Created By: mystery on September 4, 2013
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Feminism Justifies the Hate Dom

When fans use feminism to justify hating something.

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Fans will often dissolve into long, heated arguments about their favorite shows, films, books, etc. Hate Dom is often prevalent during this discussions, since all fans have something they dislike, and fans will often use anything at their disposal to justify why something is "wrong" or "poorly written." One of the more common argument used by fans is to state that the character, film/show/book/other or plotline that they dislike is bad because its "sexist". Sometimes this is a valid point, especially when the item under discussion is blatantly sexist, such as a screaming damsel in distress character who is constantly treated as a prop. Sometimes, however, the fandom will simply use this trope to justify hating someone who is only a mild version; a character whose sexism is debatable, and could be seen as a decent role model. Or using feminism to justify hating a story where it is only used mildly. Either way, this trope is in play: fans are using feminism to justify their hate.

Community Feedback Replies: 9
  • September 4, 2013
    FastEddie
    This would serve no purpose except to attract misogynists like flies to a dung heap. Nothing about it helps us understand storytelling tropes. It is just a complaint about poorly made arguments online.
  • September 4, 2013
    kjnoren
    Can also be summed up as haters gonna hate, and if they lack a reason they will find one or make one up.
  • September 4, 2013
    mystery
    Perhaps it can be a page that just defines the term, with no examples. Its just a trope I've noticed in a lot of Hate Doms where people try to insult a character (especially one who's not a glaring example of sexism). On a number of other pages (especially Ship to Ship Combat), people cite a lot of fans who insult one love interest by calling them "wimpy" or "a bad example for women", and that character is mostly just less Action Girl than the other love interest. I agree its kind of sexist, its just a trend I've noticed popping up a lot from fans, especially fangirls.
  • September 4, 2013
    KingZeal
    This is something that should not exist, because what is and isn't sexist, racist, xenophobic, homophobic, does not preclude people from having an opinion on it. Some people, for example, don't see Angry Black Man as racist, or don't see specific examples of it as racist because it's "justified". Who is right and who is wrong doesn't matter. There should not be a trope, page, or anything that makes accusations against people who raise a point.
  • September 4, 2013
    Paradisesnake
    Pretty much all the aspects of this phenomena are already covered by tropes like Faux Action Girl and Real Women Dont Wear Dresses anyway... So yeah, no thanks to this Flame Bait.
  • September 4, 2013
    mystery
    Okay - Its just a trend I noticed. Maybe if I reworked it a little - I mean, I'm a girl, and a feminist, and I don't think its a good thing; I've just always thought tropes weren't supposed to be inherently good or bad, just things that exist in media and fandoms. Stuff like "The Scrappy" and "Creator's Pet" are unfortunate tropes and parts of Hate Dom, but they have tons of examples, many of which use this sort of concept to justify why the character is The Scrappy. I'm willing to discard it, I just want to make it clear that it wasn't my intention to be offensive.
  • September 4, 2013
    MsCC93
    I think this should have no examples.
  • September 4, 2013
    stormeye
    It's pretty much Complaining About Shows You Dont Like, this would be an excuse to do so.
  • September 4, 2013
    xanderiskander
    The only place this could possibly end up is the Darth Wiki. If a mod doesn't end up just cutting it completely that is. Because even without examples it's a prime example of Flame Bait, and Complaining About Shows You Dont Like. We've already had too many problems with those kinds of pages already.
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