| 1 | * For YMMV items related to the original 1985 game, go [[YMMV/SuperMarioBros1 here]]. |
| 2 | * For YMMV items related to the cartoons by Creator/DiCEntertainment, go [[YMMV/SuperMarioBrosDiC here]]. |
| 3 | * For YMMV items related to the 1993 live-action film, go [[YMMV/SuperMarioBros1993 here]]. |
| 4 | * For YMMV items related to the 2023 animated film, go [[YMMV/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie here]]. |
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| 6 | [[index]] |
| 7 | !!Franchise-Wide Subpages: |
| 8 | * [[BaseBreakingCharacter/SuperMarioBros Base-Breaking Character]] |
| 9 | * [[CommonKnowledge/SuperMarioBros Common Knowledge]] |
| 10 | * [[EnsembleDarkHorse/SuperMarioBros Ensemble Dark Horse]] |
| 11 | * [[Fanon/SuperMarioBros Fanon]] |
| 12 | * [[GameBreaker/SuperMarioBros Game Breaker]] |
| 13 | * [[MagnificentBastard/SuperMarioBros Magnificent Bastard]] |
| 14 | * [[Memes/SuperMarioBros Memes]] |
| 15 | * [[TheScrappy/SuperMarioBros The Scrappy]] |
| 16 | * [[ScrappyMechanic/SuperMarioBros Scrappy Mechanic]] |
| 17 | * [[ThatOneBoss/SuperMarioBros That One Boss]] |
| 18 | * [[ThatOneLevel/SuperMarioBros That One Level]] |
| 19 | [[/index]] |
| 20 | !!YMMV items that apply to the franchise as a whole: |
| 21 | [[foldercontrol]] |
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| 23 | [[folder:A-G]] |
| 24 | * AccidentalInnuendo: |
| 25 | ** The Mario Bros. getting larger from eating mushrooms and the general strangeness of the setting has many fans citing it as a metaphor for drugs, and is often portrayed in fanwork as such, although [[PlayedForLaughs for laughs.]] |
| 26 | ** There exists a chess board with ''Mario'' characters, with Mario's Heroes facing off against Bowser's Troop. It features [[IncestYayShipping Luigi as Mario's Queen, and Bowser Jr. as Bowser's Queen]]. [[QuestionableCasting Why they didn't get, say, Peach to be Mario's Queen is anyone's guess]], though it's likely that they wanted to use only ''Mario'' characters that would be as recognizable as possible and they only had so many recognizable ones to fit in all of the spaces. |
| 27 | * {{Adorkable}}: |
| 28 | ** Being shy, clumsy and friendly is a large part of Luigi's charm. |
| 29 | ** In spite of his villainy, Bowser Jr.'s a chubby little cutie and he's aware of this, often wearing a bib-like bandana with fangs drawn on to make himself look more fierce to minion and enemy alike. |
| 30 | * AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: It's a series that doesn't usually develop a detailed story or detailed characters, so it's probably ''because'' of this that there is a lot of room for interpretation: |
| 31 | ** Mario himself: |
| 32 | *** There are several fans that tend to think that Mario's main motivation for going out on his many journeys is mostly not for Peach, [[IWasToldThereWouldBeCake but for the cake he was told that he'd be given]]. (Overlaps with CommonKnowledge, as that only happens in ''VideoGame/SuperMario64''.) |
| 33 | *** Mario is a ruthless OneManArmy killing anything in his path, not caring if his foes ''want'' to hurt him or not, captures countless lands, and basically waged a war against a rivaling kingdom with many casualties on their side, just to rescue a princess and/or get cake. |
| 34 | *** Some argue that Mario is genuinely good, but a HeroicComedicSociopath. Note that he's always so cheerful and always letting out "whoops" of joy despite what's at stake. It's not that he doesn't want to save Peach, but he has too much fun basically slaughtering the equivalent to entire armies. Sometimes this extends to him allowing or even encouraging Bowser to kidnap the princess so he has an opportunity to go on yet another adventure. This is sometimes taken in a more sympathetic light, given that if Mario is motivated by the excitement and thrill of the chase, then all the time he spends go-karting, planning parties, and playing sports is wasted when he could be having a real adventure. Also, since Mario often displays MediumAwareness ("Thank you so much for playing my game!"), the aforementioned could be for the player's benefit rather than a selfish indulgeance. |
| 35 | *** A lot of fan parodies tend to treat Mario like a complete numbskull (sometimes combined with the aforementioned HeroicComedicSociopath take), with some going so far as to theorize this is due to one too many mushrooms consumed. |
| 36 | ** The paradigm of Peach, Bowser, and the kidnappings is itself a food for thought (with ideas ranging from Bowser's feelings being ''mutual'', Peach having a submissive fantasy and ''enjoying'' being kidnapped, or even that it's all a money-making gambit since Mario profits from the journey). |
| 37 | *** Website/{{Cracked}} had a lot of fun with the interpretation that Bowser is actually in love with Peach but bad at expressing it; Peach has conflicting feelings and notably never denies being the ''mother'' of Bowser Jr. when Bowser Jr. claims she is. Bowser is also a WellIntentionedExtremist, who captures the Yoshis because they're an ecological menace (they eat ''anything''), until he finds time to find a permanent solution to the crisis, as he ''captures'' them rather than killing them. He may also be the only person capable of ruling the land, as he has time to build, maintain and run seven castles simultaneously, manages to conquer and subdivide the lands into more effective zones, ''and'' find time to kidnap Peach. He essentially keeps trying to perform a BenevolentAlienInvasion but it keeps getting screwed up by Mario...by the way, where ''was'' he while Bowser was doing this anyway? |
| 38 | *** [[http://www.gamesradar.com/classicradar-the-sexual-politics-of-the-mushroom-kingdom/ This old GamesRadar article]] from 2008 takes it further by painting Peach as [[AttentionWhore "a self-serving harlot with the morals of an alley cat on heat and no higher priority in life than the massaging of her own needy ego."]] Peach-haters will have a blast reading this. |
| 39 | *** WebVideo/GameTheory got in this [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_xbSMK390s by posting this popular (and rather disturbing) video about Peach's... issues.]] |
| 40 | *** A ''WebAnimation/HowItShouldHaveEnded'' video portrays Bowser as attempting to make peace treaties with Princess Peach due to Mario always killing his people. |
| 41 | *** Much like the HeroicComedicSociopath take on Mario, some fans think that Bowser purposely lets Mario win because he's not really evil. He just kidnaps Peach for fun and just wants to have a friendly-fierce rivalry with Mario before letting him take the advantage because he enjoys it, and maybe he just doesn't know a more proper way to ask Mario and co. to have fun with him. And then there's the fact that he allows Mario to throw him in lava because he doesn't really want any harm done to Mario or his friends, he just wants to lure them into his castle so he can play with them in a friendly rivalry. Bowser likes kidnapping princesses and make Mario (and Luigi) go after him because it's all a game to him. |
| 42 | *** One of the most complex interpretations is one centered around romance. Essentially, some feel that Peach and Bowser are actually a couple, but have to keep it on the down low for the sake of their kingdoms, and the kidnappings are staged so they can get some private time together. As for Mario's rescues, he, as well as Luigi, possibly, is in the loop about it, and goes on these adventures as a way to keep up TheMasquerade, essentially playing as both party's wingman to make both of them happy, and to keep the ruse up without the Mushroom Kingdom destabilizing due to panic. Presumably, Bowser's forces are in on it as well, and they, and Mario, work together to delay Mario's rescue for as long as possible, justifying the enemy placements and boss battles. |
| 43 | *** Is Bowser an idiotic overly macho king, or ObfuscatingStupidity on a political mastermind? I.e., his kingdom is all lava and igneous rocks. Peach's isn't. And the best way to gain political power in a monarchy is to marry into it. Cracked [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18863_5-reasons-bowser-most-successful-video-game-character.html speculated]] that he was actually the most successful video game villain of all time given how many times Mario has died over the years, his family situation, being invited to play sports and parties like nothing ever happened, and the sheer amount of power and resources he possesses. |
| 44 | ** Regarding the Toads: |
| 45 | *** Is there a specific character named Toad, or is it a different Toad in the role every time? Although Nintendo usually describes Toad as a specific character within the species, actually identifying which one is ''the'' Toad is an exercise in futility.[[note]]e.g. in ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'', you can play as Toad. This could be ''the'' Toad, except it's the exact same design as the character in ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii'' identified as "Blue Toad", whereas the character identified as "Toad" in almost all other instances is red...[[/note]] Because of this, a popular {{fanon}} is that it's a different character depending on the game. |
| 46 | %%*** Toadette is not one of the few female presenting Toads; she is just more feminine than others and stands out amongst her androgynous peers. {What does this mean?} |
| 47 | *** Toadette is a playable character in ''New Super Mario Bros U. Deluxe'' where she can get a power-up known as the Super Crown, which lets her transform into a Princess Peach-like form known as "Peachette". The mere existence of this character has baffled the Mario fandom. |
| 48 | *** Toadsworth not appearing in a game since ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiDreamTeam'' has lead fans to the conclusion that he passed away from old age. |
| 49 | ** Daisy seems to come in second to Peach all the time, but that ''might'' be because she's a far more competent ruler than Peach is. Sarasaland has only faced a serious invasion ''once'' (compared to the Mushroom Kingdom, where it happens with disturbing frequency) and in games where she's playable, Daisy is often the toughest of the girls. ''Mario Party 3'' lends weight to this theory, as its Story Mode shows Daisy sending Bowser ''flying'' with one slap, and her justification being simply "What? He was in my way!" |
| 50 | ** [[https://youtu.be/CQnyF5l68i8 Professor E. Gadd]] gets this thanks to Bowser Jr. using his Paintbrush in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine''. AbsentMindedProfessor who gets his stuff stolen fairly often, [[TheChessmaster Chessmaster]] arms dealer using ObfuscatingStupidity to [[PlayingBothSides Play Both Sides]], or an [[EvilOldFolks evil old folk]] who enjoys chaos [[ForTheEvulz for the sake of it]]? |
| 51 | ** Waluigi. He was initially added to the cast because Wario needed a doubles partner for ''VideoGame/MarioTennis'', but he creates plenty of discussion, both serious and [[MemeticMutation not so serious]]. His mere presence has some weird implications regarding Mario, Luigi and Wario: Mario is the original, Luigi is a reflection of Mario (somewhat similar, but [[{{Foil}} different in certain ways]]), Wario is also a reflection (Wario is Mario's EvilCounterpart). Waluigi is a reflection of a reflection. |
| 52 | ** Rosalina is officially depicted as a mysterious woman with some kind of power over the very cosmos. Much like other characters, her exact role isn't given too much detail (apart from an unlockable backstory in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' that first introduced her, and even that seems to be disregarded sometimes). That hasn't stopped fans from frequently interpreting her to be some sort of goddess (or if you go by the Judeo-Christian line of thought, The Virgin Mary). |
| 53 | ** Whether Bowser Jr. is a [[ChildProdigy mechanical genius that builds his own machines]] or simply a [[SpoiledBrat spoiled rich kid who gets his father to buy them for him]]. Nothing in the main series suggests one possibility is any more likely than the other, and the spin-offs give conflicting opinions: in ''Fortune Street'', it's implied that Junior at the very least ''designs'' some of his own mechs, while in ''Super Smash Bros.'' it's implied that the Junior Clown Car, at least, was indeed a gift from his father. In ''VideoGame/MarioPlusRabbidsKingdomBattle'', the Mecha Jr. boss is described as "Jr's. Fave B-Day Gift!" through BossSubtitles, but it's possible Jr. makes most himself and got the Mecha as a special present. It's also unclear whether he does any repairs on his machines himself — ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii'' seems to hint that he is indeed capable of doing his own patch-work repairs, while ''Mario & Luigi: Dream Team'' hints that he has a group of Monty Moles responsible for repairing the Junior Clown Car, only for ''VideoGame/BowserJrsJourney'' to imply that he's also capable of modifying his machines himself [[note]]as he manages to turn Iggy's faceless Clown Car into a Junior Clown Car[[/note]]. |
