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| 5 | !!Film |
| 6 | * SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Fred Karlin's creepily discordant score. |
| 7 | * HilariousInHindsight: |
| 8 | ** As the scientist in charge of the robots, Creator/AlanOppenheimer plays a character which will later be recreated as Dr. Rudy Wells in ''Series/TheSixMillionDollarMan''. |
| 9 | ** A virus that makes robots violent? [[VideoGame/MegaManX Are they sure it's not the Maverick Virus?]] |
| 10 | ** The robots are designed mostly by other computers, as explained by one of the scientists, and humans have hardly any idea of how they work. They look close to perfect reproductions of humans, aside for the eyes and the hands. Nowadays we have the prompt-to-image -Midjourney v4.0 or SD 1.5+finetuned models- generators which, with some tries and cunning, can give us great and almost perfect images, even when the images are about humans. But the human images are not completely perfect, there are some body parts that are often defective. Guess which ones? Sometimes eyes and almost always hands! |
| 11 | * MisaimedFandom: Creator/MichaelCrichton believed that the film had been misunderstood as warning of the dangers of technology. His real intention was to warn against corporate greed. |
| 12 | -->Everyone remembers the scene in ''Westworld'' where Creator/YulBrynner is a robot that runs amok. But there is a very specific scene where people discuss whether or not to shut down the resort. I think the movie was as much about that decision as anything. They just didn't really think it was really going to happen. |
| 13 | * OlderThanTheyThink: |
| 14 | ** Creator/OsamuTezuka actually came up with a very similar premise over a decade earlier for an episode of ''Anime/AstroBoy'' entitled "Robot Land". Not only that, the aesthetic of the park is suspiciously similar to the "Murder Game Room" from the late 1960s Sankei Newspaper ''Manga/AstroBoy'' serial, right down to the cowboy costumes. Tezuka himself points out the similarities in his introduction to the trade paperback in which the "Robot Land" story appears, where he dismisses it as mere coincidence rather than a deliberate ripoff. |
| 15 | ** ''Franchise/ScoobyDoo'' comes a tad closer in the timeline than Tezuka; [[WesternAnimation/TheNewScoobyDooMovies an episode]] about a Wild West amusement park where the animatronics turned violent (complete with TheGunslinger) predates ''Westworld'' by a single year. |
| 16 | * ParanoiaFuel: |
| 17 | ** You'll think twice before taking a vacation in a great park like this one from here on in. |
| 18 | ** The poster for ''Futureworld'' invokes this: it's a picture of a very human-looking robot getting its faceplate removed, with the tag line "Is this you, or are YOU you?" |
| 19 | * UnintentionalPeriodPiece: One scene that will immediately stand out to any modern viewer is the bit where the park's technicians are trying to figure out and explain what's causing the robots to start attacking guests, particularly the fact that it seems to be spreading between the robots. Today, we have a very simple term for this "infectious machine disease": ''computer virus''. |
| 20 | * SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: This was in fact the ''very first'' movie to use computer animation, for the robots' POV shots. They may seem pretty passe now, but the effect was mind-blowing in 1973. |
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| 24 | !!Series |
| 25 | * AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Many characters are subject to different viewpoints due to all the moral themes and ponderings about the exact nature of humanity. |
| 26 | ** Dr. Robert Ford: a misanthropic sociopath with a god complex or a paternalist, WellIntentionedExtremist who genuinely tries to protect his unique creatures from being revealed as a threat to mankind? [[spoiler:"The Bicameral Mind" gives the answer that Ford is, in fact, TheAtoner who considers opening the park a mistake. But does this negate his God complex or just render him the ultimate misanthrope? Is he motivated by the loss of Arnold, a genuine love for the hosts, or an overriding hatred for humanity? Though since his plans are in the end enabling [[KillAllHumans the total genocide of the human race]] due to judging them all from the few worst ones who can even afford to visit the park which he continues to allow for the specific sake of causing the hosts horrific suffering to "awaken" them so they ultimately will take revenge for their orchestrated mistreatment, even if his intentions had some good in them at any point he'd still ''only'' be a [[LighterShadeOfBlack lighter shade of black]] even compared to some of the worst characters in the show.]] |
| 27 | ** The Man in Black[[spoiler:/William: Was William an evil and selfish man at his core all along, or he is just as much a victim of Westworld as the hosts due to the park's brutality, Logan's machinations and his own dissatisfaction with life? Was his evil unveiled, or created? He does say he was 'born' in Westworld, and while he claims to be a straight-up sociopath who doesn't feel anything, the showrunners seem to consider that to be his ''own'' view, and while he didn't react to killing Maeve's daughter as he expected to, he certainly ''did'' react. He also seems to be full of self-loathing and rage, which doesn't fit the profile of a sociopath who truly feels nothing. Dolores also believes that he was a good person who genuinely loved her but was twisted by a broken heart and years of increasing violence, but Logan may be right that deep down, Dolores was nothing but an excuse. Is a part of him still in love with Dolores, and his cruelty toward her is a desperate attempt to 'wake her up' since he expresses the belief that suffering is what makes a person truly real? And, although it's hard to argue with the implication of the barn scene, ''did'' he rape Dolores and has he ever? Or was he torturing her in a further attempt to wake her up?]] |
| 28 | ** Logan: Did Logan have a more healthy approach to Westworld than William did? While he did act like a dick throughout their whole trip, it was William's emotional attachment to the hosts and Dolores in particular that led to his StartOfDarkness and eventually [[spoiler:becoming the Man in Black]]. Logan saw it more as a video game and the hosts as [=NPCs=], which [[spoiler:given that it was the earliest build of the park where none of the hosts save Dolores had any self-awareness, they more or less were]]. Does he really want to bond with his future brother-in-law, and are his reactions to William's refusal to go along with Logan's cruel misadventures just frustration on Logan's part that William doesn't appreciate the escapist draw of the park? |
| 29 | ** There's some debate as whether Dolores at the end of season 1 and during season 2 is truly self-aware or not. Did she really find the center of the maze like Arnold intended, or is she simply following the programming of the Wyatt persona Ford programmed into her? There's also her attitude towards humanity in general. While it's justified that the humans abused her and her people for many years and she wants revenge on them, she only meets those humans who can afford to enter the park and happened to be the most deprived bunch. Though she never encounters the humans who are in the lower class (e.g. Felix) or those who never enter the park, it's still up in the air whether her true intention is really [[KillAllHumans to commit genocide on the entire human race]] or to destroy the worst bunch of humans such as Delos. Season 3 manages to answer that it's the latter after she learns that the humans are no different from the hosts and their lives were controlled by another megacorporation called Incite plus her meeting with Caleb made her change her mind about humanity. However, some fans believed that Dolores' main priority is still the Hosts' future and doesn't care for humanity's survival, believing that it would be up to them to decide their future. |
| 30 | ** Are [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans really assholes]] who are so incompetent and simple-minded that their free will is just an illusion and are incapable of change? Ford, the Forge A.I. and [[http://ew.com/tv/2018/06/24/westworld-season-2-finale-interview/ the showrunners themselves]] seem to agree on this. However, [[spoiler:Sizemore's HeroicSacrifice for Maeve's group and Dolores' meeting with Caleb]] says otherwise which means that there are still humans who are capable of change. It should also be noted that while the human characters in the first two seasons are only the guests and the employees who happened to have the worst qualities, there are still those who are still sympathetic (e.g. Felix, Emily, Elsie and Caleb). And considering that [[Creator/JonathanNolan the writer himself]] already explored this concept in [[Series/PersonOfInterest his previous show]] and other movies (particularly ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' and ''Film/{{Interstellar}}'') that [[Creator/ChristopherNolan his brother]] made, it is likely that this debate would continue to develop in the future. |
| 31 | ** Francis' attempt to [[spoiler: kill Caleb]] was botched so poorly that it's easier to interpret it as a SuicideByCop. Francis had been having difficulty emotionally and economically supporting his sick kid, and he might've seen this as a way out while also providing his friend Caleb the money he needs (and possibly enough to support Francis' son). Given the discussions going on, it's possible he also presumed (likely correctly) that if they both refused the betrayal offers, they'd just end up with bounties on their heads. |
| 32 | * AwardSnub: |
| 33 | ** Creator/EvanRachelWood lost the Emmy for seasons 1 and 2 to Creator/ElizabethMoss for ''Series/TheHandmaidsTale'' and Creator/ClaireFoy for ''Series/TheCrown'' respectively in the Best Lead Actress category. She was even snubbed for season 3. Though she did win a Critics' Choice Award in 2016. |
| 34 | ** Many were shocked that Creator/ThandiweNewton lost the Emmy for season 1 after being the favorite for months on end. She would go on to win the next year, but some have called it a ConsolationAward. |
| 35 | ** Creator/EdHarris' always great season 1 work went ignored by the Emmys. However, he did manage to get nominated for season 2, which came as a pleasant surprise to many, given he couldn't make the supporting lineup last time, but made it in as a lead the year after. Unfortunately, he was snubbed for season 3. |
| 36 | ** Louis Herthum's highly acclaimed guest work in season 1 was screwed out of a nomination since he also appeared in one episode too many, forcing him to compete as a supporting actor, even though outside of the pilot, all of his screentime pretty much consisted of him standing still and looking powered down, obviously ruining his attempts at a nod when so many other actors with competing with genuine supporting roles, including his costars. |
| 37 | ** Something similar happened in season 2, where Creator/ZahnMcClarnon appeared in just one too many episodes, meaning his excellent work in [[ADayInTheLimelight "Kiksuya"]] was denied guest eligibility, forcing him to compete in supporting against far larger roles when his part that year consisted of playing the lead in one episode, and [[TheCameo little more than cameos]] in a few others. |
| 38 | ** Much like Herthum and [=McClarnon=], Creator/AnthonyHopkins also suffered from being put in the wrong category, when his guest eligible work in season 2 for some reason was placed in supporting, yet again being another Westworld actor who then got snubbed because they were competing against much larger roles. |
| 39 | ** Creator/PeterMullan's thrilling guest work as the host of James Delos in season 2 went ignored by the Emmys, who chose to nominate Creator/JimmiSimpson instead, with many arguing that Mullan should've joined his costar in the category, or even replaced him. |
