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1* ''YMMV/TeenTitans2003''
2* ''YMMV/TeenTitansTroubleInTokyo''
3* ''YMMV/TeenTitansGo''
4** ''YMMV/TeenTitansGoToTheMovies''
5* ''YMMV/Titans2018''
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7!![=YMMVs=] for the [[ComicBook/TeenTitans comic books]]:
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11* AccidentalInnuendo:
12** On more than one occasion during The New Teen Titans era, Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} would let Jericho, whose power was to [[BodySurf possess people]], possess him with the words: [[https://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk8uz27EK01qc7r93o1_400.png "Joey, get inside me!"]]
13** [[https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/9/98764/1899884-loves_dick.jpg Here Starfire yells]] "I love Dick! Dick! I love Dick!" Referring to [[ComicBook/{{Robin}} Dick Grayson]], of course.
14* AlasPoorScrappy: The fate of Marvin and Wendy in "Teen Titans #62". Yes, they were annoying. No, they did '''not''' deserve to be brutalized by Wonder Dog, who kills Marvin and leaves Wendy comatose and paraplegic.
15* ArcFatigue:
16** ''ComicBook/TitansHunt'', a complex and long story. It began with their members being kidnapped and Deathstroke hired to rescue them. Then we get a new villain society, a cheap Wolverine expy, a flying sheet, an unneeded trip to Russia, Cyborg turned into a complete robot, a new team of Titans from the future trying to kill Troia, and so on, and so on...
17** ''The Culling'' in the ''ComicBook/New52''. The book's first 8 issues (most of a year) were built to get to this crossover with ''Legion Lost'', and at the end they don't even manage to defeat the bad guy.
18* AudienceAlienatingEra:
19** In TheNineties, the franchise was swollen with difficulties until about 1998, when it finally decided to start RevisitingTheRoots and sprouted off both The Titans and ''ComicBook/YoungJustice''.
20*** Between the [[KudzuPlot immense tangle of plot threads]] that [[PlotTumor erupted from the infamous "Titans Hunt" storyline]] and [[FourLinesAllWaiting clogged up the last six years of Wolfman's seminal run]], the [[TotallyRadical cringe-worthy attempts at being cool]], the [[UnintentionalPeriodPiece quickly outdated fashions]] and [[NinetiesAntiHero obnoxiously cynical attitudes]], and the editorial wrangling and {{Ass Pull}}s that yanked core characters in and out of the lineup, the inevitable GainaxEnding of the Wolfman run was something of a mercy killing.
21*** The new [[ComicBook/TheAtom Atom-led]] team of [[AlienEpisode H'sann Natall hybrid teenagers]] (from ''Teen Titans Vol. 2'', succeeding Wolfman's ''New Titans'') was very unpopular for having essentially nothing to do with [[PoorlyDisguisedPilot old Titans characters or lore]] with only some old fringe elements (the Psions, Loren Jupiter, Omen) to tie it in.
22** Eric Wallace and Fabrizio Fiorentino's run is reviled, due to centering the story on Deathstroke's team of mercenaries and having excessive levels of {{Wangst}} and {{Gorn}} compared to any of the previous books.
23** The New 52 era:
24*** The Teen Titans are mocked ''in-universe'' by other creators. The first series was cancelled two and half years into its run, incidentally also driving the final nail into DC's Young Justice line, which at one point included teen heroes from three different comic universes. Unlikable characters, a lack of consistent pacing and logic, excessive fight scenes, ExecutiveMeddling, enough dropped subplots and characters to drive even die-hard fans away, drastic changes to once popular characters that turned them toxic, and just weird creative choices (such as incorporating elements of Grant Morrison's ''ComicBook/DoomPatrol'' for some reason, but only on a superficial level) has this era branded as one of the worst in Titans history. It was relaunched with a new creative team, but this series didn't fair much better, for the same reasons as the first, and limped along until ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'', when a new ''Teen Titans'' series was launched. Said series implicitly references the New 52 Teen Titans and jabs at how much they sucked.
25*** The only characters from the original team who initially existed were Nightwing and Arsenal, and it was explicitly said that they were never members of the Teen Titans. Garth would later be introduced as an infant, before being retconned as a racist Atlantean, while Donna Troy was reintroduced as a man-hating version of Wonder Woman who was ''killed'', and Wally West was reintroduced years down the line as a {{Race Lift}}ed 13-year-old delinquent with none of the traits of the original Wally. None of these changes were popular, leading Dan Abnett to {{Retcon}} the series by saying that there ''was'' an original Teen Titans and removing the negatively received traits of Garth and Donna, before ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' brought back the Pre-New 52 Wally West.
26** The Ben Percy run on ''Rebirth''-era ''Teen Titans'' started with Damian ''kidnapping'' his teammates and demanding they join him, the Titans inexplicably tolerating his lousy attitude and treatment, a painfully flanderized version of Beast Boy, and Raven and [=NuWally=] being StrangledByTheRedString.
27* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Dan Jurgens' series from 1996 replaced all of the cast members from New Teen Titans with new characters and inexplicably turned The Atom into a teenager. Fans of the classic team were outraged at seeing their favorites replaced by new characters, while newer fans were unimpressed by Jurgens' excessive use of TotallyRadical slang, and were put off by the premise that all of the new Titans were the product of aliens interbreeding with humans.