| 54 | * AnimationAgeGhetto: |
| 55 | ** The series suffers from this due to its cartoony, family-friendly nature -- especially when compared to other video game series that are popular, but have higher content ratings suited to more adult audiences, as well as its own "edgier" and more "realistic" sibling ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda''. The creators in fact actively [[DefiedTrope defy this trope,]] as the games are for all ages much like Creator/{{Pixar}} movies. [[http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/111028qa/03.html According to the late Satoru Iwata]], the perception of ''Mario'' as a "childish" franchise was a problem that Nintendo wasn't too pleased about, and they actively worked on having the franchise appeal to all age groups. Similarly, Miyamoto has repeatedly stressed how the series' creators tend to fall victim to this trope and design the all-ages ''Mario'' games as if they were specifically for children just because they're played by kids. For example, Creator/KojiKondo [[https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Iwata-Asks/Iwata-Asks-Super-Mario-Galaxy/Volume-3-The-Sound-Team/2-A-Sound-That-Defines-Mario/2-A-Sound-That-Defines-Mario-205066.html famously rejected]] composed music for ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' that was unintentionally designed to appeal to children and was written based on the presumption of Mario being a KidAppealCharacter. Kondo refuted that "Mario is cool", that he never thought of him as cute, and that Mario's games are "cool adventure games" at their heart. |
| 56 | ** If a ''Mario'' game gets mixed or lukewarm reception, fans tend to accuse it of pandering to young children at the expense of older fans. Whether or not these claims are true, such criticisms usually arise from [[ItsEasySoItSucks overly easy gameplay]], a strong SweetnessAversion, or general shallowness. This sentiment was very prominent during the [=3DS/Wii U=] era, with frequent accusations of the series being "dumbed down" to appeal to the most casual fans (a group that child ''Mario'' fans are frequently lumped into). The ''New Super Mario Bros.'' subseries tries to balance the needs of different players, with the Super Guide feature for children and less experienced players, and more challenging secret levels for veterans. |
| 57 | * AmericansHateTingle: In post-Soviet states, minus the Baltics and Russia, Mario games are much less popular than franchises such as ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'', ''VideoGame/CrashBandicoot'', ''Franchise/MegaMan'', and numerous [[Creator/SonyInteractiveEntertainment Sony]] games. This is because, before 2010, Nintendo didn't have an official presence there, and the NES was represented as Famiclones with a gray elephant as its mascot. ''Mario'' games were placed in infamous multi-game cartridges, and children preferred action games from Capcom, Konami, Tecmo, and other third-party companies. The SNES and Game Boy failed tremendously, despite loud marketing campaigns. In following years, [[MediaNotes/PCVsConsole PCs]] dominated the gaming industry; thus post-Soviet children of the 90s and 2000s preferred DarkerAndEdgier games and Disney-based games, due to their availability on [[MediaNotes/PCVsConsole PCs]]. |
| 58 | * ArchivePanic: This is a series that has been going strong since the early to mid-1980s, has spawned numerous main series games, and so many spinoffs and cameo appearances that it reaches ''triple digit territory''. And that's not even counting the substantial amount of tie-in material, such as many comic book appearances, several OVA, a long-running manga, a live action movie, one Ruby-Spears cartoon adaptation, and ''three'' [=DiC=] cartoon series. To say the least, trying to even ''collect'' all of the series, much less sit through all of it, is an exercise in futility. |
| 59 | * AwesomeEgo: Bowser is boastful and arrogant despite his repeated defeats from Mario. His [[{{Fan}} fans]] however, agree he lives up to that, and when he doesn't fight Mario, he usually does. |
| 60 | * BizarroEpisode: The US ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2'' (known as "Super Mario USA" in Japan) has little to do with the rest of the main platformer series, and is revealed to be [[ItWasAllJustADream a dream]] in the end.[[note]]Its semi-sequel ''VideoGame/BSSuperMarioUSA'' would {{Retcon}} this slightly and present Subcon as RealAfterAll. It should also be noted that the ''real'' sequel, ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosTheLostLevels'', is explicitly noted by the developers as taking place in a ParallelUniverse.[[/note]] Although the game has influenced the franchise in its own way (introducing staple characters like Shy Guys and Birdo, and featuring the dichotomy of "Mario's balanced, Luigi jumps high, Peach can float, Toad is fast"), that it's a {{Dolled Up|Installment}} ''VideoGame/DokiDokiPanic'' and incorporates many of its non-''Mario'' influences makes it quite the oddball in the franchise. |
| 61 | * BreatherBoss: Has had a few in some games, such as The Big Bully in ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'' and Topmaniac and the Undergrunt Gunner in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy''. |
| 62 | * BrokenBase: Plenty to go around here: |
| 63 | ** Which ''Mario'' games are better: the 2D platformers or the 3D platformers? Is ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'' or ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' the best 2D ''Mario''? Do the ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' games honor the original games' legacy or are they awful cash-in games that are barely any different from each other? There are also other issues such as if you prefer the American or Japanese version of ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2'' and both camps have their reasons why. |
| 64 | ** Which is the better voice for Mario and Luigi, Charles Martinet's work as the bros ever since ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'', or Captain Lou Albano and Danny Wells from WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosSuperShow? [[TakeAThirdOption Or should Nintendo hire a new voice actor?]] |
| 65 | ** NOA's old storyline about the ''Mario'' series such as how Mario & Luigi are plumbers from Brooklyn who went to the Mushroom Kingdom via a Magic Pipe and that the Koopalings are Bowser's children. Plenty of these aspects were either toned down or retconned in which certain older fans have complained about this while younger fans either accepted it as Canon and/or mention that a lot of the things we heard about were just mistranslations and/or never brought up within the games themselves. But then again the series' storyline has been a somewhat divisive issue with fans in general. |
| 66 | ** The topic how Rosalina should ''sound'' is a hot-topic amongst fans. She originally had an [[PowerEchoes echo]] to her voice but starting with the Wii U/3DS games that was removed. Many enjoy the echo because it differentiates her from other characters and makes her seem less mortal, however others either don't care or dislike it, There's also differing opinions about what pitch her voice should be, anything from low and deadpan to high like Peach's. |
| 67 | ** Whether the games should have full voice acting (as in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine'') or not depends on the fan and is often debated. |
| 68 | ** Was ''VideoGame/SuperPaperMario'' and/or ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'' good changes to the series or should the series go back to being RPG games? This point has made ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash'' a very contested game just by its first trailer alone. |
| 69 | ** Fans debate about whether the ''Mario'' franchise has "lost its magic" after a certain point, with the games becoming more derivative and with less heart and personality put into them. A frequent claim is that this happened after ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'': its [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2 direct sequel]] is agreed to be more formulaic with more of an ExcusePlot, the "[[ItsTheSameNowItSucks samey]]" ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' sequels began to set in, and the other 3D platformers and spinoffs became more derivative as well (most notoriously ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar''). However, the franchise is still going strong, and some fans argue that it's still capable of putting out original, memorable titles such as ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioMaker''. With the release and widespread praise of ''VideoGame/MarioPlusRabbidsKingdomBattle'' and especially ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey'', these arguments were put to rest and most fans attest that ''Mario'' can always be great when it needs to be. And for any few fans who ''still'' believed it wasn't quite the same anymore, those fears were put to rest with the announcements of a 2D Mario with originality, ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosWonder'', and remakes of ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG'' and ''VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor''. |
| 70 | ** The premiere of ''Captain Toad'' has prompted a ''lot'' of argument about how he relates to the original Toad and the leader of the Toad Brigade (the original form of Captain Toad from ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'', who was at the time identified by the Prima guides and a Nintendo-licensed trading card game as ''the'' Toad). This has further prompted argument about whether there IS a primary Toad, or if every instance of a playable or unique Toad is in fact just a randomly selected member of the race who happens to be one of Peach's Mushroom Retainers (of which there are as many as ''46'', according to the scrupulous count in ''The Lost Levels''). |
| 71 | ** The idea of the characters as actors, based on comments made by Miyamoto likening the cast to old cartoon characters, or a troupe of actors, [[UniversalAdaptorCast able to fit multiple roles]]. Some people love the idea and treat it as if [[{{Fanon}} it's the truth]], while others dislike the idea and claim that it devalues Mario's adventures. When the theory was confirmed to be true for ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'' (but ''only'' for that game so far, by way of the game being a stage play), fans cried out "IKnewIt" and "childhood ruined" in roughly equal numbers. |
| 72 | ** People are either excited about, disappointed in or bewildered by ''VideoGame/MarioPlusRabbidsKingdomBattle''. |
| 73 | ** Mario and Luigi's canon age of 24-26. Some people appreciate this and see the Bros. as an AudienceSurrogate for college-aged fans, while others dislike it due to its seeming implausibility and the fact that Mario and Luigi are based on a stereotype (Italian-American plumbers) that skews middle-aged. Some people point to RealityIsUnrealistic, as there ''are'' many men in their twenties in RealLife who have similar builds and facial hair to the Bros. |
| 74 | ** Creator/CharlesMartinet's voice performance as Mario is just as divisive as it is iconic. Many fans adore his lively and energetic performance and view him as ''the'' voice for Mario, while others (particularly older fans) found his performance to be too grating and obnoxious when compared to performances by previous voice actors (particularly the warm Brooklyn accented-performance given by the late Wrestling/CaptainLouAlbano). This is mostly limited to his performance as Mario, as his performance as Luigi, Wario, and Waluigi are nowhere near as divisive. |
| 75 | * CantUnHearIt: Despite the competition some of them face from some older fans of the cartoons, all of the voices get this, but Mario's voice by Charles Martinet ''especially'' qualifies, considering most parodies of the series base their Mario voices on his own. |
| 76 | * CharacterPerceptionEvolution: |
| 77 | ** The Koopalings were seen for a long time as a forgotten highlight of the franchise's early days, with their presence adding more to the games' lore and their boss fights in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' being considered fun and memorable. Their one-off return in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'' was widely praised, as was their role as the main villains in ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii''. However, as the Koopalings continued to appear as recurring characters, their perception became increasingly tepid, being associated more with Nintendo's divisive attempts at concretely branding the ''Mario'' franchise in the 2010s and 2020s. Nowadays, the Koopalings are [[BaseBreakingCharacter Base-Breaking Characters]] among fans, with their absence from ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey'' being regarded as helping the game stand out for the better. |
