the title of Leeroy Jenkins or another character-named trope, take it up with the Trope Repair Shop. They'll give you a pretty good idea whether changing the name of an existing trope to meet current guidelines is feasible or not.
  • August 20, 2011
    randomsurfer
    @Sparky: The age of the work isn't the issue, it's the age of the trope page. Newly identified tropes are not allowed to be named after characters, period. Older tropes are being renamed, but we can't stop everything else while we* rename all the character named tropes. In the meantime some tropes are named after characters, but new tropes aren't. If you insist upon launching with this title, I promise you that someone will cut it, or at the very least bring it to trope repair for rename.

    * The collective we: I'm not personally involved in the rename project.

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