Created By: AwesomeZombie22 on June 21, 2012 Last Edited By: Bisected8 on November 13, 2013
Troped

Hand Hiding Sleeves

Sleeves that are so long, they cover the wearer's hands.

Name Space:
Main
Page Type:
Trope
Page Images;

Page quotes;
"You'll happily show your navel, but it means marriage for your hands? You definitely have something up your sleeve, don't you!"
Okuni, Warriors Orochi 3

Indexes;
"You'll happily show your navel, but it means marriage for your hands? You definitely have something up your sleeve, don't you!"
Okuni, Warriors Orochi 3

Clockwise from top left: Loaded Sleeves, Oversized Sleeves, Sneaky Sleaves, High Class Sleeves and Cute Sleeves

What's an easy way to make a character seem a bit quirky? Give them loose sleeves!

Whatever the reason, no matter how impractical it may be, this character will have sleeves that extend much farther than their wrists. In terms of length, these sleeves can range from "barely-visible fingertips" to "completely hidden hands", or in extreme cases, to "floor-length". Most of the time, the entire shirt is too big for the wearer, but sometimes, the character will be wearing an otherwise well-fitted shirt and only the sleeves will be oversized.

This trope has five Internal Subtropes;
  • Cute Sleeves - Most characters with oversized sleeves have them to mark them out as "cute" (this might come from young children wearing oversized clothes that they're expected to "grow" intonote  or inherited from an older relative).
  • Oversized Sleeves - Oversized sleeves from ill fitting clothes may mark the character out as too poor to afford clothes that fit or too odd to care enough about it.
  • High Class Sleeves - Conversely, long sleeves on properly fitted clothes can mark the wearer out as rich, since they can afford such an impressive outfit and they are unaffected by the impracticality of long sleeves because they rarely need to do any work with their hands.
  • Sneaky Sleeves - Long sleeves can be used to show that a character is untrustworthy, hiding something, just plain creepy, or at the very least mysterious. This tends to be associated with Inscrutable Oriental characters (and is a staple of the outfits of Yellow Peril villains). Sneaky Sleeves tend to be combined with hoods, and are often worn by wizards.
  • Loaded Sleeves - The character in question has some sort of Hidden Weapon up his sleeves (most commonly a large Blade Below the Shoulder that normal sleeves would be unable to completely conceal). Magic users can also use their sleeves as a medium through which they cast spells for the same effect. If the sleeves are weapons, rather than simply hiding them, it overlaps with Clothing Combat and Cloth Fu.

Keep in mind that there tends to be a lot of overlap between these subtropes (hence why they don't have their own pages). In particular, examples of hidden weapons tend to fall into other types as well, especially "cute" ones (for this reason, there's an unsurprising trend of big sleeves appearing on Badass Adorables). Sneaky Sleeves and Loaded Sleeves also go hand-in-hand for obvious reasons, although one does not necessarily entail the other.

The traditional clothing of several cultures features oversized sleeves, and even now, some people prefer long sleeves over gloves, making this trope Truth in Television.

Contrast Sleeves Are for Wimps. Compare Conspicuous Gloves.

Examples:

    Anime and Manga 
  • In One Piece, Caribou's shirt has very long sleeves that extend past his fingertips. He can turn the tips of his sleeves into a mud-like substance (thanks to the power of his Swamp-Swamp Fruit) and use them to spew copious amounts of mud at people. He's also a deranged psycho who likes to bury his enemies alive and kidnap people with his mud power.
  • Afro Samurai featured a Yellow Peril styled assassin amongst the ones the Empty Six hired to kill Afro. He played the "hidden blade" version of this trope to the hilt.
  • Bleach;
    • Cyan Sung-Sun has extremely long sleeves that she always uses to cover her mouth and hide her weapon, making her sleeves a cross between the "high class" and "hidden weapons" variants. Traditionally, it was improper for a Japanese woman to show others the inside of her mouth, and the fact that she keeps her weapon hidden up her sleeve in a literal version of Silk Hiding Steel only reinforces the traditional-Japanese-woman vibe she gives off.
    • Luppi hides his hands inside his slightly oversized sleeves half the time. It's a combination of "cute" and "creepy". Considering his androgyny, boastful attitude, and belligerent creepiness, it basically serves to make him less likeable.
  • In Lucky Star, Akira Kogami wears "cute" oversized sleeves as part of her Deliberately Cute Child persona, although she's really a total bitch.Yutaka is a straighter example of the “cute” aspect of this trope.
  • Xerxes Break of Pandora Hearts wears a coat with oversized sleeves that immediately mark him as a quirky character who is hiding something, and sure enough, he's one of the sneakier (and creepier) characters in the series. He also tries to invoke the “cute” aspect of this trope, but most people just think it's weird.
  • The ridiculously powerful witch Varete from Witch Hunter pairs this trope with Detached Sleeves. They're "High Class Sleeves" mixed with "Loaded Sleeves" in that they tend to add to her regal and elegant bearing. While she doesn't hide any weapons in her sleeves, she has the ability to control any and all shadows, including the ones under her sleeves, so she's technically storing potential weapons there.
  • Luki and Noki from Dogs: Bullets & Carnage wear matching coats with oversized sleeves. These sleeves serve two purposes: 1) making them even more adorable than they already are, and 2) hiding the truly monstrous weaponry that they keep stored in their artificial arms.

