Line #50 YMMV/SpiralKnights


1	* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[AwesomeMusic/SpiralKnights The whole soundtrack can qualify.]]
2	* BrokenBase: As with many MMO's and games in general, nearly every update that changes a significant portion of the game causes uproar mixed with approval.
3	** You either think that soaring energy prices are isolating the Free-To-Play base and it needs to stabilize cheaply, or you'll accept that the crown prices are going to increase and that the developers deserve to get paid.
4	*** You're assuming the developers get paid more when crown prices for energy are higher. But since all energy enters the game through being bought with real money it makes absolutely no difference to them who buys it or how many crowns it goes for in game money. For every 750 energy consumed they get three dollars, regardless of whether it was auctioned for 4000 crowns or 8000. There's no reason for them to put in a cap, but no reason not to. As long as demand for energy stays the same it makes no difference to their earnings at all.
5	*** They seem to actually be experts in manipulating the CE prices. When the prices are getting too high, they tend to release a new item that's only available for a large sum of crowns, causing a high demand for a fast crown injection.
6	** When Three Rings reworked the entire game to remove Mist Energy, the forums basically exploded.
7	** The words: "This game is dying/dead" seems to be a controversial topic.
8	* BreatherBoss: Compared to [[NintendoHard what you have to go through to get to them]], Big Iron and Maulos are surprisingly simple boss fights.
9	** Big Iron never has more than two minions active at once (compare to other bosses who can have from four to ''eight'' respawning minions at once), and only has two attacks: A BeamSpam that takes several seconds to charge and blatantly telegraphs where it'll hit, and a tentacle attack that's simple to dodge so long as you keep moving. The main issue for the fight is waiting for Big Iron's shield to go down.
10	** Maulos, meanwhile, is basically a Trojan KingMook who only has the Trojan's overhead swing attack (other Trojans also have a dash attack and an [=AoE=] charge attack), it takes a long time for him to wind up the attack, and unlike many other bosses, his minions do ''not'' respawn.
11	* BreatherLevel: Treasure Vaults. No enemies except for a smattering of Kleptolisks, pleasant scenery, treasure boxes and crowns everywhere. As a bonus, getting a Treasure Vault level usually means ''not'' getting an [[MultiMookMelee Arena]] or worse, a [[DeathWorld Graveyard.]]
12	** It's worth noting that, while Treasure Vaults are certainly the least ''dangerous'' of those three level types, they're also typically the least ''profitable''. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9Fo4DZiWdU Catchy music, though...]]
13	* ComplacentGamingSyndrome:
14	** Vog Cub or Skolver, Owlite or Thorn shield or Crest of Almire, Gran Faust/Divine Avenger, Barbarous Thorn Blade/Final Flourish, Glacius, Polaris, Blitz Needle, Krogmo trinkets (especially heart ones). There is some variation, but expect to see those a ''lot''.
15	** The Wolver Sets in general (Vog Cub/Skolver/Snarbolax) are very popular, as they provide various buffs to swords. Since swords are generally seen to have the highest DPS out of all the other weapon types, expect to see a lot of players wearing variations of the above.
16	*** Gets to the point of painful CGS in Lockdown due to the set in combination with the Striker class making you an almost untouchable GlassCannon.
17	* DemonicSpiders: Tier 2 and 3 Mecha Knights, all varieties. They have more hitpoints than nearly every other common mob, use combo attacks and an [=AoE=] charge attack like players do, run as fast as players while charging, shield-block projectiles, and inflict elemental status effects based on type. Their drawback is they periodically Shock themselves, except it's not really a drawback since if you're next to them when they do it you get Shocked too. This would be bad enough if they weren't often accompanied by [[ShootTheMedicFirst Gremlin Menders]] and guaranteed to appear in groups in every single Arena.
18	** On the subject of Gremlin Menders, possibly the best example of a Demonic Spider is the Darkfang variety usually found on Tier 3 (though they might pop up on the last floor of Tier 2 if you're unlucky). As if their increased HP and speed wasn't bad enough, now they get ''[[LuckilyMyShieldWillProtectMe 360 degree shields]]'' that will spawn as soon as they're near death; these have at least twice the health of the Mender and serve as an annoyingly large roadblock that you can't walk through. [[DifficultySpike Oh, and they can still heal themselves and their allies while in the shield]]. Needless to say these guys put an end to a great many Arena runs. They were incredibly powerful in the Beta days due to healing themselves and thus constantly being driven back and forth from the critical damage point where they summoned the shield, to the point where the dev team had to put a cooldown on it. The general consensus nowadays is that if you can't kill a Darkfang Mender before it makes a second shield, then [[BeefGate you have no business being on Tier 3]].
19	** Another example would be the Alpha Wolvers, before their nerf. They used to home after you when using their 3-bite combo.
20	** Many shadow-damaging enemies are Demonic Spiders. Kats are [[LightningBruiser extremely mobile,]] [[ConfusionFu and incredibly unpredictable]], and they're pretty annoying, but then there are devilites. They dodge most gun shots, [[BulletHell throw projectiles at you en masse]], [[FromBadToWorse and certain devilites get even WORSE]] when you kill Pit Bosses, and don't get started on [[TakingYouWithMe Howlitzers]] and [[InvincibleMinorMinion Grimalkins]]...