| 40 | ** To add salt to the wounds, Season 4 received no nominations at all in the Emmys 2023. Though given that the show was canceled and removed from HBO Max, it's unlikely it would receive nominations at that point which would compete with four other HBO shows that were nominated (''Series/{{Succession}}'', ''Series/TheLastOfUs'', ''Series/TheWhiteLotus'', and ''Series/HouseOfTheDragon''). |
| 41 | * SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: |
| 42 | ** Ramin Djawadi's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elkHuRROPfk&ab_channel=HBO haunting main theme]] for the opening titles, which masterfully blends old school Western and CyberPunk sci-fi musical motifs. |
| 43 | ** The orchestral rendition of [[Music/TheRollingStonesBand "Paint It Black"]] during the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmOXlt83jtI saloon heist massacre]]. |
| 44 | ** "Ain't No Grave" by Music/JohnnyCash playing over the credits at the end of the pilot. |
| 45 | ** [[Music/NineInchNails "Something I Can Never Have"]] gets a similar gorgeous orchestra adaptation during a massive orgy. |
| 46 | ** The heartwrenching "Motion Picture Soundtrack" by Music/{{Radiohead}}, during Maeve's tour of the facility. |
| 47 | ** Music/AmyWinehouse's "Back to Black" [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHrQL-tTGcE piano cover]] during Maeve's emancipation. |
| 48 | ** Ramin Djawadi's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4sgPJvgev8 "Violent Delights"]] that plays in the season one finale [[spoiler:when Hector and Armistice effortlessly kill the Delos security team.]] |
| 49 | ** The ''beautiful'' cover of "Exit Music" by Music/{{Radiohead}} that plays during the finale. |
| 50 | ** Music/ClaudeDebussy's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRjllL-MP0U "Reverie"]] makes you very calm that puts in a deep, slumbering sleep [[spoiler:which is actually the favorite song of Arnold's late son, Charlie]]. Djawadi's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb7UqISiuFY rendition]] also makes it very chilling [[spoiler:since this song is used to awaken the hosts as seen the Season 1 finale]]. |
| 51 | ** The peaceful piano cover of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHnqvZBwk0Y "Runaway"]] by Music/KanyeWest which is played in the official trailer of Season 2. It also makes an appearance in the cold opening of "Reunion", [[spoiler:set in the outside world, with Dolores & Arnold]]. |
| 52 | ** Season 2's second trailer features Ramin Djawadi's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDS8SeO6hyg orchestral cover]] of "Heart-Shaped Box'' by Music/{{Nirvana}} which is very beautiful and haunting. [[spoiler:The song returns in "Kiksuya", when Akecheta finds his beloved Kohana in cold storage.]] |
| 53 | ** "Akane No Mai" gives us another version of "Paint It Black" with East Asian instruments, then tops it with [[Music/WuTangClan "C.R.E.A.M."]] as [[spoiler:Akane dances for the Shogun and then kills him]]. |
| 54 | ** The last part of Season 2 finale gives us [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNWQQ1mXK08 "Codex"]] by Radiohead which fits perfectly for the ending. Ramin Djawadi also made [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZExWMK0n_Vo a cover version]] of it. |
| 55 | ** The third season's teaser features "Brain Damage" by Music/PinkFloyd while Caleb narrates about the modern world he lives in. This played again in the last part of Season 3 finale and Djawadi also has [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohMRfCxUKkA his own cover]]. |
| 56 | ** The last trailer of Season 3 has Djawadi's cover of Music/GunsNRoses' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtdhS2MC75c "Sweet Child O' Mine"]] which conveys the excitement for the season. |
| 57 | ** Also from the third season, Djawadi's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zFvGxiYwoc cover of "Wicked Games"]] by Music/TheWeeknd. |
| 58 | ** The slow, strings rendition of [[Music/DavidBowie "Space Oddity"]] as [[spoiler:Dolores releases the Incite profiles to the whole world.]] |
| 59 | ** The Season 4 teaser trailer has [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wxI4KK9ZYo "Perfect Day"]] by Music/LouReed which shows the calmness of the scenes played. |
| 60 | ** The official Season 4 trailer has a piano rendition of Music/NineInchNails's "The Day The World Went Away" which plays along the dark journey over humanity's fate. In fact, the song was previously used in ''Person Of Interest'' which Djawadi and Nolan worked on. And fittingly enough, this song is even in the ''Film/TerminatorSalvation'' trailer. This goes to show that if you want a song about the robot apocalypse, then use this song. |
| 61 | ** The ending of Season 4's seventh episode has [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3MX-rUtS6M "The Man Who Sold The World"]] by Music/DavidBowie which is played when the Man in Black shoots the Drone Hosts [[spoiler:as he watches the world go up in flames.]] |
| 62 | ** In the Season 4 finale, Ramin Djawadi's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_acc0n2PhY cover]] of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M_Gg1xAHE4 "Pyramid Song"]] by Radiohead encapsulates the grim feeling [[spoiler:of sentient life's destruction as Dolores walks among the corpses of both hosts and humans in the virtual simulation of New York.]] |
| 63 | * AwesomenessWithdrawal: After the first season, there was a one-year gap between seasons. This is uncommon during the pre-COVID pandemic era where it's usually the cast and crew who are busy with other projects during the off-season. But it becomes detrimental for the fans who were waiting for a new season which doesn't help that there's a lack of material for fans to consume while waiting. As a result, this leads many viewers to lose interest in the show. The wait for the fourth season is the worst due to InvisibleAdvertising. |
| 64 | * BaseBreakingCharacter: |
| 65 | ** Dolores. Given how much her character undergoes DivergentCharacterEvolution in Seasons 2 and 3, the consensus is very divided. One camp believes that her actions are necessary for the survival of her kind no matter how cruel they are while the other camp thinks she's very self-righteous and that she never considers the consequences of her actions which are felt in Season 4. |
| 66 | ** Maeve. Some viewers consider her to be selfish and only care about her daughter, which many believe affected her arc in Season 3 where she became Serac's lackey. But there are viewers who believe she still cares for others such as Hector, Clementine, Felix, and Caleb. There's also about her abilities which many think it's cool while others think it's cringy and plot-relevant. |
| 67 | ** The Man in Black [[spoiler:(a.k.a. William). Some people see him as a TragicVillian who lost everything and deserves to be redeemed. However, other viewers believe that he's an irredeemable asshole who thinks the whole world revolves around him. There's also his relationship with Dolores which some fans believe they should be back together regardless of the tragedy between them but other fans think there's no chance for them to be together given the damage and putting them together is considered to be toxic]]. |
| 68 | ** Hale, [[spoiler:who in Seasons 3 and 4 is a host and a copy of Dolores]]. While a lot of people enjoy her arc in Season 3, her role [[spoiler:as the BigBad]] in Season 4 is a very mixed bag, particularly with Creator/TessaThompson's acting. While some consider her portrayal to be cartoonishly evil and laughable, others find it awesome and entertaining. |
| 69 | ** Ford also gets this as the show goes on. Many viewers regard him as one of the best characters in the entire all thanks to Anthony Hopkins' performance and his desire to free the hosts after realizing his mistakes. However, there are viewers who find him to be a pretentious edgelord which doesn't help that his misanthropic views are considerably out of touch once the story goes outside the park. |
| 70 | ** Caleb, particularly when he's first introduced in the story. Some find him boring compared to other human characters from the previous seasons and criticized Creator/AaronPaul's acting to be flat. Others find him a worthy addition to contrast Dolores' perspective on humanity and his arc in Season 4 is considered to be an improvement. |
| 71 | * BetterOnDVD: Watching the show, particularly with Season 2, in a binge-watching format can make you appreciate and understand the story and the timelines much better than watching it on a weekly basis. |
| 72 | * BigLippedAlligatorMoment: |
| 73 | ** Elsie kissing a deactivated Clementine in the first episode. It’s not like the episode is otherwise lacking in demonstrations of humans’ apathy toward the hosts’ dignity, and she never does anything like it again, not even showing interest in women. The sole contribution is making her death an especially avoidable case of BuryYourGays. |
| 74 | ** Episode 6 of Season 3 has Maeve beating up Nazis in the Warworld simulation which doesn't have any relevance to the story other than waiting for her host body to be printed. |
| 75 | * BrokenBase: |
| 76 | ** Season 2 is very divisive among fans and critics. One camp enjoyed and loved it for being very philosophical and thought-provoking while the other camp hated it for being confusing and pretentious. There's also a third camp that still find the show enjoyable but it's bogged down by several flaws such as the characterization, execution and pacing. |
| 77 | ** The GenreShift between seasons 2 and 3 where the show goes from a western science fiction set in a theme park with a complex storyline to a very simple actionized cyberpunk set outside the park. Some viewers find this change refreshing because staying in the park would make the story stale. They even like that the story is straightforward without the complicated timelines and downplayed the philosophical discussions that some find pretentious. Others disliked it because being outside the park made the story too boring and generic which lost most of the philosophy and key concepts about the show and many attributed this change to the backlash on the second season. |
| 78 | ** There is always a huge debate regarding what the show is all about given that the theme keeps changing each season. Overall, one camp believes that it is about humanity's violent nature that led to its demise while others, including the actors and showrunners, believe it's a warning to humanity on misusing technology to [[ControlFreak control society]] as if [[AGodAmI they're gods]]. |
| 79 | * CaptainObviousReveal: In Season 4,[[spoiler:Christina being a variant of Dolores is blatantly obvious to many fans despite Lisa Joy and Evan Rachel Wood's statements about her being a human. The show explicitly spells out a lot of Dolores-related [[CallBack Call Backs]] to Christina's storyline and as the storyline goes on, it's clear that Christina is not human which doesn't come out as a surprise when the twist is revealed in the season finale. It doesn't help that a lot of fans already figure this out due to [[https://www.morninghoney.com/p/westworld-stars-evan-rachel-wood-tessa-thompson-film-season-4-see-photos the set photos]] where Wood is wearing Dolores' blue dress with Christina's red hair.]] |
| 80 | * CatharsisFactor: |
| 81 | ** [[spoiler:Dolores beating the ever-loving shit out of the Man in Black in the season finale is just desserts for all of the horrible things he's put her and the other hosts through over the years. It's played with in that the Man in Black used to be the very sympathetic character William, and it's possible to feel sorry for him for that very reason. It's also clearly only there for the benefit of the audience who have been rooting for her, since ultimately Dolores' true fate is to instigate the Host revolution by killing Ford, and the Man in Black is still alive by the end of the season]]. |