| 78 | ** Partially overlapping with RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap is the fandom's shift of opinion towards Bowser Jr. When he first appeared in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine'' he was disliked for being a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute for the Koopalings with [[GenerationXerox a design identical]] to [[VideoGame/YoshisIsland Baby Bowser]]. As time went on, he gained fans after later games fleshed out his character and [[DivergentCharacterEvolution made him more distinct]] from the Koopalings. With the Koopalings' return and their subsequent increase in divisiveness, Bowser Jr's initial appearances were re-evaluted in a more positive light, given how he filled the OverlordJr role to Bowser (which was a major part of the Koopalings' initial rise to fame) in the games without completely dominating the boss roster on account of being an individual as opposed to a group of seven. And the [[VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine few]] [[VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros1 times]] he was frequently used have an EarlyInstallmentWeirdness novelty to them. While [[BaseBreakingCharacter Bowser Jr. is by no means universally beloved]], it's still a far cry from the initial disdain towards him. |
| 79 | ** Birdo didn't have much of a reputation to speak of, being a character from ''VideoGame/DokiDokiPanic'' who got carried over to ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2'' and scarcely appeared outside of the occasional spinoff spot or cameo. However, as the internet made it easier for fans to congregate and access information about the ''Mario'' games, people rediscovered a portion of the ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' manual that stated that "he thinks he is a girl [and would] prefer to be called Birdetta." As the {{LGBT fanbase}}s surrounding Nintendo grew in prominence, Birdo became increasingly adopted as a trans icon, with many reclaiming and repurposing her manual description by spinning it in a more positive direction (if only because LGBT representation in Nintendo games is notoriously low). |
| 80 | ** Waluigi was originally seen as TheScrappy of the spinoff games for a long time, having been introduced in the first ''VideoGame/MarioTennis'' game solely to give Wario a doubles partner. His lack of any prior established presence in the franchise and his gimmick of simply being a Wario-themed equivalent of Luigi led fans to see him as unnecessary and present at the expense of other preexisting ''VideoGame/{{Wario}}'' characters. However, the fan webcomic ''Webcomic/BrawlInTheFamily'' did much to change Waluigi's public image, depicting him as a manic {{cloudcuckoolander}} aware of his own lack of relevance compared to other Nintendo figures. The comic's portrayal of Waluigi singlehandedly granted him a large cult following, leading to many fans clamoring for him to get ADayInTheLimelight through a proper game and/or a playable appearance in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros''. The popularity of his tracks in ''VideoGame/MarioKart'' (namely Waluigi Stadium and Waluigi Pinball) also helped, and their inclusion in the [[ExpansionPack Booster Course Pass]] of ''VideoGame/MarioKart8 Deluxe'' was very celebrated by fans. |
| 81 | ** Initially debuting in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioLand'' and appearing in various spinoffs as a counterpart for Princess Peach, Princess Daisy's reputation was unremarkable for a long time. However, her image would crater in the mid and late 2000s thanks to a mix of her appearance in ''VideoGame/MarioKartDoubleDash'' (where her voice acting was considered grating and annoying, especially her infamous "Hi, I'm Daisy!", [[NeverLiveItDown which continues to haunt her to this day despite her not having said the line ever since]]) and her overshadowing by other fan-favorites, most noticeably Rosalina. However, in the late 2010s, she would gain an increasingly strong cult following thanks to her characterization as more assertive and tomboyish than [[DamselInDistress Peach]] (who herself was caught up in larger discourse over female representation in gaming), her MemeticLoser image endearing her to fans as an underdog, and her playable spots in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRun'' and ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate''. Nowadays, while Daisy's reputation still isn't stellar, the biggest point against her is usually [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter that she could be used more effectively]], with her inclusion as a playable character in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosWonder'' being recieved positively. |
| 82 | * CompleteMonster: ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'', while usually a lighthearted franchise, manages to have several [[VileVillainSaccharineShow shockingly dark villains]]: |
| 83 | ** ''VideoGame/LuigisMansion'': [[TheGhostKing King Boo]], after his defeat by Luigi in the [[VideoGame/LuigisMansion1 first game]], throws away any redeeming qualities upon his return in ''[[VideoGame/LuigisMansionDarkMoon Dark Moon]]''. Shattering the Dark Moon, he brainwashes every ghost in Evershade Valley and uses them on a campaign to conquer the Mushroom Kingdom and "paint the town red." King Boo abducts Mario himself and several Toads and [[PhantomZonePicture imprisons them within paintings]], and performs experiments on his own ghosts whereas he had previously been a PapaWolf to his minions. In his culmination of depravity, King Boo tears open a portal to the ghosts' homeworld and threatens to tear apart the fabric of the universe out of spite. In ''[[VideoGame/LuigisMansion3 3]]'', he is set free by [[LoonyFan Hellen Gravely]], and together they gather Luigi and his friends in the Last Resort hotel in another attempt to trap them in paintings. King Boo eventually writes off Hellen and her staff as failures and attempts to absorb the entire hotel, ghosts and all, [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill just to capture Luigi]]. |
| 84 | ** ''VideoGame/PaperMario'' series: |
| 85 | *** ''[[VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor The Thousand-Year Door]]'': [[spoiler:[[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen The Shadow Queen]] is an [[AncientEvil ancient demon]] who once decimated the town that would become Rogueport, reducing it to waste while spreading her evil worldwide. Unleashing her trio of dragon pets onto the world to end countless lives while using her Pit of 100 Trials to torture and kill anyone who defied her, the Shadow Queen was [[SealedEvilInACan sealed away]] by four heroes, but only after cursing each of them to be trapped and corrupted for centuries inside the black chests. Upon being revived by Sir Grodus, the Shadow Queen [[EvilIsNotAToy immediately repays Grodus by nearly killing him]], before [[DemonicPossession possessing]] Princess Peach and using her body in a new attempt to bring destruction onto the world and either turn Mario and his friends to her side, or kill them all.]] |
| 86 | *** ''[[VideoGame/SuperPaperMario Super]]'': [[spoiler:[[MonsterClown Dimentio]] masquerades as a humorous henchman under Count Bleck's employ, while [[TheManInFrontOfTheMan secretly harboring more sinister designs]]. Dimentio [[TheChessmaster manipulates every faction towards his ultimate goal]] to use the Chaos Heart to obliterate reality so that he could create a new one [[InTheirOwnImage under his control]]. To this end, Dimentio brainwashes Fracktail and sends him out to be killed by Mario; experiments on his own subordinates with the brain-jacking Floro Sprouts; seemingly murders Mario and his friends by sending them to the Underwhere; and secretly implants a Floro Sprout within Luigi's mind to revert him back to Mr. L. After Count Bleck is defeated, Dimentio attempts to kill him, seemingly murdering Nastasia in the process. Dimentio seizes Luigi as his host in the final battle and, after his defeat, uses the Chaos Heart to [[SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum try to destroy reality]] as an act of spite.]] |
| 87 | ** ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime'': The younger [[VillainousPrincess Princess Shroob]] is [[TheHeavy the acting ruler]] of the [[AliensAreBastards Shroobs]], and debuts leading an [[AlienInvasion invasion force]] to lay waste to the Mushroom Kingdom and depose Princess Peach. Under her heel, the Mushroom Kingdom is reduced to a charnel wasteland, while Toad towns and villages are depopulated so the Shroobs can suck out their life force to fuel their spacecraft, an agonizing and wasting process for the captured Toads. She also unleashes the Yoshi-eating Yoob on the Mushroom Kingdom, transforming whatever it eats into more Yoobs. Princess Shroob also makes a vile public spectacle of Princess Peach's attempted execution, trying to feed her to Petey Piranha in front of a bloodthirsty audience of thousands. Princess Shroob is the crowning example of cruelty even among her AlwaysChaoticEvil species, and is one of the most sadistic villains ever to appear in a ''Mario'' game. |
| 88 | ** ''VideoGame/MarioPlusRabbidsSparksOfHope'': [[EldritchAbomination Cursa]], the physical reincarnation of the [[VideoGame/MarioPlusRabbidsKingdomBattle Megabug]], born from a fragment of the latter absorbing stellar matter and becoming sapient, planned to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy the universe by covering it in darkness]]. Cursa went on to attack the Comet Observatory, causing the Rabbids and Lumas to fuse into Sparks and Cursa to possess Rosalina. After taking over Rosalina's body, Cursa absorbs the life out of and kills hundreds of Sparks across the universe, ultimately planning to absorb all of the remaining Sparks across the universe and kill them as well so that it can [[HopeCrusher crush Rosalina's hope]]--purely out of spite--and also so that it can retain control over her. Cursa goes on to pollute multiple worlds with [[OminousObsidianOoze Darkmess]], causing destruction and mayhem. Cursa then attacks the Mushroom Kingdom and mind controls all of Bowser's minions. Cursa later absorbs the life out of three Sparks given to it by one of its three remaining Spark Hunter minions and swiftly kills said Sparks in the process, and cruelly punishes and abuses the other two Spark Hunters for not having any Sparks for it to absorb. |
| 89 | * CrackShip: Although it's really just a joke ship, after Shigeru Miyamoto ([[TrollingCreator jokingly]]) claimed to be Bowser Jr's mother in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu2DnTd3dEo this short interview video]], a lot of [[HoYay Miyamoto/Bowser fanart]] suddenly cropped up. |
| 90 | * CreepyCute: Most of the series' AdorableEvilMinions are this. Case in point, Boos--roundish ghosts with beady eyes and sharp fangs...that also let out [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBgcoV5Wx7Q adorably high-pitched cackles]] whenever they spot you, and stick out their tongues like {{Bratty Half Pint}}s. |
| 91 | * DeathOfTheAuthor: |
| 92 | ** In general, due to the open-ended nature of the franchise and {{fanon}} heavy nature of the fandom, any WordOfGod statement is likely gonna be met with this from a good portion of the fandom, especially if it goes against the general {{fanon}} consensus. |
| 93 | ** To much of the fandom, the WordOfGod confirming that the Koopalings are not related to Bowser was received poorly. So much so that Nintendo would later backtrack on it slightly in favor of having their relationship to Bowser [[ShrugOfGod be ambiguous]]. |
| 94 | ** The WordOfGod announcing that Toads are [[TaxonomicTermConfusion not mushroom-people]] like the Goombas but merely ''midgets wearing mushroom caps'' also raised some hackles. There was also an announcement that Toad and Toadette are not considered to be related, but this merely fueled an already BrokenBase between the faction of the fandom that interpreted them as brother and sister and those who thought they were in a relationship. Later, it would be confirmed that [[FlipFlopOfGod the mushroom caps actually were part of a Toad's head and not merely a hat]]. Much like the Toad/Toadette debate, this fueled arguments over whether this should be accepted as canon or not. |