21	** Rocket Puppies. Gun Puppies capable of doing hideous amounts of damage to you in one fire-inducing homing shot. Exactly how bad is it? The one and only Rocket Puppy in Firestorm Citadel has gained infamy for being difficult to sneak past.
22	** Danger Missions often have their own exclusive enemies made specifically to make your trek through the clockworks absolute hell.
23	** Apocrea Harvesters. Not only do they have a lot of health making fighting them futile, they can root you in place as they leech your health even if your shield is up, and the attack used to root you is difficult to get away from and can easily tear through a 4* shield, so it's less about taking your lumps for not being careful and more about taking it like a bitch if you don't have a teammate to prematurely free you.
24	* DifficultySpike: The game becomes much more difficult every tier.
25	* EpilepticTrees: Are jellies victims of a horrible plague? All the Earth-shaped ruins and yet no plausible inhabitants...
26	** Perhaps they were built by the Devilites, or whatever the zombies used to be before they died.
27	* EventObscuringCamera: Especially evident during the fight with Lord Vanaduke -- both his strongest minions and many of his attacks have high damage but long start up times before they attack, and if you can't see them then the attack will probably hit you without you having any time to do anything about it. This mainly becomes a problem when enemies approach from the south (bottom) of the screen.
28	* FridgeBrilliance: Aside from the overwhelmingly large amount of Slag Walkers and Trojans, there's a more obvious reason as to why Firestorm Citadel is a great place to grind Heat. The whole place is ''wreathed in flames''.
29	* FridgeLogic: The final mission in which you become a vanguard features several of the most prominent [=NPCs=] all there to congratulate you. Your intelligence provider, the guy who taught you all about the different types of damage and monsters, the Lieutenant who's been commanding the Knights all throughout the story... and also Bosco, the random NPC who was busy working on fixing a mecha-knight. You probably won't think much of it at first but if you take a moment to think about it, why is he there? (The answer, most likely, is because they wanted to show a mecha-knight applauding, but still...)
30	* GoddamnedBats: Which enemies are considered this depends on who you ask. The more common targets of a player's hatred are Gun Puppies, Red Rovers, Wolvers, Gremlins, Tier 2 Retrodes, large groups of Devilites, and the Phantoms found in Graveyard floors.
31	** A swarm of Greavers. They don't do particularly much damage, but they are able to home in on you when they wind up for an attack from almost an entire screen's worth of distance.
32	** Red Rovers are a joke compared to Rocket Puppies, but Red Rovers were much worse than Rocket Puppies back when Fire was horribly broken and they used the bouncing flames they have at T3 in all tiers due to a bug.
33	** Jellies get really annoying in groups. It isn't helped by the fact that they seem to resist flinching the deeper you go, causing mastery of shield canceling to be almost mandatory.
34	** In some of the Danger Missions, [[ActionBomb Bombies]]. They explode when you come near them, they have moderately high health (enough that killing them before they reach you is unlikely), they explode when dealt lethal damage anyway, and they can revive when near Grim Totems or Deadnaughts.
35	** Mortafires and Ghostmane Stalkers in Operation Crimson Hammer, the former because they constantly move around and can only be defeated without the use of fire pots by attacking them from behind, and the latter because they usually travel in groups, have high melee and ranged capability, can take a lot of damage, and can cloak to make a quick escape while also ''placing a deathmark to increase damage you take''.
36	** Ask any Tier 2 Recon in Lockdown about [[SplashDamage Pulsar]] line of handguns... There's much debate whatever it is balanced or not.
37	* GoddamnedBoss: Royal Jelly is pretty easy to take out (especially after they nerfed him), but he can easily turn into an [[RealMoneyTrade energy]] costly nightmare.
38	** The Roarmulus Twins count as well. While they seem to be a straightforwardly easy PuzzleBoss at first, once you factor in the endlessly respawning [[GoddamnedBats Scuttlebots]] and having to coordinate your teammates, the entire thing becomes harder.
39	** Lord Vanaduke. He doesn’t heal, and he only has about 2-3 attacks in his arsenal, mainly having the moveset of a Trojan. However, his primary attack where he slams his mace into the ground causes debris to fall around the arena. The debris doesn’t do anything on his first phase, but from phase 3 onward, the debris sets the floor on fire, and stays on fire unless you extinguish it with Waterballs strewn about the arena. Vanaduke uses his mace attack A LOT, and he can possibly cover his entire arena on fire, making it incredibly hard to navigate around him. Adding onto that, Vanaduke also gets four red orbs that orbit around him in his third phase, and four MORE in his final phase. Touching the orbs will cause damage and has a high chance of setting your knight on Fire, meaning you’ll have to keep your distance from his as the battle goes on. Easier said than done, since Vanaduke also has a tendency to dash up to faraway players to close distance to use his mace attack, and possibly blindsiding other players with his orbs if they don’t see him coming. Vanaduke can also spawn in enemies in later phases, ranging from [[GoddamnedBats Slag Walkers]] to [[EliteMooks Almirian Royal Guards]], leading to players having to take care of them before focusing back on Vanaduke. With all that said, he CAN be easily dealt with with the right weapons (the Shivermist Buster does an excellent job at keeping him frozen in place and the Blitz Needle is all but mandatory for his boss fight for its high DPS and Vanaduke’s weakness to Piercing), but there’s a lot to deal with and he can easily overwhelm unsuspecting players if they’re not prepared.