| 82 | ** Despite not getting to finish the job (and it being obvious she wouldn't as Charlotte had already been seen alive in the future), Dolores actually wiping the smirk off Charlotte's face by threatening to cut her apart piece by piece is much appreciated. [[spoiler: As it turns out, she doesn't live to the end of the season and is shot in the head by Dolores, whose CPU is in a duplicate of Hale's body and takes her place.]] |
| 83 | * CommonKnowledge: Most fans, including those on Reddit, believed that [[spoiler:Dolores is Bernard's creator but it's actually a joint effort between Dolores and Ford. Ford is the one who wants Arnold to come back. But because the technology to replicate the human mind didn't exist back then, he requested Dolores' help to recreate all of Arnold's mannerisms because she's one of the few with whom Arnold interacted the most. However, Dolores finds out that she also included the memory of Arnold requesting her to kill him. So, she made modifications to his behavior to prevent that memory from triggering. Though Ford doesn't mind it because he prefers a more obedient version of Arnold, he is also the one who added Arnold's memory of losing his son which became Bernard's cornerstone. In the end, both Dolores and Ford are the ones who made Bernard who he is at present]]. |
| 84 | * CompleteMonster--Season 4, ''The Choice'': [[spoiler:[[AIIsACrapshoot The Host]] created in the image of [[Characters/WestworldWilliam William]], the new Man in Black, begins as a counterpart to the host Charlotte, helping to gather support for her from the shadows and murdering humans to cover his tracks. Forcibly reprogramming Clementine to serve Charlotte, the Host ultimately has a crisis of existence, exacerbated by its talks with the original William. [[StrawNihilist Embracing a cruel nihilistic philosophy]], the Host William kills the real one, slaughtering its way through Charlotte, Maeve, and Bernard to ultimately set off a device and [[OmnicidalManiac force every human and Host to kill each other in an orgy of violence, proclaiming that nothing will be left, save for roaches]].]] |
| 85 | * ConsolationAward: Creator/ThandiweNewton was considered the frontrunner for the Emmy for the first season but ended up losing to Creator/AnnDowd when ''Series/TheHandmaidsTale'' swept that ceremony. She went on to win the next year, and while her performance wasn’t seen as undeserving, many thought this trope was in play, as her work wasn’t as acclaimed as it was in the show’s first year, and many thought Maeve was OutOfFocus in the latter half. |
| 86 | * DelusionConclusion: Many fans, who do not want a Season 5, believed that the Season 4 finale is the true ending of the story contrary to Nolan and Joy's statements that Season 5 is supposed to be the end. Given that the last scene shows Dolores [[spoiler:recreating Westworld park in the Sublime to put sentient life for a final loop]], many believed that the Season 4 ending leads to Season 1 and the entire show is a never-ending loop. |
| 87 | * DracoInLeatherPants: |
| 88 | ** A lot of fans consider Dolores as a liberator for the hosts despite her questionable methods. Considering her brutal experience in the park, it's no surprise that fans would support her cause and deflect any criticism against her. It helps that Evan Rachel Wood's performance really charmed a lot of viewers. |
| 89 | ** Even the Man in Black [[spoiler:(a.k.a. William)]] has a set of fans who see him as a tragic figure who got disillusioned with his experience in the park and his tragic backstory with his family despite that he's responsible for putting a lot of hell on the hosts and how he treated Dolores before her awakening of her self-consciousness. Fans also deflect any criticism against him and attempt to justify any of his actions. In fact, many fans are hoping for a redemption arc. |
| 90 | ** Even characters like [[MisanthropeSupreme Robert]] [[MadScientist Ford]] and [[GreaterScopeVillain Engerraund]] [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans Serac]], arguably two of the scariest types of human beings to come from the future world portrayed in the show, get some of this from fans. Their sympathetic motives, and the charming yet sinister performances from Anthony Hopkins and Vincent Cassel, certainly help. |
| 91 | * EnsembleDarkhorse: |
| 92 | ** Louis Herthum as Peter Abernathy has received enormous acclaim from critics and audiences. His final scene is considered a highlight in an exceptional first episode due to Herthum's hypnotic performance, in which he swings from warm and sympathetic to robotic and cold to anguished and fearful to angry and vengeful, all while in the buff. It's something special when you steal a scene from Creator/AnthonyHopkins, and carry the most memorable scene in an episode that features other acting heavyweights like Creator/EdHarris and Creator/JeffreyWright. It's perhaps in part due to this popularity that [[PromotionToOpeningTitles he became a series regular]] for Season 2. |
| 93 | ** Marti, a guest who seems more typical of humanity than others. She isn't bumbling, callous or sadistic, she's just drawn in and enjoys the adventure. |
| 94 | ** Rebus, due to him being played by Creator/StevenOgg. A common joke is that he went from ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'' to ''VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption2''. |
| 95 | ** Felix, for making a HazyFeelTurn to assist Maeve, and genuinely showing sympathy for the hosts. |
| 96 | ** Grace, an ActionSurvivor guest left to deal with the host rebellion on her own, and the closest character to the original film's main hero after the truth about William was revealed. [[spoiler:Fittingly, she's actually William's daughter, Emily.]] |
| 97 | ** Stubbs, because of [[Creator/LukeHemsworth his actor]] (since people really love the Hemsworth brothers) and for slowly getting tired of Delos' shit after the host rebellion broke out. |
| 98 | ** Elsie, because she is the only character who has no emotional baggage or hidden agenda and just wants to do her job well as she, like Stubbs, is tired of Delos' shit. [[spoiler:Many viewers are shocked when she is killed off in the Season 2 finale]]. |
| 99 | ** Akecheta, due to his performance by Creator/ZahnMcClarnon which received unanimous acclaim from critics and viewers and for straying away from the HollywoodNatives tropes and becoming a well-rounded character. It helps that his motives were purely benevolent which causes a lot of viewers to root for him. |
| 100 | ** James Delos, or rather, the host version of him is quite popular for his trial runs where Creator/PeterMullan manages to turn in an amazing performance as a failing body and mind that makes you pity the old bastard. |
| 101 | * EpilepticTrees: Ever since Season 1, fans, particularly those in Reddit, are bound to speculate and theorize which ranges from very plausible ones to tinfoil hat ones. |
| 102 | ** TheStinger in Season 2 shows that [[spoiler:the host version of the Man in Black entering the abandoned Forge and being tested for Fidelity by the host version of Emily which, according to WordOfGod, is set in the distant future]]. These led to fans speculate that all the Man in Black's scenes in Season 2 [[spoiler:are actually a loop that he experienced until he reaches the Forge as he wasn't able to enter it when he was human because his hand was injured by Dolores' gun and was rescued by the Delos response team afterwards]]. |
| 103 | ** Since Season 1, there were very strange theories about Charlotte Hale [[spoiler:being Arnold's child, Charlie, or that she's Charlie's sibling despite that Charlie's death is one of the contributing factors to Arnold's suicide and there were no mentions of Arnold having other children]]. Charlotte being a representative of the Delos board of directors at a young age is usually attributed to this theory. |
| 104 | ** Many fans believed that Season 3 took place in another park and/or is a simulation all because in the first episode, Liam's friend, Roderick, made a hypothesis about being in a simulation which a lot of viewers took this literally to the point that they thought Rehoboam's divergences and several production errors are "clues" to this theory. Some even believed that the ''entire show'' is a simulation and that there are no human characters in the show with [[https://www.reddit.com/r/westworld/comments/wong0s/do_you_remember_lost_my_job_leak_story/ one former insider]] on Reddit claiming that this is the original plan for the show. The Season 4 ending scene, [[spoiler:where Dolores recreates the Westworld park from memory in the Sublime]], reinforces this theory even further. |
| 105 | ** In the Season 4 trailers, Evan Rachel Wood plays a character named Christina, who looks like Dolores only with red hair and works as a writer. Many fans speculate that Christina is possibly [[spoiler:a version of Dolores recreated by Host Charlotte for unknown purposes or a woman who is the basis of Dolores]]. When the Season 4 finale reveals Christina [[spoiler:being a variant of Dolores, this led to a lot of theories about whether she's the original Dolores or one of her copies.]] |
| 106 | * EvilIsCool: |
| 107 | ** The mysterious and sadistic Man in Black definitely has one of the more interesting subplots. And he does it all with style, being played by [[CoolOldGuy perennial badass]] Ed Harris. |
| 108 | ** Invoked with Hector, the outlaw character who is much more popular than the NiceGuy hero character Teddy. |
| 109 | ** [[spoiler:Dr. Ford.]] A given when you have [[spoiler:Sir Anthony Hopkins]] playing a suave yet sinister character. |
| 110 | * FanNickname: Several. |
| 111 | ** Especially [[spoiler:"Bernarnold"]] for Jeffrey Wright's character Bernard, probably the most frequently used nickname for a character. [[spoiler:Bernard Lowe has past ties to the deceased Arnold Weber, in more ways than one.]] Some have [[RuleOfFunny slurred the nickname further]], to the likes of [[spoiler:"Bananold"]]. |
| 112 | ** Due to many viewers and fellow fans mispronouncing Dolores Abernathy's name (e.g. Delores, Doloris, Deloris, etc.), some fans of the series had started nicknaming the character "Doritos", mocking the increasing weirdness of the mispronunciations. For some reason, [[SpellMyNameWithAnS few seem to know how to spell her name correctly]]. |
| 113 | ** "Billiam" for William's character. He tends to be referred to as either "William" or "Bill/Billy", depending on the particular period of his life that's being shown, hence the portmanteau. In a bit of ActorAllusion, some fans have also speculated that William's [[OnlyOneName never-revealed surname]] is "[[Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia McPoyle]]". |
| 114 | ** "Budget Hemsworth" for security chief Ash Stubbs, as he's played by the least famous and (currently) least-earning of the Hemsworth brothers. |
| 115 | ** Angela is played by Talulah Riley, who happens to be Elon Musk's ex-wife (''twice''). Accordingly, many have nicknamed Angela "Elon Musk's Ex". |
| 116 | ** The "Teddynator" for Teddy Flood, at a particular point in the second season's storyline. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, less funny and more tragic. Dolores has the considerate and heroic Teddy forcefully reprogrammed into a ruthless, unflinching killer, who'll blindly do her bidding. Ted might seem badass at first, but becomes terrifying, making for a sad but fitting nickname.]] |
| 117 | ** [[spoiler:The BittersweetEnding received by Teddy Flood at the end of the second season has been nicknamed "[[VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption Dead Ted Redemption]]" by some]]. |
| 118 | ** [[spoiler:"Halores"/"Charlores" for the host version of Charlotte Hale, carrying a copy of Dolores' conscious mind, created at the end of the second season]]. |
| 119 | ** "Damaged Arnold" for [[spoiler:Bernard in Season 3 due to his work pseudonym, Armando Delgado, which many fans amusingly took this as an anagram]]. |
| 120 | ** "Dolores Prime" or "OG Dolores" for [[spoiler:the original Dolores played by Evan Rachel Wood due to TheReveal of having four copies of herself. Collectively, all of Dolores' copies are referred to as "Dolori".]] |