| 95 | ** ''Mario'' fans like debating what is a "true 3D ''Mario'' game" and what isn't. In 2017, Nintendo ended the discussion by releasing a chart a few months prior to ''Odyssey'' being released. Nintendo sees ''64'', ''Sunshine'', and ''Odyssey'' as "hardcore" open-world 3D platformers while ''Galaxy'', ''Galaxy 2'', ''3D Land'', and ''3D World'' are more linear, casual aimed endeavors. Despite many fans thinking that ''3D World'' didn't count amongst the leagues of ''64'' and ''Sunshine'', few thought that the two ''Galaxy'' games didn't count. This upset fans and many just ignored Nintendo's claims; many of them considered it a FalseDichotomy, as while the ''Galaxy'' games are more linear and tightly focused, their sense of innovation and ambition is more similar to ''64'' and ''Sunshine''. |
| 96 | ** Mario and Luigi canonically being in their [[YoungerThanTheyLook mid-twenties]] is largely ignored by fans, as many prefer to interpret the two as being in their early to mid-thirties instead. |
| 97 | * DelusionConclusion: The games are often theorised (probably jokingly) to be Mario's hallucinations, with common arguments being common misconceptions that he smashes bricks with his head when jumping and eats mushrooms to grow in size. |
| 98 | * DemonicSpiders: The series has two main ones: Hammer Bros., and Lakitu. Hammer Bros. lob a barrage of hammers at you, which is jarring since you mostly jump over most hazards. Lakitu mostly float out of your reach and they throw the already hard-to-kill [[TheSpiny Spinies]] at you. |
| 99 | * DesignatedMonkey: Luigi getting mistreated (such as by the Star Gate in ''Partners In Time'' or even ''Peach'' of all people in ''Super Princess Peach'') tends to inspire the fanbase to sympathize with him. |
| 100 | * DieForOurShip: While more civil shipping-wise than other fandoms, even this fandom is occasionally subject to it: |
| 101 | ** Mario himself has been bashed and demonized in fanfiction for the sake of pairing Peach with Bowser or Luigi. Peach/Bowser fans in particular like to write off him as a JerkAss who doesn't like Peach, only the thrill of the chase that comes with saving her from Bowser. The opposite happens with Mario/Peach fans, and while more justified [[BigBad in that case]], it still ignores his JerkWithAHeartOfGold side. |
| 102 | ** Tomboyish Princess Daisy is bashed by people who want to pair Luigi with Peach or Rosalina and [[YaoiFangirl those hung up on Luigi being gay]]. |
| 103 | ** In the anime film ''Anime/TheGreatMissionToSavePrincessPeach'', Prince Haru from the Flower Kingdom comes under fire from this due to him being Peach's fiancé. In other words, messing up the [=MarioxPeach=] ending. Thankfully for them, Haru is a CanonForeigner who will never show up in the games. |
| 104 | ** Rosalina is a huge BaseBreakingCharacter already, never mind shipping. Many Mario/Peach fans and Luigi/Daisy fans are very wary of her because she has no love interest, the assumed ShipTease between her and the Bros., and the fact that that Mario/Rosalina and Luigi/Rosalina are fairly popular. |
| 105 | ** Pauline quite possibly gets the worst of this of all. She gets bashed horribly by Peach/Mario fans. She's his ''ex''-girlfriend and they're just friends now but shippers act like she's constantly trying to seduce Mario. There's also a great deal of SlutShaming due to Pauline's attire and makeup in comparison to Peach's PrincessClassic style. |
| 106 | ** It's not unknown for fans of Captain Syrup and Wario together to be hostile towards Mona of ''VideoGame/WarioWare'' for having a PrecociousCrush on the man. |
| 107 | ** In general, any ship that is not Mario/Peach or Luigi/Daisy is not well received by the shippers. |
| 108 | * DracoInLeatherPants: |
| 109 | ** Bowser. Despite his [[PetTheDog redeeming qualities]], he has committed evil plenty of times and has failed to learn from any of his defeats. |
| 110 | ** Popular RPG villains are subject to this, especially Count Bleck of ''VideoGame/SuperPaperMario'', a textbook WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds. |
| 111 | ** The Shroobs have this reputation despite almost all of them being {{Omnicidal Maniac}}s in canon. |
| 112 | * EscapistCharacter: Mario was designed with this in mind. |
| 113 | * EstrogenBrigade: [[https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-06-11-hands-on-with-luigis-mansion-3-and-its-multiplayer-dungeon-crawling-scarescraper-mode Nintendo research]] observed that Luigi was especially popular with women. |
| 114 | * EvenBetterSequel: Often what fans think of ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'' compared to the original, as well as the common opinion on ''VideoGame/SuperMarioLand2SixGoldenCoins'', ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosU'', ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioMaker2'' when compared to their respective predecessors. |
| 115 | * EvilIsCool: |
| 116 | ** Bowser is one of the most beloved and classic video game villains of all time. He's also one of the few ''Mario'' characters who has a fleshed-out personality, and is praised by many fans for looking and acting like an outright badass in a world filled with characters that are generally cheery, silly and cartoonish. Even though he suffers VillainDecay intermittently, he is able to make up for it by reversing it in games like ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy''. |
| 117 | ** King Boo, specifically his ''[[VideoGame/LuigisMansion Luigi's Mansion]]'' incarnation, is beloved for being the official ArchEnemy to Luigi, having a snarky yet manipulative personality, and for being a [[KnightOfCerebus surprisingly dark]] and [[VileVillainSaccharineShow serious antagonist in a rather lighearted franchise.]] His popularity most likely led to this design being included in [[VideoGame/MarioKart Mario Kart Tour]] along with his mainline design. |
| 118 | ** Many of the RPG game villains. [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory Fawful]] was so cool he ended up an EnsembleDarkhorse because of it, [[VideoGame/SuperPaperMario Dimentio]] went the same way, [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga Cackletta]], [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory Midbus]], [[VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor the Shadow Queen, X-Nauts]], and [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiDreamTeam Antasma]] all have a pretty dedicated fandom due to their evil acts and general coolness. |
| 119 | ** Wario was so cool he became a BreakOutCharacter and got his own franchise. Waluigi, his partner (brother?) in crime, is also loved for being an endearingly weird and sneaky DastardlyWhiplash, and many people want him to appear in a main ''Mario'' or ''Wario'' game - plus the [[FountainOfMemes many]] [[MemeticMutation memes]] in his name that culminated in his MemeticLoser exclusion from ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate''. |
| 120 | ** Fans have been clamouring for [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 Wart]] to return since 1988. |
| 121 | ** The Koopalings are generally considered a cool QuirkyMinibossSquad due to their entertaining personalities, fun boss fights, and catchy music. |
| 122 | * FandomEnragingMisconception: |
| 123 | ** Asking for ''Super Mario Bros. 4'' to be made will lead irked fans to pointing out that ''it already exists'' -- only that it was shortened as ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'', its subtitle, in most other regions. |
| 124 | ** Don't call the DamselInDistress in the ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong'' arcade game "Peach". The damsel in that game is not Princess Peach but ''Pauline'', who is not a princess and appears ''alongside'' Peach in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey''. |
| 125 | ** While many fans will seriously debate that Peach and Rosalina are related, stating Peach is Rosalina's mother is not something that most serious fans enjoy people throwing around. Even worse is thinking Luigi is Rosalina's father. |
| 126 | ** Luigi and Mario are twins. However, many don't realize this due to either not playing the ''Yoshi's Island'' game or because they falsely believe that all twins are identical. Assuming they have a large age difference amongst fans will get you laughed at. |
| 127 | ** Saying that Mario is a [[RonTheDeathEater sociopath]] (A sentiment popularized by ''WebVideo/GameTheory''), or even implying such, is guaranteed to ''not'' end well for you. You ''might'' get away with it if you are just joking, but it is generally not advised. |
| 128 | ** Just mentioning the Koopalings are not Bowser's children can invoke outrageous reactions. You'll either get people who hate the concept, or you'll meet people who cry DeathOfTheAuthor and still insist they're related. |
| 129 | ** Don't you ever say that Luigi is a "recolored version" of Mario. Luigi has already been different to Mario, with his unique physical appearance, personality, and attributes. |
| 130 | ** Similar to Luigi, the idea of Daisy being a "recolored version" of Peach is incorrect. Bring that up or, God forbid, call her "Yellow Peach", and you'll receive a "side-by-side" comparison image pointing out their physical differences, and also a history lesson regarding Daisy's origins. |
| 131 | ** Fans of Rosalina don't mind if you compare her to [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa]], but don't call her an Elsa rip-off. Rosalina predates Elsa by a good six years. Doing it the other way around isn't advised either... |
| 132 | ** Fans also take great pains to remind you that just because Rosalina wears a dress and a crown like Peach and Daisy, it does ''not'' mean that she is a princess (she was in early promotional material, but the canon has officially dropped it). ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' and many other subsequent games imply that she is more of a PhysicalGoddess than anything. |
| 133 | ** Say that Peach is a useless DamselInDistress around her fans, and get ready to be reminded of all the instances in which she TookALevelInBadass[[labelnote:List]]''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2'', ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG'', ''VideoGame/SuperPaperMario'', ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'', ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'', ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosWonder'', ''VideoGame/SuperPrincessPeach'' and ''VideoGame/PrincessPeachShowtime''[[/labelnote]]. This came back with force with the release of trailers for [[WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie the 2023 animated movie]] that depicted Peach taking a much stronger role in commanding her kingdom against Bowser's forces and setting out with Mario on his adventure; people that complained about this portrayal being too out-of-character were met with a flood of examples from the games that showed her more badass roles. |
| 134 | ** Most Daisy fans don't mind if you quote her most prominent line in ''VideoGame/MarioKartDoubleDash'', "Hi, I'm Daisy!", but don't claim around them that Daisy says it in all of the games she appears in as if it was her catchphrase or else they'll give you a lecture on how ''Double Dash'' is the only game where Daisy says the line in. |
| 135 | ** [[VideoGame/YoshisIsland Baby Bowser]] and [[VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine Bowser Jr.]] are '''not''' the same character. The former is Bowser as a child and the latter is Bowser's son. |
| 136 | ** "Koopa Kid" only refers to the character from the first seven entries in the ''VideoGame/MarioParty'' series (at least for Americans; for Europeans and Australians, the character is known as "Mini Bowser"), and have no connection to Bowser Jr., the Koopalings or Baby Bowser whatsoever (for added confusion, in the first three ''Mario Party'' games, [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness Koopa Kid was named "Baby Bowser"]]). |
| 137 | ** For people who live in Spanish-speaking countries, "Bros" is an abbreviation of "brothers" [[IAmNotShazam and not Mario's last name]]. The title is usually read as "Super Mario '''Brothers'''". Saying otherwise will get you laughed at for your poor English. Also, please, don't pronounce or spell "bros" as "bross". |
| 138 | ** Saying with a straight face that Yoshi's full name is T. Yoshisaur Munchakoopas, or that Mario's species name is ''homo nintendonus''. The source, a 1993 character guide published only by Nintendo of America, [[PoesLaw is not meant to be taken seriously]] and [[WordOfDante was written by somebody unaffiliated]] with Nintendo of Japan. |
| 139 | * FandomRivalry: Most famously with the ''[[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Sonic]]'' franchise during the 90s MediaNotes/ConsoleWars, it dissipated once Sega stopped making consoles. Now, since the two franchises have crossed over on many occasions since then, they have become FriendlyFandoms at most now. |
