Created By: Lyendith on August 30, 2012 Last Edited By: Lyendith on September 14, 2012
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Destroy And Recreate

The villains want to erase this world to recreate a brand new one

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While The Hero tries to save the world, it sometimes happens that the villains also want to save it… in their own way. They do want wars to cease and humans to stop being bastards, to eliminate sadness and misery. They just think it's already too late, humanity has gone too far off the deep end, and the only way to create this ideal world is to erase this one first and restart everything from scratch.

The method to recreate the world will vary, it may involve the activation of some MacGuffin, the resurrection of some Divine entity or an Adam and Eve Plot. The villains will also often want to keep a few survivors chosen among some kind of elite, which will usually include themselves; but they may also be willing to be part of the "sacrifice".

On the contrary, it can also be a way to create a world at the villain's own image, fully under their control.

Compare Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds and Necessary Evil.

Related either to Utopia Justifies the Means or Despotism Justifies the Means.

Examples

Anime and Manga
  • In Fullmetal Alchemist, the heads of Amestris' army consider themselves as the future elite of the new world, and one general invokes this trope, saying that the Amestrian people will continue to live within them after they are turned into philosopher's stones. In reality, not only do they not give a crap about the lowly people, but the Big Bad just wants to become a God and has absolutely no intention of giving the generals immortality.
  • A more figurative example: Lelouch's Badass Boast in Code Geass is "I am the man who destroys worlds and creates them anew", reflecting his struggle to destroy the Britannian world order and create a more peaceful one for his loved ones to live in.

Film
  • James Bond films
    • The Spy Who Loved Me. Karl Stromberg considers civilization to be corrupt and decadent, so he tries to start a nuclear war between the U.S. and U.S.S.R. When the dust settles, he will create a new and beautiful world beneath the sea.
    • Moonraker. Drax considers civilization to be tainted and disorderly. He plans to kill all human beings on Earth except for his select few.
    First there was the dream, now there is reality. Here in the untainted cradle of the heavens will be created a new super race, a race of perfect physical specimens. You have been selected as its progenitors. Like gods, your offspring will return to Earth and shape it in their image. You have all served in public capacities in my terrestrial empire. Your seed, like yourselves, will pay deference to the ultimate dynasty which I alone have created. From their first day on Earth they will be able to look up and know that there is law and order in the heavens.

Video Game
  • The Angels and Father Balder in Bayonetta seek to resurrect Jubileus so that She can reunite the Trinity of Realities (Paradiso, Inferno and the Human World) and recreate the world from scratch. That would of course involve killing every single living thing in the current one.
  • The heads of LOA in Ninja Gaiden 3 have such a goal, using a purified Dragon Sword and the blood of the Dragon God (i.e. Ryū's blood) to create a "Goddess". The chairman of LOA has a a long Motive Rant about this just before you finish him off.
  • Implied to be Alduin (The world eater)'s job in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Paarthunax actually questions the hero for trying to stop the next world for coming about.
  • In Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, This is the ultimate goal for Team Galactic leader, Cyrus.
  • In Tales of the Abyss this is the ultimate goal of the Big Bad. He wants to kill everyone and replace them with replicas, who aren't bound by the Score, as revenge for the destruction of his home, Hod.

Webcomic
  • In Order Of The Stick, this is one possible outcome of the plan drawn up by The Dark One, the deity who precides over the goblins. He wants to use the Snarl, an Eldritch Abomination with god-killing, world-destroying power, to coerce the other gods into giving goblins a better lot in life, but if that fails, he will unleash the Snarl and use it to destroy the planet, forcing the gods to remake the world. Since the Dark One has been elevated to godhood, he will have a say in how the new world is built, and will create goblins who are equal to the other races instead of fodder for low-level adventurers.

Western Animation
  • In Gargoyles, Demona's deepest desire is to destroy all humanity to create a world where gargoyles rule and sees herself as the true savior of the gargoyle race. It is a matter of debate whether Operation Clean Slate would've killed her or not. (Magic spell linking her to an immortal human, long story.)