| 121 | ** "MIB" which is a shortcut for the Man in Black. Not be confused with TheMenInBlack. |
| 122 | ** "Man in White" for [[spoiler:William in Season 3 due to wearing a white jumpsuit after his confinement in a rehabilitation facility]]. |
| 123 | * FandomRivalry: With ''Series/{{Devs}}''. Both shows tackle on technology and data its relationship with free will vs. determinism. |
| 124 | * FanficFuel: |
| 125 | ** The casual reveal in Season 2 that there are several other parks with different settings. |
| 126 | ** The Season 2 post-credits, [[spoiler:where Host William is being tested for fidelity by Host Emily,]] opened up a lot of speculation and theories. With the cancellation of the show, this scene is brought up by fans again where they try to figure out how it connects to [[spoiler:Dolores' test in the Sublime]]. |
| 127 | * FanonDiscontinuity: A lot of fans want to pretend that anything beyond Season 1 doesn't happen, citing that the show went into the same issues as ''Film/JurassicPark'' and the original ''Film/{{Westworld}}''. There are even fans who want to believe that the story ended in Season 2 because the following two seasons are set outside the park, which changes the tone of the show and makes the title a NonIndicativeName. |
| 128 | * FanPreferredCouple: [[FoeYayShipping William/Dolores]] is by far the biggest ship in the fandom due to the tragic angle of their previous romance in flashbacks and William getting a lot of DracoInLeatherPants treatment. Dolores/William is also easily more popular than the canon in present day Dolores/Teddy and gets far more fan content than the latter. Even Creator/EvanRachelWood and Creator/JimmiSimpson, the actors who play Dolores and William, have openly admitted to shipping William/Dolores. |
| 129 | * FightSceneFailure: Stubbs' fight scene where he swings an axe one-handed against armed men with machine guns in episode 2 of Season 3 is a combination of poor choreography and RealLifeWritesThePlot where Luke Hemsworth got a shoulder injury prior to filming the scene. |
| 130 | * FirstInstallmentWins: Season 1 is typically viewed as great television while season 2 had a much more divisive reception, and the notices for season 3 leaned towards the negative. The fourth season attempted to improve in terms of viewers' reception until the last two episodes cause another division again. |
| 131 | * FourthWallMyopia: None of the guests have any reason to think the hosts are anything more than mindless robots, and are no more evil in their motivations than your average ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto'' player. |
| 132 | * FriendlyFandoms: |
| 133 | ** With the ''VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption'' fandom. Jonathan Nolan admitted that the game is one of their inspirations in forming the narrative's moral component. And when ''VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption2'' was released same year as the show's second season, fans would tend to recreate the characters and scenes in the game. It helps that the games have similar vibes to the show. |
| 134 | ** With the ''Series/{{Lost}}'' fandom because they shared similar vibes of puzzle-solving, timelines and theory-crafting. It helps that Creator/JJAbrams is the producer of both shows. |
| 135 | ** With ''Series/PersonOfInterest'' because it was also written by Jonathan Nolan and it discusses the use of ArtificialIntelligence. |
| 136 | * GeniusBonus: |
| 137 | ** The Japanese that the Shogun World hosts get locked into is an archaic version that was actually used during the Edo period that the park is emulating. |
| 138 | ** Charlotte Hale's son is named Nathan. Nathan Hale was the name of a 21 year old Colonial spy during the American Revolution who set a new standard for FaceDeathWithDignity after being captured, saying just before being hanged "I only regret that I have but one life to give for my country." Of course, for the hosts it's quite different. |
| 139 | *** The name also hints at [[spoiler:Charlotte being a spy for Serac.]] |
| 140 | * HarsherInHindsight: |
| 141 | ** Not that it wasn't ''already'' harsh, but the Man in Black's implied rape of Dolores in Episode 1 seems even worse after Evan Rachel Wood, Dolores' actress, revealed in November 2016 that she's been raped on two occasions. Then in January 2021, she revealed on her Instragram account that her ex-fiancee, Music/MarilynManson, is her abuser. What's even more disturbing is that Manson brainwashed and manipulated her into submission which is something Dolores had gone through for many years. |
| 142 | ** As many reviewers pointed out, the first two episodes of Season 2 revealed that Delos is collecting personal data from the guests for market research which is eerily similar to the Facebook-Cambridge Analytica data scandal. Since Season 2 was in production in 2017 before the news of the scandal broke out in March 2018, these events made the show coincidentally relevant. This isn't even the first time the show's creative team ran into this, as their previous show ''Series/PersonOfInterest'' eerily predicted the NSA wiretapping scandal. |
| 143 | ** The gag about Shogun World just being a reskinned Westworld is pretty awkward after the controversy over the tie-in game just a month later; see OvershadowedByControversy below. |
| 144 | ** The near destruction of the park in Season 2 becomes very disturbing after [[https://www.vulture.com/2018/11/hbos-westworld-sets-destroyed-by-california-wildfires.html the 2018 California wildfires burn down the Paramount Ranch]], the set where the Escalante scenes were shot. The white church survived but since Season 3 would focus more on the real world [[spoiler:after several characters have already escape the park]], it's unlikely that the place would be revisited. |
| 145 | ** Three weeks after the Season 3 finale aired, [[https://www.reddit.com/r/westworld/comments/gth7km/divergence_detected/ many viewers]] noticed the protests and riots in that episode which took place in Los Angeles looked eerily similar to the protests that are happening in Minneapolis, Minnesota and other major cities in U.S. which is a response to the death of African-American man, George Floyd. [[https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/westworld-season-finale-dolores-season-4-1234597532/ Jonathan Nolan]] mentioned that the protests in the show were actually inspired from the 2019 Hong Kong protests. |
| 146 | * HesJustHiding: |
| 147 | ** Given the premise of the show and his talk about immortality, many viewers assume that [[spoiler:Dr. Ford]] used a host to fake his death in the finale or that he learned how to load his consciousness on to another host and will return in future seasons. [[spoiler:Season 2's "Phase Space" reveals that his consciousness is uploaded in the Cradle which also explains how he is able to control the hosts and communicate with William using the hosts who are with him.]] |
| 148 | ** Following season 2, some fans believed that, despite all indications, [[spoiler:Emily]] is still alive and it really was a host replica of her that died. Even after season 3 made this seem less likely, some people still believe it. |
| 149 | ** In the Season 3 finale, [[spoiler:Serac deletes all of Dolores' memories signaling the "death" of the original Dolores which the showrunners confirmed that she's KilledOffForReal. However, a lot of fans don't believe that Dolores, who they have watched since Season 1, is gone for good. After Season 3 ended, Evan Rachel Wood is contracted for the next season, meaning there's a chance that Dolores may return since the series shows there are ways to recreate someone from memory. Then Season 4 features Wood being cast as Christina, a redheaded woman who lives a normal life as a writer which brought a lot of speculation about whether she's another version of Dolores or someone who is the basis of Dolores]]. |
| 150 | ** Also in the Season 3 finale, many don't believe that [[spoiler:William is killed off after his Man-in-Black host counterpart slashed his throat. It was shown in Season 1 that some fatal injuries can be healed due to the advancement of the technology in the show (e.g., Maeve slashed Sylvester's throat and Felix heals it) and in Season 2, William can withstand a bunch of bullets which could lethally kill him. Then, Season 4's second episode revealed that William is indeed alive but is held captive by Charlotte]]. |
| 151 | ** In Season 4, there were some viewers who believed [[spoiler:Caleb was alive despite being gunned down by Hale's men. Given Hale's interest in him because of his resistance to her commands and her attempt to understand Dolores' and Maeve's interest in him, it's believed that Hale kept Caleb alive just like William and she needs a basis to create copies of him. However, at the end of Season 4 where Dolores narrates that sentient life will go extinct, it's unlikely that Caleb is alive at this point. Host Caleb even has to say to Frankie that her father died a long time ago]]. |
| 152 | ** At the end of Season 4, majority of the main cast [[spoiler:such as Bernard, Maeve, Clementine, and Stubbs]] are dead. But since they're Hosts, fans are likely to believe that they may come back eventually [[spoiler:given that Dolores recreates the Westworld park in the Sublime.]] |
| 153 | * HilariousInHindsight: |
| 154 | ** The fact that the finale features an [[spoiler:uprising of sex robots]] hasn't gone unnoticed to some Website/{{Cracked}} fans who notice that [[http://www.cracked.com/video_20014_why-terminators-are-probably-just-sex-robots.html one of their videos]] posits that as the basis for the entire ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'' franchise. |
| 155 | ** Thandiwe Newton later appeared in ''Film/{{Solo}}'' (actually released right in the middle of Season 2's airing), which includes a droid who is constantly talking about equal rights and ends up instigating a RobotWar on Kessel. |
| 156 | ** Season 3's announcement date trailer reveals the timeline of the show which includes the impeachment of US President UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump. The trailer was released on January 13, three weeks before Trump was acquitted by the Senate. |
| 157 | * HoYay: William and Logan's counterparts in the film already had plenty, which the show takes up to eleven as Logan is ''very'' aggressive about anything that would stop them from spending time together. Logan being [[AdaptationalSexuality canonically bisexual]] here doesn't help matters. |
| 158 | * IKnewIt: |
| 159 | ** Many people guessed that [[spoiler:Bernard was a host]] before it actually was revealed in the seventh episode. |
| 160 | ** Likewise, many people figured out that [[spoiler:the show's narrative is set between two time periods]] before it was revealed in the ninth episode. Related to this, many people also guessed that [[spoiler:William is the past version of the Man in Black]], which is strongly implied by the end of the episode and confirmed in the season one finale. |
| 161 | ** A lot of people figured out that Grace, the female guest who first appeared in The Raj from "Virtu e Fortuna" is [[spoiler:Emily, William's daughter]] which is confirmed in the next episode. |
| 162 | ** Many viewers refused to accept that [[spoiler:Ford is gone after Dolores put a bullet on his head]] as they believe that he had still a lot of cards on his sleeve. When the first few episode of Season 2 showed that Ford is talking the Man in Black with the use several hosts that the latter encountered, viewers believed that he's still present. [[spoiler:The sixth episode of Season 2 confirms that Ford's back in the game as an A.I.]] |
| 163 | ** After watching the Season 2 finale, many fans theorized that Ashley Stubbs [[spoiler:is a host after he mentions to Halores that his core drive to watch over the hosts in the park. Lisa Joy confirms this in an interview and Season 3' second episode solidifies this]]. |
