Line #25 YMMV/SuperRobotWarsK


1	* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The entire planet of Atreim - protagonist [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsK Mist Rex]] describes it as a peaceful utopia, but also states that despite '''2000 years''' of peace, it had a defense force ''even larger'' than the Earth's, the implication said force is bigger than [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny O.M.N.I. Enforcer]] and the [[Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Neo U.N. Army]] combined. Coupled with the fact that Mist was a rookie member of the Altreim defense force, yet mentioned he was quite used to '''riot suppression''', it begs the question - was Atreim truly a utopia or was it a ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour''-esque police state?
2	* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
3	** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUU93LvIL3c Edax]]", the {{Leitmotif}} heard if players are fighting against the [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsK "Edax" generals]] and the BigBad.
4	** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mld2IxYXgt0 Astral Burst]]", the music that plays during the final attack of the Mist's MidSeasonUpgrade.
5	* EnsembleDarkhorse: Of the series debuts included, ''Anime/GunXSword'' stands as the best received, owing to both its GameBreaker-style BoringButPractical units and its unique & quirky cast of characters. Despite ''Anime/GunXSword'' being self-contained for one game until ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsT'', many players deemed the series a saving grace to this divisive title, who played ''K'' [[JustHereForGodzilla just for it]] or [[ColbertBump ended up watching]] the {{Anime}} thanks to its inclusion here.
6	* FanNickname: Now on its own [[FanNickname/SuperRobotWars page]].
7	* GameBreaker: See [[GameBreaker/SuperRobotWars entries here]]
8	* HilariousInHindsight: ''Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor'' is in this game with ''Anime/OvermanKingGainer'', which features an Exodus in its plot. The former's second season (released six years after this game) is called ''Exodus'', but it's also HarsherInHindsight because some characters who survived in the first season and ''[[TheMovie Heaven and Earth]]'' were KilledOffForReal.
9	* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: Part of the reason why Mist is a memetic punching bag is because he's [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic unintentionally a massive jerk]] who rubs the fandom the wrong way that they preferred the villains. Though Edax is not that complex as a villain, fans don't have as many bad things to say compared to what they have to say for [[TheScrappy Mist]].
10	* MemeticMutation: [[Memes/SuperRobotWars Now with its own page]].
11	* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome:
12	** [[Anime/OvermanKingGainer King Gainer defeating the Overdevil]] with the help of [[Anime/GaikingLegendOfDaikuMaryu Gaiking]].
13	** After the fiasco with ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'', [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Cagalli Yula Athla]] returns to piloting duties in ''K''. Banpresto even makes her first scenario one that's awesome on principle - taking on the [[Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Festum]] in the outdated, under-powered [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Strike Rouge]] becomes a lot more badass when players realize the Festum can [[GravityMaster alter gravity]], [[PowerOfTheVoid create black holes at will]], [[{{Telepathy}} read minds]], and pretty much EVERY canon pilot from ''Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor'' who had a chance against them had been genetically modified. If there was any enemy for Cagalli to take a swing at to show she hadn't lost anything, ''this'' was the one.
14	* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: A lot of problems fans had with the cast of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' are solved in this game:
15	** Cagalli's {{Chickification}} is completely nullified, as she not only keeps the personality she had back in ''Gundam SEED'', but also joins the heroes on the battlefield as soon as she meets up with them, and remains piloting for the entire game.
16	** The Archangel team doesn't attack both sides of the conflict like in the show. Their debut has them helping the heroes and immediately joining them. In the following scenario, when they come across the Minerva battling some Orb soldiers, Kira only attacks Orb (non-fatally of course), the clear aggressors in this case, and then offers the Minerva a team-up to stop the massacre in Berlin, which only fails because the Minerva received orders to shoot down the Archangel.
17	** Athrun's indecisiveness is gone, as he flatly refuses to fight his old companions and has no issues telling the Minerva crew he thinks fighting them is a mistake. Cagalli later mentions part of the reason he stayed with ZAFT after that was to investigate Durandal, so he isn't guilty of blind trust either.
18	** Neo expresses a desire to become TheAtoner even after his brainwashing is undone (but before he regains all of his memories), and he even gets to fight other members of Phantom Pain to show he is serious about it.
