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4	* {{Adorkable}}: Nerdy Eric geeks out over sci-fi (especially Franchise/StarWars) and is often mocked for his GeekPhysiques, but is still a very nice guy.
5	* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
6	** For all Red's threats to "put [his] foot in Eric's ass", to the point that it became his CatchPhrase, he's never shown so much as raising a hand to his son, or any of the kids [[note]]The one time he's depicted doing anything remotely violent to Eric is when he puts him in a hold so Laurie can get in a free shot, which Kitty puts a stop to before it can happen[[/note]]. This is due to the medium; even with all the DeliberateValuesDissonance at play, the joke only works when Red is ''threatening'' to hurt Eric, because if he actually does, it can't be PlayedForLaughs anymore, at least not on a primetime {{Sitcom}}. This leaves two conclusions: either there's a whole lot of [[AbusiveParents physical abuse]] [[DomesticAbuse going on behind closed doors]] at the Forman house, or [[PaperTiger Red is all talk]].
7	** Donna. For some fans, she's the quirky girl-next-door who's also a feminist and independent. Others see her as vindictive and manipulative, especially in her relationship with Eric. During their relationship, she'd get mad at Eric for things that weren't his fault, and even when rightfully calling him out for some of his more mildly manipulative or sexist behavior she would be shown later to often abuse TheUnfairSex to get things out of their relationship or justify hypocritical behavior (the Ted Nugent episode is a particular sore spot in that regard). When Donna and Eric do break up (for the first time) it's because Donna's worried about being "chained down" to Eric and Point Place. Eric had only given her a promise ring and had never made any indication of undermining her future or interests, only asking if they were together in the hypothetical futures she brought up. But when they are broken up, Donna constantly insults him, messes up his chances of moving on, and leads him on with possibilities of them getting back together.
8	* AluminumChristmasTrees: In "Eric's Birthday", Eric is telling Red and Kitty that he wants a cassette player for his car and specifies "''not'' an 8-track player". Kitty quips: "Why don't they just put record players in cars?" Car record players [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_Hi-Fi did exist]] for a short time in the 1950s but they did not catch on and was phased out by the 60s.
9	%%* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-6_VSdC9_w That 70's Song]]'', naturally.
10	* BaseBreakingCharacter:
11	** Donna. Some people like her and thinks she adds a lot of funny moments to the show, others think she's a {{Jerkass}} and a {{hypocrite}} who [[StrawFeminist uses feminism to get her way in an argument or some other aspect of her life]] when she has shown she's not above acting like a stereotypical woman if it benefits her somehow. The fact that she often overacts to some of the smaller things Eric has done and treats him like crap even when he really ''hasn't'' done anything wrong and never gets called out on it doesn't help.
12	** Laurie, for those who see her as a perfect TokenEvilTeammate to the main group and who gets a lot of the funniest lines in the show, to those who find her antagonism completely over-the-top and based on nothing but a weak ForTheEvulz / SpoiledBrat explanation and otherwise is mainly just defined throughout the show by a bunch of cheap ReallyGetsAround jokes.
13	* CatharsisFactor: For people who didn't like Laurie, seeing karma hit her starting in the second half of season two, starting in "Laurie Moves Out" where Red catches her lying about living with a guy. He forgives her, but sheds the rose-colored lenses he had in previous episodes when it came to her. This is followed by moments of her still acting like he has that demeanor going as well as you'd expect. Especially where she tries to defend her relationship with Kelso with the "But I love him!" argument and slowly realizing he's not buying it. In particular, viewers who were mad at Eric being unable to expose Laurie's affair with the professor and allowing Laurie the opportunity to play for sympathy would enjoy Eric realizing that she was born with a tail, much to her horror, and people who disliked the way she got zero blame for essentially derailing Kelso and Jackie's relationship will like Jackie physically attacking her in "Cat Fight Club".
14	* CreatorsPet:
15	** Randy. Apparently the writers assumed if all of the characters thought that he was perfect, so would the audience.
16	--->"Randy is perfect. That lady at the fair who did the caricatures? She refused to draw him cause she couldn't find a flaw."
17	** For many people, Donna. The fact that she's [[DesignatedHero always portrayed as being in the right]] even when she really isn't and her overall treatment of Eric in their relationship are just two of the many other sore spots people have with her as a character.
18	* CrossesTheLineTwice: "Grandma's Dead", where Eric's grandmother dies as he is driving her home. Seeing Grandma Forman's lifeless body flop around in Eric's passenger seat, or having Kelso crawl over her to reach his 8-Track, would not be nearly as funny if the viewers had not wanted to [[{{Jerkass}} kill the character themselves]].
