Line #2 YMMV/TheGiver


1	!!The book
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3	* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
4	** The book ''Deconstructing Penguins'' applies some FridgeLogic and points out that people don't lie unless they know what they are doing is wrong. The argument escalates until "Jonas is no longer running away from a place where everyone believes the same things and he's different. He's running away from a place of terrible corruption that desperately needs him as the one person who might be able to make things better." In-story, this is explained as the reason The Giver stays, and Jonas does not. One must leave for the memories to return, and the Giver is not as hale and is more experienced with comforting people.
5	** Was [[spoiler:Rosemary]] the Giver's biological or adopted daughter? It's never confirmed either way since it's possible that the Giver's sperm was used to create a successor, or that his spouse was a former Birthmother. If the Giver helped raise her, then it would explain why [[spoiler:her death devastated him, especially since he blamed himself for sharing painful memories]]. If it was biological, like Claire, later on, [[spoiler:he developed a paternal attachment to her and was watching from a distance and feared the worse when she applied for Release]].
6	* CommonKnowledge: The book is a novel about a futuristic society where everyone looks and acts the same... except it's not. People in the Community have distinct personalities, and government-mandated personality tests are actually a huge plot point. Technically, there ''are'' a handful of people in the Community with distinct looks (the protagonist and his love interest stand out for having blue eyes and red hair, respectively) though selective breeding by the government tries to prevent this. The Community's distinguishing features are its strict regulation of people's career paths and everyday lives, and its ban on strong emotions. It's a bit more complex than "Everyone is the same!"
7	* HarsherInHindsight:
8	** Early on in the book, it's stated that jokes about being ReleasedToElsewhere are met with a reprimand. Late in the book, we learn exactly why [[DeadlyEuphemism being Released]] is no laughing matter.
9	** One inspiration for the story was Lois Lowry's conversations with her son, a USAF fighter pilot, prior to the Persian Gulf War. Her son would later go on to die in a plane crash after the novel's publication. It gets harsher when you know the details and background events. The novel opens with a plane flying low over the community. A few years after the novel was published, a USAF pilot, who was known for low overflights and showing off, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Fairchild_Air_Force_Base_B-52_crash crashed his plane, killing all on board]]. Later in the novel, the Giver told Jonas of how wars had been started when planes were fired on by mistake. Also a few years after the novel was published, two US fighter jets misidentified two US Army Blackhawk helicopters and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Black_Hawk_shootdown_incident shot them down, killing all on board]]. These two incidents resulted in a push for greater accountability among USAF personnel. On May 30, 1995, Major Donald Lowry's F-15 crashed. The cause: two airmen had misconnected two control rods. The Air Force sought to prosecute the two airmen involved, despite evidence that the Air Force knew of the potential for such an accident and had done nothing to fix it. They sought the Lowry family to testify for stiff punishment of the men involved, but the Lowrys wrote a letter asking for leniency. The day the court-martial was to begin, one of the airmen charged left the base and headed to a wooded location he frequented. The airman's father and other Air Force personnel joined a search. The airman in question was in a hunting shack. As his commander approached, he shot himself in the head. He left a note for the Lowrys, in which he stated, [[http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,135113,00.html "I know I am going to heaven. And in heaven I cannot hurt anyone else, not even by accident."]]
10	** It can also be harsh in hindsight given how important results of Myers-Briggs personality tests are in TheNewTens when it comes to employment.
11	** In-story, the whole reason that Jonas [[spoiler:leaves is to save Gabriel from getting Released. When they start to starve during the journey, Jonas thinks that maybe they should have stayed but then Gabriel would have died. Three books later in ''Son'', we learn that Gabriel is the only one who can defeat the Trademaster. If Jonas had stayed, the Trademaster never would have been defeated]].
12	** Likewise, Jonas and Lily's mother rebukes Lily for saying she wants to be a Birthmother to spend time with the babies. She explains that Birthmothers don't actually spend time with the babies and are then relegated to menial labor; Jonas's father instead suggests that Lily could become a Nurturer, who ''do'' help rear the newborns. [[spoiler:''Son'' shows exactly how hard it is to be a Birthmother from Claire's perspective; it is quite traumatizing for a teenager and it gets worse for her when Gabriel goes missing]].