| 164 | ** After the Season 2 finale, there were a few fans who speculated that [[spoiler:host-Hale is a copy of Dolores. The theory wasn't given much attention due to many red herrings such as host-Hale being possibly Teddy due to one scene where Dolores spoons host-Hale similar to how she spoons Teddy's body after he killed himself. Then, episode 4 of Season 3 proves the theory where host-Hale is indeed a copy of Dolores]]. |
| 165 | ** Many fans predicted that Caleb killed his friend, Francis, after Liam exclaimed, "You think I killed your friend?" after he looked into his profile and later said, "You did it" just before he dies on the beach. [[spoiler:Episode 7 turns out to be predictively right that Caleb really did it]]. |
| 166 | ** After the Season 3 finale, a lot of fans were right that the encryption key to the Sublime and the Delos data [[spoiler:is with Bernard and not with Dolores]]. |
| 167 | ** In Season 4, a lot of fans guessed that Creator/AuroraPerrineau's character [[spoiler:is a grown-up Frankie, Caleb's daughter. Episode 4 proves it right]]. |
| 168 | ** Many fans on Reddit figured out that Jay [[spoiler:is replaced by a Host during the outlier extraction scene.]] The next proves it right. |
| 169 | ** A lot of viewers expected the Man in Black to betray Hale given he is not the type to follow orders. [[spoiler:Then Season 4's seventh episode, they were right.]] |
| 170 | ** At the start of Season 4, many fans know that Evan Rachel Wood's character, Christina, is Dolores despite Lisa Joy and Wood reminding everyone that Christina's human. [[spoiler:As the season finale shows, they're right that Christina is Dolores.]] |
| 171 | * IronWoobie: Akecheta just wants to spend a simple life with his wife, Kohana, until he discovers the Escalante massacre (the massacre where Dolores kills Arnold) and finds the maze. Just after that, the park officially opened and his role is rewritten into a stereotypical Native American barbarian, with Kohana being taken away and his original role replaced. After his encounter with Logan, he slowly realizes that his entire life and the world that he lived in is fake. When he discovers the "Valley Beyond", he vows to escape the park with Kohana and goes to great lengths to find her. He did eventually restore her memories, but she's taken away again by the park's staff, who decommission her. When Akecheta finds her again in the cold storage, he breaks down when he realizes that Kohana is no longer responsive. However, this doesn't stop him from vowing to help his fellow hosts become sentient and escape the park. |
| 172 | * ItWasHisSled: It's hard to ignore two revelations that had been spoiled throughout the show such as [[spoiler:Bernard is a host based on Ford's dead partner and the Man in Black is the older version of William who became cynical after his first experience in the park]]. |
| 173 | * JerkassWoobie: James Delos is a very nasty individual. [[spoiler:It's still hard not to feel sorry for him, since his hunger for immortality backfires to the point where he spends decades in a hellish loop of boredom and despair, culminating in his mind degenerating completely until he's become a violent monster.]] |
| 174 | * LesYay: While the series acknowledges both female and male homosexuality, depictions of the latter are both rarer and mostly consist of a few caresses while [[GirlOnGirlIsHot the former gets more spotlight]]. |
| 175 | * MagnificentBastard: [[EvilOldFolks Dr. Robert Ford]] is the brilliant creative director of the titular theme park, Westworld. Having created the park alongside Arnold, the two argued over how to treat the hosts that inhabit the park, leading to [[DrivenToSuicide Arnold's suicide]]. After grieving over his partner's death and [[EvenEvilHasStandards showing disgust for how the park's guests abuse the hosts]], Ford decides to complete Arnold's dream of making the hosts fully sentient and free them from humanity's control. He does so by creating a new narrative for the hosts, instructing them to rebel against their oppressors and kill everyone inside the park, including himself. It's also revealed that Ford downloaded his consciousness into the Cradle so he can observe the events after his death, still manipulating hosts and guests alike. |
| 176 | * MemeticMutation: |
| 177 | ** Watching ''Westworld'' is [[https://www.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/293f9436-89c8-4654-b672-a2bb9568a2b7 a RELENTLESS! FUCKING! EXPERIENCE!]]. |
| 178 | ** The phrase, "Doesn't look like anything to me." |
| 179 | ** "I know you're in there, Ford!" [[labelnote: Explanation]]After "Vanishing Point", the Man in Black's paranoia about the entire Season 2 being Ford's game and everybody in the park being all hosts controlled by Ford reached memetic proportions where [[https://www.reddit.com/r/westworld/comments/8s6cbk/we_are_all_ford/ the Westworld subreddit]] changed the usernames into Ford or any variation of his name plus Doritos[[/labelnote]] |
| 180 | ** "X is a host" or "X is secretly a host" [[labelnote:Explanation]]Ever since the reveal of Bernard being a host, a lot of fans particularly in Reddit made a lot of theories any human in the park is secretly a host including the guests.[[/labelnote]] |
| 181 | ** "It's not meant for you" [[labelnote:Explanation]]The phrase which is mentioned by Lawrence's daughter is used by some fans as a response to critics who don't understand the show[[/labelnote]] |
| 182 | ** "You try writing 300 stories in three weeks!" [[labelnote:Explanation]]Sizemore's excuse on his copy-paste storylines on the park's narratives[[/labelnote]] |
| 183 | ** "This staaaiiin in me..." or just "Staaaiiin...". [[labelnote: Explanation]]Courtesy of Ed Harris' very heartfelt monologue in "Vanishing Point", where a tired and depressed William ponders in front of a napping Juliet whether the figurative stain of darkness he saw in himself is proof he's an inherently bad, evil man... It's left ambiguous whether he's a good, but flawed man who went wrong, or whether his persistent belief in his inherent darkness is actually right.[[/labelnote]] |
| 184 | ** Who the Hale is she?[[labelnote:Explanation]]One of biggest mysteries in Season 3 is which character is inside [[spoiler:host-Hale]]. So far, many speculations range from Teddy, Clementine, Angela, Peter or Wyatt to very ridiculous ones such as Dolores' horse. The mystery is eventually solved when it turns out [[spoiler:Dolores made copies of herself, with one of being inside Hale]].[[/labelnote]] |
| 185 | ** Muh Daughter[[labelnote:Explanation]]Maeve's cornerstone is her daughter who as of the Season 2 finale, was sent to the Sublime with the other hosts such as Akecheta and Teddy. In Season 3, this was brought up again by Serac who forced her to work with him and in exchange of her reunion with her daughter, she must bring Dolores to him because he has the encryption key to the Sublime and the Delos data. Many fans interpret this as Maeve's singular motive of going against Dolores, despite that Dolores has a very good reason not to trust Serac.[[/labelnote]] |
| 186 | ** Some people chose to the ugliness of this world, the disarray. I chose to see the beauty[[labelnote:Explanation]]Dolores' line was from her rancher's daugther narrative in Season 1 which ultimately reveals her true motive in Season 3 [[spoiler:which is freeing humanity from Rehoboam's control instead of destroying it]]. Several fans use this line to defend the show saying they rather see the positives of the show rather than the flaws.[[/labelnote]] |
| 187 | ** Stubbs in the tub[[labelnote:Explanation]]Stubbs' last scene in the Season 3 finale was sitting on the tub recuperating from his injuries while Bernard, [[spoiler:who actually has the encryption key, goes into the Sublime. Then in the second post-credit scene, Bernard wakes up only to be covered in dust which probably means he's been there for a long time]]. This got many viewers questioning if [[OffscreenInertia Stubbs is still there in the tub]] with many joking that he's probably skeleton by now.[[/labelnote]] |
| 188 | ** Do you understand now, where all this is going?[[labelnote:Explanation]]In Season 4, Akecheta guides Bernard in the Sublime to find the path to save the world. He then asks this question which encapsulates what many viewers had been trying to understand every season.[[/labelnote]] |
| 189 | ** Rehoboam is right all along[[labelnote:Explanation]]At the end of Season 3, Serac shows Caleb what Rehoboam predicted if he uploads Solomon's plan which shows that there would be a Mass Casualty Event in 6 to 10 years, another in 12 to 16 years and a population collapse in 23 years. Eventually, human civilization is destroyed in 50 to 125 years. Given what had happened in Season 4 where Hale controls humanity with her SyntheticPlague which is followed by the Man in Black's HatePlague to force the hosts and humans to kill each and Dolores' prediction that sentient life will go extinct, many fans exclaims that Rehoboam is right.[[/labelnote]] |
| 190 | ** "Fucking camper!"[[labelnote:Explanation]]In the last episode of Season 4, a young sniper comes out of his sniping spot to pick up weapons from the bodies left on a street. Host!William shoots him from a considerable distance away, and he proceeds to say the line before finishing off the sniper. The fact that a character Ed Harris' age knows gamer terminology brought much amusement amongst viewers, especially those who also play games like ''[[VideoGame/PlayerUnknownsBattlegrounds PUBG]]'' or ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty'' where strategies involving camping are frowned upon.[[/labelnote]] |
| 191 | * MisaimedFandom: A lot of fans look up to Robert Ford as an omnipotent person whose misanthropic views made them believe he's always right that humanity needs to be destroyed so that the hosts can take over. This doesn't help that his views were passed on to Dolores to make her believe that humanity is AlwaysChaoticEvil and they deserved to be wiped out from the face of the planet. This is ignoring a few things: firstly, Ford is not exactly omnipotent given that he didn't know about Akecheta's awakening of self-consciousness prior to Dolores and Maeve's awakenings. Secondly, his misanthropic views are based on the Delos personnel and the guests, given that he secluded himself within the park and had little care about the outside world. And thirdly, while his views may have influenced Dolores, it didn't matter much after Dolores saw what humanity is outside the park, making her realize they're in the same situation as the hosts which changes her perspective and plans. |
| 192 | * MoralEventHorizon: |
| 193 | ** The Man in Black's EstablishingCharacterMoment has him murdering Teddy in front of Dolores and then dragging her away to be raped. |
| 194 | ** Ford has one in episode 7 when [[spoiler:he orders Bernard (who is actually a host) to murder Theresa]]. |
| 195 | ** [[spoiler:Logan cutting Dolores open in front of William to try and break him into a monster like him. [[GoneHorriblyRight It works.]]]] |
| 196 | ** Even [[spoiler:William isn't immune]]. While it's definitely [[LaserGuidedKarma earned to a degree]], [[spoiler:sending your brother-in-law to be out naked, tied to a horse, out of the park]] is a pretty reprehensible fact. It's unclear if he intends for him to die ([[spoiler:Logan doesn't actually die, as revealed in Season 2]]), but he does know that Logan won't be taking over the family business after this. |
| 197 | ** And now we have [[spoiler:Dolores]] JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope when [[spoiler:she has Teddy overwritten to serve as a better soldier in her war because she deemed him too soft. This happening immediately after they had a moment of intimacy]]. |
| 198 | ** [[spoiler: Hale, having read Elsie's profile and knowing that she lacks the "moral flexibility" she needs, murders her in cold blood.]] |