19	* DesignatedHero: Hyde can slip into this on occasion. He's a JerkWithAHeartOfGold but sometimes leans hard into the "jerk" part, and will not only take amusement in seeing his friends get into trouble, but may actively cause it, or he may know it's coming and will let it happen instead of helping them. He also tends to boast about being a non-conformist lowlife who mooches off others to get by.
20	-->'''Hyde''': Think about it, we hold information that could crush the very heart and soul of one of our best friends. I live for days like this!
21	* DesignatedVillain:
22	** Kelso occasionally. He was a jerk, but sometimes he was portrayed as the bad guy when he was really being reasonable. When he lent Jackie his van and she smashed it, he reasonably wants her to pay to have it fixed, but Jackie refuses because she bought him gifts while they were together. However, as Hyde points out, Kelso did set Jackie's house on fire at one point, which trumps anything Jackie did to the van.
23	** Eric himself, especially in regards to his relationship with Donna. The show tries to display him as an idiotic pervert at times who believes too much in old fashioned ways[[note]]Mostly thanks to Red[[/note]], but more often than not he makes [[StrawmanHasAPoint far more convincing arguments than the writers intended]], especially when some of the points Donna tries to make border-line on flatout [[DomesticAbuse domestic/emotional abuse]].
24	*** When Eric breaks up with Donna, the show treats it as though it was his fault and everyone believes Donna actually broke up with him despite Eric's protests. Then when Donna breaks up with Casey and immediately wants to get back together with Eric, his refusal is treated as selfish and idiotic by Red and Kitty. Regardless what one thinks of Eric's old-fashioned values, the fact is that he and Donna had very different visions for the future and if neither was willing to compromise for the other then it's for the best they broke up, and when Donna wanted to hook up again she was clearly on the rebound from Casey (which Eric called her on), and none of the underlying problems that had led to them breaking up in the first place had been resolved.
25	** Red can get this treatment, despite his thorough WellDoneSonGuy and TheUnfavorite relationship with Eric, his supposedly hard-line modes of discipline can seem rather reasonable and far from severe (and whenever it does stray to KickTheDog territory he's always called out on it). Given this makes sense since it's often an In-Universe reaction from Eric.
26	* EnsembleDarkHorse:
27	** Sad sack Roy Keene (played by Creator/JimGaffigan) only appeared occasionally but ended up very popular.
28	** Leo, no doubt helped being played by Tommy Chong, who went from being a minor recurring character to a [[AscendedExtra promotion to the main credits]].
29	* FanficFuel: The finale cut off at the very last second of 1979, and never featured a WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue or DistantFinale. Many fanfic writers came up with their own, and given how things turned out in Season 8, most of these are {{Fix Fic}}s.
30	* FanonDiscontinuity: Many fans refuse to acknowledge the existence of the eighth season and prefer the cut-off to be somewhere mid-seventh season.
31	* FanPreferredCouple: Hyde/Jackie, which is also a subversion; the two ''were'' together for a large chunk of the series (about 3 seasons), but officially ended in season seven after some other temporary break ups. They were very popular with the fandom because they were seen as a surprisingly stable relationship in comparison to Eric and Donna's constant arguments, a stability that only compared to Red and Kitty's relationship. There was a reason why Kelso wanted them to be his daughter's godparents. Hyde's actor Danny Masterson has even [[https://twitter.com/dannymasterson/status/419737079434604544 tweeted]] his agreement with the fans that were disappointed Jackie and Hyde didn't end up together.
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35	* HarsherInHindsight:
36	** In the first couple minutes of "Grandma's Dead", Eric's [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOntheTin grandma]] has always been snippy towards Kitty and annoys him while driving her home, to the point where he finally [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech snaps]] and says "[[TemptingFate I don't think being nice for a whole day would kill you]]". Seconds later...
37	*** Furthermore in the episode Laurie states at Marion Ross’ character’s funeral “Life is so weird, you get old and die. Thank God I’m still young and hot” is now quite eerie because of Lisa Robin Kelly’s 2013 death, whereas Marion Ross is still alive and kicking it.
38	** A big deal is made of Bob and Midge renewing their vows, which is particularly sweet after they'd fought and argued for so long, and then Midge abruptly leaves him and Donna just two seasons later.