13	*** Not to mention, if Lily had become a nurturer, she would have to Release twins, babies who wouldn't fit into the Community, etc.
14	* HilariousInHindsight: Not so much hilarious as mildly amusing, but the concept of a colorless, controlled world slowly becoming colorful as it becomes more complex, at least from Jonas's perspective, would later be done again in a more widespread way in ''Film/{{Pleasantville}}''.
15	* InferredHolocaust:
16	** Not so much inferred as shown in flashbacks; the Giver explains that all the pain of the world was eliminated, along with color, holidays, and families. [[spoiler:This meant that likely there was a lot of oppression of people who didn't want to give up those things]].
17	** The community never appears again in the sequels showing what happened [[spoiler:after Jonas ran away with Gabriel. We only see his father suffering guilt and fear on realizing his oldest son vanished, feeling ''real'' fear for the first time ever]]. It's never explained [[spoiler:if they are able to change, or if they still exist]].
18	*** ''Messenger'' does at least mention that the community [[spoiler:sent Jonas some books, presumably the ones The Giver owned, implying that they were at least around for a few more years]]. Exactly what happened in the meantime and how they reacted to everything are still up for debate, though.
19	* {{Moe}}: Gabriel is an utterly adorable baby with bright eyes and a giggling spirit. Both Jonas and Lily fawn over him, with Lily commenting on how cute he is. [[spoiler:Even though Jonas is later terrified for Gabriel's life and steals him away on hearing he's been marked for Release, they have a sweet play-wrestling scene where Jonas tries to tuck him into bed while they're on the run]].
20	* SlidingScaleOfSocialSatisfaction: Categorized as "Too Happy to Care".
21	* StrawmanHasAPoint: Jonas' parents claiming that "do you love me?" is a meaningless question and suggesting a few more specific ones like "do you enjoy me?" is treated as a horrifying sign that they [[MeasuringTheMarigolds don't understand love.]] However, it might be argued that a parent who enjoys and takes pride in their child does indeed love that child according to any reasonable definition, and that it's not the worst thing in the world if they prefer to focus on their specific, individual feelings rather than using the blanket term for them. That being said, it's also notable that they ''don't'' truly enjoy and take pride in their child, as they're literally unable to have true depths of feeling.
22	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Who was the Giver's spouse? Was she [[spoiler:Rosemary's mother, biological or adopted]]? The Giver mentions offhand that Jonas could look her up but volunteers no information.
23	* ThisIsYourPremiseOnDrugs: "Scopolamine of the soul," to quote the author. The drug has multiple uses, but what she meant is that the society depicted has numbed itself to feeling.
24	* TheWoobie:
25	** Jonas. The poor guy eventually starts to break down, when he realizes that he can't express the new things he knows and feels to his friends or family. His best friend becomes impatient with him after inadvertently triggering Jonas's memory of dying in a war and brushes it off when Jonas tries to explain why he's upset. Jonas's parents scold him for using imprecise language when he asks them "do you love me?" And then, [[spoiler:he finds out that his father--a kind man who Jonas always thought of as being good with kids--cheerfully euthanizes babies who don't measure up to the community's criteria. Even worse, he learns that his dad has every intention of doing this to a baby that had been living in their house for a while and who they'd all been bonding with.]] Jeez!
26	** [[spoiler:Poor, poor Rosemary... She received several happy memories from the Giver, but, then, she's so horrified by some of the painful ones that she [[DrivenToSuicide asks for Release]]. And she even ''injects herself.'']]
