Created By: DragonQuestZ on August 30, 2012 Last Edited By: DragonQuestZ on September 9, 2012
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Recycled With Mecha

A derivative or follow up work adds mecha this time.

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Thinking of a better name, such as "Like This Show, But With Mecha", or something else.

There was an old TRS thread, that brought up splitting this off from Instant Awesome, Just Add Mecha, and this is just following that up.

Its Sister Tropes can be split as well if they have enough examples.

Rolling Updates.
You can't fit even one giant robot in a Victorian boarding house (A Little Princess), but you can fit plenty in an interstellar war (Soukou no Strain).

This is whenever a work isn't about Humongous Mecha, but a work that redoes the premise (usually a Spinoff, Spiritual Successor, or Follow the Leader), is largely about them.

Say there is an old fairytale about a good spirit that has to stop a horde of The Fair Folk from invading a village. Then someone makes an adaptation where the fair folk are aliens the pilot giant robots, and the good spirit turns out to be the only one who can pilot the Super Prototype and save Earth.

A Sub-Trope of Instant Awesome, Just Add Mecha (since the source work wasn't about mecha, and the new work throws it in), Recycled In Space.

Examples


Community Feedback Replies: 35
  • August 31, 2012
    TonyG
    Compare with Rent A Zilla.
  • August 31, 2012
    abk0100
    How did you miss the Japanese Spider Man series?
  • August 31, 2012
    Stratadrake
    • Ty The Tasmanian Tiger, as of its second installment, adds a variety of mecha (termed "Bunyips") as playable vehicles, and features them during both the initial and final levels.
  • August 31, 2012
    randomsurfer
    In the Marvel Comics toy spinoff and miniseries Mega Morphs Spidey, Captain America, the Hulk, Wolverine, the Thing, Venom, and Ghost Rider all have humungous transforming mecha designed by Iron Man which they use to battle Doctor Octopus, who has one of his own.
  • August 31, 2012
    MrRuano
    • ^^ Following the Marvel example was the Marvel/Transformers crossover, where Iron Man helped make the heroes giant transforming suits to help the Autobots face Megatron.
    • Kannazuki No Miko was actually based off of an older Kaishaku work known as Cross Triangle, but now with Giant Mecha named after Japanese Gods.
  • August 31, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    ^^^^^ Actually, that's already listed as a sister trope to Instant Awesome Just Add Mecha. If there are enough works that are closer to "Recycled with Giant Monsters", that would be a sister trope to this.

    ^^^^ Please don't ask how we missed an example. I freely admit that I used to do that as well, but now I know it's Word Cruft.
  • August 31, 2012
    abk0100
    I assumed you'd understand that you'd have to actually write the example yourself, and not just copy my comment directly into the draft.

    If I had meant for the actual example to be written that way, it has more problems than just word cruft (like the complete lack of content)
  • August 31, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ Well firstly, sometimes there is so much to add from comments, that copy-pasting is just more expedient, so a well-done example is preferred, even in a comment.

    Secondly, without context, then it's bad even without the wordcruft.
  • August 31, 2012
    abk0100
    I figured I did my part by pointing out a well-known example that you missed -- and that you wouldn't mind typing up the "In Japanese Spider-Man, Spider-Man gets a mecha from aliens or something" yourself.

    The Ninja Turtles anime might be another example, but I'm not sure if the Turtle Saint is technically a Mecha.
  • August 31, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ I give it's an example, but well-known? That's partly why asking why we missed is frowned on, as those asking are often under Fan Myopia, thinking their work must be known enough to list (yes, I am counting myself).
  • August 31, 2012
    abk0100
    I don't think asking someone how they missed an example in the comment section of a YKTTW is frowned upon -- it's only on the actual wiki that it's frowned upon -- but I don't want to derail the YKTTW with this anymore.
  • August 31, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    Well do you have any context to add to the example? That's always a good thing.
  • August 31, 2012
    abk0100
    you could spend a 30 seconds reading the summary on the page and do it yourself, but if you really need me to:

    • In the Japanese Spider-Man show, Spider Man gets his powers and costume from an ancient alien race, and gets a car and a giant robot to go along with them.
  • August 31, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ The reason why not is sometimes I've launched tropes when the ykttw's have had over 50 replies, so it's already a pain just trying to sort through that text and figure out what is an example from a discussion.
  • September 2, 2012
    abk0100
  • September 2, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ Neither of those really work. While Big O has inspiration clearly from Batman, Roger doesn't have a secret identity to fight crime so he can avenge a wrong in his youth. And piloting robots for one episode is not redoing a whole show premise with mecha.