| 140 | * FanPreferredCutContent: Concept art shown in ''The Art of VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey'' book features a very different concept of what would become New Donk City called Marihatten, which was much more stylized and would have featured more cartoony humans in the style of Mario, Peach and Pauline compared to New Donk City's more realistic setting. Unsurprisingly, those who are against the idea of New Donk City tend to prefer Marihatten's more Mario-esque approach instead, with some wanting to see the idea revisited in a future game. |
| 141 | * FoeYayShipping: Since Mario and Bowser [[GoKartingWithBowser play various sports together]], the two are a surprisingly popular ship, especially with the idea of [[JustForFun/{{Bowsette}} turning Bowser into a woman]]. |
| 142 | * FridgeLogic: |
| 143 | ** How do the many enemies that walk in a straight line and never change direction until they bump into something (such as the Koopas described under "Fridge Horror" below) get between the two objects they're walking back and forth between in the first place if they can't walk or jump over them? Does Bowser really go to all the trouble of finding countless pairs of immovable objects and putting minions between them before kidnapping Peach? How do the authorities not start to notice this pattern and take precautions to protect Peach whenever Bowser starts dropping minions between immovable objects? |
| 144 | ** The possibility that the Super Mushroom would technically kill Mario if not for its beneficial result. Some brightly colored mushrooms can be poisonous. |
| 145 | ** What happens to the coins you have that you collected when the brick blocks turn into coins when you hit the P Switch? If it turns all coins into bricks and all bricks into coins, what happens to the coins you carry? |
| 146 | ** The idea of Mario & Luigi being born and raised in the Mushroom Kingdom instead of Brooklyn, New York has also had some folks complaining. Namely why do Mario and Luigi have their Italian accents if they were from the Mushroom Kingdom instead of New York? One could easily see Mario and Luigi's accent as TheArtifact, despite how it makes their current origin story somewhat confusing, the idea of Mario and Luigi having Italian accents is just too iconic for Nintendo to remove. |
| 147 | * FridgeHorror: Letting a Koopa bounce around in between blocks or pipes. Koopa Troopas can't get out of their shells if they're still in motion. They don't lose momentum when they hit solid objects. [[AndIMustScream Ergo, they can possibly go on stuck there forever.]] |
| 148 | * FriendlyFandoms: |
| 149 | ** With ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'', as the two family-friendly series are Nintendo's biggest franchises, hold similar nostalgic value for many fans, and have similarly iconic, cartoonish mascots as their flagship characters. It's not uncommon to hear wishes for a crossover between the two outside of ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros''. |
| 150 | ** Despite (or perhaps because of) their historic FandomRivalry, The ''Mario'' fandom and the ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' fandom has ironically become one for the same reasons as ''Pokemon''. Two GatewaySeries starring very recognizable and cartoony mascots hailing from colorful universes, that while different, share some similarities. Unlike ''Pokemon'' however, the two franchises have had actual crossover. A whole [[VideoGame/MarioAndSonicAtTheOlympicGames spinoff franchise]] no less. The difference being that there hasn't been a proper PlatformGame crossover yet, which many people really look forward to. In the mean time, they just enjoy the Olympic Games, the numerous crossover Fangames, Fanworks and Mods, and Sonic being a beloved guest star in Super Smash Bros. One of the biggest signs of the two franchises' friendly rivalry is the shared positive response to the modern 2D entries ''VideoGame/SonicSuperstars'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosWonder'', both of which were announced around the same time and were released within three days of each other. Both games are looking to be a very nice return to form after past [[BrokenBase controversial]] 2D game entries (''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog4'' and ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros2'' respectively) with very beautiful and expressive animation and art-styles while also having completely new and unique looking environments and areas and multiple different playable characters (with Amy and Daisy being the biggest surprises). |
| 151 | ** The ''Mario'' series also have a friendly relationship with ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' fandom since they're both Nintendo flagship franchises and highly revered by both hardcore fans and casual gamers. They may some times butt heads over who have the 'better games' or who would win in a fight (Mario vs. Link, Peach vs. Zelda, Bowser vs. Ganon), but it's usually in good fun. When both ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey'' proved to be very equally acclaimed {{Killer App}}s for the Switch, there was much shared rejoicing, even if ''BOTW'' took home most of the awards while ''Odyssey'' became the best-selling game on the system. |
| 152 | ** In general, fans of most Nintendo franchises are bound to be ''Mario'' fans to some extent. Almost all Nintendo fans have played a ''Mario'' game as one of their first Nintendo games, the series is endearing and well-designed enough to continue appealing to fans beyond that level, and many fans of other Nintendo franchises are introduced to them via ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' (for which the ''Mario'' characters are a major draw) or a more in-depth exploration of the company. |
| 153 | * GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The 3D ''Mario'' titles are more well-loved in the West than in Japan. In the West, many of them are considered among the greatest games of all time, with ''Super Mario 64'' considered a hallmark of gaming and three 3D ''Mario'' titles (''Galaxy'', ''Odyssey'' and ''Galaxy 2'') in the top 5 highest-rated games on [=GameRankings=]. In Japan, the 2D ''Mario'' titles are generally preferred due to their nostalgia value, with the 3D titles suffering from the AnimationAgeGhetto -- something that the series' creators weren't too pleased about -- in addition to lower sales. |
| 154 | ** ''Mario'' is easily THE biggest name of video games in Mexico alongside with SNK's fighting games, and the Xbox consoles. His games are well regarded in the country, and merchandising (both official and unofficial) is very huge, when Mexican store chain Liverpool had their first Bolo Fest Desfile Navideño in 2015 in Mexico City (Which is similar to Macy's Thanksgiving Parade in the United States) Mario became the first of two video game series to get a balloon (similar to how Sonic The Hedgehog got his own balloon by Macy's back in 1993.), and until the Japanese release later overtook it, the Mexican release of ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie became one of, now the second highest grossing international release for any Illumination film (surpassing their previous releases like ''WesternAnimation/{{Minions}}'') and for any video game film adaptation and became the highest-grossing film ''of all time'' in Mexico. (Even surpassing the two [[Film/{{Sonic the Hedgehog|2020}} Sonic]] [[Film/{{Sonic the Hedgehog 2|2022}} movies]], two [[Film/SpiderManNoWayHome Marvel]] [[Film/AvengersEndgame movies]], and two [[WesternAnimation/{{Coco}} Pixar]] [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory4 films]] in Mexican box office performance.) |
| 155 | * GoodBadBugs: |
| 156 | ** The "small fiery Mario" glitch. If you hit Bowser and the axe at the same time at the end of an x-4 level, you'll start the next level as a large Mario who dies in one hit. Take a mushroom and you become small; take a Fire Flower and you become small and fiery. |
| 157 | ** If you're small and you hit Bowser and the axe at the same time, Mario dies but the level still registers as a win, leaving Toad saying his "Thank You Mario/Luigi!" line to a blank screen. |
| 158 | ** Correct pipes in the World 8-4 PipeMaze will have the Pirahna Plants inhabiting them suddenly disappear as you approach them. This significantly reduces the potential aggravation of guessing the correct pipe. |
| 159 | ** If you jump on the axe just as the timer reaches zero in any castle level, you'll get a huge bonus of 50,000 points. This is because of a bug in which the timer rolls over to 999 and keeps counting down from there. However, this does not work in the NES version, since it doesn't give you a time bonus for castles. This can only be done in the "Vs." (arcade) and Super Mario All-Stars versions.[[note]]plus most, if not all versions of ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosTheLostLevels''[[/note]] |
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| 163 | * HardToAdaptWork: One of the staff writers on ''Series/TheSuperMarioBrosSuperShow'' [[https://vantagepointinterviews.com/2018/09/11/do-the-mario-perry-martin-on-scripting-the-cartoon-adaptations-of-the-super-mario-bros/ explained]] that the show's production team found it hard to derive material from the [[ExcusePlot shallow plots and thin characters]] of the games (which was especially the case in 1989, when the series' presence in the United States amounted to just the [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros1 first]] [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 two]] games-- ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'' wouldn't be out in the States for another year), which is why most of the episodes are structured around stock movie and historical parodies. Indeed, Nintendo of America themselves had cold feet about the idea of adapting the games into an animated series, and the games being difficult to adapt may have been a factor in that opinion. The franchise was in a primitive state, so that's unsurprising. It wasn't until ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie'' in 2023 that they finally tried it again, and by that time the franchise had a much richer well of characters and lore to draw from. |
| 164 | * HarsherInHindsight: Two in ''Mario Super Sluggers'', both relating to the "close play" feature. At third base and home plate, if a fielder receives the ball just as a baserunner approaches, the runner can attack the fielder thereby jarring the ball loose. Since the game was released, UsefulNotes/MajorLeagueBaseball instituted two rule changes, [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks both unpopular with fans]]. In the 2014 season, MLB brought in the Posey rule which prevents catchers from blocking the plate unless they have the ball. Two seasons later, a rule was added prohibiting takeout slides unless the baserunner makes contact with the bag. |
| 165 | * HilariousInHindsight: |
| 166 | ** In a magazine, Shigeru Miyamoto said "Who knows what Mario will look like in the future? Maybe [[VideoGame/SuperMario64 he'll wear metallic clothes]]?" |
| 167 | ** In ''Mario Teaches Typing'', Mario [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoCa04KxQQ0 sings]] about a "[[VideoGame/SuperMario64 moray eel lunging out]]". |
| 168 | ** In the educational coloring game, ''Super Mario Bros & Friends: When I Grow Up'', one of the digital coloring pages shows [[https://www.mariowiki.com/images/thumb/a/a9/BusinessExecutive.png/150px-BusinessExecutive.png Bowser as a business executive bossing Mario & Luigi around]] and guess who is replacing Reggie Fils Aime as presdient of ''Nintendo of America''? None other than Doug '''Bowser'''. |
| 169 | ** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83GoGHBkdyg initial reveal of the 3DS]] ended on Bowser emerging from the system to blow fire in Reggie's face. As with the previous example, it's a perfect metaphor for Reggie's retirement, and the fact that his replacement is a man named ''Doug Bowser''. |
| 170 | ** [[https://www.deviantart.com/onatart/art/switching-blocks-367891296 Bowser being changed to a]] CuteMonsterGirl [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowsette Sounds familiar?]] |
| 171 | * HypeBacklash: |
| 172 | ** Given that the series is one of the most successful video game franchises on the planet, some people are put off by the series and its main cast (particularly Mario himself) being a SpotlightStealingSquad among Nintendo's franchises,[[note]]one notorious example of this was when almost all non-''Mario'' Toys/{{amiibo}} were difficult to find while the main ''Mario'' cast was extremely common[[/note]]. Some older fans view later games, particularly the ''New Super Mario Bros.'' games and ''VideoGame/MarioKartWii'', as suffering this. |
