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Sometimes evil is the best way to go - at least when you are trying to make money - but that isn't always the case. Sure if you keep the populace uneducated and you block the internet you may have a state that is less likely to riot in the short term. You may be able to tax your people an unreasonable sum in order to make money. Maybe you can loot one of your neighbors once in a while when cash is low. Who would disagree that this isn't a profitable idea? Well, just about every caring ruler out there would disagree. Kindness towards your people will pay off more in the long-term. Sure it may cost money to build those schools, roads and police stations, but having a good education system, better transportation routes and security is good for the long term. This isn't due to capitalism, communism, or any form of government. It's common sense. If your people are able to earn a substantial amount of money through a job that requires education through an economy that's connected to many foreign countries, then you can get more revenue in taxes. Attacking your neighbors costs money. You have to pay for that military force don't you? Plus, if you can't beat your neighbors or their allies, then you have a serious problem on your hands. Whereas Videogame Caring Potential is similar to this trope, it doesn't always pay off in $$$. Exporting that surplus of oil to a country that needs it is going to pay off more than say, sitting on it to watch that country suffer. Good diplomatic relationships and good internal PR go a long way. Reducing squalor, building parks, designing sports arenas and constructing defensive structures goes a long way to improving that PR and the better PR you have the more you can tax without starting a riot. The people are happy, you are happy and the money is flowing. Contrast this trope to Evil Pays Better. Compare it to Videogame Caring Potential and Cut Lex Luthor a Check. Often this type of system relies on the Power of Trust. The latter of which takes inventing things instead of common sense management. Related to Rousseau Was Right. See also Mercy Rewarded. No Real Life Examples, Please! as calling someone "good" almost always involves calling someone else "evil" which is equivalent to a personal attack and an invitation to a flame war.
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- In Medieval II: Total War, there is a point where you can make enough trade agreements to cause valuable good prices for merchants skyrocket. Building structure that add protection (like wall), provide entertainment (like race tracks and inns), provide security and law (like the Mayor's house and garrison quarters), and other such structures raise the people's happiness. Providing them places to work (like farms), places to trade (like ports and markets), and structures to increase said trade (like shipwrights and roads) will increase profits by a substantial amount. If you use loyal, non-corrupted, and smart family members run cities, you can increase public happiness further. All this means is that population growth will accelerate and you can get away with charging higher taxes. Everyone wins!
- In The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, there is a mission near the end of the game where you need to ask all the city rulers to send soldiers to protect the capital. Each ruler will assign you a mission that you need to finish first. If you go the extra mile and complete all the optional objectives, you will get more units to help fight and better rewards.
- In Fallout 3, there is a mission to help a strange woman make a handy survival guide. If you risk life and limb to make a very informative book and tell her honestly about your results, you will make a better book and get a bunch of extra rewards, the least of which being people giving you free stuff in gratitude for helping save their lives.
- Fallout: New Vegas: There are a lot of opportunities to do both good things and evil things, and there are rewards for both. However, there is a general trend of higher rewards for more effort so often times the evil route is a shortcut with limited rewards and the good route is more rewarding in the long term.
- In the Old World Blues expansion several optional sidequest to aid members of the Think Tank will result in an easy way to end the expansion without bloodshed. If you do you can continue to take advantage of the extra caps, magazines, and energy cell they give you every day whenever you go back to The Sink.
- Helping the Brotherhood of Steel with their internal conflicts will net you power armor training, something you would otherwise not be able to get until much later in the game.
- Increasing your Freeside rep by helping The Kings or The Followers will result in members of The Kings periodically approaching you and giving you free stuff.
- Increasing your rep with any major town will result in better prices at their stores. The best way to do this is to go out of your way to help people in that town (defending Godsprings from the Powder Gangers, getting a new sheriff for Primm, etc). In contrast the evil option would be to just murder everyone. This will allow you to loot the place, but deny you the additional merchants which can be more harmful in the long run.
- Increasing your rep with the Followers of the Apocalypse will first get you some free healing items everyday, and later get you an honorary membership which gains you access to their safe house. You do this by helping them provide aid to the people of Freeside, cleaning up drug addicts, fetching medicine, helping refugees, and other act of humanitarianism.
- In Quarry Junction a man will straight up pay you after the fact if you fix the town's pet molerat's leg and/ or fix their generator. The evil option (killing the molerat and wrecking the generator) will only net you molerat meat and scrap.
- In StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty, one of the first missions involves fleeing Mar Sara. At certain points in the mission, stranded survivors will call for aid. If you go to retrieve them with enough forces, you can end up with a positive net gain in saved resources. Similarly, in the mission where you bail out Narud, it is almost impossible to win the mission on hard mode if you don't bother to search and save the surviving mercenaries scattered around the map. This happens again when you fight in the underground caverns on Char where rescuing lost terran units (especially the firebats) is almost a must. In-universe, helping Tosh and Ariel Hanson will free many dissenters and intellectuals who opposed Mengsk and help humanity in it's search for a cure for infestation respectively.
- In BioShock, rescuing Little Sisters gets you less ADAM than harvesting them, but you'll get extra rewards that cannot be obtained otherwise (like the almighty Hypnotize Big Daddy Plasmid).
- In the Civilization series of games [at least the first three, I haven't played any versions beyond that], the Republic and Democracy forms of government place some restrictions on your foreign policy (harder to initiate or sustain a war effort) and support for military units, and your populace gets discontented quicker when you are engaged in war (even those not initiated by you)--not exactly easy for a player bent on conquest (at least early and mid game), compared to Despotism, Monarchy, or Communism. But the economic benefits of these government forms (especially Democracy) is astronomical, to the point that late in the game the player can still pay for a large military (with advanced technology paid for with more money that can go into research or tech trades) if they're so inclined, and become a formidable superpower. Or they're more likely to achieve the technological victory (first ship to Alpha Centauri).
- Come Mass Effect 3, taking Paragon choices throughout the Mass Effect series results in far greater war assets than Renegade choices. Justified since Paragon Shepard is, in general, much more conciliatory than Renegade Shepard and is thus much better at building alliances.
- An annual mini-game festival event in The Lord of the Rings Online has a storyline where you can either choose to help homeless townsfolk, or help the mayor and festival organizers who exploited them. If you help the mayor, he rewards you with some fancy clothing. If you help the townsfolk they reward you with ragged old clothing -- but about a month later, when they're presumably all doing well for themselves again (and when most players have already stopped thinking about the festival), they send you something really nice and extravagant.
- In ReBoot, Dot Matrix was able to stop the Crimson Binome's pirate raid by parleying with him and his accountant. After showing him that his pirate profit margins were lower than her own rates for honest cargo hauling, she hired him and his ship.