40	* GoodBadBugs: There's a few, the most controversial being "Looping"- an exploit that lets you repeat levels (though it has since been patched).
41	** Sometimes if a player is KO'd in front of Lord Vanaduke while he's in a corner he'll be incapable of getting out as long as that player remains in front of him.
42	** During the Dark Harvest Halloween event in 2012, the developers tried to prevent players from doing the relevant prestige mission more than once per day, but through joining other parties that had just started the mission they were able to do it repeatedly. Then came the Winterfest event and it appears they gave in and let players do the relevant mission as much as they wanted without any sort of trouble.
43	* IAmNotShazam: A lot of players tend to call the Royal Jelly the "Jelly King," despite there being no in-game evidence of it and its armor set being called anything other than the former.
44	* PlayTheGameSkipTheStory: A view held by some players, though the story is more AllThereInTheManual than ExcusePlot. And even the manual doesn't give away too much, not to mention that the manual happens to be the official wiki that can be modified by ''everyone''.
45	* PopularWithFurries: The furries have come to admire the Gremlins that originate from this game thanks to their designs and lore (whatever lore they have anyways).
46	* ThatOneAchievement: "Dauntless Delver" (go from depth 0-29 without dying). It's made easier if you have a buddy to take the hits for you and if you pick simpler levels, but still requires a considerable chunk of time.
47	** "Master Miner" (deposit 10000 minerals into a gate) also qualified before the system (and achievement) was removed, if only because it was tedious; assuming maximum conditions (4 maximum sized miners on every level, and 4 players to carry them all up) - which, let's face it, isn't going to happen (especially since some levels in missions don't even have any crystals) - it still takes a bare minimum of 625 levels to get. Even highly dedicated players required several months to get Master Miner.
48	* ThatOneAttack: The Roarmulus Twins possess a laser attack in their final phase. Unlike all other attacks in the game, the beam is a constant attack. And it can inflict Shock, a status that removes the player's MercyInvincibility. These two factors combine to create an attack capable of a TotalPartyKill in a split second.
49	** But the real ThatOneAttack is when they both do it at the same time. Practically {{unwinnable}}.
50	* ThatOneLevel.
51	** The Graveyards. Not only are they overrun with zombies, but you also have to fight ghosts of Spiral Knights, that regenerate mere minutes after being defeated and then chase after you again. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And they don't even drop loot]]. But on the other hand, you have a level inhabited with a single type of very slow enemies. Once you can reliably kill [[SuperPersistentPredator Phantoms]], you can clear the level using only one weapon, leaving your second weapon slot free for whatever low-level weapon you want to [[LeakedExperience heat up]]. It's still tedious, though.
52	** The danger rooms (though optional) can count as those as well.
53	** Candlestick Keep also tends to draw a lot of ire. Throughout the level, you have to stay within range of the candles' light, or else you'll be chased by the [[InvincibleMinorMinion Grimalkins]], whose attacks deal considerable damage and ignore your shield. What's more, some of the candles are only temporary, and will have to be relighted with fireballs. Combined with the fact that you'll often be dodging attacks from Howlitzers and Kats, some people choose to just wait for these levels to pass by.
54	** For elemental stratums, enemy types can circulate unpredictably. Those who hate Wolvers, for example, may find themselves forced upon going to a Wolver Den. Some people may prefer to stick with the Graveyards.
55	** The Ironclaw Munitions Factory can be utter hell if you don't know what you're doing. The whole area is basically one long gauntlet of you dodging super powerful missiles and activating many, ''many'' switches, all while [[LightningBruiser Quicksilvers]], [[GodDamnBats Scuttlebots, Retrodes]] and [[BossInMookClothing Mecha Knights]] wail on you. Oh, and due to all the stuff being thrown at you at once, the level is notoriously buggy and laggy. And at the end, you face [[WakeUpCallBoss the Roarmulus Twins]]. Going solo is ''not'' advisable. It's also pretty unfriendly to newbie since usages of switches there require some caution lest they get you killed even faster.
56	* TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
57	** The May 17 update. Hoo boy.
58	** Now we have the Shard Bombs... The developers reasoned that the change was made because they didn't intend to make players use Shard ''Bombs'' for ''sniping'' things like Gun Puppies.
59	** The removal of the Winmillion line's first attack dash to some. Turning them from a sword that let users happily dash at target from yards away without the risk of getting attacked first to more of a backup weapon for bombers, being able to shoot out bullets instead of bringing in a gun with no melee capabilities.
60	** Pretty much everything about the July 30 update outside of battle sprites, ''especially'' things like removing the ability to share health and heat with your friends. It didn't help that Three Rings never really explained that the reason for most of the changes was to starve the users who were using large numbers of alts to make far more money than intended.

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