28* BaseBreakingCharacter:
29** Cassie Sandsmark/Wonder Girl II. Many like her, others outright hate her. There's no middle ground.
30** Bunker from the New 52 Titans - some hate him for his too-perfect attitude, but many others claim that at least he wasn't an asshole like everyone else at the time.
31** Damian Wayne, the current Robin, both the pre-Flashpoint and Rebirth era with some liking him and others hating him. It's not helped by the fact that he's considered a BaseBreakingCharacter in ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' as well.
32* BizarroEpisode: "[[AddedAlliterativeAppeal A Titanic Tale of Titans' Tomfoolery!]]" has the MadScientist Igor Igorigorigorivich try to discover the Titans' secrets by abducting Marv Wolfman and George Pérez from the real world. The duo manages to defeat him by pressing a [[AssPull "Roast the mad scientist" button]], and return to the real world by [[BreakingTheFourthWall noting they are on the last page and the story can't end with them stuck on the Titans' universe]]. This short is meant to be nonsensical, as the credits plainly state that "Nobody's taking the blame for this one!", and much of the humour stems from jokes at the expense of [[SelfDeprecation WolfMan's ego, Pérez's physical appearance]] or [[BitingTheHandHumor the immaturity of DC's editors]].
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36* CantUnhearIt:
37** Fans of Raven are more likely to read her lines in the voice of Creator/TaraStrong.
38** For Starfire, it's either Creator/HyndenWalch or Creator/KariWahlgren.
39** It's hard to imagine not reading Cyborg's lines with the voice of Creator/KharyPayton.
40* CommonKnowledge:
41** Thanks to the [[AdaptationDisplacement animated series]] introducing an entire generation to the Teen Titans, many fans will commonly refer to the main five characters used in the show (Robin, Starfire, Cyborg, Raven and Beast Boy) as being the "classic" lineup. This despite the fact that this core lineup has ''never actually existed'' outside animation -- the only time all five members were on the team together was in the early Wolfman-Perez era, and even then it had Wonder Girl and Kid Flash on top of that. In reality, the Teen Titans have had dozens of different members that would go in and out, and there would be entire runs without any of the "Big Five". Even when DC brought back the Teen Titans to capitalize on the show, the lineup was ''still'' different what it portrayed (It started with Cyborg, Starfire and Beast Boy, and it had a Robin -- but that was Tim Drake, and it also featured Superboy, Kid Flash II, and Wonder Girl II on top of that). It's so ingrained in the minds of the public that stories that ''don't'' feature close recreations of this lineup will inevitably be criticized for it.
42** While the age gap between Donna Troy and Terry Long has been criticized due to Donna being 19 at the time and Terry being much older, Donna was a photographer, not one of Terry's students.
43* CompleteMonster: See [[Monster/TheDCU here]].
44* CondemnedByHistory: Over the years the relationship between Donna Troy and Terry Long was been met with condemnation due to the fact Donna was 19 and Terry was at least ten years older and the fact he was a divorcee and already had a kid with his ex-wife and the fact they got married and had a kid after a short courtship led many to consider it a slap in the fact to Wonder Woman's status as a feminist icon.
45* CreatorsPet:
46** Danny Chase was universally loathed by fans within a few issues of his first appearance. He was a CousinOliver (he even ''looked'' like the original Cousin Oliver) introduced to make the team seem younger, as he was only in his early teens while everyone else was pushing 20. Despite his age, he constantly argued with the other members of the team, criticized them, was supposed to be a genius superspy teenager with telekinetic powers, but then went crazy with fear whenever an actual fight took place. It also hurt that his powers were mainly shown to be extremely limited: at best he could levitate himself (but only while sitting Indian-style) and throw small objects around at bad guys to annoy them And when Dick was distraught at the death of Jason Todd, Danny said it was no big deal because Jason 'knew the risks'. The only person who didn't seem to grasp how loathed this character was was writer Marv Wolfman who still insists it was the readers' fault for not "getting the character".
47** Deathstroke was also Wolfman's Creator's Pet for most of his run. When George Perez left ''The New Teen Titans'', Wolfman had free reign over Deathstroke's character, and it seemed that he had no objectivity where he was concerned. In a very jarring, sudden turn of events, Deathstroke became a KarmaHoudini for his actions, his [[CharacterizationMarchesOn earlier characterization forgotten]] and now established as an AntiVillain who bore the Titans no ill will[[note]](When Perez was still on the title, Deathstroke blamed the Titans for his son's death and took very clear, visible pleasure in setting them up to be betrayed and murdered)[[/note]] turned AntiHero, being EasilyForgiven and becoming a father-figure and ''friend'' of the Titans, including his biggest victims Nightwing, Changeling, and his own son Jericho who was rendered mute because of him. Wolfman has also stated repeatedly that he never saw Deathstroke as a villain, but as a victim of circumstance stuck in a bad situation, whose actions (including sleeping with a teenage girl) weren't truly his fault.
48** The second ComicBook/WonderGirl, Cassie Sandsmark, after she became team leader in ''Teen Titans'' volume 3. While talked up as a leader by the writers, Cassie didn't really do all that much and more page time was often given to her acting obnoxiously condescending or being a {{Jerkass}} to her boyfriend. Fans also felt insulted when Felicia Henderson brought Beast Boy back to the team: Rather than give him his leader role back, Henderson had Cassie continue to be leader while lacking any character development, while the older and more experienced Gar was demoted to obnoxious comic relief and treated as if he were younger.