27	** The Giver definitely qualifies as well (in fact, he arguably has it worse than the other two COMBINED!). First off, he ALONE must carry all of society's memories, good and bad, whilst living apart from the rest of the Community (not that they could understand and be of any help anyway). And then [[spoiler: his daughter Rosemary is selected to be the next receiver and he is forced to transmit those memories to her. He gave her only positive ones at first, but was finally forced to face reality and start giving her the painful ones (which, he later tells Jonas, "broke [his] heart"). After just five weeks, she is unable to bear the burden any longer and [[DrivenToSuicide Releases herself]]. Worse yet, the other Elders had him ''watch'' said Release (he turned his head when Rosemary announced that she wanted to inject herself).]] It's painfully obvious that the poor guy hasn't been the same since (really, it's a wonder he didn't lose it completely!). [[spoiler: He even states that, after he helps the Community adjust to having all the memories after Jonas leaves, he intends to be Released himself so that he can [[TogetherInDeath be with his daughter]]]].
28	** Gabriel. He's a cute, happy kid, but he spends most of the book with his status up in the air because he's not developing as quickly as he's supposed to be. Then it's revealed that [[spoiler:he's going to be [[ReleasedToElsewhere Released]], all because he still has trouble sleeping through the night, and the reader ''knows'' what Release means by this point. And it's cheerfully stated by Jonas's father, who otherwise ''likes'' Gabriel! No wonder Jonas freaks out about it.]] Poor kid.
29	!!The film
30	* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Given her expanded role, Chief Elder is subjected to this. Does she truly believe in what she preaches or is she more interested in power? Is it possible that she was [[spoiler:Rosemary's mother]] and that [[spoiler:her daughter's death]] played a role in shaping her character?
31	* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments:
32	** After giving Jonas his first memory, the Giver tells Jonas they should go for a walk. Jonas obligingly scoots his chair closer.
33	--->'''The Giver:''' With your ''legs''.
34	** When Fiona finds Jonas lying on the ground, she asks if he needs immediate assistance in a very dull way, like she's barely interested. While it's justified since she's still brainwashed at this point, the dissonance is funny.
35	--->'''Jonas:''' Give me your hands. ''(looks at the rainbow in the waterfall)'' Do you see it?\
36	'''Fiona:''' Oh my goodness.\
37	'''Jonas:''' You see it?\
38	'''Fiona:''' Yes. It's water.
39	** There's also something pretty funny about how, despite the fact that almost all emotion has been wiped away, she's still capable of being a DeadpanSnarker -- in fact, most of what she says is snark! One wonders just how snarky she'll manage to be once she has her full range of emotions back.
40	** One of the segments the Community's leaders watch is that of [[spoiler:Fiona and Jonas kissing]]. One of the elder leaders wonders out loud "What are they doing" in a voice as though they were a curious innocent child. Kind of ironic.
41	* NarmCharm: Fiona's delivery of her lines right before her first kiss is rather stilted. But seeing as she's just experiencing these emotions for the first time, that's actually entirely justified.
42	* RetroactiveRecognition: Who would have guessed Asher would later become [[Series/{{Gotham}} the clown-themed bringer of disorder and anarchy]]? Or how about a [[VideoGame/StarWarsJediFallenOrder Jedi fugitive?]]
43	* RomanticPlotTumor: The biggest complaint of the movie is the romantic story between Jonas and Fiona that was not in the book. In the book, Jonas merely had a crush on Fiona and the tragedy was that romance was ''impossible'' for them because Fiona was irretrievably brainwashed by the community and even committed "Release" on senior citizens. Of course, in the book they were also 12 rather than 18, which makes a difference as well.
44	* TaintedByThePreview: The fans are ''not'' happy about the movie's trailer. If you didn't know better, you'd swear it was actually a parody of InNameOnly adaptations that only exist to jump on the bandwagon of young adult dystopias. This lightened up a bit on the movie's release, as it's ''far'' less action-heavy than the trailers let on. That said, the film still ended up receiving predominantly mixed-to-negative reviews for not being true to the book.
45	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Despite her huge plot importance and played by big name Taylor Swift, Rosemary only has three seconds of screentime and her importance is mostly in dialogue.
46	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Instead of staying in the Community to see how Jonas escaping with Gabriel affected them, ''Son'' follows Claire on her ridiculously convoluted quest to find Gabriel.

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