    Film 
  • Dopey from Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs wears an example of the "cute" and "odd" types, helping to mark him out as the Comic Relief.
  • Fievel Mouskewitz in An American Tail has these thanks to his oversized red jersey, which fits him into the "cute" and "poor" types.
  • Mickey Mouse has these as the Sorcerer's Apprentice in Fantasia. In this case, they serve to emphasize his inexperience.
  • In The Phantom Menace, Queen Amidala of Naboo wears voluminous and obviously high quality robes with massive sleeves in order to match the expectation that one of her station should appear imposing and dignified. In later films, the gowns she wears as a senator are more practical, though just as gorgeous.
  • In Shinobi: Heart Under Blade, the live-action adaptation of Basilisk, Yashamaru wears floor-length sleeves that hide his Razor Floss. From a filmmaker's perspective, the sleeves had a practical use: Yashamaru's wires were animated with CGI, which is expensive, and so simply having him whip these massive sleeves around when fighting up close took away the necessity of animating each individual wire.

    Live Action Television 
  • Jennifer Love Hewitt's character Sarah Reeves from Party of Five wore the "cute" variation and helped popularize this trope in America.
  • Skye in Agents Of Shield wears these when relaxing on The Bus. It's a combination of "quirky" and "cute", with a touch of "deceptive".

    Tabletop Games 
  • In Dungeons & Dragons, module WG4 The Forgotten Temple of Tharizdun, the PCs can find robes with very long sleeves. The robes and their oversized sleeves are useful later in an extremely cold underground area the party must explore, because if their hands are exposed, they'll get frostbite.

    Video Games 
  • Uriko in Bloody Roar 2 wears oversized jackets that hide her hands, at least until she turns into a Cat Girl, which causes her arms to grow considerably. They're an example of "cute" sleeves, and considering how the sleeves hide her hands, which become claws, they're also "Loaded Sleeves".
  • BlazBlue has the Kaka clan, a race of Attack Animal creatures wearing oversized hoodies with long sleeves that are actually closed at the ends, although there are slots for their claws.
  • Zant of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess has massive sleeves that nearly reach the floor, with tassels hanging down even farther. In his boss battle, he reveals he has blades hidden up them.
  • Sanzang Fashi (otherwise known as Genjo Sanzo) of Warriors Orochi has massive sleeves which she uses as weapons. The fact that they completely conceal her hands piqued Okuni's curiosity in Warriors Orochi 3 and led him to provide us with the page quote.
  • Hsien-ko/Rei-Rei of Darkstalkers is a Chinese Vampire who wears a Cheongsam with long "funnel" sleeves that cover every part of her arms except the ends of her massive claws. And as if those weren't enough, she uses her sleeves to hide a number of other weapons.
  • Rider from Puyo Puyo has GIGANTIC sleeves. She's shy and kind, and is sometimes depicted in-game as using said sleeves to cast her storm-based spells, possibly to whip up the the air for her wind-based spells. It's also worth mentioning Rider is not human, causing many to believe her sleeves are hiding claws and/or inhuman arms.
  • In Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, the "cute" variant is used by Larry Butz. His "happy" animation has him pull his hand into his sleeve and let the sleeve droop down as he waves his hand back and forth. This is always accompanied by a Blush Sticker.

