Created By: Sledgesaul on May 3, 2012 Last Edited By: Sledgesaul on February 26, 2013
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Sliding Scale of Girlness

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What defines a girly girl? What defines a tomboy? What specific traits differ the two? We'll list 'em here.

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  • May 3, 2012
    HeartOfAnAstronaut
    Isn't this just... most women?
  • May 3, 2012
    lexicon
    Looks like Short Tank but with too much variety.
  • May 3, 2012
    Serocco
    Those are just the Bleach examples. Any more will help.

    Short Tank is a strictly tomboyish girl. Not a Tomboyish Girly Girl.
  • May 3, 2012
    Dawnwing
    I had a similar idea in a YKTTW that got no replies, which I had no idea how to develop better. Feel free to use some ideas from there, since I don't really plan to take that one any farther.
  • May 3, 2012
    cathstuart
    Is this really anything other than a particular handful of anime characters? It sounds ridiculous.
  • May 4, 2012
    Serocco
    Those are just the first few the sponsor came up with. Additions are appreciated.
  • May 4, 2012
    HeartOfAnAstronaut
    But isn't this People Sit On Chairs because you could apply it to almost any female character who isn't just a 2 dimensional stereotype? Most characters are either Tomboys with some Girly traits or vice versa, e.g

    Lily and Robin from How I Met Your Mother, Lisa Simpson, Hermione Granger, Eliot, Carla and Jordan from Scrubs, all the women from Sex And The City except Charlotte, Jane Eyre, most of the Bennet sisters from Pride And Prejudice, Jen from The IT Crowd, the three female leads from Happy Endings, Claire Bennet from Heroes, River and Kaylee from Firefly, most of the girls from Buffy The Vampire Slayer except Cordelia (I haven't seen Angel), Athena and Artemis from Greek myth, Roz and Daphne from Frasier, Misty from Pokemon, all the girls from Friends, Leela and Amy from Futurama, Jordan from The Great Gatsby, Britomart from The Faerie Queene, Lady Gaga, Angelina Jolie, Ramona Flowers from Scott Pilgrim, most characters from Bridesmaids except that one lady who got nominated for an oscar, both the Gimore Girls,

    Almost every feminine character would fit this, whether they're girly girls who like sports, tomboys who have a weakness for cute boys, women who work in an industry such as fashion or bakery but are very ambitious, blushing shy girls who are karate masters, tough female spies who have caring, nurturing personalities, a ruthless lawyer who will flirt her way out of trouble... It's like listing all the male characters who don't fall into Jerk Jock or Nerds And Geeks.

    I'd argue that we only need tropes that involve specific combinations of the two, e.g. a Femme Fatale combines exaggeratedly feminine (beautiful, seductive, graceful) and masculine (ambitious, ruthless, desires money and power) qualities.
  • May 4, 2012
    darkclaw
    I agree with the above. Any character regardless of their gender, probably has masculine and feminine traits. A character needs both for the audience to enjoy them. For example, a heroic Action Girl can kick lots of ass and know how to fight (things often considered "masculine") but she still needs to show she's a hero, so she helps people and is kind to others (helping and kindness are often considered "feminine"). Even if the gender is changed, it is still the same. In general, people (and therefore characters) have traits of both "masculine" and "feminine". In the above post, many female characters are shown to fit this.

    You could easily also make a "Sensitive Manly Man"; but almost any male character would fit that from Batman helping kids and beating up criminals to Lelouch being a bishonen badass who is ambitious and manipulative.

    To summarize, if this trope was made, it would be filled with almost every female character except for Flat Character types who are specifically designed to be only feminine. It would be similar for the gender inversion.

    Maybe this could be an example-less page to point out that female characters usually have masculine and feminine traits.
  • May 6, 2012
    lexicon
    I agree that we only need tropes that involve specific combinations of the two. Femme Fatale, Lady Of War, Spirited Young Lady, Short Tank and any other tropes that are boyish and girly can be on the index.
  • May 6, 2012
    Serocco
    Maybe this could be the Super Trope?
  • May 7, 2012
    HeartOfAnAstronaut
    I don't think we need a Super Trope, we have the Always Female index which lists all the character types lexicon listed plus more.
  • May 7, 2012
    lexicon
    Maybe we could have a list of all the tropes that are male or female that are a mix of masculine and feminine?
  • May 7, 2012
    Sligh
    Hey, I think I have a way to solve the whole Do We Need This One vs. People Sit On Chairs you guys got going on here. What if we transform this on the "Sliding Scale of Girl's Girliness"? From straight Tom Boy on one side of the spectrum to Girly-Girl on the other. This WOULD need a lot of Wiki Magic, though.
  • February 25, 2013
    Sledgesaul
    Huh, that's a good idea. Sliding Scale of Girlness.
  • February 25, 2013
    Ironeye
    We really don't need another sliding scale, though. They tend to attract bad examples, use arbitrary orderings, and duplicate functionality that is better-used elsewhere. In this case, Tom Boy and Girly Girl already have long lists of tropes associated with them, which means that the sliding scale would just turn into a platform for people to fanwank about how Femme Fatale is more/less girly than Spirited Young Lady.
  • February 26, 2013
    lexicon
    I agree with Ironeye about the sliding scale but I still think we could have an index of tropes that clearly mix the feminine with the masculine.
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