Created By: MacronNotes on June 26, 2013 Last Edited By: MacronNotes on July 21, 2013
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The Evil Eye

A glare that can cause injury or bad luck to the recipient.

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This is part of the effort to fix Evil Eye (now Magical Eye).

The Evil Eye is a glare or look that can curse, inflict suffering, or bring bad luck to anyone who has the misfortune of receiving it. It's thought to be supernatural or magical in nature, so the person giving it could be a sorcerer or witch. The person who possesses the evil eye are usually characterized as being envious, hateful, or devious. In many countries and cultures, talismans, necklaces, bracelets, and charms are worn to dispel and protect from the evil eye. Some protective talismans are even believed to reflect the glare back to the person who inflicted it.

It's not to be confused with Magical Eye, when the eyes themselves have magical abilities.
Community Feedback Replies: 26
  • June 26, 2013
    Seiryu
    You might want to put in some description to differentiate this from Death Glare. Just looking at the title, one might be confused for the other.
  • June 26, 2013
    OlafMerchant
    From Mythology of the Celts:

    • Balor, king of the Fomor giants (sometimes known as 'Balor of the Evil Eye') had this going for him.
  • June 26, 2013
    Paradisesnake
    ^ First of all, that's a Zero Context Example.

    And secondly (@OP), where goes the line between an eye that "can curse, inflict suffering, or bring bad luck" and one that "has magical properties"? If the eye can supernaturally cause suffering, how is there not magic involved?
  • June 26, 2013
    OlafMerchant
    Allrighty, sorry, not in my a-game today.

    Mythology

    • Balor of the Evil Eye, king of the Fomors- anyone caught in it's gaze would perish. Eventually, he is slain when Lugh, his grandson, takes out the giant's eye with either spear or slingshot, depending on the version of the story.
  • June 26, 2013
    Larkmarn
    The difference between this and Magical Eye is... unclear. Seems like this is an offensive Magical Eye? That seems tough to discern.
  • June 26, 2013
    Chabal2
    See also Eye Beams and Death Glare.

    • Leer, Mean Look and Glare, three Pokemon moves that lower defense, prevent escape and paralyze respectively.
    • Commissar Yarrick has a bionic eye concealing a high-powered laser specially made for him after defending Armageddon from an ork invasion, as the orks thought him able to kill with a glance.
      "If the orks believed he had an evil eye, then by the Emperor, an evil eye he would have!"
    • One of the bosses in Wario World turns you into a balloon if you happen to be looking at its eyes when they Turn Red.
  • June 26, 2013
    MacronNotes
    ^^^^ I'm going to go fix that.

    ^^ Well, with evil eye, the glare itself is supernatural, not the eyes. Magical Eye requires the eyes be magical or have powers. Is that a substantial difference?
  • June 26, 2013
    Paradisesnake
    ^ That's not a difference at all. For example, how can you possibly distinguish whether it's Medusa's gaze or her eyes that turn people into stone (not counting the version, where you have to gaze on her face)?
  • June 26, 2013
    DennisDunjinman
    Don't we already have a trope called Evil Eye?
  • June 26, 2013
    Larkmarn
    ^^ Agreed. That didn't clarify it at all, since if the gaze is supernatural, it's coming from supernatural eyes. It's like a separate trope for Eye Beams and Eyes That Can Shoot Beams.

    ^ Yes, but it's recently been split/renamed into Magical Eye.
  • June 26, 2013
    MacronNotes
    ^Sorry, should have thought about a clear difference more. Anyways, it look like No Eye In Magic and Deadly Gaze are related to this concept
  • July 16, 2013
    johnnye
    OK, let's see

    Is there anything this trope could describe that isn't covered by one or more of those? They already seem to overlap a lot.
  • July 16, 2013
    DAN004
    And so this trope would be the Missing Supertrope.
  • July 16, 2013
    Melkior
    I'd say that the difference is that The Evil Eye doesn't have to be literally an "eye" while Magical Eye does. The Evil Eye can be a look (with either one or both eyes), or a token which represents an eye or eyes. Both are magic, but Magical Eye is literal and can be used for good while The Evil Eye is more symbolic and is generally believed to be evil.
  • July 16, 2013
    DAN004
    ^ Does that mean the Millenium Eye (actually an artifact) from Yu Gi Oh count?
  • July 17, 2013
    Melkior
    ^ I know almost nothing about Yu Gi Oh and literally nothing about Millennium Eye, but I think this question can be resolved by adding one more qualifier to the definition for Evil Eye: The Evil Eye has to be activated or used by a person. If it's an artifact, it can't act independently.

    Also if the Evil Eye is an artifact, this trope becomes a subtrope of Artifact Of Death.
  • July 17, 2013
    Larkmarn
    Can't we just... not have this trope? I know it's a catchy name and all, but we're desperately struggling to find something that fits that is covered by other tropes.

    And if we do find something, because of the multiple existent definitions for "Evil Eye" it's going to see misuse one way or the other.

    I see no reason to have this.
  • July 18, 2013
    Melkior
    ^ I think you're overlooking the fact that we obviously need this trope, by whatever name, to prevent the misuse of the former Evil Eye (now Magical Eye) trope.
  • July 18, 2013
    Larkmarn
    Why? Just red link it. Creating something (especially in this case, where all indications show it's not going to be something of value) won't stop people from wicking it, seeing it's a blue link, and calling it good. The page could be about mooks that happen to look like eyeballs, and the page could be perfectly clear, but people will still misuse it if they assume they know the meaning.

    Also... what trope are you referring to? Because there doesn't seem to be any sort of consensus as to what this trope even would be. Creating an ill-defined, probably duplicate trope is what's going to create misuse.

    Alternatively, just turn it into a disambig.
  • July 18, 2013
    DAN004
    @ Melkior: I'd need an example from you for what counts as an "Evil Eye", then.
  • July 21, 2013
    Melkior
    People used to talk about gypsies "putting the evil eye on" someone. Although I'm not certain of the details, it seems clear that "the evil eye" was a reference to a curse, cast by looking at someone. So I think that should be the laconic. "A curse which is cast by intent, usually by looking at the target".
  • July 21, 2013
    Melkior
    ^ That should be the definition in the description. The Evil Eye is not a literal eye, but a curse which is cast by sight. I'd expect that this would include it being cast by magical sight such as through an eye-symbol and there may be some overlap with Magical Eye, but this does seem to be a separate trope.

    My previous descriptions were my attempt to resolve what everyone else was saying about the trope. The above is my honest belief on what the trope should be if it's going to continue under this name, regardless of what the description currently says.
  • July 21, 2013
    DAN004
    "but a curse which is cast by sight".

    Deadly Gaze or No Eye In Magic?
  • July 21, 2013
    Melkior
    I'd say this would be a subtrope to No Eye In Magic and either sister trope or supertrope to Deadly Gaze.

    It seems I'm doing most of the talking here. I'm willing to take over the trope if the original sponsor has abandoned it.
  • July 21, 2013
    SeptimusHeap
    Is this a terminology definition or a trope?
  • July 21, 2013
    Larkmarn
    My thing is I don't see how this is different from those, so much as a proposed alternate name to it.

    And either way, it's just going to create more misuse. Evil Eye had to be renamed because the name was too vague and confusing, due to multiple colloquial definitions of the word. Given that, why would The Evil Eye fare any better? Especially since we would now have a separate trope about magical eyes.

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