39	** "Career Day": the back-and-forth between Hyde and his mom, Edna, gets so vicious that he eventually storms out, which is likened to how his father left. Talking to Red convinces Hyde to at least try to work things out, and Edna acknowledges she's not being a good mom but wants to do better. Then a few episodes later, she abandons him.
40	** Kelso's decision in Season 7 to make Hyde and Jackie his daughter's godparents instead of Eric and Donna has this a couple times over. Kelso says Hyde and Jackie are simply the more stable couple and cites Eric and Donna's wedding falling through. A few episodes later, however, Hyde and Jackie's relationship hits another rough patch before ending for good at the start of Season 8. Then a few episodes after that we learn that Eric and Donna have broken up, though they at least get a MaybeEverAfter in the GrandFinale.
41	** The next to last episode of season 2, "Cat Fight Club", features Red fantasizing about the year 1997 and bemoaning Laurie dating Kelso with the declaration that he'll "have a heart attack before [he] gets his jetpack." At the time, a crack about how we [[IWantMyJetpack still don't have jetpacks in 2000]] was funny, but it became this as of the season 5 finale, "Celebration Day", when Red really does have a (non-fatal) heart attack as a result of [[spoiler:hearing Laurie and Fez got married so the latter will stay in the country.]] Additionally, in another episode, Red faked a heart attack to get Kitty off his ass about his health.
42	** The following became this in 2017 due to the various allegations of rape against Danny Masterson that resulted in his being fired from ''Series/TheRanch'', his 2020 arrest, and his conviction in May 2023:
43	*** Hyde says "I always thought it was the loss of freedom...and the uninvited man-love" when Jackie talks about why prisoners are unhappy.
44	*** When Hyde took the fall for Jackie buying pot, some of the gang makes cracks about Hyde becoming someone's "girlfriend" in jail.
45	*** There was a scene from the episode where the gang goes to a wrestling match. After it was announced on TV, Donna starts wrestling Eric and she laughingly exclaims that Eric isn't fighting back, cut to Hyde's deadpan "Why would he?". Back then, it was funny because Eric wouldn't dare fight back someone who is as attractive as Donna if it meant getting to her.
46	*** In "Roller Disco", [[AboveTheInfluence Fez refuses to take advantage of a drunken Jackie]]. When he tells the story to Hyde, the latter encourages Fez to lie about having sex with her the next time he tells the story.
47	*** In "It's a Wonderful Life," Eric is shown visions of an alternate universe where he and Donna never kissed after the Todd Rundgren concert in the pilot episode, leading to a reality where Donna and Hyde get together instead. In the last scene, set in an alternate 1988, Hyde isn't present at the class reunion, and Donna mentions that Hyde is in jail.
48	*** In "Eric's Burger Job", Ricky asks Hyde where he sees himself in five years to which Hyde bluntly responds "Prison".
49	** The tv show's [[https://screenrant.com/70s-show-jokes-aged-poorly/ jokes about Big Rhonda's size (especially in contrast to thinner, more glamourous celebs on the show)]], how the show elevated women of a certain beauty (slim, full-ish breasts, long legs, small toned waistlines), and at the least Jackie's comments about [[Literature/NancyDrew chubby Bess]] and how girls who gained Holiday weight need to stay in and let "prettier" girls like her get the boys have aged poorly especially after Laura Prepon (who fit the criteria for hotness by the show's standards) [[https://people.com/books/laura-prepon-reveals-my-mother-taught-me-bulimia-in-new-book/ released a 2020 memoir where she admitted to being bulimic from age 15 to her late 20s, when the show was running]].
50	** In "The Relapse", Bob's breakdown from Midge leaving him became more heartbreaking following the real-life passing of Creator/TanyaRoberts in 2021, particularly the line "She's not coming back, is she?", especially Tanya had expressed interest in reprising her role if the series were to get the spin-off treatment, and she died months prior to ''Series/That90sShow'' being announced.
51	** While the arc of Jackie and Fez becoming a couple during the final episodes of the series is already perceived by most as an unnecessary case of StrangledByTheRedString, it becomes a rather dark ShaggyDogStory in hindsight, considering the reveal in ''Series/That90sShow'' that Jackie dumped Fez mid-vacation to get back together with Kelso not long afterwards. The arc has Jackie set aside her racist views, finally see Fez for what he is, and actively (and sometimes aggressively) pursue him, and Fez work through past rejections to finally learn to trust her, only for the reveal to retroactively change the tone of the arc completely:
52	*** All of Fez's doubts and misgivings that Jackie is just a spoiled brat looking for a rebound, who only wants him out of desperation and will dump him the moment something better comes along? '''Absolutely correct'''.