19	** Yuuna Roma Seinan becomes less of an incompetent coward after being called out by Cagalli for his mistakes, to the point where [[spoiler:he acknowledges his faults and steps aside when Cagalli forcibly takes command of Orb. He even gets to [[SparedByTheAdaptation live through the Battle of Orb]] so he can show his CharacterDevelopment]].
20	** Heine and Meer are SparedByAdaptation and given new, albeit small character arcs. Heine starts questioning his JustFollowingOrders mentality after seeing how far Durandal is willing to go, and may be convinced to pull a HeelFaceTurn during the climax of the ''Gundam SEED Destiny'' plot, depending on the actions of the player. Meer is allowed to recover from her SanitySlippage and is asked by Lacus herself to keep singing in her name, as long as she does it for the sake of true peace.
21	* TheScrappy: Mist is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, the most '''hated''' ''Super Robot Wars'' protagonist ever. He spends most of ''K'' complaining about how much better Altreim is than Earth, acts like a {{Jerkass}} to the cast over the party's character flaws (berating [[Anime/{{Godannar}} Goh Saruwatari]] [[LoveTriangle for his women troubles]], telling [[Anime/GunXSword Van]] to get over his bride-to-be's death, insulting Kira's idealistic pacifism and denigrating inexperienced pilots like [[Anime/OvermanKingGainer Gainer Sanga]], [[Anime/ZoidsGenesis Ruuji Familion]], and [[Anime/GaikingLegendOfDaikuMaryu Daiya Tsuwabuki]]). The ultimate expression of this is his reaction to the ending as "[[WasntThatFun a fun party]]" (see MemeticMutation) by completely glossing over [[spoiler:the actions of [[Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Soushi Minashiro]], who [[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed himself to ultimately destroy]] the EldritchAbomination BigBad that was '''RESPONSIBLE FOR ALTREIM'S DESTRUCTION''']]. Made worse when a lot of his attitude is {{Hypocrit\|e}}ical, such as one ending putting him in a LoveTriangle situation after insulting Goh for the very same reasons or some instances where he [[LeeroyJenkins recklessly charges at Edax forces and gets his ass handed to him]], after telling off other pilots for doing just that. There's a reason why Mist leads the MemeticMutation entry for ''Super Robot Wars''.
22	* ScrappyMechanic:
23	** {{Zigzagged}} with the "Partner Battle" system: many players consider it useless when standard {{Mook}}s later in the game have access to "Combo Attack". Meanwhile, partnering two allied units prevents the use of "Combo Attack", further discouraging the system. However, those who ''do'' want to use the "Partner Battle" system find it does have some uses, such as always having [[CombiningMecha mecha in range of each other to combine]] or easier access to {{Combination Attack}}s. Ultimately, it's a question of weighing the benefits of these vs. being able to use a "Combo Attack". These are largely the reasons why the system is revamped in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsL''.
24	** Following the release of ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ'', installments began standardizing many game-play mechanics, such as "[[DiminishingReturnsForBalance evasion decay]]"[[note]]As a unit is attacked, its evasion rate decreases every time it is targeted[[/note]], raising the cost of "Spirit Commands" and balancing individual Will gains. The one gripe players have with ''K'' regarding standardization are terrain rankings on units: first, ''K'' goes with the idea that if a series is never set in space, it cannot have more than rank of "B" in space. This is fine until players realize Anime/MazingerZ, who has never been in space, gets a rank of "A". This also extends to the [[Anime/FafnerInTheAzureDeadAggressor Fafners]], while the [[Anime/GunXSword Dann of Thursday]] (who not only fought in space, but fought to a draw against the [[Anime/GunXSword Saudade of Sunday]], an "[[AMechByAnyOtherName Armor]]" built for space combat within its own series) gets a measly "B". Secondly, despite the primary units from ''Anime/{{Godannar}}'' fighting often in water and the Fafners originating from an ''island'', none of them have a better rank of "B" in water terrain (the exceptions are the [[Anime/{{Godannar}} Cosmo Diver]], a dedicated underwater/space unit and one of the unlockable Fafner units).
25	** Multiple series in ''K'' don't have many flight-capable machines, which causes problems when late-game {{Mook}}s all take to the skies. This would have been fine, provided the game gave players enough equippable parts allowing flight, but it doesn't.