| 173 | ** [[VocalMinority Some overzealous fans]] of ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' tend to bash the ''Super Mario'' franchise simply for being more popular on an absolute scale, more iconic, and [[AnimationAgeGhetto more cartoony]] than their preferred series, especially when they treat Mario vs. Link comparisons and polls as SeriousBusiness. However, this is rare, and the two generally benefit from FriendlyFandoms. |
| 174 | * IAmNotShazam |
| 175 | ** Mario's name is not "Super Mario". "Super Mario" is just the name for the form he has after he uses a Super Mushroom in most 2D games (though more modern games has this as his default appearance, with his smaller form being known as Small Mario). |
| 176 | ** Many people in Spanish-speaking countries, especially those with no basic knowledge of English, seem to think that "Bros" is Mario's last name, much to the annoyance of fans. The offenders also pronounce it as "Mario Bross". |
| 177 | * IncestYayShipping: |
| 178 | ** Toad and Toadette are very close, but Nintendo can't seem to decide what their particular relationship is. The ''Mario Kart Wii'' manual identified them as siblings, but Nintendo later confirmed they were not considered as such. This is one possible interpretation when trying to reconcile FlipFlopOfGod and FanonDiscontinuity. |
| 179 | ** Due to them being PlatonicLifePartners, or perhaps simply because of a lack of "shippable" male characters, Mario and Luigi have a decent sized shipping. |
| 180 | * ItsNotSupposedToWinOscars: Anyone who complains about the series' ExcusePlot nature, with fans explaining how you're not supposed to care about plot in the series. However, some fans will bring up how the ''Mario'' RPG games often had storylines a bit more than "Mario saves the Princess from Bowser in Mushroom Kingdom". Others side with Shigeru Miyamoto and his WordOfGod on how the series is always more about gameplay than anything. That said, if ''depth'' of plot doesn't matter to ''Mario'' fans, ''originality'' does, and games that break or play with the series' convention of "Bowser kidnaps Peach and takes her to his castle, and Mario rescues her in the end" are generally preferred. |
| 181 | * ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Starting near the end of the TurnOfTheMillennium and heading into TheNewTens, many complaints were raised about the ''Mario'' series' various games starting to feel homogenized. ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'' became the first direct sequel to a 3D ''Mario'' game, and ''New Super Mario Bros.'' went from two games to five, with much of its design choices spreading to other games: ''Paper Mario'' infamously dropped almost all of its original creations in ''Sticker Star'', ''Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam'''s locations were mostly based on typical ''NSMB'' worlds and [[SaveThePrincess saving the princesses]] was the crux of the plot when every other game in the series usually had it as a minor arc in the story, and even the spinoffs like ''Mario Tennis'' (both ''Open'' and ''Ultra Smash'') and ''Mario Golf: World Tour'' received complaints about how little they tried to branch out. Though later games like ''Super Mario Odyssey'' and ''Mario Tennis Aces'' alleviated some of these complaints, it was common during this time for people to complain about how "samey" the franchise had become, and [[VindicatedByHistory talk positively]] about how older games like ''Super Mario Sunshine'' and ''Super Mario Strikers'' were more willing to take risks and try new things, even if they didn't pan out. |
| 182 | * LGBTFanbase: |
| 183 | ** Bowser is ''incredibly'' popular with the gay/mlm fandom, most notably with [[PopularWithFurries furries]] and fans of the BaraGenre. |
| 184 | ** Luigi has significant popularity with queer fans as well given that he's more InTouchWithHisFeminineSide compared to Mario, including him [[WholesomeCrossDresser willingly wearing a dress]] in a few appearances and being hinted to wanting to use the [[VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosU Super Crown]]. This combined with his interactions with Prince Peasley in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'' has some queer fans happily embracing him as gay and/or transgender, or at least very fluid with his gender and sexuality. Of course, there's also the fans that [[FoeYayShipping ship Bowser and Luigi]], and this notably increased with the 2023 movie... |
| 185 | * MemeticBadass: Luigi has become this in later years, especially since the Year of Luigi. To give examples, we have [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6PxRwgjzZw "Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing"]], which is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. The video became so popular it has spawned several others making similar videos. Several comments are "You don't screw with Luigi", "Now begins the age of Luigi" etc etc. And how can we ever forget his [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03eNODCDdqY infamous death stare from Mario Kart 8?]] Many has jokingly stated that his sudden ghetto attitude in the fandom is his breaking point from being trampled so much due to his MemeticLoser status. |
| 186 | * MemeticLoser: |
| 187 | ** Princess Daisy got this treatment more and more over time as newer and more popular characters such as [[EnsembleDarkhorse Rosalina]] appeared, causing Daisy to get lost in the rush. Rosalina has appeared in ''Super Smash Bros.'' and playable in a main game before Daisy, who is eighteen years older than her. Since Luigi and Daisy are usually paired up, at least they can be losers together. Daisy's newfound status as TheUnfavourite loser has actually made her a lot more sympathetic and likeable as a character instead of being a widely despised [[TheScrappy scrappy]] among fans. It got worse now when a ''trampoline'' was picked as a playable costume for Mario over her in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioMaker'', and it wouldn't be until later on that Daisy was added as a costume. Since then, [[ThrowTheDogABone her playable appearance]] in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRun'' helped slightly lessen her status, and then she became a playable fighter in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate''. |
| 188 | ** Waluigi is infamous for being seldom used outside spin-off games despite being one of the series' most popular characters and having a devoted fanbase that wants Waluigi to get the spotlight he deserves. His absence in ''VideoGame/MarioKart7'' doesn't help matters. |
| 189 | %%** Luigi's example is zigzagged, since he's ''also'' a MemeticBadass... so the full meme is that absolutely nobody will ever give him credit for it. |
| 190 | * MemeticMutation: [[Memes/SuperMarioBros Quite a bit, actually]]. |
| 191 | * MemeticPsychopath: Virtually every character has probably had his or her turn at being portrayed as this. Waluigi is the most prominent example, where many of his fans (thanks to ''Webcomic/BrawlInTheFamily'') depict him as an embodiment of MindScrew, and [[EnsembleDarkhorse absolutely adore him]] for it. |
| 192 | * SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound: |
| 193 | ** The OneUp chime. |
| 194 | ** The power-up sound. |
| 195 | ** The pipe sound and level ending fanfare, too. |
| 196 | * MyRealDaddy: While nobody will deny that Creator/ShigeruMiyamoto was very influential to the series' development, Nintendo of America shaped up the setting of the ''Mario'' series of how its known today. Such as the setting of the games such as Mario & Luigi being plumbers from Brooklyn who got to the Mushroom Kingdom via a Warp Pipe in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros1''. to character names such as Mario, Pauline, Luigi, the Koopalings and more in fact the idea of the Koopalings being Bowser's children was NOA's idea. However due to certain actions from Shigeru such as him saying that the Koopalings are no longer Bowser's kids and what happened to ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'' have caused plenty of backlash. |
| 197 | * NarmCharm: ''The whole series'' runs by this principle. It's an irreverent and bizarre ConstructedWorld, populated by funny-looking characters with a very quirky sense of humor, but the games are done with such sincerity and charm that [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy when they try]] [[VideoGame/SuperPaperMario to take themselves]] [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory seriously]], ''it works''. |
| 198 | * NeverLiveItDown: |
| 199 | ** "Hi, I'm Daisy!" is one of Daisy's quotes in ''Mario Kart: Double Dash!!'', which she says whenever you switch drivers or when she wins a race in first place, causing it to potentially become a bit repetitive. In spite of ''Double Dash'' being the only game in which she says the line in, pretty much everything regarding Daisy online will inevitably bring up the "Hi, I'm Daisy" quote as if it was her [[CharacterCatchphrase catchphrase]] or the only thing she ever says. It doesn't help that while a lot of Mario fans don't play the spinoff games all that much, they ''do'' play ''Mario Kart'' games, and for many ''Double Dash'' was their first impression of Daisy. |
| 200 | ** Boy, does Princess Peach get lots of this: |
| 201 | *** Peach's reaction to Bowser Jr. telling her that she's his mommy in ''Super Mario Sunshine'' -- or, rather, her complete ''lack'' of it. She's supposed to be confused by what Jr. said about her being his mama, but the way the line is delivered makes it sound weird to a lot of fans. Many people (especially detractors of the character) cite it as one of the most defining examples of the princess being a complete ditz, and ignore the instances of her being portrayed competently in the series (particularly in the [=RPG=]s). [[EpilepticTrees Others cite it as evidence of certain fan theories pertaining to Peach's relationship with Bowser.]] |
| 202 | *** Peach getting kidnapped constantly is this in and out of the games. Outside of the games this has convinced some people that Peach is nothing but a DamselScrappy who does nothing but get kidnapped. While game developers ''do'' rely too much on her classic DamselInDistress role, Peach has also [[TookALevelInBadass Taken Several Levels in Badass]] throughout the series. |
| 203 | *** There's also her [[spoiler:rejecting both Mario and Bowser marriage proposals, leaving them in tears and seemingly hijacking the Odyssey]] at the end of ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey''. In reality [[spoiler:Peach only rejected their marriage proposals because they literally consisted of them shoving flowers into her face. She doesn't steal the Odyssey either, as she can clearly be heard calling out "Let's go home!" to Mario and Bowser]]. As of the post-game content, it's also shown that even though Mario went a bit too far with his competitive attitude when Bowser sabotaged his proposal, Peach already forgave him for what happened. |
| 204 | ** Mario also gets lots of this: |
| 205 | *** Mario stomps on Luigi's foot in ''Power Tennis'' as a mildly [=OOC=] act of SiblingRivalry. People always use this scene as evidence Mario is a BitchInSheepsClothing and a bad brother to Luigi that doesn't want him to steal his spotlight. Several videos and animations seem to take this way too, with the relationship between the bros portrayed in a negative light, with Mario usually characterized as being a jerk to Luigi and not caring about him. However, outside of few exceptions like Professor E. Gadd, Daisy and Peach, he's the only character that never gets his name wrong. At worst, he does tease him and laugh at his expenses like almost every character does and is competitive with him, but all of this are minor things. Mario genuinely loves his brother and would focus all his energies on saving him if he has to, and Luigi would just as often return the favour when he's the one that needs help. Despite the games show how much Mario cares about him and that in turn, Luigi admires him and is very loyal to him, with more and more proof of that as the years passed, this scene, combined with a certain theory, caused a large Mario hatedom from Luigi fans. |
| 206 | *** For ''WebVideo/GameTheory'' fans, Mario will forever be known as a sociopath, [[BadPeopleAbuseAnimals animal abuser]], UngratefulBastard, sexual predator, BigBrotherBully and every other bad adjective in the book because of the "Mario is Mental" theory and its huge RonTheDeathEater supply. It doesn't help that this theory was often milked by Matpat in a few of his other theory videos and how he says "''officially''" at the end of the "Mario is Mental" theory, which was released in October 2013, almost ten years ago, and this, combined with misconceptions that include his relationship with Luigi, caused a lot of people to hate Mario, especially Luigi fans. |