53	*** While the original intention was for Jackie's feelings and emotions during this arc to be genuine, the knowledge of what came after completely ruins it. At best, one could wonder how desperate and lost she was at that point in her life. At worst, the word "sociopath" wouldn't be inappropriate.
54	*** Kelso's comment in "That '70s Finale" where he compares himself, Hyde and Fez to different cars, with Fez being the worst by far, feels a lot crueler considering the events that followed.
55	** Related to the above, the first scene of the Season 7 finale shows that Jackie, who is usually lauded as the character who got the most development through the years, can show signs of reverting to her original immature self when left alone with Kelso for long stretches of time. Come ''That '90s Show'', between the group falling apart and no longer having any influence on her, and her renewed relationship with Kelso, she completely regressed, her character development seemingly undone.
56	* HeartwarmingInHindsight:
57	** Just about every Kelso-and-Jackie storyline falls into this trope knowing that Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis ''are'' a [[RealLife real life]] couple.
58	** After Eric and Donna have a pregnancy scare, Kitty asks how Red has been so calm through everything - Red notes that after his heart attack, he’s realised that he’d like to know his grandkids before he dies. Cue ''Series/That90sShow''.
59	* HilariousInHindsight:
60	** Prior to being neighbors on this show, Red and Bob's actors (Creator/KurtwoodSmith and Don Stark) were already neighbors in a sense - Kurtwood played General Galapagos on ''[[WesternAnimation/EekTheCat The Terrible Thunderlizards]]'', and Don played The Rhino in ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries''- both of which aired on Saturday mornings on Creator/FoxKids.
61	** The outspoken Feminist and Progressive Donna wanting to get an interview with Ted Nugent and getting angry at Eric for sabotaging it becomes more hilarious when one sees that Nugent in real life has gotten involved with a number of ultra-right wing causes and is noted for his open sexism.
62	** Eric, wearing an all-black outfit, wishing he could shoot webs and later saying he learned how to fight from Spider-Man. Topher Grace went on to play Venom in ''Film/SpiderMan3'', who had all of Spidey's powers, wore a symbiote that was black as a costume, and could shoot webs.
63	** In "Going To California," Hyde tells Eric that he "has no problem fooling whitey." Eric reminds Hyde that he's white, and Hyde responds by saying, "Barely." Cut to Season 7, where it is revealed that Hyde is half-black.
64	** Also in Season 5, after [[spoiler:Jackie and Hyde break up because he cheats on her]], a distraught Hyde turns on the radio to a country music station and says he finally gets country music. [[Series/TheRanch Cue 2016]].
65	** The fact that Creator/AshtonKutcher and Creator/MilaKunis started dating in 2012 after playing a couple when the show started. It became HeartwarmingInHindsight in February 2014, when they announced their engagement, and as of 2017, are the proud parents of two children.
66	*** In one episode, Kelso starts donating sperm. Jackie makes him go and get them back because she "wants to have his babies someday." This also comes true in the show's universe, as ''Series/That90sShow'' reveals Jackie and Kelso got back together and had a son named Jay.
67	** In the episode "Tornado Prom," Mila Kunis's character Jackie [[OffToSeeTheWizard played Dorothy in a Wizard of Oz-themed daydream]]. In the dream, Donna was mortally offended that [[VitriolicBestBuds Jackie imagined her as the Wicked Witch of the West.]] In ''Film/OzTheGreatAndPowerful'', [[spoiler:Jackie ''is'' the Wicked Witch of the West.]]
68	** In "Hyde's Father," Bud tells the kids "That's what his mom says" when asked if he's really Hyde's father. Fast forward a few seasons and turns out he wasn't so far from the truth.
69	** [[Series/{{Scrubs}} A Kelso]] invoking HasTwoThumbsAnd.
70	** All of Jackie's lines are funnier when you picture her as [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Meg Griffin]] (who, unlike Jackie, is a ButtMonkey).
71	** Donna once said "I could get arrested. I could go to a girl prison". Cut to [[Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack 2013]]... Even better, one of the supporting characters is called "Red".
72	** After he and Red modify a Pong game, Kelso proclaims that home computers are the wave of the future. Creator/AshtonKutcher would later play Creator/SteveJobs in the {{biopic}} ''Film/{{Jobs}}'', as well as computer tech guru Walden Schmidt on ''Series/TwoAndAHalfMen''.