49%%Lacks context** Wolfman made extensive use of The Wildebeest, giving him no less than three personal arcs, but the Wildebeest's design was an absolute favorite of editor Jordan Peterson's, who wanted Wildebeest to figure both into the tenth anniversary event that became Titans Hunt and even have a Wildebeest character join the heroes. *Doesn't explain why he is hated*
50* CryForTheDevil: Persuader, when she's finally reunited with her father and he's killed by Clock King right in front of her.
51* DesignatedVillain: Steve Dayton, Beast Boy's adoptive father, in the opening of ''Burning Rage'' #4, who has closed his privately-owned theme park to let Beast Boy and the Titans use it for free all day. This attracts a crowd of customers who demand to be let in, having brought tickets, but when Dayton refuses, [[DesignatedHero Starfire]] decides he's a bully and [[DisproportionateRetribution tears the gates down]] so the crowds can rush in. In reality, the only thing Dayton has done wrong is to maybe have handled the closing of the park poorly--it's ambiguous whether his refund of the tickets was decided on the spot or had already happened--in the middle of giving his son an objectively pricey gift[[note]]Between paying employees, maintaining rides, and performing custodial services, theme parks hemorrhage money daily (''e.g.'', Disneyland's operating costs are [[https://www.gobankingrates.com/money/business/how-much-costs-run-disneyland-for-day/ $3.25 million/day]])[[/note]] that Starfire was also benefitting from. Starfire's very lucky Dayton didn't [[HeroInsurance slap her with a lawsuit]].
52* DieForOurShip:
53** Beast Boy (Changeling)/Raven vs. Beast Boy/Terra (or Terra II). Fans of the former hated there being a second Terra so much that they actively wished death on the character (they got their wish). Fans of the latter still clung to the hope that Raven would be deep-sixed for even the third Terra, citing that she would make "more sense", getting them hate from [[LesYay Terra III/Power Girl]] fans. After both later Terras were written out of continuity, the shipping competition has since been reset to being between the first Terra and Raven.
54** A great deal of self-shippers with Jinx wish to see Kid Flash die.
55** Barbara Gordon for the Dick Grayson/Starfire shippers. Within ''Titans'' comics, Starfire is portrayed as his one true love... just as Barbara is over in the ''Batman'' comics. And from the 90s onwards, Dick was branded and written as ''much'' more of a Batman character [[note]]his solo series regularly crossed over with the other Bat-books and he would eventually take on the role of Batman, appearing in ''several'' Batman ongoings[[/note]]. To say that pairing's shippers are not happy is putting it mildly.
56* DracoInLeatherPants: The '80s villain Eric Forrester only wanted the power of Raven's soul-self and didn't really love her, as well as attempting to rape her. His supporters use the in-story reasoning that Eric was trying to save his humanity with his using of women for their souls, while turning him into a misunderstood nice guy that should date Raven.
57%%** Deathstroke and the original Terra mostly share this reception. Context?
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61* FanNickname: [[Manga/{{Berserk}} Femto]] for New 52 Raven.
62* FandomRivalry:
63** With the ''Batman'' fandom over Nightwing. A big part of it comes from the shipping wars regarding whether Dick should be with Starfire or Barbara Gordon, but beyond that, it's the idea of what kind of character Dick should be and what the Titans mean for his character. Some like the idea of Dick finally separating himself from Batman to become his own hero with the Titans, being the kind of hero Batman isn't in the wider DCU. Others like the idea of Dick finding himself with the Titans, then returning to the Batfamily and being recognised as Bruce's greatest ally and true heir.
64** During the New 52, Cyborg’s fans developed one with fans of Comicbook/MartianManhunter and the John Stewart version of Comicbook/GreenLantern. Manhunter fans were resentful of Cyborg for taking his place as a founding member of the [[Comicbook/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica JLA]], while Lantern fans argued that if DC wanted to use a Black superhero to diversify the League, Stewart made way more sense given he’d already served with the team in the past and was a main character in the beloved ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' TV show. This died down after Creator/ScottSnyder’s ''Comicbook/JusticeLeague2018'' run, which restored Martian Manhunter’s history with the League and also had John rejoin the team.
65* FanonDiscontinuity: While there are numerous examples, one that stands out in particular is the case regarding ''Titans'' #23 by Eddie Berganza, which acted as the final issue before Eric Wallace took over. Primarily a filler issue, it basically rewrote the Fab Five's friendship as a case of Roy being a nuisance they barely put up, while also revealing he had asked Donna to marry him. However, a premonition from Lilith Clay warning Donna that her redheaded husband would die led to Donna turning him down. Also, the Titans apparently knew beforehand about Roy's heroin addiction and once found him strung out in his Speedy costume before Robin told him "get help or get out." This issue blatantly ignored everything about the Fab Five when they were younger and it was clear Eddie Berganza had no idea what he was doing, or most likely it's a case of they needed to fill the gap before the new direction. Nearly every fan of the Titans and of the Fab Five choose to pretend this story never happened. It was just that bad.