    Web Animation 
  • In TOME, Alpha wears a shirt with sleeves that cover his hands. It falls under the "cute sleeves" variant, and, coupled with a scarf that occasionally covers his mouth, it is mostly used to emphasize his shy and unassuming personality.

    Webcomics 
  • The real bandits in Hero Oh Hero both have large sleeves as part of their armour, combining this trope with Tin Tyrant. They seem to hide their weapons up them and their magic is projected from the cuffs.

    Western Animation 
  • Numbuh 3 from Codename: Kids Next Door wears a green sweater with overly long sleeves. She's also an innocent, ditzy, and simple-minded girl.

    Real Life 
  • The "cute" and "high class" subtropes are common components of various outfits (with the former being mainly used on casual wear and the latter on formal wear).
  • Long sleeves with weights in them were actually considered concealed weapons in some parts of the world and carrying one is still a felony in three states.
  • Water Sleeves (Shuixiu) are extremely long sleeves used in Chinese Peking opera. They are used to exaggerate the actors' mood, and individual gestures convey different meanings. Watch them in action here.
Community Feedback Replies: 88
  • June 21, 2012
    randomsurfer
    It's also used for the Fu Manchuesque Inscrutable Oriental-in-a-Kimono stereotype.
  • June 22, 2012
    Arivne
    Tabletop RPG
    • Dungeons And Dragons, module WG4 The Forgotten Temple of Tharizdun. The PCs can find robes with very long sleeves. They'll need them because an underground area they must explore is very cold and if their hands stick out of the sleeves they'll get frostbite.
  • June 22, 2012
    TonyG
    Some male examples:
  • June 22, 2012
    Bisected8
  • June 22, 2012
    animeg3282
    I think it's used a lot in wizards.
  • June 22, 2012
    Duncan
    Popularized in America with Jennifer Love Hewitt's character on Party Of Five.
  • June 22, 2012
    NimmerStill
    ^^^^, ^^^^^; so, not almost Always Female?
  • June 22, 2012
    Wii
    Cyan Sung-Sun of Bleach, who takes it a bit further: she almost always has a hand to her mouth (even when fighting; this being a universe where almost everyone, including her, uses some kind of sword), so the overly long sleeve conceals her face, as well. In fact, we never even see her hands.
  • June 22, 2012
    Mauri
    I'd make a note that it is NOT that the hand hiding sleeves are always female (it is a lie, put it on kids). It is perhaps a matter of choice and when in real life you buy or get given a sweater and or coat a few sizes up to your own. My raincoat hides my hands and yet I like it.
  • June 22, 2012
    NimmerStill
    ^Clarify please.
  • June 22, 2012
    Noah1
    Numbah 3 could be the page image.

  • June 22, 2012
    NimmerStill
    ^Your link didn't have the relevant image. But Google Images finds it fine.

    Eiko from Final Fantasy IX is this as well.
  • June 22, 2012
    Noah1
    ^ Go to her section in the Character Sheet.
  • June 22, 2012
    NimmerStill
  • November 5, 2013
    Schezoroark
    I'd also like to mention that Rider from Puyo Puyo has GIGANTIC sleeves. She's shy and kind, and is sometimes depicted using said sleeves to use her storm-based spells in the games, most likely to whip up the wind-based ones. It's also worth mentioning Rider is not a human girl, so it may imply her sleeves are hiding claws or something.
  • November 5, 2013
    Generality
    Zant of The Legend Of Zelda Twilight Princess has sleeves that reach nearly to the floor, with tassels hanging down farther still.
  • November 5, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    trope image, hands down.

    unless someone can top her sleeves' sheer length?

    She's Sanzang Fashi (otherwise known as Genjo Sanzo) of Warriors Orochi. and sleeves are her weapon ingame, and they completely conceal her hand, something that piqued Okuni's curiosity in Warriors Orochi 2.

    *there's also Anime Chinese Girl Uriko of Bloody Roar who wears oversized jackets that completely hides her hands. Bisected by Bisected8...
    • Hsien-ko/Rei-Rei of Darkstalkers is a Chinese Vampire who wears a Cheongsam with long, "funnel" sleeves that only reveals her... claws to accommodate her various weapons.
  • November 6, 2013
    DAN004
    This shouldn't be female only. And I kinda think that overly long sleeves sometimes (especially when it's not played for exoticism) signifies the wearer's less-than-healthy state of mind.

