Created By: FrodoGoofballCoTV on October 1, 2011 Last Edited By: Jess on June 9, 2014
Nuked

Not Quite Hime Cut

It would be a Hime Cut, except it is not done right.

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Trope
Early Development Phase

Preliminary concept inspired by this conversation. As with all my YKTTW's, Rolling Updates, probably Needs a Better Name, Needs a Better Description, Do We Have This, etc.
Normally a Hime cut is characterized by eyebrow - length hair in front, jaw - to - chest - length sidetails, and long hair in back, all cut perfectly straight across (as seen here).

This character has a hairdo that would be a Hime Cut, but it is slightly off. However, it is similar enough to a Hime Cut that it still evokes the trope. Typically, it is used for a character who is not quite the classic Hime Cut personality.

NOTE: this is not a list of every character with sidetails, long hair with bangs, or any other hairstyle that has anything in common with a Hime Cut. There needs to be a tie - in to the Hime Cut trope.

When considering adding an example, please observe the following:
  • Examples should be from either Japanese media or media with a clear Japanese influence, such as strongly Animesque Western Animation. (note: will include this if I get consensus to do so)
  • Check the related tropes listed below to see if it fits there first.
  • Examples should fit one of the variations listed. If your example doesn't fit, please bring it up on the discussion page first. (note: will include this if I get consensus to do so)

This page can describe and portray subversions of the characterizations listed in the Hime Cut page.

Related Tropes:
  • Hime Cut does allow for a fair amount of variation in the exact length, as well as a variant where there are two pairs of sidetails. Please see the examples here.
  • Tomboyish Sidetails combine the sidetails of a Hime Cut with short hair that's typically feathered or uneven.

Variations:
  • Feathered Bangs: The bangs are feathered rather than cut straight across. Perhaps the most common subtrope. This seems to be associated with girls who are modern on the surface, but have some private traditional elements to their life or personality. It also seems to be associated with type B (dere) Tsunderes.
  • Ragged Edges: The edges of each section of hair are ragged rather than cut perfectly straight accross. Since ragged hair often results from a character who is unable to tend their hair on a regular basis, this is often used to represent a formerly high - ranking character who's fallen on tougher times.
  • Short Hair: While all sections are cut straight across, the back is only neck or shoulder length, which might indicate a tomboyish character or a character with an unusual social class.

Feathered examples:

Anime and Manga:

Web Comics:

Ragged examples:

Anime and Manga:

Web Comics:

Short Hair:

Anime and Manga:

Other:

Anime and Manga:

Western Animation:
  • Some Avatar: The Last Airbender fans speculate Azula was attempting to give herself a Hime Cut and experienced an Epic Fail. However, given her state of mind, it's not clear if she herself knew what her intent was.
  • Van Kleiss from Generator Rex, who has long, straight, black hair with feathered/ragged bangs with a Skunk Stripe on each side and occassional strands draped over his shoulders.
Community Feedback Replies: 54
  • October 1, 2011
    captainpat
    "Typically, it is used for a character who is not quite the classic Hime Cut personality."

    You're gonna have to elaborate on this trope of personality this hairstyle signifies.
  • October 1, 2011
    FrodoGoofballCoTV
    ^Well, I'm hoping to get some Wiki Magic while still in YKTTW. That's why this one is still just a concept / Early Development Phase.

    Also the whole point of this YKTTW is to siphon off questionable examples from the Hime Cut page.
  • October 1, 2011
    Sackett
    I think the most common variation I've seen is the Hime Cut but with feathered bangs. This seems to be associated with girls who are modern on the surface, but have some private traditional elements to their life or personality. It also seems to be associated with type B (dere) Tsundere
  • October 1, 2011
    Pig_catapult
    Possible rare male example for the ragged variation: Kurama from Yuu Yuu Hakusho has very feathered hair, but it's still in the general "hime cut" shape, especially in his Youko form.
  • October 3, 2011
    Antheia
    For the description: Basically, most of the requirements for Hime Cut apply here. This is a Japanese trope, so examples have to be Japanese characters/characters from Japanese works, or maybe from Animesque works.