66* FranchiseOriginalSin:
67** A recurring lament of the fanbase is the franchise perennially de-aging the Titans regulars to keep them attached to the title, but this goes back at least as far as ''The New Teen Titans'', which knocked the Changeling down a few years to become the junior member of the team, despite this series taking place "a few years" after his Titans appearances in the 60s and 70s, where he's indicated to be their peer.
68** A common complaint since the oughts has been the frequency with which Titans get killed off in the DC Universe, which became especially prevalent around the time of the 2003 run and has continued into the present day[[note]]For reference, at least seven of the victims in ''Comicbook/HeroesInCrisis'' were current or former Titans[[/note]]. This is another thing that can be traced back to Wolfman’s landmark run, which famously saw Terra die at the end of ''Comicbook/TheJudasContract'', as well as the deaths of other Titans as it progressed, usually either in the series itself (Jericho, Raven, Golden Eagle, Gnarrk and Danny Chase) or as part of events Wolfman himself wrote like ''Comicbook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' (Kole, Aquagirl and Dove). At the time, the death of a superhero was still a notable enough event that some of these actually landed and carried weight, with Terra’s demise in particular being regarded as a shocking and impactful development. However, as the years have have gone on, not only has [[DeathIsCheap death lost all meaning in comics]], but it’s happened to the Titans so often that many fans have been pushed into TooBleakStoppedCaring mode, having become convinced that DC sees the franchise as little more than a farm for future CListFodder.
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72* HilariousInHindsight:
73** Thia, the evil [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Titan]] of the sun, redesigned herself as a powerful businesswoman, as seen in ''ComicBook/TheOriginOfLilith''. She had a firm named "Sun publishing Inc.". This firm has absolutely no relation with the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Publishing_Company Sun Publishing Company]], and nobody implies that this later company is led by an evil witch that sets people on fire at a whim.
74** In ''Titans: Sell-Out Special'', the Titans realise that someone has done an animated TV show about them titled ''Teeny Titans''. [[WesternAnimation/TeenTitans2003 Eleven years later...]] or [[WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo twenty-one years later...]]
75** One of the groomsmen at Donna and Terry's wedding, named as Randolph, vaguely resembles [[WesternAnimation/SouthPark another Randolph]] who debuted nearly thirteen years after the comic was released.
76* ItWasHisSled: Terra being TheMole, and her general [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] nature. That arc is one of the most well-remembered arcs in the comics run, one of the most influential arcs in comic book history, and it helped make the series so popular in the 80s. When a [[ComicBook/TinyTitans kids comic]] spoils this in the characters first appearance, you know that it's his sled. The cartoon adaptation helped renew this spoiler, thanks to Terra's popularity (though ''that'' Terra was [[BrokenBird vastly different from]] [[PsychoForHire the original Terra]]).
77* JerkassWoobie: Roy Harper murdered a supervillain, turned his back on his friends, went back on heroin, and joined Deathstroke's mercenary team for the chance to kill Deathstroke. But considering that his right arm had been hacked off, was given a prosthetic which actually causes more pain and impairs his abilities as an archer, and his daughter, Lian, died, it's hard not to feel sorry for him. This is magnified by how out-of-character his friends and family acted during ''Rise of Arsenal'', and by how his joining Deathstroke's Titans was mainly due to Cheshire, Lian's mother, guilt tripping him into joining by saying that he "owed" her for Lian's death.
78* JustHereForGodzilla: The third ''Titans'' ongoing features the original Wally West, returned after not ''existing'' for the entirety of the New 52, ''and'' he has memories of the Pre-Flashpoint timeline. Needless to say, he's probably why ''Titans'' sells as well as it does.
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82* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Raven, who has had ships of various quality with Wally West, Joseph Wilson, Dick Grayson, [[DepravedBisexual Koriand'r]], Garfield Logan, and been shipped with numerous other Titans besides.
83* MoralEventHorizon:
84** Mirage impersonated Starfire and tricked Nightwing into sleeping with her. When the truth got revealed, Mirage laughed at the thought of Dick and Kory's relationship being ruined because he couldn't see through the disguise. To make matters worse, she still remains a KarmaHoudini over this act.
85** Osiris' killing of the Persuader was an accident. He tried justifying the death of Ryan Choi and everyone else he's killed as trying to bring his sister and Black Adam back. But now he freely admits that he enjoys violence and is just as bad as everyone accused him of being.
86* MyRealDaddy:
87** It's widely agreed that Devin Grayson (and ''maybe'' Brad Meltzer) is the only writer in recent years who ever really understood not just Roy's character, but Lian's as well.
88** The creative team of Marv Wolfman and George Perez for the Titans in general. They didn't create the team but they did propel the Titans to the greatest height of their popularity, which was no less than DC's # 1 selling title. And, although they did not create the team itself, they created Raven, Cyborg, Starfire, the Nightwing persona of Dick Grayson, the Troia persona of Donna Troy, Jericho, Deathstroke, H.I.V.E., Terra, Brother Blood, Trigon, Azarath, Cheshire, the "T" shaped building... can you really imagine the group ''without'' a number of those characters or concepts being around?
89* {{Narm}}: Lian Harper's funeral. The entire superhero community shows up, in their brightly colored costumes.
