Line #28 YMMV/ShakugannoShana


1	* BaseBreakingCharacter: [[spoiler:Yuji Sakai after merging with the Snake of the Festival]]. While he has clearly has [[WellIntentionedExtremist well]]-[[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans intentioned]] goals, others consider him to be an incredibly ruthless bastard who doesn't care about anything else outside of his goals.
2	* BrokenBase:
3	** The third and final season has split the fandom between supporting Flame Hazes and Crimson Denizens (and in this case, RootingForTheEmpire is quite understandable) and between whether the season is an interesting storyline with a good ending for the series or a badly written arc with mismanaged characters and whose main conflict feels pointless even in-universe.
4	** Geneon Dub VS Funimation Dub has fans and detractors.
5	* CargoShip: Shana x [[TrademarkFavoriteFood Melon Bread]] has been shipped. Also, Shana has a WhatIsThisThingYouCallLove moment regarding melon bread and Yuji.
6	%%* CreatorsPet: Kazumi Yoshida.
7	* CommonKnowledge: Shana is the prototypical hyper-aggressive, ultra-violent {{Tsundere}} who habitually dominates and abuses her love interest. Except she’s not. While Shana introduced, [[TropeCodifier or at least codified]], a type of {{Tsundere}} that is more hot-tempered and more abrasive to her love interest, and while the hyper-aggressive, ultra-violent {{Tsundere}} can claim a direct line of descent from Shana, she lacks the borderline abusive behavior (at worst striking Yuji all of three times in the first season-- of a three-season show—in moments that are played for laughs), tendency to treat their love interests in a subhuman fashion (Shana’s early dismissal of Yuji as a “thing” is due to the fact that, ordinarily, he would be little more than a non-entity as a Torch), and the tendency to dominate or tyrannize said love interests that they have. Shana actually is closer to the classic {{Tsundere}}, a person with harsh outward personality, the result of a sociability problem, who gradually reveals a softer and loving side. Her CharacterDevelopment is really quite remarkable, even when comparing the cold and hostile Shana at the beginning of Season 1 to prickly but friendly Shana of mid-Season 1, let alone the Shana of Season 3, who can no longer even be considered {{Tsundere}}.
8	* DesignatedHero: To some people, [[spoiler:the Snake of the Festival and/or Snake Yuji]] is a rare antagonist example- he is clearly intended to be a HeroAntagonist who has the noble goal of [[spoiler:wanting to create a world where Flame Haze, Crimson Denizens, and Humans can life in harmony]]. But the things he does in pursuit of this goal are rather make some people view [[spoiler:him [[TheBadGuyWins winning]] and reconciling with Shana]] as a prime example of an EasilyForgiven KarmaHoudini.
9	* DieForOurShip: Kazumi, especially after [[spoiler:Pheles gave her a Treasure Tool which can summon Pheles, but would take Kazumi's life as a price]].
10	* EnsembleDarkhorse:
11	** Sabrac is also one of the more popular antagonists despite not having been introduced until the end of season 2. He is mostly remembered by viewers for his memorable battle, and many can back him up as the most badass antagonist in the series. There's also the fact that, unlike other villains, he had a backstory to his motivations and even a rivalry with one of the main characters.
12	** Decarabia, one of the minor villains introduced in season 3, got a lot of attention. Many were amused by his strange character design and his tendency to constantly appear at the most random of times.
13	* EvilIsCool: [[spoiler:Yuji as Snake of the Festival]] definitely fits the bill; his fans often nickname him as Darth Vader [[spoiler:Yuji]], or just Darth [[spoiler:Yuji]] for short.
14	%%* FandomEnragingMisconception: [[https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=7_mJBJWJJUk It seems the correct form of Shana's catchphrase is "Urusai! Urusai! Urusai!!!"]]
15	* FriendlyFandoms:
16	** With ''Literature/ACertainMagicalIndex''. Both are light novels published by Dengeki-Bunko that got published around the same time and have the similar concept of magic in a modern day setting, alongside a male protagonist who is partnered with a hot-headed female lead. It also helps that the anime for ''Index'' aired at the height of ''Shakugan no Shana's'' popularity and even featured many common cast members (as well as singer Music/MamiKawada, who performed openings and endings for both).
17	** Also with ''Literature/TheFamiliarOfZero'', ''Manga/HayateTheCombatButler'', and ''Literature/{{Toradora}}'', since their female leads[[note]]Louise, Nagi, and Taiga respectively[[/note]] are {{Expies}} of Shana and are even voiced by Creator/RieKugimiya. Together, they're collectively known as "The Four Tsundere Wonders" by many fans and are often featured in numerous crossover fan art and fan fiction. Even the anime industry in Japan has acknowledged this friendship and used the opportunity to promote merchandise based on the characters being together.