26	* ThatOneLevel
27	** Scenario 5 pits players against every named villain in the first half of ''Anime/OvermanKingGainer'', including Brunhilde, who in-series attacked friends and foes alike, yet in ''K'' only attacks the ''players' units''. Fortunately, only Brunhilde needs to be destroyed, except it has 10000+ {{Hit Point}}s (at Scenario 5, no less), and there are around 7-8 FragileSpeedster {{Flunky Boss}}es attacking the party at the same time. Fortunately, the scenario has easy {{Mook}}s to handle.
28	** Scenario 6 kicks off the ''Anime/GunXSword'' plot, only Van is attacked by a lot of [[Anime/GaikingLegendOfDaikuMaryu Darius Empire]] {{Mook}}s. The player must ensure Van survives for two turns until the [[Anime/GaikingLegendOfDaikuMaryu Daikuu Maryu]] appears to aid him, which is easier said than done.
29	** Scenario 7 is a mix of the two before: it begins with the Dann of Thursday, the [[Anime/GunXSword El Dora]] [[CombiningMecha V]] (unfortunately, it's an EN guzzler), the [[Anime/GunXSword Brow]][[CombatMedic nie]] and Mist being attacked by a bunch of ''King Gainer'' grunts and bosses (again). A few turns later, the rest of the party arrives, only enemies also get two tough bosses as reinforcements: [[Anime/OvermanKingGainer Cynthia Lane]] and [[Anime/GunXSword Ray Lundgren]]. Like Brunhilde in scenario 5, they only attack the party, despite neither of them being aligned with the [[Anime/OvermanKingGainer Siberian Railroad]].
30	** Finally, scenario 8 is MORE ''Overman King Gainer'' bosses/{{Mook}}s, plus Cynthia again, and the [[Anime/GunXSword Diablo of Monday]]. This scenario's slightly easier, but if players want the ''Anime/GunXSword'' {{Secret Character}}s, [[GuideDangIt Van must destroy the Diablo]] or they're [[PermanentlyMissableContent lost]]. Fortunately, after all this hell, Scenario 9 is an easy BreatherLevel.
31	** Any ''VideoGame/VirtualOn''-based scenarios: the first two are long and boring, set in corridors against {{Mook}}s with MAP weapons, while the last one is on an open field with more grunts and EliteMooks with huge HitPoint pools and the "Combo Attack" pilot skill, allowing them to crush the player's support units.
32	*** Scratch that: let's just say ''any'' long corridor-based scenario is long and dull (we're looking at you, final ''Fafner'' scenario).
33	** In one ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDCE73Stargazer'' scenario, players must prevent any enemy unit from reaching a certain point [[JustForFun/RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]]. This sort of mission objective isn't a problem, except many series and their respective mecha in this game don't go into space from their home series, meaning they're stuck with a relatively low rank of "B" for terrain (see ScrappyMechanic above). To emphasize, a LightningBruiser like the King Gainer can easily get hit and often miss in space.
34	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Although [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Kira, Yzak, and Dearka]] are playable characters in a game that also features ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDCE73Stargazer'', they don't have much interactions with the Phantom Pain trio that pilot upgraded versions of their old mechas. This is in spite of Sven seemingly being interested in the "Ultimate Coordinator" in Kira's debuting scenario. The interactions between those two are demoted to pre-battle dialogue, and Kira's presence has no impact on Sven's character arc. Meanwhile, Yzak and Dearka join the heroes in the last scenario of the ''Cosmic Era'' Gundam plotline, which naturally precludes any rivalry between them and Phantom Pain. Not to mention that the Blu Duel and Verde Buster aren't even unlockable units to use.
35	* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: To the umpteenth degree for Mist - in a better written narrative, Mist's back-story as a FailureKnight who's trying to do better in a new world might make him a legitimate candidate of being a sympathetic hero that players can root for. Unfortunately, the way he runs his mouth without reading the situation ''throughout the course of the game'' gave Mist the most unintentional {{Jerkass}} personality - one that fails to endear any fans to him - without letting the story tell him the way he was intended to be, ultimately dropping him to TheScrappy status for good measure.

Context YMMV / SuperRobotWarsK