73	** Eric's love of ''Franchise/StarWars'' when one considers that Topher Grace [[http://www.slashfilm.com/topher-grace-edited-star-wars-prequels-85minute-movie/ edited the Prequel Trilogy into a single 85 minute film]] and removed several of the most hated elements of those films.
74	** Speaking of ''Star Wars'', considering the year of the series, it is not uncommon for people like Eric to pair Luke Skywalker with Leia Organa. Eric even has an ImagineSpot where Luke and Darth Vader are fighting for Leia's affection and sometimes dress up as Luke while getting Donna to dress up as Leia. Wait 'til he watched the two sequels and gets the shock of his life when he finds out the true [[SurpriseIncest relation]][[LukeIAmYourFather ship]] between Luke, Leia, and Vader.
75	*** [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight Lest we forget about Kelso being right about Han and Leia becoming a couple]].
76	** In Season 7's "Let's Spend the Night Together," Eric gets attacked (by a group of women) at a feminist rally. Donna tells him to run... like Bruce (now known as Caitlyn) Jenner. She then curses herself because Eric is too "feminine" to know about sports.
77	** Both Ashton Kutcher and Wilmer Valderrama would eventually be romantically linked to celebrities [[Creator/DemiMoore named]] [[Music/DemiLovato Demi]].
78	** In Season 4's "An Eric Forman Christmas", Eric winds up coming up with the term "space unicorn" over a decade before Music/ParryGripp [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17o1OlroNSE did.]]
79	** During [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock's]] cameo portraying his dad, Rock makes a reference to himself, where he hopes "his son" will one day become "the most electrifying man in sports entertainment". Well... The Rock would grow up into becoming someone who is ''far bigger'' than that.
80	** Eric's uneasy attitude toward W.B., Hyde's black biological father, in "Let's Spend The Night Together" became much funnier once Creator/{{Topher Grace}} went on to play David Duke in ''Film/{{BlacKkKlansman}}''. Ironically, both the episode and the film take place in 1979.
81	*** Relating to the above, in "It's a Wonderful Life" Eric Forman is initially pleased that [[MyFutureSelfAndMe his future self]] grew a mustache, only to be told that it was just chocolate cake. In ''Film/BlacKkKlansman'', Creator/TopherGrace plays Duke ''with an actual mustache''.
82	** When Kelso reveals he's been donating sperm, Hyde mentions, among other things, "libraries will fall into disrepair" from Kelso having children. Kelso later impregnates Brooke, a librarian.
83	** In "Ramble On", Kelso's ''WesternAnimation/SuperFriends'' fantasy has Fez in the role of Aquaman-- he looks strangely similar to Creator/JasonMomoa in ''Film/Aquaman2018'' when the latter dons the classic Aquaman getup.
84	** Fez once fantasized himself as Ricky Ricardo alongside Donna as Lucy from ''Series/ILoveLucy''. Wilmer Valderrama would go on to play Desi Arnaz in himself in ''Lucy Loves Desi'', a radio play about the creation and early years of ''Series/ILoveLucy''.
85	** When the gang are being interrogated about their visit to Canada, Hyde claims he's there to "nail Margaret Trudeau". Margaret Trudeau's actual son Justin would go on to legalize marijuana in Canada.
86	*** Also hilarious given the (mostly) tongue-in-cheek conspiracy theory that Justin Trudeau is actually the illegitimate son of Fidel Castro, especially given the Mounties' response of "been there, done that."
87	** Leigh-Allyn Baker had a guest role in the season 5 episode "Hey Hey What Can I Do?". Her ''Series/GoodLuckCharlie'' co-star, Eric Allan Kramer, also had a guest role in "Sally Simpson", an episode of the very next season.
88	** Kelso's reaction to Bob's perm ("That's permanent?") from "That '70s Pilot" becomes somewhat prophetic with Bob keeping the same hairdo [[Series/That90sShow well into the nineties]].
89	* HoYay:
90	** There was an episode where Eric became friends with a guy called Buddy (played by Creator/JosephGordonLevitt). There was a montage of them hanging out to a Best Friends song, only for it to turn out that Eric's friend was gay. At the end of the episode, Red and Bob had a Best Friends montage.
91	** Kelso and Fez's relationship constantly toes the line between HeterosexualLifePartners and AmbiguouslyBi. Hyde even lampshades it in one episode in a conversation with Fez.
92	---> '''Hyde''': You're like half in love with him aren't you?
93	** There's also this little gem:
94	---> '''Kelso''': ...Did you just kiss my ear a little?\
95	'''Fez''': ...Yes.\
96	'''Kelso''': ''({{beat}})'' I kinda liked it.