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  • August 30, 2012
    CobraPrime
    • Implied to be Alduin (The world eater)'s job in The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim. Paarthunax actually questions the hero for trying to stop the next world for coming about.
  • August 30, 2012
    Koveras
    • Lelouch's Badass Boast in Code Geass is "I am the man who destroys worlds and creates them anew", reflecting his struggle to destroy the Britannian world order and create a more peaceful one for his loved ones to live in.
  • August 30, 2012
    CharacterInWhite
    • This is essentially Lelouch's motivation in Code Geass, though his plan to execute it is simply to conquer the biggest nation in the world (Britannia) and unify the globe under one banner where he's in charge. No supernatural MacGuffin required.
  • August 30, 2012
    Astaroth
    In Order Of The Stick, this is one possible outcome of the plan drawn up by The Dark One, the deity who precides over the goblins. He wants to use the Snarl, an Eldritch Abomination with god-killing, world-destroying power, to coerce the other gods into giving goblins a better lot in life, but if that fails, he will unleash the Snarl and use it to destroy the planet, forcing the gods to remake the world. Since the Dark One has been elevated to godhood, he will have a say in how the new world is built, and will create goblins who are equal to the other races instead of fodder for low-level adventurers.
  • August 30, 2012
    Earnest
    This sounds like a subtrope of Utopia Justifies The Means.
  • August 31, 2012
    Lyendith
    ^ Indeed.

    Also, maybe we can admit different "scales" for the trope (world, country, city...)

    Wasn't there something like that in Neon Genesis Evangelion by the way? I didn't really understand much about the end of the series or even the movie, but...
  • August 31, 2012
    Lyendith
    In Pokemon Diamond And Pearl, This is the ultimate goal for Team Galactic leader, Cyrus.
  • August 31, 2012
    Avuai
    In Fringe, Walter Bishop's old science partner William Bell reveals this to be his motivation for collapsing their universe. He has already started constructing his own new universe and needs to collapse the one the main characters are in to complete it. We wants Walter to join him in this utopia, however... Because before Walter demanded parts of his own brain be removed by Bell, in a moment of clarity, to ensure he wouldn't do anything that could cause serious harm, it was his idea.
  • August 31, 2012
    GoldenDarkness
    Sometimes It Is Beyond Saving is a reason to destroy whatever, so something better can be built to replace it.
  • August 31, 2012
    acrobox
    What makes this different from Utopia Justifies The Means. By the description it seems like the same thing only truncated and paraphrased.

    Most of the examples are duplicates also...
  • August 31, 2012
    rodneyAnonymous
    Also compare Well Intentioned Extremist... seems like between that, Utopia Justifies The Means, Woobie Destroyer Of Worlds, and (do you mean?) Necessarily Evil, this is covered. I realize none of those are exactly the same as this, but what distinguishes it from being simply a combination of them?
  • August 31, 2012
    surgoshan
    Literature:

    • The Pale Woman in the Realm Of The Elderlings. Whereas the Fool wants to set time on a better path, she wants to destroy everything, eliminate all magic, and start again.
  • August 31, 2012
    SinisterShenanigans
    • In Tales Of The Abyss this is the ultimate goal of the Big Bad. He wants to kill everyone and replace them with replicas, who aren't bound by the Score, as revenge for the destruction of his home, Hod.
  • August 31, 2012
    miru
    Jedah Dohma from Vampire Savior
  • September 1, 2012
    Lyendith
    ^^^ Well, yes, it's a bit of a combination between all that (plus It Is Beyond Saving), but doesn't that make it a trope in itself?

  • September 1, 2012
    rodneyAnonymous
    One trope plus a second trope does not usually make a third trope. It is just two tropes.
  • September 1, 2012
    cygnavamp
    • In Death Note, Light plans to use the Death Note to first weed out all the criminals and the corrupt. Then, he will move on to the lazy and useless, allowing only those he deemed worthy to live, imagining himself the God of a new paradise.