90* NauseaFuel: How the Titans retrieve Raven's gem during Geoff Johns' "Family Lost" arc: [[spoiler:The stone had been swallowed by Brother Blood, so Beast Boy shapeshifts into a worm and forces himself down the villain's throat, causing him to vomit. The gem, still covered in blood and bile, is then stuck on Raven's forehead]].
91* NeverLiveItDown:
92** Roy's heroin abuse, which was only present for one issue of Green Arrow and then followed by him going cold turkey. It doesn't help that following Lian's death he's gone back to using it.
93** While there are ''many'' reasons to snark about how bad Eric Wallace's run was, absolutely no one is ever going to forget how Cinder burned off a man's dick with her vagina. It also doesn't help that this is probably the ''only'' interesting thing about Cinder.
94** Terry Long (Donna Troy's husband during Marv Wolfman's run) is frequently accused of being a creep trying making passes at other girls, but the closest he ever actually came to that was when he suggested to Donna that she make Kory a regular model... and that was [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness really early in the run]]. For the remainder of his 80s appearances, he's pretty obviously devoted to Donna.
95* OnceOriginalNowCommon: The Wolfman/Perez run's focus on actual arcs and character development and dynamics made it indisputably one of DC's most successful books and helped modernize the company's storytelling considerably, giving it a fighting chance against Marvel in the later Bronze Age. Modern readers tend to wonder what all the fuss was about, comparing it unfavorably to later books with similar formulas, or even comics like Claremont's ''X-Men'' that were running at the same time.
96* OneSceneWonder: Lord Damyn ([[TheMagnificent High of Highs, Best of Best]]) is a supporting character who only ever appears in two issues (#24 and #25) of ''The New Teen Titans''. [[LaughablyEvil He]] [[NotSoHarmlessVillain makes]] quite an [[CloudCuckoolander impression,]] [[ImAHumanitarian though.]]
97* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: An odd case with any Teen Titans team formed with members of the [=YJ4=] (Tim Drake, Bart Allen, Cassie Sandsmark, and Conner Kent): Creator/PeterDavid's ''ComicBook/YoungJustice'' book did not create any of these characters, but he wrote their initial interactions, chemistry, and helped introduce a huge number of fans to them and comics. Especially Wonder Girl; Cassie was TheScrappy to a large number of people until Peter David made her popular enough to win a fan held election for leader. Subsequent writers failed to replicate David's style, leading to runs with mixed (Geoff Johns') or outright negative reception (Scott Lobdell's).
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101* TheScrappy:
102** Danny Chase. Not only did he actually look like CousinOliver, but ''everyone'' hated him. He mocked Jason Todd's death (in front of Dick Grayson, Jason's adopted brother) and his sole Crowning Moment of Anything was his own death.
103** Terry Long, for being considerably older than Donna, coming off as creepy, and making a blatant pass at her friend Kory. He actually became even more of a JerkAss in the '90s, before he was killed off in John Byrne's run of Wonder Woman.
104** The Team Titans, for being a failed ''ComicBook/XForce'' CaptainErsatz stuffed with CListFodder; by ''ComicBook/ZeroHourCrisisInTime'', all but ''two'' were RetGone with only Terra II and Mirage remaining. Mirage in particular is disliked by Dick/Kory fans due to Mirage being a bizarre {{Yandere}}, kidnapping Kory and using her shapeshifting to subject Dick Grayson to a BedTrick, and then, after the real Kory is freed, using her shapeshifting to pose nude as Kory for an adult magazine.
105** Cassandra Sandsmark, she came off like a raging AlphaBitch after her boyfriend's death. It's worse when you remember that she started out as her school's lovable geek. Her New 52 version has similar controversy, but is also hated for being a thief, being "overtly sexualized" and having her connection with Wonder Woman only recognizable to readers of Wondie's book (she's the daughter of Diana's half-brother, i.e. the niece of Wonder Woman, though neither of them know about it as of now).
106*** Once Conner returned to the series (before the reboot), you think she wouldn't have had much reason to keep lashing out at her teammates, but some writers felt differently. Under Johns' (ironically) and others' pens since Conner's return, she had been portrayed positively and having gotten over her grief. But other writers, especially in the case of Felicia Henderson, had continued to portray her as an angry shrew, who even goes as far as to treat her back-from-the-dead boyfriend like crap (eventually leading to their breakup).
107** Prysm, a member of Dan Jurgens' volume 2 team, isn't very liked by some classic fans due to coming off too naive and stereotypically feminine, spoiled, and her visual appeal mostly coming from the fact that she was nude all the time.
108** Fringe from Jurgens' run is hated for lacking personality and never being as developed. Unlike Prysm, it's hard to find fans that can tolerate him.
109** Minion from Wolfman's ''New Titans'' is either hated or ignored by most fans due to the fact that he came in during an AudienceAlienatingEra, and that he seemed to be pushed in as a cool new teenage character but lacked interesting traits.
110** Bombshell was widely disliked by a number of fans during her brief tenure on the team. She was criticized for having very little personality and was accused of trying to ape the characterization of the recently departed fan favorite Ravager. The fact that she was a MotorMouth and a JerkAss didn't do much to help her standing with fans.
111** Deathstroke's Titans team are even more so ignored than Fringe and Minion, who are at least mentioned in nostalgic regard when discussing the past Titans team, whereas Slade's team of mercenaries is completely ignored save for when someone is mentioning a member that was already a Titan (Roy, Osiris) or associated with the group (Cheshire, Deathstroke).
