Created By: neoYTPism on August 26, 2010 Last Edited By: neoYTPism on May 4, 2015
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Who was I kidding, a whole bunch of my YKTTW ideas were garbage. Now to nuke them...
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  • August 9, 2010
    MarqFJA
    Maybe if you provide some titles (preferably ones with relative [in]famy), we could get a better idea of what you're proposing here.
  • August 9, 2010
    Unknown Troper
    Penny & Aggie has one in the form of Karen. After her make over, she's well aware of her beauty and makes use of it for her own ends. Though, she was a one-man woman.
  • August 10, 2010
    neoYTPism
    I don't know the names of any examples though @ Marq PJA
  • August 10, 2010
    MatthewTheRaven
    How fat does the girl have to be? Just curvy, or very heavy?
  • August 10, 2010
    ParadiscaCorbasi
    • Holly Would from Cool World
    • Jessica Rabbit?
    • Mae West
    • Jayne Mansfield
    • Queen Latifah (especially her "Be Good To Mama" song from Chicago)
    • Sea Witch Ursula from Disney's The Little Mermaid
  • August 11, 2010
    bluepenguin
    ^ It's called "When You're Good To Mama".
  • August 11, 2010
    neoYTPism
    Mildly curvy will suffice @ Matthew The Raven
  • August 22, 2010
    MarqFJA
    @Paradisca Corbasi: Jessica Rabbit doesn't count as a Big Beautiful Woman, which is central to the proposed trope, as stated in the first line of the description proper.
  • August 22, 2010
    HawktureShorts155
    Yeah. I hope we're not viewed as ganging up on Paradisca Corbasi here, but he/she seems to have "big-breasted, big-hipped" women confused with "fat" women. They are two very different types. Holly, Jessica, and Jayne belong in the first category; Mae and Queen, in the second. As for Ursula, she isn't even a human being - and the only time she's able to use physical attractiveness to her advantage is when he takes the form of Ariel's evil double.
  • August 25, 2010
    Unknown Troper
    ...have there actually been bans for describing explicit content? I see that all around...

    At the very least, the image is quite annoying with context.

    And definitely not Jessica Rabbit. West and Mansfield were at most a tiny bit chunky; not like Queen Latifah, or Karen, or the anime woman above. I'd say Queen Latifah is the only one who belongs on that list.
  • August 25, 2010
    MatthewTheRaven
    @neoYTPism - define mildly curvy. Are we talking about has boobs, hips, and a thin waste, zaftig, Rubinesque, or you'd-have-to-be-a-chubby-chaser? We need a threshold. Is Queen Latifah our accepted international measuring unit?

    The woman in the picture doesn't look that heavy at that angle.
  • August 26, 2010
    neoYTPism
    "Mildly" curvy would be "slightly" above average weight, or at least above the average in the setting of the story. The overall point, here is that their curvy figure does not stop them from being seductive... preferably that it helps.
  • April 8, 2011
    MarqFJA
    Bump.
  • April 8, 2011
    peccantis
    We're not discussing anyone who fits the Hourglass Hottie mold, i.e. has a slim waist and abundant hind and foreparts. That's about as conventionally attractive as it can get.

    The trope is defined by rebellion against prevailing beauty standards regarding body weight and shape. Broken into crucial elements:
    • woman who has confidence in her attractiveness
    • and who flaunts her beauty
    • no matter how those around tell her that she is unacceptably fat and generally try to bring her down
    • bonus points if the criticisers are jealous of her curves or if any in the in-universe target audience announces that Bigger Is Better

    Thus, I suggest any woman on this list should qualify by either being clearly heavy or by being considered too heavy in-universe (no matter how far from actual obesity these characters might be). That would include such things as a normal weight schoolgirl gaining confidence in her perfectly normal and healthy body shape (with the perfectly normal and healthy amounts of fat around the hips and in the tummy etc.) despite the complaints and cruelty from the school's resident legion of mean, popular girls, who are all part of a Teenage Super Model Wannabe Weight Loss club and look like that.
  • June 11, 2013
    InTheMirror
  • June 11, 2013
    Larkmarn
    I feel like this is intrinsically part of Big Beautiful Woman. Adding this would dilute the existing trope (or rather, turn it into "There is a woman. She is larger than most" which isn't a trope).

    Now, the definition of the other trope could (and in fact should) be expanded, but I don't think we add this one. And if we do, the name needs to change. I don't blame the guy for suggesting Jessica Rabbit, since she would fit the name quite well. And "seductress" doesn't sound synonymous to "proud of her beauty." Because it's not.
  • My problem with this is how people today use the term "curvy" as a politically correct way of saying a woman is fat (which it appears some tropers here are doing), rather than what it used to always imply: simply that a woman had an exceptionally nice figure. Women are supposed to have curves, it's apart of nature.
  • June 11, 2013
    maxwellsilver
    We also already have Real Women Have Curves.

    Removing the hat.

    Discard.
  • June 11, 2013
    McKathlin
    ^^^ I agree with Larkmarn: Big Beautiful Woman already includes the attitude, so we don't need this.
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