| 207 | *** Even the feminist, socio-political essay channel WebVideo/TheTake got in on it with their "[[https://youtu.be/bnFyXPfGKFs Luigi (Not Mario) Is The Man We Need Right Now]]" video, where they essentially use the same arguments Matpat made in calling Mario a bad brother. Another Youtuber did make three videos about 10 reasons why Mario is not a hero, using similiar pieces of evidence and more from the spin-offs, but the difference is that those videos didn't really took all of this seriously unlike the afromentioned examples, and years later, he made fun of them in a video where he mentioned 30 reasons why Mario really is a hero with the same reasons as the older videos but in reverse, mentioning positive things instead of negative ones. |
| 208 | * OlderThanTheyThink: |
| 209 | ** Most would be led to believe that Luigi's signature CowardlyLion personality got its start in the ''VideoGame/LuigisMansion'' series, or even in the cartoons if they're familiar with them, but what some might not know is that the earliest example of Luigi's cowardice comes from [[https://youtu.be/dduvx-dEySY this commercial]] for ''VideoGame/MarioBros'' for the Platform/Atari2600 and [[Platform/Atari5200 5200]]. In it, Luigi is shown running for his life while being bombarded by Shellcreepers, Sidesteppers, and Fighter Flies, before [[SayMyName calling out for Mario]] and hiding in a pipe while waving a WhiteFlag. |
| 210 | ** Most fans tend to think that Daisy started to become an energetic {{tomboy princess}} in the early 2000s as a way to make her more distinctive from Peach. However, contrary to popular belief, Daisy has been characterized as a tomboyish princess from the very beginning, as she was described as an energetic tomboy in both ''VideoGame/SuperMarioLand'''s Japanese manual and on the game's Japanese website, and several early mangas from the 1990s and (to a lesser extent) the 1993 live-action movie all showcase her hot-headed, competitive and tomboyish sides years before the games did. |
| 211 | * OneTruePairing: Mario and Peach, obviously. Albeit supporters of other couples are far from scarce or undevoted, this one is the gold standard by which all video game relationships are measured. They've been together since the franchise's inception and the games never stop dealing out {{Ship Tease}}s between them like candy. |
| 212 | * OvershadowedByControversy: Not the games themselves, but the English localisation of ''Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia'', a book that covers the franchise from ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros1'' on the [[Platform/NintendoEntertainmentSystem NES]] to ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'' on the Platform/WiiU and officially licensed by Creator/{{Nintendo}}, has become very difficult to recommend buying to fans after it was discovered that one translator on the localisation team [[Platform/{{Plagiarism}} plagiarised]] from the Super Mario Wiki and Mario Fandom when it came to the more obscure character names across the franchise instead of doing research and contacting Nintendo. Both Creator/DarkHorseComics and Nintendo were roundly criticised for proof-reading negligence, and Nintendo's notorious litigation against [[FanGame Fan Games]] also made them look like [[{{Hypocrite}} Hypocrites]]. The controversy only applies to the book's English localisation; Super Mario Wiki's Website/{{Twitter}} page confirmed that the German and French localisation teams were not guilty of plagiarism; the Spanish localisation wasn't subject to any sort of scandal either. |
| 213 | * PeripheryDemographic: While the franchise was considered primarily for children at the beginning of its life before switching to a broader [[https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Iwata-Asks/Iwata-Asks-Super-Mario-Galaxy/Volume-1-The-Producer-and-Director/4-From-5-to-95/4-From-5-to-95-230131.html for all ages]] approach in the [[https://www.ign.com/articles/2004/05/11/e3-2004-miyamoto-roundtable-2 as early as the beginning of the 2000s]], it fittingly also has one of Nintendo's biggest fanbases among teenagers and adults, and started [[MultipleDemographicAppeal being marketed towards all ages]] long before ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' did -- Mario was even being marketed to casual non-gamer adults during the Wii era, and the franchise is frequently used for {{Geek Reference Pool}}s. There's a ''reason'' why it's the most famous and popular game series of all time and Mario is widely considered to be a symbol of Video Games as a whole. |
| 214 | * PopCultureHoliday: March 10th is Mario Day, since the date can be spelled as "[=MAR10=]." Originally, Mario Day celebrated anybody named Mario, but it quickly became associated with ''[[JustForFun/OneMarioLimit the]]'' Mario. Nintendo has celebrated March 10th as Mario Day since 2016. |
| 215 | * RecurringFanonCharacter: |
| 216 | ** JustForFun/{{Bowsette}} came about as a result of fans speculating what the BigBad Bowser would look like under the effects of the Super Crown from ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosU'', which in canon turns Toadette, and only her, into a human resembling Princess Peach, granting her the ability to double jump and glide. The trend started in 2018 when an artist on Twitter put out [[https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1412109-bowsette this fancomic]] based on the ending of ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey''. Ever since, fans of the idea have been pumping out artwork and even cosplays of their own take on the Peachified koopa king with [[SlidingScaleOfAnthropomorphism varying degrees]] of human and koopa traits as well as her hair color varying from blonde (to better resemble Peach) to red (to stay truer to Bowser). Bowsette inspired countless fan works, including ''Webcomic/BowsetteSaga'', and multiple Not-Safe-For-Work works. She became incredibly popular, to the point Nintendo had to offer a "no comment" about it, but made clear [[DiscreditedMeme the character could never happen]]. |
| 217 | ** The popularity of Bowsette has led to the creation of other Super Crown versions of Mario characters. The next most popular is Booette, a female, humanoid version of King Boo. |
| 218 | ** Claudia Koopa is Bowser's ex-wife and Bowser Jr's (and sometimes the Koopalings) mother. She originates from false rumors that a British issue of ''Magazine/NintendoPower'' once mentioned her. In reality, the magazine wasn't even released in the UK. |
| 219 | ** Sponge is a depressed third Mario brother created by Vinny from ''WebVideo/{{Vinesauce}}''. The popularity of Vinesauce made him probably the most well known depiction of a third Mario brother. |
| 220 | ** Shy Gal is a female human version of a Shy Guy. She became popular in fanart because of her attractive figure. |
| 221 | ** Grand Dad is a color-swapped version of Mario who originates from ''7 GRAND DAD'', a Mario-themed bootleg version of ''VideoGame/TheFlintstonesTheRescueOfDinoAndHoppy''. He became well known after the game was streamed by Joel from ''WebVideo/{{Vinesauce}}''. He later became best known as the mascot of the [=YouTube=] parody music channel ''Music/SiIvaGunner''. Grand Dad has received many memes, fanart, and even fangames. |
| 222 | ** [=SMG4=] is a character from the web series of [[WebAnimation/Supermarioglitchy4sSuperMario64Bloopers the same name]]. He is the creator’s AuthorAvatar and a blue and white recolor of Mario who has received a lot of fanart and fanworks because of his videos’ popularity, at least prior his redesign in 2022 that erased his conection with the ''Mario'' franchise to avoid getting ScrewedByTheLawyers, which has caused it to no longer appear, or at least not be used as much as it once was in ''Mario'' fanworks. |
| 223 | ** Another popular character from ''[=SMG4=]'' is Fishy Boopkins, an {{Otaku}} Spike with a wacky personality. He became popular enough that many refer to any Spike as Fishy Boopkins. Though much like [=SMG4=], he stopped frequently appearing in ''Mario'' fanworks after his redesign. |
| 224 | ** Scripulous Fingore comes from an UrbanLegendOfZelda and was supposedly an unused ghost enemy in ''[[VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros1 New Super Mario Bros. DS]]'' that was removed from the game for unknown reasons. The hoax became popular with fans, as Scripulous received many memes, fanart, and edits. |
| 225 | ** JustForFun/{{Wapeach}}, a Wario-counterpart to Peach who was [[WhatCouldHaveBeen originally going to appear]] in ''VideoGame/MarioPowerTennis'', became extremely popular in late 2023 due to her cute appearance, yet [[FaceOfAnAngelMindOfADemon violent personality]]. Many fans are hoping that she'll be [[RefittedForSequel brought back in the future]]. |
| 226 | * RemadeAndImproved: While the original NES platformers are well regarded as being classics, the remakes included in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioAllStars'' are regarded by many fans to be superior to the original games, due to having more detailed graphics, a upgraded soundtrack, as well as having better save features (and in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'''s case, a save feature at all, given that the original game notoriously lacks one). |
| 227 | * ReplacementScrappy: |
| 228 | ** Bowser Jr. While he is also hated for his lackluster design (he is an {{Expy}} of [[VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld2YoshisIsland Bowser's baby self]]), he is mostly hated for replacing the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad Koopalings]] in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine''. To a lesser extent, he gets this reaction for replacing the Koopa Kids of the spinoffs as well. When WordOfGod has stated that the Koopalings are no longer considered Bowser's children and only Bowser Jr. is his true child, the hate toward him intensified. |
| 229 | ** The Koopalings are a bizzare example as they didn't begin as this. When ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii'' first came out, the Koopalings' appearances were praised for bringing a set of characters who haven't appeared in a mainline game since ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' back to the series. Then by the time ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosU'' came out, people resented them for appearing in every ''New Super Mario Bros.'' game since ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' and replacing the unique bosses of [[VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros1 the first game]], turning them into this trope. [[AnAesop It goes to show that there is such a thing as too much of a good thing.]] In an unusual twist of fate, Bowser Jr. was passed over for ''VideoGame/MarioKart8'', just as the Koopalings make their first ever playable appearance in the very same game. Instead of rejoicing, fans deemed the ''Koopalings'' the Replacement Scrappies for this reason; even within the fans who still hate Bowser Jr., there are some who criticize the overexposure of the Koopalings for taking away other ''Mario Kart'' characters (since they occupy seven slots), as well as for having already appeared too much in the ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' games. The inclusion of Bowser Jr. as a playable character in ''[[UpdatedRerelease Mario Kart 8 Deluxe]]'' (among King Boo and Dry Bones), has made some people leave their hatred for the Koopalings behind though. |
| 230 | ** ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2'' has Lubba become this for Rosalina. |
| 231 | ** The Honey Queen Bee and Metal Mario in ''VideoGame/MarioKart7'' are all this to Waluigi, who wasn't playable. |
| 232 | ** Some fans feel like Rosalina is becoming this to Daisy due to Rosalina appearing in so many mainline games despite Daisy having being around far longer than she has. The final nail in the coffin for these fans was when the the base roster for ''Mario Strikers: Battle League'' was revealed and Rosalina, who makes her debut in that series with that game, was part of it but not Daisy, who was present for the two previous games. |
| 233 | * RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Bowser Jr. became this in ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii'' after he was announced to appear alongside all Koopalings in the game. His announcement for ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' for Wii U and 3DS, once again accompanied by the Koopalings, was welcomed as well. |
| 234 | * RonTheDeathEater: |
