Created By: deuxheroSeptember 22, 2009
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Villan is Cain

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Exactly What It Says On The Tin, the villan is Cain. In addition to being unable to farm anything, it is sometimes speculated that God cursed Cain with immortality. See Name Of Cain, where the name of the first murderer is used to mark a bad guy.

  • Naoya in Devil Survivor Cain has memory of every life time he has lived, including the first. Over his long life he has become obsessed with revenge and seeks to achieve that by having Abel, the player character, rebel against God.
  • In Vampire The Masquerade, the first vampire is named "Caine" and is the Cain from the Bible. In Demon The Fallen (in the same universe), it's noted that Caine invented murder and the killing of sentients.
  • It is hinted at that the Nod commander Kane in Command And Conquer is... Cain. Evidence for indicates that he is shown to be the same age during the 1940s, he survives an Ion Cannon blast that he embraces and when assumed to be be the Biblical Cain by followers does not deny it.

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  • September 21, 2009
    Unknown Troper
    In Dracula 2000 Dracula is Judas who is also the Wandering Jew, a legend of a man forced to Walk The Earth very clearly based on the story of Cain.
  • September 21, 2009
    Genuine
    How about the recent DC comics revelation that Vandal Savage is Cain.
  • September 21, 2009
    RockSunner
    Cain and his repeated victim Abel feature in The Sandman comic book series by Neil Gaiman.
  • September 21, 2009
    Everzwijn
    It's spelled villain.

    Also, do we really need two (three?) tropes about the same name?
  • September 21, 2009
    idledandy
    Related: the villain in the cheesy Demi Moore vehicle The Seventh Sign is the Wandering Jew.
  • September 21, 2009
    minstrel of moria
    Grendel is sometimes portrayed as Cain in later adaptations. What we have of the original was rewritten to include Christian elements, so this isn't particularly surprising (though the wording it uses would imply a descendant of Cain.)
  • September 22, 2009
    BlackDragon
    If Judas qualifies too, he showed up in Marvel for a while... during the Clone Saga, and probably in other places too. A Dr. Judas Iskariot. And somehow, everybody's surprised when he turns out to be a supervillain with supernatural powers. Turns out he's been researching 'The nature of evil', since back in biblical times...

    Actually, why not make this a more general trope for "No, he's not just a guy with the same name as a historical villain, he IS that guy. Yeah, THAT guy." Judas and Kain pop up a lot, but others with an excuse for immortality might pop up too - particularly historical alchemists.
  • September 22, 2009
    Genuine
    If it gets broadened to mean 'Not just the same name,' then we can include lots of people. For example, Jack the Ripper appears as Jack the Ripper frequently in fiction.
  • September 22, 2009
    Unknown Troper
    @idledandy: No, we have one trope about the name implying evil that's simply a very prominent Names To Run Away From Really Fast but needn't have anything to do with the actual myth, one trope about brotherly hatred using an example so famous it's the common expression for sibling rivalry, and a new trope about someone being the actual factual guy, Cain.

    @Genuine: don't be snide. Because Black Dragon's suggestion is already a trope - Beethoven Was An Alien Spy.
  • September 22, 2009
    Frodo Goofball CoTV
  • September 22, 2009
    Dracomicron
    Tabletop Games
    • In Vampire The Masquerade, the first vampire is named "Caine" and is the Cain from the Bible. In Demon The Fallen (in the same universe), it's revealed that Caine invented murder and the killing of sentients.
  • September 22, 2009
    Genuine
    Apologies, I really wasn't trying to be snide, I thought Black Dragon's suggestion had real merit, I didn't realize it was already a trope.
  • September 22, 2009
    deuxhero
    @Dracomicron: Thanks for expanding the World Of Darkness entry. Also, "revealed"? I don't think that World OF Darkness is the first thing to note that Cain was the first murderer...
  • September 22, 2009
    BlackMageJ
    The guy from Command And Conquer is actually spelled Kane, though he does indeed claim to be the Biblical Cain (or at least, he doesn't correct his followers when they assume he is)
  • September 22, 2009
    Unknown Troper
    Subverted in the SCP-verse. Cain is actually a nice guy (and in this world, that's saying something), only harmful to plants due to his Enemy To All Living Things status. His brother Abel on the other hand...
  • September 22, 2009
    Ryusui
    Since Judas is also a common candidate for this trope (they've both been proposed as the progenitor of all vampires, Cain by the World of Darkness and Judas by the Librarian movies), I suggest we call this Biblical Bad Guy.
  • September 22, 2009
    deuxhero
    ^Catchy.
  • September 23, 2009
    Veritas
    Trinity Blood had Cain as as the Big Bad. Albeit a different Cain who was not human in the least and created by advanced humans. Spoiler it if you get ANY more specific.
  • September 23, 2009
    Bisected8
  • September 23, 2009
    Paul A
    Roger Zelazny's A Night in the Lonesome October has a character who's rumoured to be the Biblical Cain still walking the Earth, but it's not confirmed (or denied) so I don't know if it counts.

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