97	** Then there was the episode where Fez had an erotic dream about Kelso.
98	** They've also kissed:
99	---> '''Fez''': Ah, this is tomorrow's school paper. Oh my god, on the front page, there's a picture of me kissing Kelso by the lake!\
100	'''Eric''': Fez, why are you kissing Kelso by the lake?\
101	'''Fez''': We caught a fish, I was excited. I kissed the fish too, but, of course, they don't show you that.
102	** Discussed in-universe with [[Series/GilligansIsland Gilligan and The Skipper]].
103	** There's also this little gem from Eric about his relationship with Hyde.
104	---> (Being friends with Donna) isn't the same as with Hyde. I haven't, you know, touched his fun parts. At least not intentionally.
105	* JerkassWoobie: Hyde and Jackie.
106	** Mainly with Hyde having such an awful childhood his casual {{Jerkass}} traits feel rather mild to what could've been, and who generally becomes a more well-rounded and at least well-meaning character- if not entirely shedding some of his Jerk-ier tendencies- after he moves in with the Formans (and later while dating Jackie).
107	** Jackie, although she has her extreme ControlFreak tendencies towards Kelso while they're dating and her generally shrill SpoiledBrat personality, she still doesn't deserve a lot of the crap she gets as TheFriendNobodyLikes and Kelso constantly fooling around behind her back. CharacterDevelopment in the later seasons, though, tended to rub off much of her {{Jerkass}} traits, and while despite having a semblance of her original personality, thanks to her BrokenBird storyline she eventually becomes one of the more level-headed and emphatic characters on the show.
108	* LoveToHate: Laurie, or at least when she was played by the late Creator/LisaRobinKelly, with her charm and charisma selling the ManipulativeBitch undertone really well.
109	* MemeticBadass: Red Forman. There is no limit to the ways he can describe how he'll put his foot up your ass, and he is fully capable of all of them.
110	* MemeticMutation:
111	** "Dumbass!"[[labelnote:Explanation]]Red's favorite insult for pretty much everyone.[[/labelnote]]
112	** "I love you." "I love cake."[[labelnote:Explanation]]Eric's fumbled reaction to Donna saying the L-word for the first time.[[/labelnote]]
113	** "Damn, Jackie! I can't control the weather!"
114	** "Why is the dog on the table?" "He likes to be tall."
115	** "I'm going to bed for a few days."
116	** "Red, do you think I'm smart?" or any type of question that results in "Oh, is that what we're doing today? We're gonna fight?"
117	** "If I were a bird, I'd fly into a ceiling fan."
118	** "It's a car. That runs on water, man!"
119	** "I said good day!"
120	** The picture of a distraught Kitty pouring tequila into a blender from ''Good Company''.
121	* ParanoiaFuel: Fez could be hiding in your closet ''right now''!
122	* ReplacementScrappy: Poor Randy. After Eric left for Africa Randy was added in as a replacement to round out the cast. Was he given his own personality and be his own character? ''Nope!'' Randy was added in as a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute to Eric despite being pretty much the opposite in looks (tall and handsome with long blonde hair) and even dated Donna after she and Eric broke up off-screen. When Kelso left, did the writers get a new character to replace him? ''Nope!'' Someone decided that Randy had to play both the nerd and the dumbass, resulting in an inconsistent and unfunny character who was a dumb nerd but also a socially awkward player but also an unfunny clown who constantly bounces between roles and never really works with any of them. The writers caught on and barely shown him in the series finale.
123	* RetroactiveRecognition:
124	** Jewelry store clerk and landlord Fenton is played by a pre-''Series/{{Community}}'' Creator/JimRash.
125	** Creator/JennaFischer guest starred as Stacy Wanamaker merely two months before the premiere of her most famous role, [[Series/TheOfficeUS Pam Beesly]].
126	* RomanticPlotTumor: Even though most people prefer it to [[TheScrappy Randy]], Eric and Donna's relationship over the series gets to this level at several points, to the point it seems like the writers were [[RelationshipRevolvingDoor trying to think of any reason to break them up so they could get them back together again]]. The crowning example is when [[spoiler:they broke up because Donna wouldn't accept Eric's promise ring, not wanting to be "trapped" in Point Place, listing several reasons because of it. Maybe this would have been understandable... had Donna not almost immediately hooked up with Kelso's brother, who's the ''living embodiment'' of everything she supposedly left Eric because]]. Let's just say it's some of those things that caused Donna to be one of the more [[BaseBreakingCharacter divisive characters]] in the cast...