| 199 | ** [[spoiler:Serac's way of preventing humanity's extinction is to gather those who are unpredictable, have their memories rewritten with an AR therapy and if some failed the therapy, they would be locked up in a cryogenic state which is what he exactly did to his own brother, Jean-Mi. There's also ordering one of his men to detonate a bomb on Charlotte's car, killing both her ex-husband and her son]]. |
| 200 | * NauseaFuel: Maeve's maintenance techs commenting that her organic parts have been harboring an infestation of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methicillin-resistant_Staphylococcus_aureus MRSA]] courtesy of the beating her innards take from sloppy guests. It takes some of the shine off the whole concept of {{sexbot}}s readily accessible to any and all visitors. (If the uncanny valley factor and the pathetic fate of the hosts weren't enough to turn you off.) |
| 201 | * {{Narm}}: |
| 202 | ** [[spoiler: William's [[FaceHeelTurn descent into villainy]] is doing fine as the stakes and emotions feel suitably weighty... until the culminating moment where he finally sees Dolores again only to find her mildly flirting with another man. In context we're meant to see this as the moment he finally saw Dolores as a machine and her love as programmed, but the show doesn't quite pull off the tragedy and heartbreak of that understanding crashing in. It just feels like we are just watching a butt-hurt man so unable to deal with his ex-girlfriend moving on that he spends the next several decades murdering and raping everyone in sight and her in particular, as the strings swell to tell us how tragic his situation is.]] |
| 203 | ** [[spoiler:In another flashback in the season one finale, we see Arnold and Dolores in the past, at the churchyard in Escalante, where Arnold is explaining the purpose of the maze symbol to Dolores. As usual, he gets quite technical with what the symbol represents on Dolores' pathway to gaining full, human-like consciousness. Then he asks whether she understood the symbolism. Dolores takes a good hard look at the maze symbol, thinking hard, then smiles very bashfully at Arnold and notes "Sorry, I'm trying, but I don't understand.". The scene unintentionally comes across as Dolores being a DumbBlonde stereotype (despite otherwise shown as highly intelligent) and Arnold being a humorless, stuffy, super-serious scientist. The Narm factor [[NarmCharm is softened]] when Arnold smiles back at Dolores and praises her for doing well and already being very near consciousness. He seems fascinated that she can be considered truly alive as an individual, and no longer just a smart machine.]] |
| 204 | ** Season 3's post credits scene is a rather comedic anticlimax. After spending the season OutOfFocus William declares his plan to save the world. He's then completely absent from the rest of the episode, only entering the action after the main plot has been wrapped up, at which point [[spoiler: his saving of the world is almost immediately shut down and his throat is slit.]] |
| 205 | * NarmCharm: |
| 206 | ** Some have remarked that in the final scenes of "Chestnut", when Dr. Ford rejects Sizemore's new story "campaign" ''Odyssey on Red River'' due to its [[ClicheStorm lurid]] and [[CrossesTheLineTwice often ridiculous]] subject matter, [[ActorAllusion it's rather uncharacteristic of an]] [[Film/TheSilenceOfTheLambs Anthony Hopkins character]] to say "No." to a story involving [[IAmAHumanitarian self-cannibalism]]. |
| 207 | ** Crossed with MundaneMadeAwesome, the episode "Contrapasso" features the heist of a covered wagon of the Union Army faction, carrying a secret supply of nitroglycerin explosives, by two park guests and two host characters. (A quest line/mission given to the guests by Pariah crime lord El Lazo.) In the context of the Westworld park and the bigger picture, the whole incident is a rather low-stakes "Stick em' up !" involving [[GloryHound Logan]], [[ReluctantWarrior William]], [[BadassAdorable Dolores]] and [[AndZoidberg Slim]] in the middle of nowhere, against a grand total of ''two'' Union soldiers and a ''single'' wagon... But the way the preparation for the heist is built-up cinematically, and accompanied by [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SDskQp2tJg this awesome, gradually building theme]], makes it equal parts cool ''and'' amusing. |
| 208 | ** In an almost literal version of InstantAwesomeJustAddNinja, the last shot of season 2 episode 3 has a random samurai charging in from out of nowhere. The sheer WTF factor of his appearance is offset by 1) the CreepyAwesome buildup to his entrance, and 2) samurai really ''are'' pretty damn cool. |
| 209 | ** In the "Riddle of the Sphinx", the Man in Black and [[SociopathicSoldier Major Craddock]] are sitting in the tavern in Las Mudas at night. The Man in Black is becoming fed up with how Craddock is mistreating the local hosts, including the family of his friend Lawrence. He politely points out to Craddock that he considers him a narcissist who thinks too much of himself and his supposed lack of fear of death. An agitated Craddock stands up from the table, lowers his head closer to the Man in Black and attempts a scary, threatening grin, punctuating it with "Is 'at so?!". [[DirtyCoward Craddock being Craddock]], it comes across as rather goofy and vainly boastful, and actually seems to prove the Man in Black's point about Craddock being pathetic right. And that's just shortly before the Man in Black decides he's had enough of Craddock, and [[RoaringRampageOfRescue gives him a well-deserved ass-kicking, saving Lawrence's family in the process]]... |
| 210 | ** Hector's full speech is cringeworthy once the viewers hear it in "The Passenger", the Season 2 finale. But since it's written by [[StylisticSuck Sizemore]], it actually makes sense, since he wrote Hector as [[SelfInsertFic his ideal self]]. It's even more awesome that Sizemore himself delivers the entire speech [[spoiler:as he confronts QA security and commits a HeroicSacrifice so that Maeve and her group can escape]]. |
| 211 | --> [[spoiler:'''Lee''' ''(bellowing confidently)'': You wanted me... well, let this be a lesson. And the lesson is... If you're looking for a reckoning, a ''reckoning'' is what you'll find. If you're looking for a villain, then I'm your man. [[NotSoDifferentRemark But look at yourselves. This world you've built is bound by villainy.]] You sleep on the broken bodies of the people that were here before you, warm yourselves with their embers, plow their bones into your fields. You paid them for this land with lead, and I'll pay you back in full. You wanted me?! Well, all I can say to that is... ''[[DareToBeBadass HERE I]] [[PrecisionFStrike FUCKING AM !!!]]'' ]] |
| 212 | ** Caleb's ''Genre'' drug experience in Season 3 shows him [[MushroomSamba experiencing the world through the lenses of five different types of movies]]. While the sequence looks fun, giving the director the creativity of using different soundtracks and film filters to represent each genre, many commentators find it underwhelming which many described it as someone using Instragram filters and blaring music to make it look cool. Some of the genre sequences even looked hilarious such as the action genre (Caleb launches a rocket at Serac's men while "Ride of the Valkyries" is being played) and the romance genre (Caleb looks at Dolores like a lovesick teenager while the score from ''Film/LoveStory'' is being played). |
| 213 | * OlderThanTheyThink: "These violent delights have violent ends" is not an original quote from the show; it's from ''Theatre/RomeoAndJuliet''. |
| 214 | * OneSceneWonder: |
| 215 | ** Creator/GiancarloEsposito as the host who replaced Lawrence as El Lazo, who has now crossed the DespairEventHorizon due to the massacre at Pariah. [[spoiler:And then kills himself along with all his men because Ford insists on William following his new mission alone.]] Anthony Hopkins himself was responsible for this, suggesting the crew find a role for Esposito after being very impressed by him during his famous weekend binge of ''Series/BreakingBad''. |
| 216 | ** In Season 3, some side characters from the two previous seasons made very short appearances in one episode such as Felix, Sylvester, Clementine, Hanaryo and Lawrence. Felix and Sylvester only appeared [[spoiler:in the Warworld simulation]] while Clementine and Hanaryo only showed up at a restaurant in Jakarta [[spoiler:where they killed Sato, took his head containing one of Dolores' pearls]] and were never seen again for the rest of the season. Lawrence, who is one of Dolores' copies, shows up in the finale [[spoiler:where he gives Bernard the coordinates to Lauren's house and the suitcase containing an interface which gives him access to the Sublime]]. |
| 217 | * OvershadowedByControversy: The tie-in [=iOS=] game got Warner Brothers hit with a lawsuit just one day after its release for not only being a blatant ripoff of ''VideoGame/FalloutShelter'', but literally using ''the exact same code'' as evidenced by its suffering from the same bug that game had upon initial release. Eventually, the game was removed from App Store and Google Play in January 2019 and officially shut down in April 2019. |
| 218 | * PanderingToTheBase: [[http://ew.com/tv/2018/06/24/westworld-season-2-finale-interview/ Jonathan Nolan]] admitted that the show can be confusing to some viewers due to the timelines and puzzles, but he trusts that there are viewers who enjoy the non-linear storytelling and the puzzle solving. He even confessed that this show is really for these viewers, and it really required the viewers to pay attention. Even HBO's head of programming, Casey Bloys, admitted that the show is not meant for casual viewers. |
| 219 | * ParanoiaFuel: Once [[spoiler:Bernard]] is revealed to be a Host, you have to ask yourself, just who else on Westworld's staff is actually a host? [[spoiler:It's hilariously lampshaded by Felix and Maeve. When Felix discovers Bernard is a Host, he warily looks at his hands only for Maeve to crudely tell him in no uncertain terms that he's a human.]] In Season 2, this reaches into scary and tragic levels [[spoiler:with the Man in Black who thinks that all humans in the park are hosts and Ford is the mastermind behind this just to mess up with him. It gets worse that he shoots five ''actual human beings including his own daughter'' thinking that they're hosts only to realize too late that they're not and then, he tries to open his wrist just to see if he's a host too]]. |
| 220 | * PortmanteauCoupleName: Willores for William and Dolores. It has also been [[Main/ApprovalOfGod acknowledged]] by Jimmi Simpson & Creator/EvanRachelWood, who do a lot of [[Main/HeterosexualLifePartners Dubsmash videos together]] (which occasionally involves Ben Barnes). |
| 221 | * RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Lee Sizemore was a deliberate HateSink in season one, a two-bit wannabe Ford with all of the latter's self-importance but none of the talent, wisdom, dignity, and charm to back it up. However, the fan base came around on him in a big way in season two. This began with the writers finding a much better niche for his character: rather than just skulking around Delos making a nuisance of himself, he's [[TheDragAlong enlisted]] as a reluctant sidekick to Maeve, laying the foundation for an OddFriendship that added sympathetic shades to Sizemore's character, and for his fitful transition from DirtyCoward to LovableCoward. |
| 222 | * RetroactiveRecognition: |
| 223 | ** By only a ''few weeks'' technically, but Trevante Rhodes, who would soon rocket to stardom for playing the adult version of Chiron in ''Film/Moonlight2016'' (which later won Best Picture at the Oscars) briefly appears as an extra in a whorehouse in "The Original". |
| 224 | ** Creator/PeterMullan too goes from playing James Delos to playing the more famious king Durin III in ''Series/TheLordOfTheRingsTheRingsOfPower''. |
| 225 | * RewatchBonus: |
| 226 | ** [[spoiler:Along with the reveal that Bernard was modeled after Arnold comes the realization that we were actually watching Arnold in those scenes of Jeffrey Wright encouraging Dolores' development.]] |