112** The [=DEOrphans=], a group of metahuman kids from the DEO, were hated even more than the unpopular Titans. This was because they got in the way of the Titans' screentime and that they were simply useless at fighting or doing much to advance the plot. Their presence also caused the "Epsilon" arc to be heavily rewritten, and a bunch of other planned stories had been thrown out.
113** Pantha and Baby Wildebeest had received hate and ridicule for being "awful '90s characters" from various fans, although their deaths in Infinite Crisis showed them to be more on the BaseBreakingCharacter side, as many other fans decried their horrible fate.
114** Flamebird. After the first Crisis, the original Bat-Girl no longer existed and Barbara Gordon was deemed to be the original. When Marv Wolfman and George Perez decided to revamp the Titans West team for the Post-Crisis origins of the Teen Titans, Betty Kane was reintroduced as Mary Elizabeth (''"Bette"'') Kane, now with the codename Flamebird and a ValleyGirl with [[StalkerWithACrush a strong desire to get the affections and praise of Nightwing in any way]]. As Wolfman had no love for the Titans West save for Lilith and Changeling, the portrayals of the revamped versions, ESPECIALLY Bette, earned them spots high on the Titans "Scrappy" list. Flamebird wound up as a ButtMonkey-type character for years to come, even though some writers attempted to make her seem more interesting through [[InformedAbility "depths"]] in her origin (stating her physical prowess and skills that rarely seemed to be reflected). Geoff Johns started a more streamlined take on the character in the ''Beast Boy'' mini-series, and it seemed that Greg Rucka was attempting [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap to revise her into a much more competent heroine]]. The ComicBook/New52 pressed the ResetButton via the ''Batwoman'' series, as Bette now lost most of her established history (and previous upgrade), making her come off nearly TooStupidToLive and get mutilated by an enemy. She's later appeared to have gone back on track to a darker and more serious revamp in her costume.
115** Golden Eagle was initially hated for being a shoe-horned attempt to give Hawkman a sidekick and knockoff in the Pre-Crisis era, and was hated Post-Crisis for being a slacker surfer-type guy who'd only fight if it could get him women and attention. [[AlasPoorScrappy He got a little sympathy after being killed off]], but after Jimmy Palmiotti and Justin Gray retconned his death and revealed him to be a {{Jerkass}}-type villain with a grudge against Hawkman, fans had new reason to despise the guy (or the direction he was taken in).
116* SeasonalRot:
117** The renewal of the original series, once it stopped being about a team of superheroes and [[GenreShift started being about a team of secret agent ex-superheroes]] (the Titans were pressured to quit heroics because [[MyGreatestFailure they failed to stop a celebrity peacemaker from getting shot]]), which lasted until they finally decided to get back into costume again. During the very last death-throes of the series there was a three-issue arc that introduced [[WestCoastTeam Titans West]], which wasn't enough to stave of cancellation.
118** The Wolfman run suffered after George Perez departed, as this sent a number of shockwaves throughout the book, including a huge increase in Wangst, repeated arcs, Deathstroke being EasilyForgiven, and the much reviled [[CreatorsPet Danny Chase]].
119** Then came the dawn of the 90s; newly promoted editor Jonathan Peterson had come to the opinion that the current state of the Titans was too boring, too episodic, and had too many characters (especially the long-forgotten Golden Eagle), and so he had Wolfman start the 10th anniversary of his ''New Teen Titans'' run with the long, difficult to follow "ComicBook/TitansHunt" arc and the book began self-destructing, with [[{{Irony}} a ton of uninteresting and/or unlikable new characters being introduced]], loads of 90s clichés, chaotic storytelling and art, and tons of {{Ass Pull}}s. After Cyborg got PutOnABusToHell, the book was left in shambles, with the team constantly changing and being interrupted by crossovers. By the end, many felt the ending to the run was a MercyKill.
120** While the Johns run caused a BrokenBase, most notably due to ''ComicBook/YoungJustice'' fans feeling their favourite superheroes were derailed for the purpose of "graduating" them to the Titans, several fans enjoyed the return of the book's original title and cast, but the novelty wound up wearing off fairly quickly, with the first 25 or so issues from that run being divisive at best. The book's quality went even further downhill with the ''One Year Later'' portion, after which Johns left the book. Not helping matters was how ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' seemingly made the Titans "[[CListFodder the heroes that it's okay to kill]]", further contributing to the team's fluctuating membership. The remainder of the series proved to be a slow decline, with characters being offed for no reason, being pointlessly DarkerAndEdgier (including an infamous story where a demonic Wonder Dog mauled the Wonder Twins leading to backlash from comics sites), [[TookALevelInJerkass characters acting like assholes]] for no reason, and the [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot few usable plotlines being wasted]]. The run ended with issue 100 and was replaced by the ''ComicBook/New52'' run, which unfortunately became a huge AudienceAlienatingEra of the title.
121* StrangledByTheRedString:
122** Donna Troy and Lilith Clay had rather spontaneous and episodic interests in other heroes and characters in the original series, with drama between Donna Troy and either Wally, Roy, and even Hank Hall, with Donna's own interest largely flip-flopping between them. Lilith Clay had some very suddenly deep connections with Mal and even Gnarrk after their arrivals.