    • In One Piece, Caribou's shirt has very long sleeves that cover his hands. He can turn the tip of the sleeves into mud-like substance (per his power from the Swamp Swamp Fruit) and to spew copious amounts of mud. He's also a deranged psycho who likes to bury his enemies alive and kidnap people with his mud power.

    Contrast Sleeves Are For Wimps.
  • November 6, 2013
    Schezoroark
    Does the Pokemon Mienshao qualify, with its arm fur covering its paws like this trope? Its "sleeves" are weaponized like whips according to its Pokedex entry. Are there other characters that weaponize their sleeves?
  • November 6, 2013
    kjnoren
    Long sleeves have been in fashion in many different cultures and times, for both genders, in large part because they are impractical. They show the wearer is rich to afford indolent clothing, don't need to do manual labour, and look impressive.
  • November 6, 2013
    Paradisesnake
    When the sleeves are also used as a weapon, we have a case of Clothing Combat.
  • November 6, 2013
    Bisected8
    Is anyone actually still in charge of this (the OP hasn't made any edits on the site since September, and it seems that they haven't come back to this YKTTW since 2012)? I don't mind taking over as sponsor if nobody else's claimed it...
  • November 6, 2013
    BlueIceTea
    So this is only for characters whose long sleeves make them seem innocent? Then I suggest a big part of the reason is probably that children are often given over-sized clothes (either as loans from their parents, or in the hope that they will grow into them), and that these clothes tend to emphasise their size and thus their cuteness.

    The above point about sleeves as a sign of wealth no doubt qualifies too. And that might also be part of the reason the trope is more closely associated with females, as women almost always wear less practical clothing than men.
  • November 6, 2013
    Bisected8
    There's also the untrustworthyness angle (large sleeves imply someone's hiding something up them).
  • November 6, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^why not PM the guy and wait a bit?
  • November 6, 2013
    DAN004
    Is this Up For Grabs yet?
  • November 6, 2013
    DAN004
    • Straitjackets often has a very long sleeve, with their tips ending into the jacket itself.
  • November 7, 2013
    Arivne
    ^^ As Bisected8 already pointed out, the OP Awesome Zombie 22 hasn't posted to or edited this YKTTW since 2012. That means it's Up For Grabs by the rule on that page.
  • November 7, 2013
    kjnoren
    I think this is going at things backwards. We have identified at least three different meanings of extra-long sleeves (innocence/childishness, idleness/high status, untrustworthiness), and I imagine we can come up with more.

    I think it'd be better to place the meanings front and center, eg Sleeves Of Innocence, Sleeves Of Status, and so on; maybe they should be a little more general like Clothing Of Innocence et c.
  • November 7, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    Hand Hiding Sleeves is already general. though the meanings should be in the description.
  • November 7, 2013
    Bisected8
    Well, as far as I can tell, Awesome Zombie 22 hasn't posted for months and hasn't had anything to do with this YKTTW for over a year.

    I'll go ahead, claim this and start adding the examples/tweaking the description (but I've sent them a PM to let them know, should they show up).
  • November 7, 2013
    Bisected8
    Could someone elaborate on the FFIX and "Numbah 3" examples?
  • November 7, 2013
    kjnoren
    ^^^ It isn't so much general as having (at least) three different meanings. To me, that's three tropes in one.
  • November 7, 2013
    Chabal2
    Lucky Star: Akira wears these as part of her cutesy Kawaiiko act.
  • November 7, 2013
    Bisected8
    ^^ I'm not sure that splitting it up would be practical. There seems to be a lot of overlap with the various traits that accompany them (I'm normally a splitter, but I think multiple trope pages might end up being redundant).
  • November 7, 2013
    TheTitan99
    I'm not fully sure if this example counts, as his hands art always in his sleeves, just sometimes...