127	** This at least gets [[LampshadeHanging acknowledged]] semi-frequently in universe though, with several characters (Hyde being the most frequent) stating they keep getting rather sick of hearing Eric and Donna constantly talking about and discussing every little thing about their relationship.
128	--->'''Hyde''': I couldn't put up with one more week of that "Will they won't they" crap.
129	** Casey and Donna, big time. Mainly since Casey was such a [[FlatCharacter flat]] {{Jerkass}} who Donna inexplicably fell heed over heels for no real reason other than a shallow AllGirlsWantBadBoys, despite previously showing she could easily see through that façade, and him ultimately getting no HiddenDepths whatsoever and the writers doubling down on his JerkWithAHeartOfJerk personality only being made more affable thanks to Luke Wilson's typically laid back delivery. While it did become increasingly obvious that he was a RomanticFalseLead in comparison to Eric, making Donna [[TookALevelInDumbass take a level in dumbass]] so they could get together and the love triangle taking up so much time in the latter half of season 4, for many it brought down the show as a result.
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133	* SeasonalRot: Opinions vary on exactly how early it started, but ''many'' agree that Season 8 (where Kelso and Eric left and brought in [[ReplacementScrappy Randy to replace them]]) was the single worst season of the show.
134	** Retroactively, though, Season 7 is viewed by most fans to be the start of the show's decline in quality, with the jokes feeling forced and not as funny, the characters getting flanderized to one trait (i.e. Kelso's stupidity, Eric's love of ''Star Wars'', etc.) and the storylines feeling played out being pointed out as the reasons for why.
135	* SignatureScene: While it's more of a RunningGag, the scenes where the camera pans to-and-from each main character in a "circle" of implied pot sharing is what the show's best remembered for.
136	* StrangledByTheRedString:
137	** Donna and Randy. Donna is noticeably attracted to Randy while she's still in a relationship with Eric. The fact that the writers also broke up the OfficialCouple (and having it be an off-screen Eric's fault, no less) just to get them together doesn't help.
138	** Jackie and Fez's RelationshipUpgrade comes pretty close as well, especially since a lot of people weren't happy that she didn't get back together with Hyde. She basically went from regarding Fez as a good friend to being head over heels in love with him in the span of a few episodes. Though it needs to be noted that in an episode from one of the earlier seasons that Jackie has admitted that she found Fez to be attractive.
139	* StrawmanHasAPoint: After getting Brooke pregnant, Kelso is initially reluctant to get involved or take responsibility, which leads to the others criticizing him. While they're certainly not wrong, Kelso has a pretty understandable response: "Y'know, it's real easy to talk about the right thing when it's not your life."
140	* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: While the widescreen remaster used on Netflix, as well as in Blu-Ray and modern DVD releases, does not have glaring flaws, fans were not happy with one scene being altered: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWjShj3IZpo this circle]] in "Tornado Prom" where the remaster removed the special effect of the cardboard cutouts talking, making Donna's reaction less understandable. To a lesser extent, the altered title sequence for the latter half of Season 3 (an altered version of the previous one with Lisa Robin Kelly removed instead of an entirely new one).
141	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
142	** Charlie Richardson, who only appeared for three episodes in the show was supposed to be Eric's replacement for the last season. Instead, his character is [[DroppedABridgeOnHim killed in only the first episode of said season]]. The ultimate replacement is Randy, who was ''not'' well received from fans, who some preferred Charlie over Randy.
143	** Samantha; if you're going to have Hyde get married, then do more with his wife besides using her for DumbBlonde or stripper jokes.
144	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
145	** A lot of the characters' HiddenDepths were ignored in favor of {{Flanderization}} no matter how annoying the directionless StatusQuoIsGod got. Jackie and Kelso got the worst of it - in one episode Jackie was shown to be a great mechanic, and in another episode, Kelso could reprogram a ''VideoGame/{{Pong}}'' table, and nothing was done with either of them.
146	** During the aforementioned ''Super Friends'' fantasy sequence in "Ramble On", they didn't do a joke about the man ring and ComicBook/GreenLantern (hell, the ring's gem appeared to be green!).
147	** As reviled as Randy was, there was a nice dynamic with the trio of Hyde (apathetic boss), Randy (idea man), and Leo (unwilling prop) working at Grooves, that ended up phased out after Randy got paired up with Donna.
