Created By: DragonQuestZMarch 6, 2011 Last Edited By: DragonQuestZMarch 9, 2011
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Hey, at least with the dying, their Earthly problems will soon be over. Jewish people still have to deal with...

All right, all right! I'll describe Jewish Complaining here already! There, are you happy now?

Jews have a long, proud history of whining and complaining, or at least the Ashkenazi do. They will complain about many things, in many forms, whether it's hypochondria (Oh God, can you catch something from writing that?), having to go to work, having to come home from work, paying too much for something, paying too little for something and worrying it's not good, their friends' bad habits, their friends' good habits, their Jewish Mothers thinking they aren't good enough, or the mothers themselves thinking their children aren't good enough.

This is actually joked about more among Jews themselves than anyone prejudiced against them. Heck, if you see a show showing Jewish people being big whiners, it's more than likely a Jew wrote those parts.

Jews Love To Argue is a Sister Trope. A lot of arguing among Jews is often just them complaining about each other at the same time.

Not to be confused with License To Whine.

Examples:

  • Done a number of times in Fiddler On The Roof, especially by Tevye, including once as a way to save face after he finally gave his blessing to one of his daughters after she married a gentile.
  • The Hebrew Hammer uses this as the final test the "Jewish Justice League" has to gain entrance. It also turns out to be part of a Jew's ultimate weapon.
  • Woody Allen was famous for his characters doing this, and a number of characters based on him do it as well.

Community Feedback Replies: 19
  • March 6, 2011
    peccantis
    Umm... you mean Tevye? Nice trope btw.
  • March 6, 2011
    dotchan
    The number one weapon of the Jewish Mother.
  • March 6, 2011
    DragonQuestZ
    ^^ Fixed that. Thanks.

    ^ I already mentioned that trope in the OP, and you're still wrong. Guilt is the weapon. It involves complaining, but still isn't quite the same thing.
  • March 6, 2011
    neoYTPism
    ... okay, I think this is going to involve Unfortunate Implications. You might want to be careful with this one. o.o
  • March 6, 2011
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ As stated, this is more common among Jews themselves.
  • March 6, 2011
    bluepenguin
    Yeah, I obviously can't speak for all Jews ever, but this doesn't bother me because it's a stereotype I've rarely if ever seen invoked by non-Jews, so it's an N Word Privileges thing.
  • March 6, 2011
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ Um, that trope only applies to words that are, or are like, racial slurs, not stereotypes. We don't have a trope for the latter, but we should so N Word Privileges doesn't keep being misused for that.
  • March 6, 2011
    peccantis
    A trope is a trope and it's only bonus if Jews themselves agree with the others about the complaining thing. This is nowhere near as volatile a topic as it could be, my suggestion is to just carry on improving this. Using common sense is allowed of course, but there should be no need to remind tropers about this especially when stereotypes concerning nationalities or ethnic groups are concerned.

    • Vladek the main character in Maus does complain a lot in the present day. Then again, he is a grumpy old man, AND has experienced the Holocaust.
  • March 6, 2011
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ Oh, that reminds me. The complaining tends to die down when things get truly dire, as you would think the holocaust would be grounds for a nuclear bomb of complaining, but that's one of the things that is often more thought about and discussed instead.
  • March 7, 2011
    neoYTPism
    N Word Priveleges were nonsense to begin with. If you say some word or phrase and condemn others for saying the exact same word or phrase, that is hypocrisy. End of story.
  • March 7, 2011
    DragonQuestZ
    We aren't discussing that trope here. Could you get back on topic and discuss this particular trope and/or give examples.
  • March 7, 2011
    neoYTPism
    Fine, but my point was that this trope seems like it has a LOT of potential to be interpreted as prejudice and should probably be handled with care. That some of the people who would handle it carelessly happen to be jewish is irrelevant. (Perhaps more fitting to my point is that it is not like tropers can tell whether or not whoever typed X was jewish anyway)
  • March 7, 2011
    DragonQuestZ
    Um, any examples that are hate filled would be deleted anyway. BTW, the jews and money tropes are the real unfortunate implications tropes, and even they aren't that big of a problem.

    Now can we get more examples?
  • March 7, 2011
    HieronymusII
  • March 7, 2011
    neoYTPism
    At the very least, though, the description could use rewording to sound less prejudiced.
  • March 7, 2011
    bluepenguin
    I'm sorry for my poorly thought-out linking of a not really related trope. I didn't mean to derail things.

    My point was that this, like Jews Love To Argue, is more of an internal stereotype than an external stereotype, if that makes sense. You frequently see Jews using it as Self Deprecation, but rarely or never see non-Jews using it to put down Jewish people. The external stereotypes of Jews have more to do with money and secret media conspiracies.
  • March 8, 2011
    DragonQuestZ
    I mean, you don't see a skinhead going "Jews have a monopoly on complaining. It's time for the Aryans to take it back."... at least not unless it's a comedy.
  • March 9, 2011
    Clevomon
    My god, Jon Stewart loves joking about this, usually with some overlap into Jews Love To Argue.
  • March 9, 2011
    Fanra
    Woody Allen was famous for his characters doing this, and a number of characters based on him do it as well. Mort Goldman from Family Guy. Kyle's cousin from South Park.

    Have the creators of Family Guy and South Park actually said these characters were based on Woody Allen? Or is this just a guess on the part of some people? Because I don't think they really seem like Woody Allen. Even if they do complain a lot.

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