18	* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: China loves ''Shakugan no Shana''. Especially ''Creator/{{mihoyo}}'', which eventually managed to get most the cast of voice actors and actresses for their games.
19	* [[HoYay Les Yay]]: Wilhelmina and Pheles are really good friends, but the way Wilhelmina acts when they meet is just a trace beyond that (and Wilhelmina [[TheStoic doesn't emote much towards anyone]]).
20	* MagnificentBastard:
21	** Bel Peol, known as the "Arbiter of Reverse Reasoning" and "TheStrategist", lead Bel Masque in the first two seasons. In the past, Bel Peol sacrificed her right eye as part of a plan to retrieve her master's body; later convincing a Denizen into going for a dangerous mission, resulting in his death for her cause. Trying to destroy Misaki City, Bel Peol nearly succeeds in all her attempts thanks to her tactical brilliance and pushes the heroes to their limits. Joining her master, the Snake of the Festival upon his revival, Bel Peol acts as his [[TheDragon Dragon]] and together they usher in the creation of Xanadu, a paradise for Denizens and humans alike, fighting fiercely for it. A ruthless, goal-driven woman, Bel Peol nevertheless showed fondness to her underlings and exceedingly intelligence thinking in the field of battle, proving herself a worthy leader of Bel Masque.
22	** The aforementioned Snake of the Festival or "The God of Creation", is the original leader of Bel Masque. [[spoiler:Summoned in ancient times by the Denizens of the past, the Snake tried to create a paradise for them before being sealed in the Abyss. In present convincing Protagonist Yuji Sakai to become his vessel, the Snake retakes leadership of Bel Masque, giving a speech so powerful it gains him the complete loyalty of all the present Denizens. Leading the Denizens in the devastating Second Great War, the Snake oversees the brutal combat to have his body recovered from the Abyss. Returning to Misaki City to create Xanadu, the Snake uses his own body and a member of the Trinity as sacrifices to create his new world. Realizing the Denizen's wish for peaceful coexistence, the Snake completes his mission despite massive opposition and returns to sleep, wishing his vessel success for the future.]]
23	* MemeticMutation:
24	** URUSAI! URUSAI! URUSAI!
25	*** URUCHAI! URUCHAI! URUCHAI!
26	** OH GOD SHANA IS HOT
27	** [[VerbalTic de arimasu~]]
28	* MoralEventHorizon: To several people, [[spoiler:Snake Yuji]] driving Margery Daw towards the DespairEventHorizon, as well as the infamous scene between him and Shana during her captivity in the Palace of Stars, makes him truly a villain instead of a HeroAntagonist who can't possibly redeem himself like [[MustMakeAmends he hopes to do in the ending]].
29	* NeverLiveItDown: [[spoiler:Yuji Saki]] is probably going to be forever remembered since Season 3 as 'that would-be rapist world destroyer', no matter what positive qualities he has.
30	* OlderThanTheyThink: A non-nonsense girl with black long hair, a bladed weapon, a black cloak and a powerful, deep-voiced demon partner comes to this world in order to hunt down other demons that feed on humans, disguising herself as an aloof highschool student in order to be near her target. She is secretly in love with another OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent who has a more social best friend and a sweet female classmate with short, brown hair who eventually bonds with the main girl as well, and one of their first adventures throws the guy and said classmate into the loop. Finally, among the enemies there is a sultry, scheming red-haired villainess that leads several of the demons. Are we talking about ''Shakugan no Shana'' or the 1989 manga-turned-OVA ''Manga/MakaryuudoDemonHunter'', protagonized by the eponymous hunter Yama? With such a question, the possibility that Yashichiro Takahashi was familiar with that series when he started writing ''Shana'' is certainly hard to dismiss.
31	* OnceOriginalNowCommon: In the mid and late 2000's, this was [[Manga/DeathNote one]] [[Franchise/CodeGeass of]] [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann many]] [[Literature/HaruhiSuzumiya anime]] that achieved widespread popularity. Newer fans who try to watch this show don't get what all the buzz was about, as a lot of the tropes that this show popularized are now in tons of anime, causing new viewers to find nothing special about this show. It is made even more apparent by the fact that one of its contemporaries, ''Literature/{{Toradora}}'', still enjoys widespread popularity and acclaim to this day, while Shana herself is no longer the poster girl for the {{Tsundere}} trope as she used to be.
32	* ParanoiaFuel: At any time in the past, you may have been killed, eaten, and replaced with a copy ''without you even realizing it''. Eventually, that copy can run out of power...
33	* QuestionableCasting: A lot of fans (especially those who were familiar with [[Creator/BradSwaile season 1]]'s dub) didn't like Creator/GregAyres' performance as Keisaku Sato in [[TheOtherDarrin Funimation's cast]].