    • In Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney, Larry Butz pulls his hands into his sleeves whenever he gets happy, having the sleeve droop down and wave back and forth.
  • November 7, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    i vote Internal Subtrope. they're easy to overlap too. e.g. the Lucky Star example above is normally childish, but is actually mean and acts like an old irrelevant actress past her prime. (cute + untrustworthy)
  • November 7, 2013
    Bisected8
    I've tried breaking the third paragraph into subtropes. Does that look better or worse?
  • November 8, 2013
    DAN004
    • Numbuh 3 from Kids Next Door wears a green sweater with overly long sleeves. She's also an innocent, ditzy and simple minded girl.
  • November 8, 2013
    TooBah
    • Skye in Agents Of Shield has this in comfortable moments on The Bus. It's a combination of "quirky" and "cute."
  • November 8, 2013
    Bisected8
    Phew, I think that's everything from the comment backlog added to the description.

    Does anyone have any thoughts on page images/quotes or the name? Or index suggestions.
  • November 8, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^ teh bullets are good.

    Real Life
    • Water Sleeves (Shuixiu) are extremely long sleeves used in Chinese Peking opera. they function as both dance props and for dramatic exaggeration for actors. example of these babies in action.
  • November 8, 2013
    Paradisesnake
    Loaded Sleeves should probably be linked to Nothing Up My Sleeve.
  • November 8, 2013
    lexicon
    I don't see a difference between Loaded Sleeves and Sneaky Sleeves.

    • The large sleeves of Queen Amidala in The Phantom Menace, along with the voluminous outer robes and the large headdresses, are used to create the image of someone imposing. As senator her gowns that cover at least her wrists are more practical but just as gorgeous.
  • November 8, 2013
    xanderiskander
    Web Animation
    • TOME: Alpha wears a shirt with sleeves that cover his hands combined with a scarf that occasionally covers his mouth. It falls under the cute sleeves variant, and is mostly used to emphasize his shy, and unassuming personality.
  • November 8, 2013
    Bisected8
    ^^ Sneaky Sleeves is about characters being untrustworthy, Loaded Sleeves is about weapons hidden in sleeves. I thought about making them the same subtrope, but it's possible for a character be frank about their weapon of choice, or not appear outwardly untrustworthy, even if they invoke the latter (there are examples of cute or rich characters who use the loaded subtrope but not the untrustworthy subtrope, for example) and someone who's untrustworthy doesn't necessarily have a hidden weapon.
  • November 8, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^^ sneaky sleeves is just a visual indicator of untrustworthy characters, they don't literally (usually) have anything under their sleeves. and loaded sleeves means they simply hide stuff inside and is no indicator of them being untrustworthy. but they could obviously overlap with each other and the other subtropes.
  • November 9, 2013
    DAN004
    Hsien-Ko of Darkstalkers is not sneaky at all, for one. =P
  • November 10, 2013
    Bisected8
    So, no suggestions for quotes or page images (one which showed more than one subtrope at once would be ideal)?
  • November 10, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^ isn't this simply about long sleeves? also, the Sanzang example shows Cute & High Class(she's a celestial) plus Cloth Fu.

    quotes:

    Okuni: Please, Lady Sanzang... I really want to see your hands!
    Sanzang: Okay, very well. Once you see them, you will have to marry me though.
    Okuni: You'll happily show your navel, but it means marriage for your hands? You definitely have something up your sleeve, don't you!"
    Exchange from Warriors Orochi 3

    pardon the silly potholes on "seeing hands". i couldn't find the trope for "an innocuous action that gets you in an Accidental Marriage", even if it was mentioned in Accidental Marriage.
  • November 10, 2013
    Bisected8
    True, but you can only infer "cute" and "high class" from the picture.

    Ideally the page image should give as broad an idea of what long sleeves can imply as possible (multiple characters with different types of long sleeves would be even better).
  • November 10, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    So you're saying a trope image like in Mood Swinger but with each type of sleeves? kinda hard to find examples that imply only one...
  • November 10, 2013
    Bisected8
    More like an image with either more than one person or one person who fits as many of the subtropes as possible, not multiple shots of the same person.

    Again; that's an ideal. If an image can't be found this can always have a thread in Image Picking.
  • November 10, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    that's exactly what i'm saying. i just picked the wrong article but it's the one i remembered to have something like that.
  • November 11, 2013
    DAN004
    Maybe like in Peek A Bangs where there's a pic for each type of the trope?
  • November 11, 2013
    Bisected8
    That could work (although with 5 subtropes it would look a little untidy).
  • November 11, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    the edit i had up there was just me trying to put a trope image i whipped up in a labelnote aaaand... it doesn't work. so here

    trope image 

    editing this post or showing all markup should reveal the code.
  • November 11, 2013
    Bisected8
    It would probably just be easier to link to the image via its URL than try to embed it.