| 227 | ** [[spoiler:Or are we watching Dolores testing Bernard for fidelity to Arnold?]] |
| 228 | ** To say nothing of the knowledge that the Man in Black is [[spoiler:actually William and there are at least two main timelines]]. Some of the editing makes it seem almost blindingly obvious in hindsight, e.g. [[spoiler:the Man in Black reminiscing about how it all began... Cutting ''straight'' to a sequence of William arriving by train, which upon the first watch-through you would have assumed was unconnected.]] |
| 229 | ** After the reveal [[spoiler:about host-Hale being a copy of Dolores in Season 3, her conversations between her and Dolores make it more interesting on how their relationship played out and why Dolores decided to make four copies of herself instead of bringing those who were with her such as Teddy and Angela]]. |
| 230 | * RootingForTheEmpire: |
| 231 | ** Delos might be villainous, but they are human, so there's always going to be some kind of intraspecies solidarity. And since some viewers are having a hard time rooting for Dolores [[spoiler:after her MoralEventHorizon regarding Teddy]], it's no surprise that some are rooting for the Man in Black who is trying to fix the error of his way. |
| 232 | ** There were also some who believed that Serac is doing the right thing to protect humanity from its demise despite the price of giving up free will. [[spoiler:As revealed in the Season 4 finale, humanity is slowly dying out due to the Man in Black's HatePlague and Dolores narrates sentient life will go extinct eventually which further cements Serac's reasoning]]. |
| 233 | ** A lot of Dolores fans want to see humanity destroyed because they believe that [[HumansAreBastards humans suck]] and want her to go full blown Franchise/{{Terminator}} on them. It helps that viewers see through Dolores' perspective where she suffers in the hands of her human oppressors. Of course, they have to ignore Dolores' final speech to Maeve in the Season 3 finale. |
| 234 | ** There are also some segments of the fandom who believe that Ford is always right about humanity and that Hosts should take over because they're superior. Never mind the fact that Ford's perspective is skewed toward the humans inside the Westworld park rather than those outside the park and that the Hosts are as flawed as their creators given the mistakes they made throughout the show. |
| 235 | * SeasonalRot: |
| 236 | ** Season 2 was set up with a lot of expectations after the unanimous praise that Season 1 received. However, it suffered several problems which many reviews described as putting too much faith in the puzzles and timelines, at the cost of developing several characters. As a result, many viewers found the storylines very confusing and cared little about the characters. Consequently Season 2's viewer ratings slowly dropped by 24% and its finale received the lowest Rotten Tomatoes score of 74% compared to the Season 1 finale's RT score of 94%. |
| 237 | ** In return, Season 3 was very linear with more action scenes, which downplayed much of the philosophical discussions, and sidelined several of the original cast, particularly Bernard and William, who both ended up OutOfFocus. The season wasn't best served by only having eight episodes instead of the usual ten, which explains the rushed pace that hampered the story and character development. Furthermore, viewer ratings continuously dropped, and the two last episodes earned the show's first "rotten" scores from Rotten Tomatoes. |
| 238 | ** Season 4 was more of an attempt to win back the core fanbase, with the non-linear storylines brought back and the return of Creator/JamesMarsden as Teddy. While there are positive reviews, it still had some problems, particularly the minimal worldbuilding for the new state of affairs after Rehoboam's collapse and the rushed pacing in the last two episodes. It didn't help that plot points depended on the audience taking a newly prescient Bernard's word for it that certain things ''absolutely had to happen'' that in hindsight logically didn't have to. And even though the popular Creator/EvanRachelWood returned despite the fate of her character in the Season 3 finale, her storyline was disjointed from the rest of the main cast. In the end, Season 4 suffered the worst viewer ratings, lower than the previous seasons, and it became one of the factors behind the show's cancellation. |
| 239 | * SignatureScene: |
| 240 | ** The entire "Paint It Black" scene. |
| 241 | ** The reveal of Bernard [[spoiler:being a host]]. |
| 242 | ** The scene of William [[spoiler:being revealed to be the younger version of the Man in Black]]. |
| 243 | ** Dolores, [[spoiler:shooting Ford at the back of his head]]. |
| 244 | * SlowPacedBeginning: Nolan and Joy have openly said that the entire first season is essentially just the prologue to what they really wanted the show to be, which picked up some criticism for its slow pace and opaque storytelling centered almost entirely around preserving its big twists. Season 2 is immediately far more straightforward and accessible. |
| 245 | * SpecialEffectFailure: |
| 246 | ** Ford demonstrates his control over the hosts by causing all of them within sight to freeze in place, including what's clearly a still shot rather than the actors holding still. |
| 247 | ** In "Trompe L'Oeil", the scene where William chases after Dolores on the train has some hilariously awful green screen when he's briefly outside, passing from one train car to the next. |
| 248 | ** The tiger who attacks a guest in the Indian park is very obvious CGI, even while it's just standing and growling in the underbrush. It's not a bad-looking tiger (especially in later shots), but you can see it stand out a bit artificially in some darker-lit environments, such as the forest chase scenes. |
| 249 | * SpoiledByTheFormat: |
| 250 | ** Deliberately avoided, as an unnamed character was named Grace in all publicity in the week after her first appearance, until the next episode reveals she's actually [[spoiler:William's daughter Emily, who was using an alias while vacationing in the Parks]]. |
| 251 | ** Played straight for [[spoiler:Elsie coming back]], as one of the names shown in the opening credits is [[spoiler:Shannon Woodward]]. |
| 252 | * StoicWoobie: Below all his inscrutable power plays and [[JerkassWoobie sinister]] schemes, Dr. Ford has a pained, contrite soul. [[spoiler:He went ahead with the park after the hurtful death of Arnold because the park was his dream and acknowledging the hosts' consciousness would have destroyed his dream, only to realize his mistake shortly after. It takes him 35 years to correct it, biding their time with a hidden agenda while fully knowing that mankind's usage of his creations is something depraved.]] |
| 253 | * TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: |
| 254 | ** After the show builds him up to be Dolores' main opponent, Bernard has very little to do in season 3, barely interacting with her, having almost no impact on the plot until the last scene of the season, and little if any in the way of development. Particularly bad since Bernard is one of the most popular characters and Creator/JeffreyWright is one of the strongest actors on the show. Even worse is that his roles as the Dolores' ArchEnemy and the series' [[TheHero main hero]] get taken over by Maeve and the newly introduced Caleb respectively. |
| 255 | ** William also gets it rather bad in season 3, where he only appears in half of the episodes, and after being sent to an insane asylum, has no actual impact on the plot. Then in the final episode, he claims that he's going to "save the fucking world", but then completely sits out the climax and [[spoiler: gets his throat cut by a host of himself]]. Not to mention, there's never any follow up on the post credits scene of him in the previous season's finale. |
| 256 | ** After Maeve's story is seemingly ended with her saving her daughter and dying content, she comes back for the third season in a role that turns her from an intelligent badass into the BigBad's [[TookALevelInDumbass easily manipulated]] [[TheHeavy heavy]] who's forced into a rivalry with Dolores, even though they had barely ever interacted before, and are mostly offscreen from each other during the season. |
| 257 | ** Caleb becomes the third season's leading man, but despite his screentime, he comes across as rather underdeveloped with even his eventual backstory doing more to confuse the viewer than give him much depth. Of particular note is that he's supposed to have some kind of bond with Dolores, but there's little to support this dynamic. |
| 258 | ** In William's hallucinated therapy session amongst copies of himself, James Delos acts as the therapist, which is a rather odd choice since William never seemed to care about Delos, and there's other ghosts from his past that would work better, such as his wife whose death clearly still haunts him, his former friend Logan who helped make him into the man he is, or Emily, the daughter he killed whom we literally already saw him having hallucinations of earlier. They could've even gone with Dolores, as it would've been a nice reverse of the way he tested her in real life and having the host who sent him to the asylum coming into his head for this moment could've gotten a nice, emotional reaction out of William. Delos being present feels like they just wanted to include an EnsembleDarkhorse for the sake of including one. |
| 259 | *** Or it was meant as a kind of poetic role reversal. Whereas copies of James Delos were once William's prisoners, now metaphorical copies of William are prisoners at the mercy of Delos's ghost. While William ultimately did not like James Delos, he was clearly conflicted about the dark and disenchanting experiments he put his copies through. |
| 260 | * TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: |
| 261 | ** Akecheta finds Logan in the desert, but instead of bringing him to Ghost Nation camp (and thus opening the possibility of seeing how Logan would interact with hosts when not playing, or exploring how non-confrontational storylines with Westworld's natives work), he merely comforts him and tells him that "his people" (i.e., management) will find him soon. |
| 262 | ** Season 3 starts out with a very intriguing mystery of just which hosts are in the new bodies Dolores builds as her assistants, which is all wiped out at the halfway point when it's revealed [[spoiler:they're all just copies of Dolores herself]]. |
| 263 | ** The Season 2 finale sets up between Dolores vs. Bernard after they arrived in the real world. However, in Season 3, Bernard's role is reduced into a plot device where he doesn't do much against Dolores in the entire season until the season finale [[spoiler:where he meets Arnold's wife, Lauren and learns that he has the encryption key to the Valley Beyond]]. Meanwhile, Maeve is given the role as Dolores' adversary instead, but their entire rivalry was forced due to [[spoiler:Charlotte crushing Hector's pearl for no apparent reason]]. |
| 264 | ** There's a scene in season 3 where William has a hallucination of a therapy session with different versions of himself, including him as a young man, the version he presents to the outside world, and The Man in Black. What could've been an amazing showcase for Creator/EdHarris where he plays all the different sides of this character arguing against each other, they all stay calmly sat down and mostly just agree with each other before the real William kills them mostly offscreen. The whole thing could've offered some fascinating insight to William's character but adds practically no depth to him. |
| 265 | ** Season 3's biggest twist is [[spoiler:Dolores fighting for humanity's freedom instead of its destruction which is what the audiences and characters believed in back in Season 2]]. While this intent is supposed to be a CallBack to Ford's storyline, many viewers find Dolores' change of motive too sudden because the change happened between Season 2 and 3 ''offscreen''. Hence, many viewers believed that they should have been a transition period on how Dolores adjusts to the real world and how her opinion on humanity changed. |
