Created By: Sugao on January 25, 2014 Last Edited By: Sugao on January 30, 2014
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Autopsy Bra

On the autopsy table, a woman's breasts do not fall into her armpits, so it looks as if she is still wearing her bra.

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Boobs are bouncy, jiggly, mobile things. They also tend to obey gravity without the help of a bra, and the larger they are, the more gravity affects them. If a lady lays on her back, they will tend to slide off to the sides of her chest and into her armpits, because breasts are largely sacks of fat only loosely connected to the muscle and bone beneath them.

Unless, of course, she's on an autopsy table on TV. If she hasn't already been cut open to avoid having to show any sort of breast tissue, her breasts will remain centered over her ribcage, just as if she were standing upright and perfectly healthy. She will also likely have a towel or similar draped over her breasts to keep the show Prime Time-friendly, but this is not about actually leaving a bra on the cadaver to maintain her modesty; it's about her breasts remaining in the "bra position" despite her being ostensibly naked beneath the towel.

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I know I've seen all those shows (and probably more) do this, but if someone else knows exactly which episodes contain it (as opposed to a male Body of the Week or pre-cut female), I'd appreciate them being noted.

Is This Tropable? or is it a chair? It's never called attention to (unless the camera gets a case of Male Gaze and decides to film the medical examiner from such an angle as to have his face in half the frame and her towel-covered torso in the other half) and never has a story-based reason, but it's so often there and it's one of those things that just bugs me (kinda like the way Misplaced Wildlife bugs a biologist). You notice it once, and then you're noticing it everywhere.
Community Feedback Replies: 23
  • January 25, 2014
    Generality
    I'd say this is part of a general trend to portray breasts unrealistically.
  • January 25, 2014
    DAN004
    And I'd say that this is rather... not that noticeable.
  • January 26, 2014
    theTwoFacedAngel
    Yeah definitely seems like chairs
  • January 26, 2014
    XFllo
    Definitely not chairs, because "chairs" are normal chairs in real life... this would be more like chairs arranged unrealistically, which is noticeable and might affect the story and how we see it.

    I'm not sure it's tropeworthy, though. You know, noteable and important enough to be listed.

    It reminds me a bit of one page about food and eating being often portrayed unrealistically. I keep noticing it in fiction once I read the page — They Wasted A Perfectly Good Sandwich.

    So I see where the OP got the idea, but I'm not sure it will fly.
  • January 26, 2014
    Larkmarn
    Definitely not chairs, at least. Might not be tropeworthy, but it's not chairs. Might fall under Beauty Is Never Tarnished.

    Did the YKTTW for "people in fiction are just more attractive in real life" ever get launched? Because it could definitely fall under that (IE fictional women's breasts are always shapely and perky, even when lying down in death).
  • January 26, 2014
    Paradisesnake
    ^ If you're talking about Rule of Cast Attractiveness, then no, it didn't.
  • January 26, 2014
    Shaoken
    This would fit better as part of an existing trope on unrealistic breast behaviour, plus the existing trope on bodies having their private parts obscured.
  • January 26, 2014
    jamespolk
    Not only is this not tropeworthy, it's gross. We do not need a page about how dead women's breasts are portrayed in visual media. Motion to discard.
  • January 26, 2014
    DAN004
    Even if it happens often, it doesn't carry much meaning...
  • January 27, 2014
    Arivne
    Unless this is a convention within a work that conveys some kind of meaning or information to the audience, by definition it's People Sit On Chairs.

    I can't see any such meaning/information in the description.

    How could this be a trope? If a woman's body demonstrating this meant that she was actually still alive.
  • January 27, 2014
    Larkmarn
    You know, I'm going to go ahead and say it falls under the Coconut Effect. People have assumptions as to what a woman's going to look like. Hence the use of this trope, because people wouldn't think that's what their bodies look like.
  • January 27, 2014
    frosty
    ^^^^ It's less gross than No Dead Body Poops. I do agree it's not tropeworthy, though.
  • January 27, 2014
    DracMonster
    It might be chairs in the sense that there's no way to do it realistically without using actual corpses. Like having an "impossible special effects are probably CGI" trope.

    EDIT: Or.. CGI. Duh.
  • January 27, 2014
    Generality
    I think what there is to this is covered by Drop Dead Gorgeous. But there's an element of this which is part of the general media trend to portray bodies in unrealistically beautiful ways.
  • January 27, 2014
    Cider
    It is not people sit on chairs because people sit on chairs. Breasts fall to the side when a woman lies on her back so if they do not on camera is as tropable as Chairman Of The Brawl. Now, as to whether Drop Dead Gorgeous already covers this or not is another debate.
  • January 27, 2014
    DAN004
    @ Drac Monster: So this would be an animation trope or something?

    And maybe the examples doesn't have to involve dead bodies, so long as the woman is lying down breast side up and without wearing bra.
  • January 27, 2014
    Shaoken
    ^That is already covered by the plenty of tropes on jiggle physics and Gianaxing.

    There's nothing Tropable about this. It's already covered under Drop Dead Gorgeous and Barbie Doll Anatomy, there are plenty of works that have women laying on their back with no bras on so their breasts act normally. This would best be covered as a note on the numerous death and autopsy tropes we already have (I could have sworn there was one dealing with the fact that autopsy corpses always have their genitals obscured, but I can't find it).
  • January 28, 2014
    Paradisesnake
    ^ You might be thinking Modesty Bedsheet, which has the following lines:

    Also occurs outside strictly sexual settings, when characters who really should be nude in the context keep their underwear on. Examples: a corpse on a slab in the morgue being nude except for the underpants, and bathing/showering with underwear or swimwear on, even when the character is alone.
  • January 28, 2014
    Shaoken
    Ah, thank you. So, five motions to discard and no hats. Pretty clear indication at this point.
  • January 29, 2014
    Shaoken
    And a hat magically appeared without justification. Or I missed it.

    Either way, there seems to be a very strong leaning that this should get discarded. I'm going to wait two days for anyone to put forward any kind of argument as to why it should still be kept around, and if nobody does that (I'll even take bad arguments) I'll move to discard.
  • January 29, 2014
    IndirectActiveTransport
    This is not covered by Drop Dead Gorgeous, at least not completely. A person who actually has experience with woman would more likely be turned on by breasts behaving realistically than staying straight up without aid of clothing. This could very well be a subtrope of Uncanny Valley (which should be a damn trope, its a psychological term with plenty of plot centric examples, not fan speak that should be restricted to audience reactions)

    It could also be a subtrope to reality is unrealistic, (I do remember a CPR class where someone had to ask about what do with breasts, possibly because of this trope) but this is not necessarily about dead bodies looking "good", just an unrealistic depiction of them. Get some more examples (and maybe elaborate on them) and I might give it a hat too.
  • January 29, 2014
    DAN004
    Now who the hell undiscarded this?
  • January 30, 2014
    Shaoken
    Turns up as discarded to me.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=3oqwq4vn0siyrzsiylmojzm7&trope=DiscardedYKTTW