    You may want to put up a note in bold saying this is not for any character with sidetails and/or long hair with bangs. There has to be some connection to the Hime Cut trope. Basically, examples should fit one of the variations listed in the description (of course, more variations may be added to the description if we find enough examples). If someone wants to add an example that doesn't fit any of the given variations, they should bring it up on the discussion page.
  • November 14, 2011
    ChaoticNovelist
    Ayumi Yamada from Honey And Clover anime has the feathered variety. She's a art student at Tokyo University but also helps her family's liquor store.
  • November 14, 2011
    MiinU
    • Soi Fon is a combination of the short and ragged variants of this trope.
  • December 3, 2011
    Sackett
    • Kaname Chidori from Full Metal Panic has the feather bangs look. Is a tsundere and has some traditional elements hidden behind her modern girl surface.
  • December 4, 2011
    moocow1452
    Would Azula count in her Villainous Breakdown mode, or is that something entirely different?
  • December 5, 2011
    Irrisia
    There do seem to be a couple of examples on the original page about having a hime cut but tying it back most of the time. Usually, one assumes, because it's not really a practical hairstyle, or to show a mix of traditional and modern elements. Dunno if that's another variation you want to consider moving.

    Tsundere Miko-in-training Izumo from Blue Exorcist has the hime cut to go with her job, but keeps it pulled back most of the time.
  • January 7, 2012
    Sackett
    I think tied up examples, if they are a fully proper Hime Cut when let down, should go on the Hime Cut page.
  • January 10, 2012
    LarryD
    From Mahou Sensei Negima:
    Mana Tatsumiya - feathered bangs
    Ayaka Yukihiro - feathered bangs
    Zazie Rainyday - short hair behind
    Haruna Saotome - feathered bangs
    Chizuru Naba - no bangs in front
    Misa Kakizaki - no bangs in front
  • January 10, 2012
    Tambov333
    Western Animation:
  • January 10, 2012
    NoirGrimoir
    ^Azula's hair sin't even close to something like a hime cut, sloppy or otherwise.
  • February 18, 2012
    Westrim
    bump
  • March 7, 2012
    Westrim
    bumping again
  • March 19, 2012
    lu127
    Not particularly sure where I would file it, but:

    Hime Yarizakura from Yozakura Quartet is he mayor of the town and a demon. However, her bangs are too messy for a proper Hime Cut. Her name is certainly designed to evoke the haircut.
  • March 21, 2012
    Westrim
    The definition of Hime Cut has been tightened up, so this should be launched sometime before the edit histories disappear.
  • March 21, 2012
    deuxhero
    In Raidou Kuzunoha Vs King Abaddon Nagi has braids instead of the traditional front because her Russian heritage makes the traditional method impossible. Her master Geirin Kuzunoha has a hairstyle that would qualify as a hime cut, if not for the fact that he is an old man.
  • February 3, 2013
    Westrim
    Bumping. I'm not really versed in hair tropes, so someone can take over getting this launched if they wish. I'll just make sure this doesn't sink into a pit again.
  • February 3, 2013
    McKathlin
    I don't think the title Sloppy Hime Cut fits. The idea isn't that the haircut is untidy or poorly executed (which is what "sloppy" sounds like), but that it's not an exact match to the classic Hime Cut. I'm grasping for a name that expresses this, but none that I've tried sound right. Suggestions?

    Another idea would be to lump Hime Cut-like hairstyles (with Hime Cut personality connotations required) with Hime Cut itself, listing their examples in a separate section of the same page.
  • February 3, 2013
    McKathlin
    Proposed title: Not Quite Hime Cut.
  • February 4, 2013
    Paradisesnake
    Whoever gave you the Drowtales quote, he/she linked it to the wrong page. (Or rather, he/she didn't know how to link it the right way. Since the main story links sometimes get moved they need to be linked using the URL the archive drop-down menu gives you to make them permanent.) Here's the example with a corrected link (also took the liberty of correcting a spelling mistake):

  • June 12, 2013
    Jess
    And don't forget another male example: Van Kleiss from Generator Rex, who has long, straight, black hair with feathered/ragged bangs with a Skunk Stripe on each side and occassional strands draped over his shoulders.
  • July 25, 2013
    DAN004
    Dunno if this counts but -
  • July 25, 2013
    RoseBride
    Don't know if this onw counts, but Carly Nagisa from Yu Gi Oh5ds has a pretty ...peculiar version of the Hime Cut, it would be a normal one but it has pointy bangs, also it tend to look unkept probably to resemble her sloppy personality
  • July 25, 2013
    DAN004
    Maybe you can add to the Naruto example that Hinata already has the personalities associated with Hime Cut even when her hair was short (shyness, Yamato Nadeshiko) but after it grows to a full Hime Cut, she also grows more confidence.
  • July 26, 2013
    Jess
    Okay, how?
  • July 26, 2013
    DAN004
    Rewording it:
    • Hinata Hyuuga of Naruto has the short hair variation pre-Time Skip. Post, it grows into a full Hime Cut. Played with, in that she already has the personalities associated with Hime Cut even when her hair was short (shyness, Yamato Nadeshiko) but after it grows to a full Hime Cut, she also grows more confidence.
  • July 26, 2013
    Jess
    Now that makes sense.
  • July 27, 2013
    Arivne
    Can we get a page picture of what this is supposed to look like so we can give examples that fit it?

