NonviolentInitialConfrontation Nonviolent Initial Confrontation YKTTW Discussion
|Nonviolent Initial Confrontation|
Hero and antagonist first meet in public setting with no possibility of violence. Conflict is limited to insults and veiled threats.Better Name
Former Working Titles: We'll Settle This Later; Wrong Time and Place; Talk First, Shoot Later Mostly an espionage trope, but may crop up in crime fiction and other thrillers. The hero and an antagonist meet in public--a society function, a casino, a coffee shop or some other venue with lots of witnesses, (or other limitations, if that might not be enough--see the Highlander example below). Other times even a few witnesses of the wrong type will prevent combat from breaking out. The hero may know who the bad guy is, and the bad guy may know what the hero is doing, but under the circumstances just shooting each other is out of the question. Instead they duel verbally, with an implied--or even explicitly stated--"the next time we meet things will be different" vibe. The function of the scene is to build tension by establishing personal conflict between the two, not just mission-based conflict. In-story, the purpose of the scene is usually information gathering, and feeling out weaknesses of the opponent. Related to Overt Rendezvous. Subverted by Conspicuously Public Assassination. If a subordinate antagonist is involved and genders align properly, can mutate into Duel of Seduction. A Chance Meeting Between Antagonists might turn into this, but more usually at least one of those involved is seeking the other. A subtrope of Action Film, Quiet Drama Scene. Can easily set up We Meet Again. Not related to We Come in Peace — Shoot to Kill. A commonplace in James Bond films (and novels--Umberto Eco calls this the "First Check" scene in Ian Fleming's stories). Examples: James Bond films
- Goldfinger: the golf match between James Bond and Auric Goldfinger.
- Thunderball: the gambling scene between Bond and Emilio Largo.
- Never Say Never Again has a not surprising variation (as it used the same basic plot) with Bond and its version of Largo.
- You Only Live Twice: the "business meeting" at Osato's chemical company.
- Played with in For Your Eyes Only, where we don't realize it's happening, because we don't know the bad guy (Kristatos) is the bad guy yet.
- Octopussy: auction scene involving an backgammon game between Bond and Khan.
- A View to a Kill: the horse sale at Zorin's estate.
- The fencing match (where the sparring is more literal) in Die Another Day.
- In Batman Returns Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle are dancing at a public event when each figures out who the other is.
- Heat: the cop (Al Pacino) and the thief (Robert De Niro) meet at a coffee shop for a private conversation.
- Highlander: due to the rules about not fighting on sacred ground, the Highlander and the Kurgan have one of these in a NYC church.
- Subverted in Kill Bill (part 1), The Bride and Vernita Green (Copperhead) initially agree not to fight in front of Green's daughter. That doesn't last.
- In The Punisher (the Thomas Jane one) the Punisher is visited by an assassin while drinking coffee in a small diner. The assassin opens the large guitar case he brought with him, but it actually contains a normal guitar rather than a weapon. He sings a song with lyrics that just barely veil why he has come here. Afterwards, the assassin and Frank Castle talk, and both go their ways (until a later scene, when they actually fight to the death).
- Subverted in Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows: Irene Adler arranges a meeting with Professor Moriarty in a crowded restaurant, implicitly so that they can have a civilized conversation without anybody trying to kill anybody. At the end of the conversation, Moriarty casually reveals that everybody else in the restaurant is in his pocket, and there's nothing to stop him killing her if he wants to.
- A version shows up in The Shadow when Shiwan Khan breaks into the Shadow's hideout to ask him to join him in his plans of domination. Not public, but nonviolent.
- In the Grimm episode "Cat and Mouse", characters Detective Burkhardt (the hero) and Edgar Waltz (henchman to the Nebulous Evil Organization, the Verrat) agree to meet in a public place. Unbeknownst to Burkhardt, he's already met Waltz when Waltz was pretending to be a witness to a nasty murder he in fact committed. See Burkhardt figure that out is part of the reason that Waltz wants to meet him in person instead of just issuing his demands over the phone.
- Used in Burn Notice when Michael meets Victor for the first time in a chess park. The two trade veiled threats as a way of getting the measure of each other.
- In Jingo, the generals of the armies of Ankh-Morpork and Klatch meet for breakfast, snide remarks, and final demands on the battlefield with the intent of engaging in battle afterwards (though in that regard, things don't quite go according to plan).
- Shining Force has the hero encounter Elliot, an enemy general, in one of the towns. Elliot acknowledges that you are enemies, and says that your next meeting will be on the battlefield.
- In Bionic Commando, you meet up with General Killt in one of the neutral zones. Since nobody is allowed to attack in a neutral zone, he just bad-mouths you.
- In Toriko, the unexpected encounter between Toriko, Komatsu and Starjun at Bar Meria. At this point Starjun could probably have stomped them with ease, but states that he's just there looking for an ingredient, not a fight, and leaves peacefully.
- In a chapter of Mahou Sensei Negima!, Negi and Fate agree to meet in a public coffee shop to attempt a diplomatic solution. This ends up failing, however, when they begin arguing over whether tea or coffee are better and the proper way to make tea and almost come to blows because of it.