    You're confusing this trope with its Super Trope.
  • September 2, 2012
    abk0100
    This is whenever a work doesn't have Humongous Mecha, but a sequel, follow-up, adaptation, Spiritual Successor, Follow The Leader, etc. does have it.

    Can you see where I may have gotten "confused"?
  • September 2, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ I fixed that sentence to reflect the definition better.
  • September 2, 2012
    KTera
  • September 3, 2012
    jbrecken
    How prominent does it have to be? Would something like the Matrix count, where a small army of mecha show up in the sequel for a couple of important battle sequences but otherwise aren't shown? Or for that matter, would the iconic power loader shown in Aliens count? It's not used in most of the movie but it's a scene that everyone remembers.
  • September 3, 2012
    SAMAS
    Wait, this sounds like a subtrope of Instant Awesome Just Add Mecha, which contains most of these examples already.
  • September 3, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    ^^ The premise has to be recycled, but with mecha being prominent. The Matrix sequels and Aliens have them, but they aren't really important to the setting.

    EDIT: I Changed the OP line to fix that confusion.

    ^ 1. It is listed as a sub trope. 2. The top of the OP explains this already.
  • September 4, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    "Ty The Tasmanian Tiger, as of its second installment, adds a variety of mecha (termed "Bunyips") as playable vehicles, and features them during both the initial and final levels."

    "In the Marvel Comics toy spinoff and miniseries Mega Morphs Spidey, Captain America, the Hulk, Wolverine, the Thing, Venom, and Ghost Rider all have humungous transforming mecha designed by Iron Man which they use to battle Doctor Octopus, who has one of his own."

    "^^ Following the Marvel example was the Marvel/Transformers crossover, where Iron Man helped make the heroes giant transforming suits to help the Autobots face Megatron."

    Since none of those is "the same premise, but with mecha", they just go in the Super Trope.
  • September 5, 2012
    JonnyB
    Would Starship Troopers 3: Marauder count?
  • September 5, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ Is it about mecha, or merely has them?
  • September 6, 2012
    JonnyB
    Merely has them.
  • September 6, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    Okay... if there is going to be this much confusion over the line between this and the super trope, perhaps it wouldn't be worth splitting.
  • September 8, 2012
    arromdee
    Sailor Victory is a recycled version of a date-sim with mecha added. (Incidentally, this series does not have either a Wikipedia page, or a TV Tropes page.)
  • September 8, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ I remember catching the anime years ago, and really liked it. I think I could make a page with enough info.

    BTW, do you have some info on the source game, so I can confirm it's an example?
    Also, what if I instead called this trope Same Show But With Mecha or Like This Show But With Mecha? Would that help clear some confusion up?
  • September 8, 2012
    abk0100
    Those names still make it seem like Big O would count. I still don't understand why it doesn't, actually.
  • September 8, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ What show is it recycling? And having similarities to Batman is not enough. It would have to be Roger being a millionaire vigilante crimefighter in a city loaded with criminals..
  • September 8, 2012
    abk0100
    The description isn't that specific. It mentions Spiritual Succesor and Follow The Leader.
  • September 8, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ Big O is still neither of those. Taking inspiration is not a similar work done by the same people, or a similar work to a hit work.
  • September 8, 2012
    arromdee
    BTW, do you have some info on the source game, so I can confirm it's an example?

    The ANN article which I linked to mentions the non-mecha videos are Graduation and Marriage, and the game they come from is Sotsugyou.

  • September 8, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ Okay, just googling that game showed a picture of the green-haired girl with the Mega Twintails. So it confirms it's an example.
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