    I've checked several of the examples with linked pictures and they all look different.
  • July 27, 2013
    Jess
    Okay
  • July 27, 2013
    Paradisesnake
    I posted the Drowtales example with a repaired link and fixed spelling mistake almost half a year ago and it still wasn't changed... Went and did it by myself.
  • July 27, 2013
    Jess
    But why one hat is gone? They were two hats here, but now here is one hat, Why?
  • July 27, 2013
    DAN004
    Someone removed it of course. :P
  • July 28, 2013
    FrodoGoofballCoTV
    Arivne asked "Can we get a page picture of what this is supposed to look like so we can give examples that fit it? I've checked several of the examples with linked pictures and they all look different."

    The concept as I understand it is that a character has a hairdo that is close enough to a Hime Cut to suggest that trope, but doesn't quite meet the requirements, and this is used to symbolize or suggest something about the character's personality or social status doesn't quite fit that trope.

    We may need to split this as there are multiple subtypes.
  • July 28, 2013
    Jess
    When Arivne asked that, I replied 'Okay'
  • July 29, 2013
    Jess
    By the way, yesterday I added a picture of Van Kleiss on the Van Kleiss example. His hair resembles a Sloppy Hime Cut because of the bangs. That's why I added Van Kleiss on the examples.
  • July 29, 2013
    Jess
    Hello? Is anyone here?
  • July 29, 2013
    DAN004
    • raises hand*
  • July 29, 2013
    Jess
    Yes DAN004?
  • July 30, 2013
    DAN004
    Well you asked for someone to be here...
  • July 30, 2013
    Jess
    Good. Because, there's something I have to discuss with you.
  • August 1, 2013
    peccantis
    So, how is this not about creating an entire page for the sole purpose of shoehorning?
  • August 1, 2013
    DAN004
    ^ Sloppy Hime Cut can describe and portray subversions of the characterizations listed in the Hime Cut page.
  • August 1, 2013
    nitrokitty
    Appearance tropes have been square in TRS's crosshairs as of late, and I think if this one gets launched, they will come down on it like a ton of rectangular building things. There's no clear meaning behind the hairstyle, just that its a bit different from Hime Cut. As it stands now, it feels forced and does not really cover personality characteristics, which are the true purpose behind such tropes.
  • August 1, 2013
    Jess
    What do you mean, nitrokitty?
  • August 2, 2013
    SeptimusHeap
    It means "Appearance tropes are a trouble source. If this gets launched, it lands immediately in TRS"

    And Hime Cut is more than just a hair cut. This YKTTW is just a style of haircut (the examples, especially, are just hair). Just a hairstyle is not a trope. So I am submitting a Motion To Discard.
  • August 2, 2013
    m8e
    Right, just hair isn't a trope.

    I see a possible trope here and it's "Not quite Hime Cut to show that someone is not quite 'hime'", then the examples needs to explain how they almost fit the Hime Cut trope and/or why the haircut doesn't match the Hime Cut.
  • August 2, 2013
    DAN004
    ^ Which is already addressed... right?
  • August 2, 2013
    m8e
    Well, there is still some "just hair" examples, the laconic need to be changed and the description have to be changed to require some meaning, instead of it just being typical.
  • August 2, 2013
    DAN004
    Okay, Sir Jess, somebody else better than me is gonna help. :)
  • June 9, 2014
    Westrim
    Bump.
  • June 9, 2014
    MrL1193
    "Not quite Hime Cut" combined with "Not quite Hime personality" still doesn't make a distinct trope in my book—it's just a Downplayed Hime Cut.

    I'd throw on another Motion To Discard if this one weren't already buried in tags...Seriously, there are two Motion to Discard tags and one of every other tag. Isn't it about time this one got put out of its misery?
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