123** A not infrequent occurrence of some of Wolfman's writing in ''New Teen Titans''. Examples include:
124*** Wally and Raven, which started when Raven surreptitiously ''forced'' Wally to want to join the Teen Titans by subjecting him to some light BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood, though she admitted to some completely un-foreshadowed romantic interest for him on her own part.
125*** Donna Troy and Terry Long, who were already in a relationship by the time NTT started, despite her competing interests in other heroes in the 60s and 70s.
126** Tim Drake ([[ComicBook/{{Robin}} Robin III]]) and Cassie Sandsmark ([[ComicBook/WonderGirl Wonder Girl II]]). Given the fact that they had a very platonic interaction before the hookup, that Wonder Girl was the girlfriend of Robin's dead best friend ComicBook/{{Superboy}}, and the reason they kissed in the first place was due to mutual mourning of said person... yeah, it was definitely a trainwreck. Fans of both Wonder Girl and Robin sighed a collective breath of relief when the pairing ended.
127** ...Though the return of the subplot in the New 52 only reignited the fan rage. To the series credit, the first few issues did establish UnresolvedSexualTension between the two and succeeding issues suggested that the romance would be approached slowly and with an organic approach. Then [[AssPull issue #17 happened]]. First, [[DoggedNiceGuy Tim Drake]] kissed Solstice from out of nowhere, even though he knows she's in a relationship with Kid Flash. Then, on the next page, it's heavily implied [[ChasteHero he]] and Wonder Girl have sex, and have had sex before. And the last page reveals that [[BrainwashedAndCrazy something's very wrong with Tim]]. Later issues reveal that Trigon was manipulating him, but the writer tried to write the situation under the rug by saying he was only enhancing Tim's desires. Unfortunately, that still meant he took a famously chaste hero like Tim, forced him to have sex under the influence (i.e. rape) with his LoveInterest, and then to add salt to the wound, Wonder Girl was then shown trying to get with Superboy (probably her most popular suitor) to get past the fling, Solstice promptly forgot the whole event, and everyone was written poorly for seven or eight more issues before they were cancelled.
128* StrawmanHasAPoint: The evil alternate Kid Flash during ''ComicBook/TheTerrorOfTrigon'' pointed out that, although they had so much UnresolvedSexualTension, Wally West was so undecided that he would never enjoy the warm kisses of Raven. And he was right.
129* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: ''Titans'' becoming a [[ComicBook/{{Titans2010}} villain-driven book]] about a team of mercenaries led by Deathstroke. The reviews for the series before the change had already been poor, but after Eric Wallace and Fabrizio Fiorentino took over, the book found its way on many "Worst Comics of 2010" lists. One common complaint was the death of Ryan Choi.
130* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
131** The Team Titans had a lot of good potential on being the Titans equivalent of X-Force as originally planned only to suffer from poor writing and execution that cemented their status as a [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] team and led to most of the team being {{retgone}}d as a result of ''ComicBook/ZeroHour''. It didn't help that their comic book was unfortunately affected by ExecutiveMeddling.
132** Jay Faerber's scrapped plans to have Epsilon in his ''Titans'' run being Danny Chase could've been a RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap moment for him were it not for ExecutiveMeddling to nix it that prompted Faerber later leaving the title.
133** Solstice was a bright and perky new addition to the team who unfortunately debuted just before DC relaunched and rebooted everything with the New 52, at which point she was dragged into Scott Lobdell's run and put through a rather bizarre and meandering plot that turned her into a BrokenBird and ended with her killing a man so she could stay imprisoned alongside her boyfriend (Bar Torr, the New 52 Kid Flash). After that, the last time she appeared was as a dead body in ''ComicBook/HeroesInCrisis''.
134* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: There are fans who think the original plan for ''New Titans'' issue 100 in which Dick and Kory do get married would've worked better than the final version.
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138* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
139** Deathstroke's mercenary team of Titans were described by writer Eric Wallace as being bad people, but it's clear that the majority of the team was supposed to be seen as tragic and sympathetic due to their horrible backstories and the recent series of traumas that pushed them into the team. This included Cheshire and Tattooed Man losing their respective child, Osiris being haunted by the man he accidentally killed to protect his sister, and the years of sexual abuse and SurvivorsGuilt Cinder suffered from. However, any sympathy these characters might have gained was instantly crushed by the team's first actual appearance when they brutally slaughtered [[ComicBook/TheAtom Ryan Choi]], followed by Osiris's gradual transformation into a self-centered brat and Cinder stupidly letting a serial child rapist free because she rushed her attempt to murder him. The only member of the team who managed to retain any sense of sympathy from fans was [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Roy Harper]], who was not a part of Ryan's death and had the distinction of being manipulated by both Deathstroke ''and'' Cheshire. It helps that readers were still ''majorly'' pissed off at how poorly Roy was being handled after ''ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice'' and ''Rise of Arsenal''.