148	* UnintentionallySympathetic:
149	** In "The Promise Ring" when Eric breaks up with Donna, they try to make it out that he's the bad guy. Except for one thing, Donna outright admitted to his face she didn't necessarily see him in her future. Yes he acted a little coldly towards her after that, but imagine being told that you don't matter enough to factor into your girlfriend's plans?
150	** Eric gets a hard time from both his parents over refusing to get back with Donna after she was cruelly broken up by the smiley Casey Kelso. Even Eric calls himself an "idiot" for his supposed selfishness. However, Donna ''did'' try to rekindle her and Eric's romance ''immediately'' after Casey dumped her; and before that, she was usually rude and dismissive of his concerns about her behavior. After all that, Eric didn't deserve to be Donna's way of making herself feel better.
151	** Kelso writes a song for Jackie in an attempt to win her back after she finds out he was cheating with Laurie. One of the lyrics says “I didn’t wanna cheat but she forced me, she downright coerced me,” and it’s played off like Kelso’s typical NeverMyFault behavior— except that in this case, he’s right, as the first time Kelso and Laurie "had sex" she raped him.
152	* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
153	** Donna who is presented as one of the most mature and rational characters on the show had frequently been criticized for acting like a self righteous hypocrite in addition to treating Eric horribly even when he didn't do anything wrong.
154	** Eric and Donna pressuring Jackie and Hyde to admit their relationship to Kelso -- and shaming them for doing it in the first place and keeping it a secret -- comes off as rather meddlesome and hypocritical to many fans, considering the two of them didn't seem to have any trouble keeping Kelso's ''actual affair with Laurie'' a secret from Jackie for months. For Kelso himself, the idea that Jackie really owes him anything (after years of dealing with his cheating, passive aggressively insulting her, pestering her for sex, and ditching her with no explanation) has become a point of contention among fans, especially in recent years— additionally, the idea that Jackie betrayed Kelso by dating one of his friends (after, as previously mentioned, abandoning her all summer with no word) is a hard pill to swallow considering the countless times Kelso hit on or outright harassed/assaulted Donna ''while in a relationship with Jackie.''
155	** Kelso continually shaming Jackie for "kissing the cheese guy" (in actuality, being tricked into a kiss and then letting it happen) and then claiming that he isn’t sorry for the hundreds of times he cheated on Jackie is portrayed as Kelso "standing up for himself." This loses sympathy when one remembers the fact that does Jackie compliment and encourage Kelso more than she insults him, and Kelso also frequently insults Jackie and otherwise mistreats her in ways besides the cheating. Not only this, but later Seasons also reveal that Kelso was ''actively'' sleeping with other women during this time in their relationship, making his fury over a kiss that she almost immediately told him about seem petty.
156	* ValuesDissonance:
157	** Ironically falls into this, in spite of often [[DeliberateValuesDissonance deliberately invoking it]] for comedy. [[SlutShaming Sleeping around is depicted as one of the worst things people, particularly women, can possibly do]].
158	** Additionally and more pressingly, the show’s lack of concern about sexual consent is a lot more troubling to viewers in recent years than it was while the show was airing. From Jackie and Donna being the target of frequent sexual harassment and even assaults from their male friends [[note]](Including frequent attempts by Fez to spy on them getting undressed or having sex, Kelso grabbing Donna’s butts or breasts against her consent, and numerous demeaning nicknames and jokes about their appearances or sexual history, amongst other things)[[/note]], Eric planning to have sex with the inebriated Donna, Jackie offhandedly mentioning that Kelso had coerced her into sex by repeatedly asking her for it despite her initial refusals, to outright rape via Laurie forcing herself on a verbally non-consenting Kelso, or Fez trying to pull off a BedTrick (aka Rape by Deception) it’s all PlayedForLaughs.
159	* VanillaProtagonist: Eric, [[BrokenBase arguably.]] But, no matter if you like him or not, he was created to be as [[TheEveryman bland,]] [[RidiculouslyAverageGuy normal]] and [[ThisLoserIsYou relatable]] as possible before getting [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] into a StrawMisogynist [[GeekPhysiques wimpy]] [[ExtremeDoormat pushover]] [[{{Geek}} Star Wars fanboy.]]
160	* WinBackTheCrowd: As poorly receiving as nearly all of Season 8 is, managing to get the original main cast back together for the finale, [[TheScrappy with as few appearances from Randy as possible]] and giving the characters a satisfying end to their narratives (even if some were left intentionally open-ended), even in the case of SeasonalRot that was being experienced up to that point the finale is still considered one of the best episodes and a strong way to send the show off in classic sitcom fashion.
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