    Which of the subtropes is each character meant to represent (remember "characters who are X" doesn't work; it needs to use "characters that are clearly X")?

    EDIT: It just occurred to me that the best thing to do might be to use a character for each subtrope except cute, and simply have them all represent the "cute" subtrope (that way the image could be a manageable, easily labelled square made up of four characters and still represent all five of them).
  • November 11, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^ was trying to keep the markup intact. i don't have it saved anywhere. but you're right

    if you're axing cute, that's a bit hard. the bleach girl (she's here, and the only entry in bleach, forgot the name) is anything but cute. but she most certainly is sneaky.

    an alternative would be Xerxes Break of Pandora Hearts. he's also a guy and acts rather cutesy. but he's easily the most "sneaky" characters in PH. bonus points for having White Gloves when he does show his hands. (also, might wanna add him in the description)

    anyway
    • Hsien-ko is Loaded, see that saw?
    • Yutaka Kobayakawa (pink haired girl) is Oversized (she's sickly and a Cloud Cuckoolander)
    • Uriko (the one in gym sweater) is... Cute, ax her.
    • Sanzang is High Class, fancy clothing.
    • Bleach girl is Sneaky, looks scheming.

    original pics.
  • November 11, 2013
    DAN004
    Shanghai Slave's pic is awesome.
  • November 11, 2013
    Bisected8
    Well it looks OK, at least (how I wish captions would parse properly on YKTTW). It's still a bit hard to tell which is which trope without the caption, though (Yutaka and Sanzang could both be mistaken for "cute", for example).

    I still think a four part "all cute" image might be a better use of space, though. Does anyone else have any thoughts?
  • November 11, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    i linked to the pics so you could ya know, whip one up yourself? also why i mentioned Xerxes Break. he could replace bleach girl.

    so in the end, the ones who'll be left will be Yutaka, Hsien-ko, Sanzang, Xerxes. who are all in a way, cute.

    also, i find the currect pic to be hilariously wide, or is the YKTTW page just that narrow?
  • November 11, 2013
    DAN004
    350 px is the max width of any pic.
  • November 12, 2013
    Bisected8
    Yep, the current image is within the standard size (I'm more worried about it being too long).

    I think the YKTTW's supposed to be sized so the article appears as it would look on a low res monitor.
  • November 12, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    wasn't worried about the size being nonstandard. iirc the system doesn't even accept anything beyond standard.

    it's just it wraps the article too much, ruining formatting.
  • November 13, 2013
    Bisected8
    Well, as I said; a shorter image should fix things (I was going to throw something together yesterday, but a few things came up).
  • November 13, 2013
    Erivale
    I see a whole rats nest of grammar problems in the examples list, as well as fewer and more minor ones in the description. Can I go through them and correct everything?
  • November 13, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^ there is the rule Repair Dont Respond...
  • November 13, 2013
    Erivale
    ^ that's for in articles, where if you see something, you fix it, not post a sub bullet beneath the original bullet saying "Hey, what that guy said up there was wrong." Here, I am asking permission. I'm being polite.
  • November 13, 2013
    Bisected8
    Just go for it; YKTTW entries can be edited as freely as articles.
  • November 13, 2013
    Erivale
    Done. I did remove one and a half real life examples, as they didn't seem to fit, and added a pair of my own. I think the pic could use a bit of work — content wise it's fine, but a few of those (especially the Cute one) could do with a bit better quality. Not necessary, though, and I suck at image editing, so I'm not doing anything about it.

    And with that, I'm adding a hat.

  • November 13, 2013
    Bisected8
    Well, if three people agree the page image is OK, we might as well keep that one.

    Any thoughts on the title (I think Hand Hiding Sleeves works perfectly well, personally) or a quote (the one Shanghai suggested also seems adequate, but I won't discount the possibility that there's a batter one out there).
  • November 13, 2013
    hevendor717
    Also in Bleach, Luppi hides his hands inside his slightly oversized sleeves half the time. It's a combination of #1 (cute) and #3 (since he can fight with tentacles instead). Although, considering his androgyny, boastful attitude, and belligerent creepiness, it basically serves to make him less likeable.
  • November 13, 2013
    Erivale
    ^^ It's fine, but I'm thinking maybe we can switch out Sung-Sun from Bleach with Xerxes Break from Pandora Hearts. Sung-Sun looks, to me, more dignified and composed than anything. In that pic, Xerx looks pretty sneaky.