34	* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Kazumi was originally TheScrappy not only because she acts like a typical {{Shoujo}} manga protagonist, but also because she's a combined example of DieForOurShip, RealWomenDontWearDresses and SpotlightStealingSquad. She finally did some justice for herself in ''Final'', however, mainly due to her actions during the closing stages of the ForeverWar. [[spoiler:The most notable example is her willingness to ''die'' while summoning Pheles by using Giralda.]]
35	* RootingForTheEmpire:
36	** One interpretation is that the Crimson Denizens (Guze no Tomogara) are in desperate need of resources and thus feeding on humans is their only option, and some Flame Haze are [[KnightTemplar overzealous]]. The former is backed up by the idea the Bal Masque was founded by a god, thus they essentially should have the same authority as Flame Haze (though they are not contracted with Crimson Lords). The latter is partially backed up by the fact that Margery Daw was originally shown as being somewhat of a BloodKnight and cared for nothing but {{Revenge}}, thus indicating that there are more violent and less honorable Flame Hazes.
37	** This became a more viable option in the later light novels (and the third season) when it is revealed Bal Masqué's plan, as well as [[spoiler: their new leader Yuji's]], is to create a utopia called Xanadu where Crimson Denizens will not need to devour humans to sustain their existence, and can even coexist peacefully with them. [[spoiler: Considering how the series [[TheExtremistWasRight ends]], The Empire [[TheBadGuyWins wins]].]]
38	* SeasonalRot: For a lot of viewers the first season was well-received and thought of as a great start to the franchise. However, many felt that as the show went on it got progressively worse. Season 2 was criticized for beginning on a {{filler}} arc that lasted half the season, and not doing much to differentiate itself from season 1. It was the third season where many felt that ''Shakugan no Shana'' began to lose its touch. Many criticisms were aimed at [[spoiler:Yuji [[FaceHeelTurn fusing with]] the [[BigBad Snake of the Festival]] and becoming a much less likable character]], the introduction of many new characters that had no development and added nothing to the show with some [[spoiler:dying in their first fight scenes]], and the ending that [[spoiler:completely negates any consequences and has the two sides make up while Snake Yuji [[TheBadGuyWins wins]] and pulls a KarmaHoudini]]. Not helping matters for English dub fans is the ChannelHop from Creator/{{Geneon}} to Creator/{{Funimation}} causing [[TheOtherDarrin everyone from season one being replaced]], and many consider the Funimation cast to be [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks inferior to the cast Geneon had]].
39	* {{Squick}}: The Aizens, Tiriel and Sorath, [[BrotherSisterIncest make out with each other]]. In public. A lot. Even Shana, who'd only learned about the concept of kissing about a day ago, was visibly disgusted by it.
40	* TheyChangedItNowItSucks [[spoiler:Yuji Sakai]]'s DarkerAndEdgier AntiHero tendencies over the course of season 3 has left many fans grumbling about the drastic change in personality.
41	** The problem stems a lot from the anime adaptation. [[spoiler:Yuji expresses despair over the endless, ultimately nihilistic Flame Haze-Denizen struggle very early in the light novels, as well as a growing determination to do whatever it takes to end it. The Snake of the Festival, who shows up out of nowhere with no foreshadowing or buildup at the beginning of ''Shakugan no Shana Final'', approaches Yuji from within the Midnight Lost Child [[WeCanRuleTogether and tempts him with promises of ending the eternal conflict]]. He also starts to exhibit a much more aggressive personality far sooner as well. For example, in the anime, when Wilhelmina attempts to kill him to prevent the Midnight Lost Child from falling into Bal Masqué's hands, Yuji does little to fight back. In the light novels, after Shana prevents Wilhelmina from harming him, Yuji takes the opportunity to ''try to kill Wilhelmina'', and comes close to doing so. In short, Yuji's FaceHeelTurn, for a given value of heel, is not the abrupt switch the anime made it out to be, but a well-telegraphed and logical conclusion to his character growth.]]
42	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Yuji coming to terms with his upcoming CessationOfExistence with the knowledge that at least he won't be ''completely'' forgotten when he disappears could've made for an interesting story (even if the story had to go searching for a new male lead after that). Instead, Yuji turned out to be a LivingMacGuffin that regularly restores his own Power of Existence.
43	* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: One of J.C. Staff's best animated adaptations, and the third season [[SerialEscalation simply escalates from there]], culminating in the glorious AnimationBump that comes with [[spoiler:the creation of Xanadu]].
44	* {{Wangst}}: At times it seems like the series would be half as long if Shana and Kazumi wouldn't take so much time with their angsty internal monologues over Yuji, although Yuji himself is no stranger; he plays this trope at the end of the second season!

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