    • In Gargoyles, Demona's deepest desire is to destroy all humanity to create a world where gargoyles rule and sees herself as the true savior of the gargoyle race. It is a matter of debate whether Operation Clean Slate would've killed her or not. (Magic spell linking her to an immortal human, long story.)
  • September 3, 2012
    Arivne
    Film
    • James Bond films
      • The Spy Who Loved Me. Karl Stromberg considers civilization to be corrupt and decadent, so he tries to start a nuclear war between the U.S. and U.S.S.R. When the dust settles, he will create a new and beautiful world beneath the sea.
      • Moonraker. Drax considers civilization to be tainted and disorderly. He plans to kill all human beings on Earth except for his select few.
      First there was the dream, now there is reality. Here in the untainted cradle of the heavens will be created a new super race, a race of perfect physical specimens. You have been selected as its progenitors. Like gods, your offspring will return to Earth and shape it in their image. You have all served in public capacities in my terrestrial empire. Your seed, like yourselves, will pay deference to the ultimate dynasty which I alone have created. From their first day on Earth they will be able to look up and know that there is law and order in the heavens.
  • September 4, 2012
    Arivne
    Web Comics
    • El Goonish Shive. In this strip, the Immortal named Pandora Raven threatens to destroy the world and replace it with one where her son will be able to freely interfere with mortals and make a difference.
  • September 4, 2012
    randomsurfer
    IIRC this is the plan of the Big Bads of Infinite Crisis - destroy New Earth and restore one of the better Earths from the DC Multiverse which got destroyed back in Crisis On Infinite Earths (which one is to be restored depends on which BB is being focused on).
  • September 5, 2012
    Astaroth
  • September 10, 2012
    Lyendith
    I'm really hesitant whether I should go on with this trope... it's definitely a specific pattern found in many works, but at the same time it does look like just a combination of several tropes... nearly every example given overlaps with another trope or even several... so this one may be superfluous after all...
  • September 10, 2012
    KingZeal
  • September 10, 2012
    WaxingName
    I don't think this is a subtrope of Utopia Justifies The Means. UJTM would be one possible motivation, but there are also Dystopia Justifies The Means, Despotism Justifies The Means, and Its All About Me as completely different motivations.

    Anyways,

    • This seems to be the plan of Count Bleck in Super Paper Mario, utilizing the Chaos Heart to do so, except that it is revealed later that Bleck was having a Suicidal Cosmic Temper Tantrum and planned on not recreating the universe at all. It later turns out to be the plan of Dimentio, instead, who is manipulating Bleck and the heroes to use the power of the Chaos Heart for himself and use Luigi as a vessel.
  • September 12, 2012
    TBTabby
    In Asura's Wrath, Chakravartin decides to do this when Asura refuses to be his vassal on Earth.
  • September 12, 2012
    Terabiel
    In the Heechee Saga, the Foe plan to do this to the entire universe... just to get rid of all the pesky matter, recreating the Universe as nothing but energy.

    And a real life example would be the way web-spinning spiders often destroy their own webs to rebuild them. Or any demolition project to clear ground. Or the way dolphin males will kill the young of their own kind so that they can then mate with the female.

    and no, this trope is definately not a subtrope of UJTM. I would think, rather, that UJTM is a subtrope of this. There are any number of reasons to destroy then create... many of them completely natural.
  • September 12, 2012
    Omeganian
  • September 14, 2012
    Arivne
    ^ Weblinks Are Not Examples.

    It's better to write an example in a standard format that people can read and understand.
  • September 14, 2012
    AgProv
    The aim of the Illuminati in Shea and Wilson's illuminatus! trilogy - to use the sacrifice of the world and its billions of people as a source of sacrificial energy, to propel a relative handful into immortality and a Brave New World of their own imagining.
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