    And I just whipped something up fast with photoshop: Here

    trope image  Just like with Shanghai's pic, click edit or show all markup.

    And the current policy is that quotes are pretty much out for Trope Names. Hand Hiding Sleeves works for me.

    Also, does anybody mind the examples that I removed?
  • November 13, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^ awesome image choice on Xerx. though i find the My Friends And Zoidberg treatment in the filename rather hilarious.

    i don't understand "And the current policy is that quotes are pretty much out for Trope Names" though. where in administrativia is that?

    also, can't seem to spot the edits YKTTW's history section. i blame the fact that it's pretty clunky as it doesn't really show changed lines.
  • November 13, 2013
    Erivale
    I got rid of something for detached sleeve cuffs. I think. The example was so badly written I wasn't sure what they were trying to say, but it referred to gauntlets, which wikipedia tells me is a fashion thing where people wear detached sleeve cuffs. Not this trope, and even if it is, something that badly written would need serious reworking before it could be put on the wiki.

    Administrivia on new names is at No New Stock Phrases. To save you the read, it says, "do not name a trope after a Stock Phrase or line of personal (in-character) dialogue." It's kinda shitty, but I agree with it for the most part because it prevents potholing. Which is needed, sadly. Otherwise, we get shit like this. Seriously, read description, read examples. Now, I'm sure that something that bad won't happen to this article because it's well defined, etc., but still, it's a good policy to have for the most part.

    Either way, though, Hand Hiding Sleeves is a good name, right?

    Also, with Shanghai's approval, we have two votes for a new pic. Can we go for three?
  • November 13, 2013
    Bisected8
    Looks good to me, consider the third vote cast and the picture switched out.

    Also, I meant a Page Quote. >_>;

    EDIT: Shifted the page quote we have to the top of the page.

    EDIT 2: Huh, did you remove it for some reason, Erivale?
  • November 13, 2013
    Erivale
    Accident. I was adding an example, and you must have moved it before I was done, so my addition undid your move. I moved it back. It's a good quote.

    Also, I'm thinking we add Creepy to the Sneaky Sleeves description. Like, make the first sentence, "Long sleeves can be used to show that a character is untrustworthy, hiding something, mysterious, or just plain creepy."
  • November 13, 2013
    Bisected8
    Good point. Gimme a second...

    EDIT: I removed the "Type" numbers too (I didn't notice them before). They only lead to violations of Type Labels Are Not Examples.

    EDIT 2: Purged the mentions of "Type X". They've been out of style (guide) for a while now.
  • November 13, 2013
    Erivale
    Oh, shit. I put those in there to make things easier for me while I cleaned that up and forgot to take them out. Thanks for getting that.
  • November 13, 2013
    Bisected8
    Well...that's the quote, page image, Three Rules Of Three and description satisfied.

    Has anything slipped my mind, or are we done here?
  • November 13, 2013
    Erivale
    Is that list of images up at the top there for a reason, or is it just there so we can keep track of things?

    Also, do one of you guys want to do the crosswicking, or should I? I don't mind.
  • November 13, 2013
    Bisected8
    It's just a list of potential images.

    Tell you what, I'll launch it then sort out the indexes. Then I'll start crosswicking from the top of the examples list.

    If you start crosswicking from the bottom then we'll meet in the middle (or 2/3 up the page, or whathaveyou depending on how quickly it goes).
  • November 13, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    good to go i guess. any further typos we should probably leave to Wiki Magic.

    @ Erivale

    Oh, i see. btw, i already live by the rule of No New Stock Phrases. your wording just confused me.
  • November 13, 2013
    Erivale
    ^^ Actually, you mind if I go from the top? I'm familiar with most of the animes and films, but not so much with the others.
  • November 13, 2013
    Bisected8
    I'll hit launch now. Let's...come up with a sleeve related pun and pretend I used it.
  • November 13, 2013
    Erivale
    Right. Nice working with you guys.
  • November 13, 2013
    Bisected8
    OK it's launched, set to a work page, indexed and had the custom title request submitted. Let's get crosswickin'!
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