140** Another Titans example would have to be Cassandra Sandsmark and Tim Drake during the "One Year Later" storylines. Understandably the two are still reeling from Superboy's death, but Cassandra began to sorely grate the nerves of the readers because she TookALevelInJerkass and became an insufferable, bitter asshole. Tim came across as more sympathetic in his grief especially since the writers were deliberately ignoring parts of his backstory (like the stepmother who was nowhere to be found after his dad died), but then he became involved in a {{Wangst}} fueled on/off relationship with Cassandra that ultimately went nowhere. But what ultimately made the two unsympathetic was their constant zigzagging with Rose Wilson in the Titans, either accepting her as one of their own or viewing her as the team's token psycho and badmouthing her behind her back. In fact, Rose left the team and briefly allied herself with the new Clock King when she heard Tim and Cass profess she was a lost cause. This is all despite knowing very well that Rose's FaceHeelTurn was not of her choosing, but because her father pumped her full of drugs and drove her insane
141** Yet another would be in the New 52. In an incident that was ''obviously'' supposed to garner sympathy for the character, Bunker used his psionic bricks to slam an UngratefulBastard against a brick wall, because said bastard was ungrateful for being saved by Bunker and Beast Boy, because they "looked like a bunch of..." While Bunker was pissed that he was going to use a homophobic slur (Bunker is gay himself), literally nothing implies he was. So instead of Bunker attacking someone over a slur, which still would've been a little much, he's attacking a guy over something ''he didn't even do, with no implication that he was going to do it.''
142* ValuesDissonance:
143** Marv Wolfman's old writing on specific aspects of sex in the ''New Teen Titans'' and ''New Titans'' has become painful on review--situations like Changeling harassing women or Mirage's "rivalry" with Starfire (in which she pretends to be Starfire to play a BedTrick on Dick Grayson or feature Starfire's body in adult magazines--essentially ''revenge porn'') are often written as if they were wacky hijinks.
144** At the end of ''Judas Contract'', everyone pretty much writes off Terra as a psychopath who betrayed the Titans and banged Deathstroke for kicks. Modern audiences are much more likely to view her as the victim of horrific abuse at Deathstroke's hands, and the Titans callous to their friend's trauma and suicide. WordOfGod put the blame at Terra's feet for nearly 40 years.
145* VindicatedByHistory: Dan Jurgens' run was considered to be an AudienceAlienatingEra after the 16-year Wolfman run ended but has since been considered to be a good run held back by the fans' difficulty with accepting a group of entirely new characters carrying the title of such a beloved team.
146* {{Wangst}}: A staple since the eighties. Wolfman made heavy use of EmotionsVsStoicism and LoveHurts... but as the years went by, it became increasingly apparent that there was no ''point'' to any of the ongoing personal conflict; all the drama was just to ensure the characters were never actually ''happy''. The characters spent time talking about their problems, but they never got around to solving them until it was either too late or Wolfman could hit them with a new permutation of the problem.
147* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical:
148** "The Return of Donna Troy" has a discussion between Troia (a brainwashed evil conqueror at the time) and Athyns. Troia claimed that the aliens she was attacking had some dangerous universal weapon, which must be destroyed on behalf of the universe. Athyns pointed that they were not surrounded by any dangerous evil army but by poor people ravaged by war, and asked [[ArmorPiercingQuestion if they had such a weapon, why didn't they attempt to defend themselves with it]]. Athyns concluded, before starting to fight, that there is no such weapon and that the Titans of Myth have lied to her. Yes, you guessed it: the comic book was published at the time of the Iraq war.
149** Exaggerated by the pseudo-Silver Age "Lost Annual", in which the Fab Five go to a distant planet to rescue one kidnapped President John F. Kennedy for his abilities to win a propaganda-heavy war against innocent natives. This is, of course, a version of John F. Kennedy who was actually a skilled diplomatist who was capable of ending wars, and it wasn't him but the alien body-double who was assassinated. (It only counts as "Not Political" because the Vietnam War -- which the RealLife JFK got America ''into'' -- wasn't mentioned directly).
150* TheWoobie: Kid Devil, who was on the team during the era of "One Year Later". He has the most pathetic back story prior to joining the team, and ends up getting the worst treatment after.
151* {{Woolseyism}}: Azar is called Azur in the Portuguese translation, as her original name coincidentally means "bad luck" in that language.
152* WTHCostumingDepartment: Beast Boy's historic pick of red and white colors for his outfits is sorely outdated, going all the way back to his early ''Comicbook/DoomPatrol'' days, which is where such a combination at least made sense as the team colors. But following his departure from the title, the colors stopped making sense for him, especially versions using lots of white. One of Beast Boy's main visual principles is the fact that he's ''[[AmazingTechnicolorPopulation bright green]]'', which by rights should be used as a contrast against his costume to draw attention to his face and potentially limbs, but white, being by definition the brightest color, has more contrast with everything, which draws attention ''away'' from Beast Boy's face. His black-and-purple outfits inspired by the cartoon tend to serve him much better by taking advantage of his bright green colors for said contrast.
153** Special note must go to his tacky face-mask from his early Doom Patrol, which was simply ridiculous regardless of what combination of purple, black, and yellow it was using in any given issue.
154** The problems of the red and white color combination were in full swing in the 80s, and his version of the outfit then also had a bizarre little square of red-on-white contrast just below his waist, which only served to draw audience eyes painfully close to Gar's crotch.
155** In the 90s, Beast Boy decided to complement the 80s look with a deep black ''trench coat'' of all things. The poor boy was going through ADarkerMe phase.
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