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Curious Qualms Of Conscience
A character feels qualms about something he thinks his duty.
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You are doing your duty -- you know it, you have been instructed from childhood in how to behave properly. Or perhaps you are just listening to something that was done. Properly.

So why do you feel like it was Dirty Business? It is inexplicable, even stunning and shocking, to feel this way about your duty.

The commonest cause is that the evil being done is to someone outside the purported scope of Moral Myopia. Although association with such people can trigger it, it is not required. Others may arise when a character raised to never give a sucker an even break feels guilty about cheating, or other times when cunning appears despicable.

Can lead to a Screw the Rules, I'm Doing What's Right or a curious Heel Realization where the character thinks he is becoming a Heel, but the audience thinks he is repudiating it.


Comic Book
  • A long time problem for Judge Dredd, as he's not always able to ignore that a strict interpretation of the law sometimes leads to injustice for individuals, even though it might be best for the society as a whole.
  • In Kurt Busiek's A Wizard's Tale, Rumplewhisker fights long and hard against doing the right thing because he's an Evil Wizard.

  • Huckleberry Finn thinks it his duty to turn Jim in, because it is wrong to deprive the widow of her property. Although unable to formulate the notion that it is wrong to betray Jim, he nevertheless decides not to do it, even if he goes to Hell for it.
  • In Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's The First Circle, a character reorders his life according to Epicurus, in order to make it actually happy by thinking about what to do, instead of hedonstically following his first impulse regardless of what misery it will bring. Then he impulsively warns someone that he's in danger, and so brings himself into the gulag. In his cell, he concludes that in spite of not being conducive to his happiness, it was nevertheless the right thing to do.
  • In Agatha H. and the Clockwork Princess, Wooster insinutes to Agatha that Gil's found another girl. After, he reflects: anything that separates the Wulfenbachs and the Heterodyne heir is to the good of England, so why does he feel like a cad?
  • In Poul Anderson's "A World Called Maanerek", Korul Waren hears that, when discipline problems mounted too high, the ship takes over part of a planet and hands over the locals to the men for rape and Cold-Blooded Torture. He feels afraid that the planet he had been left on was thus choosen, and even when he hears it was done before, he doesn't like it -- even though he knows that such things are necessary for the Hegemony to extend itself to take in more people, and so altruistic. He finally concludes he's gone insane and so acts insanely, rescuing a woman prisoner and then blowing up the ship after they escape.
  • Rana Sanga in Belisarius Series

Live-Action TV
  • Subverted in the Blackadder II episode "Head," where Edmund has been appointed Lord High Executioner and is reviewing the schedule of upcoming executions.
    Edmund: Admiral Lord Ethingham and Sir Francis Drake on Monday. snip Buckingham and Ponsonby on Friday. Oh wait a minute. Farrow on Wednesday. Who's Farrow when he's not having his head cut off?
    Percy: Ah, James Farrow, pleasant bloke from Dorchester.
    Edmund: Don't know him, never will either. Yes, and he goes on Wednesdsay?
    Percy: Hmm.
    Edmund: It's not right though, is it?
    Percy: Well no! I mean now you come to mention it, my Lord, there was absolutely no evidence against young Farrow at all! It was an outrageous travesty of justice!
    Edmund: No, it's not right that he should be on Wednesday when we could stick him in on Monday and have half the week off.
    Percy: Oh I see. Yes, that's right.

  • Invoked in the song "Habaes Corpses (Draconian Love)" by rapper El-P. The song is a conversation between two executioners on a futuristic "prison ship" in a bleak future. The narrator/protagonist is an executioner who's fallen in love with one of the prisoners he's scheduled to kill. At one point he turns to a friend and asks:
    El-P: Does this job ever bother you, darkly creep up in your concious too?
    Cage: Nope. In fact, I'm so enamored with this standard that being handed a command to [shoot], it's almost romantic. The lead giveth, I'd take it if I didn't understand it.
    El-P: I'm saying, during the tenure of your gig, have you ever herded a [prisoner], who despite the traitorous label, makes you nervous as a kid? Who maybe beyond a date with the lead, there's something else meant for her, a prisoner with the beauty of 247290-Z

Western Animation
  • In Avatar: The Last Airbender, Prince Zuko ends up questioning whether or not he really should capture Aang ( but decides not to undergo a Hell Face Turn, until he does). In the episode "Avatar Roku (Winter Solstice, Part 2)", there are also some monks who's order used to serve the Avatar but pledged their loyalty to Fire Lord Ozai, one of them decides to stick to tradition.
  • Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law covers this in "Droopy Botox". When Birdman manages to defend his client during a medical malpractice suit and leaves Droopy without compensation, he comes to this quandary. It becomes worse as he is promoted to Vice President in his agency and gets loads of money over someone else's misery because of his job. He spends a bit of time trying to apologize for this until he decides to just give Droopy his money.

Real Life
  • Conscientious objectors can serve as a real-life example. They often end up Taking A Third Option by refusing to participate in violence themselves, but volunteering for dangerous duties such as combat medic -- which do aid the war effort.

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