Created By: asbjfalfkj on July 12, 2011 Last Edited By: asbjfalfkj on July 19, 2011
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Bug The Judge

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So you were a Hopeless Auditionee and you somehow managed to get through to the semi-finals, to the point where the contestants get voted on by the audience. What is the best way to ensure getting through to the next round? Why, annoying or pissing off the judge who doesn't like you, of course!

This can happen in both fictional works and in a Reality TV show in which people are being judged. It also happens in shows that that take place in court. This is generally something of a Refuge in Audacity.

In a Reality Show the judge in question is almost assuradly going to be the Mean Brit.
Community Feedback Replies: 25
  • July 12, 2011
    asbjfalfkj
    Admittedly it is sucky and all over the place at the moment, but that is why it is here and not being put up right away. I'm rather bad at thinking of examples as well, so if anyone could help me, that would be amazing.
  • July 12, 2011
    Aielyn
    1. How is this a trope?

    2. Needs A Better Title, severely.
  • July 12, 2011
    TwinBird
    1. Don't put anything up right away (except works and indexes). This page is an editor, not a ghostwriter.
    2. Don't directly mention works in trope titles.
    3. Don't name things after quotes unless they evoke the trope well.
    4. What?
  • July 12, 2011
    asbjfalfkj
    @Aielyn

    1. It is something that happens quite a bit in reality tv shows.

    2. Very true. The title is a working title, of course.
  • July 12, 2011
    asbjfalfkj
    @Twin Bird

    1. Of course.

    2 and 3. It is a working title, it needs to be changed.

    4. What?
  • July 12, 2011
    Aielyn
    I'm sure it happens quite a bit in reality tv shows. But TV Tropes isn't about reality, it's about storytelling devices, techniques, etc.

    Simply put, this isn't a trope, as far as I can see. Why? Because it is nothing but "oh, on a reality TV show, someone went on and offended a judge". I'm sure it happens quite a bit. But that it happens a lot doesn't make it a trope. It has to have intent on the part of the show's creators, or a purpose. If there were a whole segment dedicated to people trying to offend one of the judges, it might come closer to being a trope.

    In short, it has No Plot Significance.
  • July 14, 2011
    asbjfalfkj
    I agree that it doesn't have plot significance. However, on TV Tropes, we do have many such tropes that are YMMV or Trivia that don't have plot significance. This can easily be one such trivia trope.
  • July 14, 2011
    robybang
    Most reality TV is so filled with Manipulative Editing it might as well be considered fictional. Besides, we have an entire index of reality TV tropes. However, this seriously needs a new title. Maybe Bug The Judge?

  • July 14, 2011
    KhazemiElmirAmarna
    This is a shoddy extension (Not even a subtrope) to Elimination Houdini, which it actually mentions is the description. Although if it does pass through, "Bug the Judge" is a far superior title.
  • July 14, 2011
    WarlordofFryingPans
    Definitely change the title to Bug the Judge.
  • July 14, 2011
    pokedude10
    My vote for Bug The Judge makes three.
  • July 15, 2011
    TwoGunAngel
    Fourthing Bug The Judge.
  • July 15, 2011
    Clevomon
    Yeah, Bug The Judge has my vote.
  • July 15, 2011
    Xtifr
    Bug The Judge sounds like a trope for legal dramas, but maybe that's ok. Maybe it should even be expanded to include courtroom settings.
  • July 15, 2011
    Aielyn
    Actually, if it were to be expanded to cover cases like courtrooms, etc, then I'd be all for it. The case of Reality Shows with judges and contestants would then merely be some Real Life Live Action TV examples.

    I could also see it covering cases where it happens with judges coming to look at each entry, like in a cooking contest, or a christmas lights contest, in fictional settings. Then, I'd call it a solid trope, and actually have plot significance.
  • July 17, 2011
    asbjfalfkj
    OP here. I changed the title of the trope and am all for the changes that have been suggested. Does anyone have any ideas as to examples for said fictional settings or courtrooms? I'm wondering how the coutroom part would be integrated as bugging the judge is generally a bad idea and doesn't really fit the Refuge In Audacity theme.

    @Khazemi Elmir Amarna It's not in the description of Elimination Houdini, but nonetheless it is still a major part of the Elimination Houdini strategy, obviously.
  • July 17, 2011
    Aielyn
    Someone else will need to elaborate on it, but Bug The Judge happens frequently in Boston Legal.
  • July 17, 2011
    WarlordofFryingPans
    If it happens in courtrooms, the Casey Anthony trial may count. MANY people thought she was guilty of killing her child, but the jury voted otherwise.
  • July 17, 2011
    Aielyn
    In what way did that involve bugging the judge? That just sounds like it's a case where the jury disagreed with public opinion.
  • July 17, 2011
    katiek
    The Vinny character does this a lot in My Cousin Vinny
  • July 18, 2011
    randomsurfer
    This happened occasionally on Night Court, especially in episodes where they had to go through 100 cases in one night (or some such) leading to a Terrible Defendants Montage.
  • July 18, 2011
    Xtifr
    Real real life example: in the Microsoft anti-trust case, Microsoft's courtroom antics, evasions, and blatantly forged evidence eventually annoyed the Judge to the point where he publicly complained. Microsoft was able to use this as the basis for an appeal. Basically a case of "we've bugged the judge so much that he can no longer be considered impartial".
  • July 19, 2011
    Fanra
    Actually, if it were to be expanded to cover cases like courtrooms, etc, then I'd be all for it.

    This doesn't happen in Real Life, as seen in the My Cousin Vinny example most judges are rather high and mighty about their job and courtroom and throw people into jail and fine those who disrespect them.

    The amazing thing about Night Court was that Harry actually had a sense of humor in his court. Which got him into trouble with the other judges quite a bit.

    As per the Microsoft example though, I guess it is the usual case of Screw The Rules I Have Money.
  • July 19, 2011
    Shnakepup
    Possible issue with the name: when I saw "Bug The Judge", I thought it meant planting a bug on a Judge (i.e. listening device). Nobody else thought this?
  • July 19, 2011
    Aielyn
    Fanra - in Real Life, you're right - judges wouldn't tolerate that sort of behaviour at all. But in many works of fiction, the protagonist seems to be able to get away with it in one way or another. And in a few cases, like Boston Legal, the lawyers often end up punished in some way for what they did... but they are still successful in getting their client a desirable result because of their actions.
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