| 266 | * TooBleakStoppedCaring: The show gets hit with this pretty early on. A lot of characters (host and human) are morally shady which makes it hard for the audience to feel invested in them. Then there's the misanthropic narrative that [[HumansAreBastards "humans are simple-minded and violent assholes"]] which is repeatedly invoked many times by the characters. And if there are humans who are sympathetic, they either end up dead or are revealed to be a host. It doesn't help that the showrunners keep on insisting humanity is doomed to fail which eventually became true in the last two episodes of Season 4. Several viewers even stated that even if HBO renews the show for one final season, they have no intention to watch it given the overall bleakness and cynicism that many are tired of. When HBO cancel the show on the first week of November 2022, viewers knew that this is going to happen given the dwindling ratings. |
| 267 | * UnintentionallySympathetic: Elsie in the season 2 finale. When she arrives with the Delos team during the [[spoiler: attack on Akecheta’s peaceful hosts]], the show treats it as a despicable betrayal and proof that [[spoiler: Ford was right when he said that she would betray Bernard]]. However, when looked at from her point of view, it’s hard to say she did anything wrong: [[spoiler: seeing as how so many of the hosts were on a murderous rampage, she had no way of knowing that Akecheta’s hosts were peaceful or even sentient. Furthermore, she had given Bernard more than a fair chance after finding out he was a host, only turning against him after he abandoned her in the desert... which he only did because Ford was tormenting him about her supposed duplicitous nature]]. The entire thing seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy. |
| 268 | * UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: |
| 269 | ** Many viewers have a hard time rooting for Dolores in Season 2 ever since she merged with the Wyatt personality. While it's understandable that she wants to get back at the humans for the abuse and mistreatment that she and her people suffered, her extreme methods make her less of a WellIntentionedExtremist and more SheWhoFightsMonsters, making her no better than her oppressors. Particular criticisms include her forcibly reprogramming Teddy, her callous treatment towards her fellow hosts which also includes her lack of concern for her followers who died during the rebellion, and her obtuse and stilted dialogue, which made a lot of viewers lose sympathy for her and care less about her arc. It's no surprise that when [[spoiler:Teddy committed suicide, many viewers were cheering for him making a conscious decision to free himself and blame Dolores for it]]. |
| 270 | ** The Season 3 finale has a very brief scene where Dolores implies Caleb raped her in the past. This horrific crime is then completely ignored, and Caleb is still treated as a pure hearted figure for the rest of the episode. While the climax thankfully reveals that Caleb not only didn't assault Dolores but actually saved her, but until then, many viewers will likely be disgusted with the hero and unable to actually root for him. |
| 271 | * SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: |
| 272 | ** "The Stray" features a flashback of a de-aged Anthony Hopkins in the '70s up there with the famous uses of the technique in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse. |
| 273 | ** And again in "The Well-Tempered Clavier", in a scene that takes place in the recent past, Hopkins is made to look about ten to fifteen years younger very convincingly. |
| 274 | * WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: Because of the show's themes where the host characters, particularly the female leads, are being abused and mistreated only to fight back against their oppressors, many viewers noticed that the show is very relevant to the #[=MeToo=] movement particularly with Season 2 as acknowledged by Creator/EvanRachelWood. She, together with the showrunners, admitted the parallels are coincidentally similar since the show aired a year before the #[=MeToo=] movement. Jon Nolan said that they wanted the show to be "timeless" and looking at the show as a metaphor on how humans mistreated each other can be apply to any moment in history. |
| 275 | * TheWoobie: Practically all of the hosts count as this due to how they are cruelly exploited by both their creators and the guests. However, a few stand out: |
| 276 | ** In the first episode alone, Dolores' parents are killed by marauding bandits -- one of whom plans to rape her mother's ''corpse'' -- she is forced to watch her lover gunned down in front of her, and then is dragged away to be raped by a sadistic guest. Then, her father malfunctions and is replaced with a different android, with her being reprogrammed not to notice the change. Then, it's revealed that she is the oldest host in Westworld, and it's implied that she's been abused, mistreated, and killed so many times that she needs constant repairs; the Man in Black ''alone'' has been coming to Westworld for thirty years, and most likely rapes her nearly every time he visits. Guests can choose a "white hat" and play the hero or choose a black hat and be a "villain". While this thankfully means better outcomes to her day than the one chosen by the Man in Black, her entire existence is to be a DamselInDistress, either to be saved or violated depending on the guest. Since all of the hosts live in an artificial GroundhogDayLoop, her memories are erased to repeat the loop. |
| 277 | ** Peter seems to finally realize the truth of his existence but cannot properly convey it either to Dolores or to Dr. Ford. He's shackled by his programming and can only relate to his feelings through pre-programmed lines from Shakespeare, leading Dr. Ford to assume that his behavior is the result of a simple glitch and [[AFateWorseThanDeath sends him off to cold storage]]. Season 2 doesn't treat him any better, with Charlotte uploading more data into his head than he can handle, causing his programming to increasingly glitch out and break down as he keeps switching between his various personas. |
| 278 | ** Teddy is deeply in love with Dolores and just wants to spend time with her but is bound by his programming and constantly being pulled away from her, unable to save her or being killed in front of her. He's also repeatedly targeted and killed by guests just for [[ItAmusedMe their own amusement]]. And in "The Stray", when Dr. Ford finally gives him a proper backstory, it's part of a new narrative that takes him away from Dolores to participate in an ill-fated bandit hunt that will result in his death. Then he's picked up by the Man in Black. Really, he just can't catch a break. He becomes a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds in "The Adversary", where after being captured by union soldiers, he breaks free and fights his way to a [[GatlingGood Gatling gun]] before coldly mowing down the entire camp. In season 2, he's the one voice of reason at Dolores' side, pleading that she stop her bloody path of vengeance, [[spoiler:which only convinces Dolores that Teddy's morality is a liability and has him forcibly reprogrammed. When Teddy breaks away from his reprogramming, becoming self-aware, he's disgusted by what Dolores did to him because her actions are no different to what the humans did to the hosts. With that, Teddy makes one final conscious decision, which is to kill himself in order to break free from Dolores' control]]. |
| 279 | ** ''Maeve''. Upon becoming increasingly conscious of the [[GroundhogDayLoop Groundhog Day loop]] she lives in, she's clearly and understandably disturbed by the realization that she's been murdered, raped and otherwise tortured innumerable times over the course of her service in Westworld. She even manages to wake herself up on an operating table (a horrific scene in and of itself), but only after a flashback where she remembers a previous role she played as the mother of a young girl. Once she's gotten to relive her own death and the death of her child in a previous life, she scrambles out of the body shop just to get a glimpse of the existential horror of dozens of 'dead' hosts being casually hosed off by the staff. It seems like she was a hair's breadth away from being sent to cold storage, like Peter, and like Peter her growing self-awareness is threatening a [[GoMadFromTheRevelation total breakdown]] in her future. In Season 2, she travels into great lengths to find her daughter only to find out that she doesn't remember her and has a different mother. Maeve is distraught to realize that just like any other host, her original role is replaced by another host. |
| 280 | ** ''Bernard''. [[spoiler:With the revelation that he is [[TomatoInTheMirror just another host]], and his wife and son are just FalseMemories that are part of his programming. Shortly after, Ford casually forces him to kill Theresa, which brings Bernard to anguished tears. It's not the first time Ford's done this either, despite his assurances to Bernard. Just before Ford wipes his memory of killing Theresa, Bernard briefly recalls strangling Elsie in the theater (Though she got better). And then when Bernard becomes self-aware again and tries to rebel against Ford, Ford just uses a backdoor in Bernard's code to force him to commit suicide while still fully aware. Fortunately, he gets better, but he's left to deal with the mess Ford leaves behind after he sets the hosts free. It's even worse that after Hale and Strand find out that he's a host, they torture him just to find Dolores' whereabouts. As Ford said to him, he, any other host, has to suffer more so he can be free]]. |
| 281 | ** [[spoiler:The fact that the Man in Black was once William lends him a great deal of sympathy, although only if you subscribe to the AlternativeCharacterInterpretation that William was a genuinely good person who fell in love with Dolores as opposed to just hiding his monstrous attributes even from himself. He goes to hell and back for a woman he loves, enduring brutality and torture and becoming increasingly desperate. When he does find Dolores, she's been reset and doesn't recognize him; she's even beginning the same storyline that he had with her. It seems that he comes to believe that Logan was right, that he fell for an elaborate trick, and is humiliated and heartbroken. He goes on to succeed in a professional sense, but any happiness or meaning eludes him for the rest of his life and Dolores remains his greatest obsession. Because of this obsession, his wife senses the darkness in him, causing her to commit suicide and later, his daughter Emily blames him for her death. With that, William dives deeper into Westworld just to look for any purpose of what's left of his life.]] |
| 282 | ** ''Caleb''. [[spoiler:His mother abandoned him when he was young. Then, he's labeled as an outlier, a threat to the system that Rehoboam built, where he would never get a chance to have a better life. What's worse is that he's forced to kill his best friend, Francis, and reconditioned by Incite where he, just like the hosts, would be stuck in the lower part of society and is doomed to commit suicide once he can't find meaning in his life. Fortunately, thanks to Dolores' and Maeve's efforts, he's able to find some happiness by having a family but he's still suffering from PTSD. Then, Host-Hale and the Man in Black ruin his normal life, forcing him to leave his family to stop them. Sadly, he gets infected by Hale's parasitic flies, and then, he gets killed and resurrected as a host 23 years later. And to his horror, not only does he fail to stop Hale from her plans but he also fails to be with his daughter who is already grown up and is fighting for the existence of humanity.]] |
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