| 235 | ** Luigi's ended up playing the villain (usually after deciding he's tired of playing second banana to Mario) in a number of fanworks, ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' ROM hacks in particular. |
| 236 | ** Or alternatively Mario, whether it's out of him being tired of the status quo or straight up villainization, receives this a lot. |
| 237 | ** Happens to Bowser and Bowser Jr. as well. This is especially apparent in Koopaling-centric fanfiction that turn the former into an abusive father who neglects/punishes the Koopalings whilst playing favorites with Junior (though this isn't to say other stories don't "Death Eater" him, such as making him a rapist), while Junior himself is portrayed as a bullying, manipulative {{jerkass}} who's only heir instead of Ludwig because Bowser made him so. |
| 238 | * RootingForTheEmpire: Bowser is so damned likable and fun that many players find themselves wanting him to win out over the Mario Bros. for once. Look at the top of the page and see how much {{Fanon}} and [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation interpretations]] are about Bowser being the good guy. This is even more prominent during his JerkassWoobie moments. ''Bowser's Inside Story'' seems to be a shout-out for such players, since it puts Bowser in the limelight. |
| 239 | * SacredCow: |
| 240 | ** Luigi is TheWoobie, [[StuckInTheirShadow having been pushed out of the spotlight enough]] InUniverse [[AccidentalMisnaming that just about everyone, aside from Mario and Peach, cannot remember his name]] even though he's done just as much work as Mario and has been just as good at dealing with a threat. He has also been [[TheSoCalledCoward branded a coward]] by Toads [[DudeWheresMyRespect who rag on him even while he's trying to save them]]. Luigi's plight has thus [[UnpopularPopularCharacter elicited a lot of sympathy from the fans]], to the point where it's hard to find any fans who have anything negative to say about the character. Weirdly enough, one of the characters [[RonTheDeathEater who is commonly portrayed as more of a]] {{Jerkass}} in relation to Luigi and his pain is ''Mario'' -- even though he has [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime put himself through hardships because he didn't want to go on without Luigi, supported Luigi while others were abusing him]], [[VideoGame/LuigisMansionDarkMoon and even shown his respect for Luigi's heroics]] -- as Mario is [[TheScapegoat frequently blamed]] for the fact that Luigi gets next to no credit for his heroics merely because [[FamedInStory he happens to be much more well-known throughout the Mushroom Kingdom]], and thus, is a more visible target for fan retribution. |
| 241 | ** While debates rage on in some parts of the fandom, ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'', ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'', ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'', ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'', ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey'', and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosWonder'' are treated as this by the fandom and regarded as some of the finest platformers ever made. |
| 242 | ** On the RPG side, ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG'', the original ''[[VideoGame/PaperMario64 Paper Mario]]'', ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'', and ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory'' are all beloved and have extremely loyal fanbases. The biggest example, however, is ''VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor'', though it is affected by HypeBacklash in some circles since most of its vindication was caused by backlash to ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar''. |
| 243 | * SelfFanservice: |
| 244 | ** Mario is short and pudgy, with a big nose and a bushy mustache, but some fanworks feature a far more conventionally attractive Mario. At best he'll still be recognizably himself, big nose, mustache and all, but drawn in a way that downplays his goofiness, and makes his proportions more in line with the princesses. At worse, he'll be the most generic looking bishonen in existence that ''maybe'' has a bit of peach fuzz on his upper lip. Luigi, of course, gets hit with it as well. |
| 245 | ** Oddly enough, the [[InvertedTrope inverse]] is also often seen, and for every fanwork that portrays Mario as a pretty boy, there's one that portrays him as an obese, middle-aged {{Gonk}}, ostensibly in the pursuit of realism. Of course, a part of this likely stems from the common misconception that Mario's far older than he actually is. Other times, not so much, describing him as way fatter and/or uglier than he usually is. |
| 246 | * SelfImposedChallenge: It is possible to get through the original ''Super Mario Bros.'' in a PacifistRun, without directly hurting any enemy. |
| 247 | * SequelDifficultyDrop: ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'', compared to ''The Lost Levels'', at least. It's still harder than the original ''VideoGame/{{Super Mario Bros|1}}.'' though. |
| 248 | * SequelDifficultySpike: ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosTheLostLevels'', compared to the original ''VideoGame/{{Super Mario Bros|1}}.'' And ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2'', compared to the first ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy''. ''VideoGame/NewSuperLuigiU'' is a fair bit harder than ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosU''. |
| 249 | * ShipMates: Mario/Peach and Luigi/Daisy. |
| 250 | * ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Despite them barely having any interactions in the main series, there are a surprising amount of [[https://youtu.be/1lGlK0CH_Co Bowser/Rosalina shippers]], due to the fact that not only do they both gain mutual benefits out of it, with Bowser getting his hands on a ruler while Rosalina gets someone to care for the Lumas alongside her, but it also comes with the stipulation of Peach no longer getting kidnapped. |
| 251 | * ShipToShipCombat: As expected from a popular series, there is a lot of this. Mario/Peach vs Bowser/Peach is by far the most common however Mario/Pauline vs Mario/Peach and Rosalina/Luigi vs Daisy/Luigi are also debated. |
| 252 | * SmurfetteBreakout: Female characters usually prove to be very popular. |
| 253 | ** Princess Peach is probably the most famous female character in all of video gaming. She proved to be popular enough to get quickly PromotedToPlayable in the American ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2'' and later on receive her own spin-off game: ''VideoGame/SuperPrincessPeach''. The game was well received, though criticized for using the HystericalWoman trope as the main gameplay mechanic. In any cases, she never missed a single spin-off multiplayer game[[note]]except for ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros64'', which isn't even technically a ''Mario'' game[[/note]] and proved to be quite the ActionGirl in some of them, ([[https://youtu.be/zip4qJqhpzQ?t=11s especially]] in the ''VideoGame/MarioStrikers'' series and ''VideoGame/PrincessPeachShowtime''). |
| 254 | ** Toadette seems to be heading this way as off late. Initially, she only appeared in spin-off games and there was even a [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome six year period where she didn't appear in any games at all]]. She got her first playable single-player game in ''Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker'' and later got appearances in main Mario titles like ''Mario Odyssey'' and ''New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe''. She also stands out due to her feminine appearance, [[InexplicablyIdenticalIndividuals which is more than can be said about Toads in general]]. |
| 255 | ** Rosalina was such a popular character that she was quickly added to the playable roster of the next ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' game after her debut, long before many of the series‘ older characters such as Toad, Daisy, and Waluigi got the chance. She also became a playable character in the mainline series game ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'' a few years after her debut, the same game which had only the second playable appearance of even Princess Peach in a mainline ''Mario'' game, despite Peach being around for about thirty years longer than her, and several older characters such as Waluigi still never being playable in the main series up to that point. She also became a popular mainstay in most of the SpinOff Mario games at the same time. |
| 256 | ** Pauline became extremely popular after her [[TheBusCameBack reappearance]] in ''Super Mario Odyssey'', to the point that she practically became the face of the game despite only appearing in one world out of many, and just like Rosalina, now frequently appears in SpinOff games as well. |
| 257 | * SophomoreSlump: This occurred within the 3D platformer series. While not hated, the second entry ''Sunshine'' is seen as easily being the weakest of the bunch. It really isn't due to ''Sunshine'' being all that bad, rather that ''64'', ''Galaxy'', and ''Odyssey'' are all so beloved within the gaming community. The other 3D games are also seen as being far above average for the genre, which unfortunately leaves ''Sunshine'' as being the clear worst entry due to its wonky controls, not quite as amazing level design, and awkward aspects of its story and voice acting. |
| 258 | * SuperCouple: Again, Mario and Peach. Their relationship is practically synonymous with video game romance, to the point that even non-fans know about them. |
| 259 | * SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The original ''Super Mario Bros.'' compared to ''VideoGame/MarioBros''. |
| 260 | * TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: |
| 261 | ** Although Waluigi and Daisy have mixed reception, there are a plenty of fans that feel they are interesting characters in their own right and feel that Nintendo should let them appear in future main games (Daisy debuted in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioLand'', but Waluigi only appeared in spinoffs). The fact that Rosalina was playable in ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'' made many of these fans more vocal about this. Daisy's inclusion as a playable character in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRun'' helped lessen this for her a lot, while Waluigi only featured as a Costume Mario power-up in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioMaker'' and an outfit based on him in ''VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey''. |
| 262 | ** Pauline has also been considered to be a case of this over the years as unlike Mario and Donkey Kong she never got her own game series. Not only do certain fans wish she appeared more often in the game titles, but some even ship her with Mario (in which they often point out Nintendo [[ImpliedLoveInterest never did confirm]] whether if Mario and Peach are an OfficialCouple or not). Her appearance in ''Super Mario Odyssey'', not only to made her return to the ''Mario'' franchise, but earned a new role as a mayor rather than a damsel-in-distress. |
| 263 | ** Kamella, the Magikoopa boss from '' VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy '', seemed like a mainline substitute for Kammy Koopa from the ''Paper Mario'' series. After the entire ''Mario'' franchise was hit with mandates[[note]]which encouraged higher useage of mainline characters while going out of their way to ban non-first party modified members of mainline species from returning,[[/note]] which hit ''Paper Mario'' the hardest, Kamella seemed like a perfect character to take over for Kammy in the ''Paper Mario'' series in the interim. Instead, Kamek took the role, and was also written in an out-of-character way in his first two ''Paper Mario'' games that, though some fans liked, required him to not notice Bowser acting strange- roles that would have made much more sense for Kamella, who doesn't have as much known history with Bowser. While most mainliner friendly species and characters have also been hit with this strange non-inclusion from modern ''Paper Mario'', Kamella is especially noticeable in that regard. |
| 264 | * UglyCute: Goombas. Yeah, they want to kill Mario and look menacing with their angry eyes and fangs, but they're so helpless and weak that fans find them adorable and even sympathetic. |
| 265 | * UnfortunateCharacterDesign: Toad giving you the finger in the original ''[[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros1 Super Mario Bros.]]'' |
| 266 | * UnintentionalUncannyValley: Because Nintendo loves recycling old renders of ''Mario'' characters, especially from the Gamecube onwards, seeing such renders from that era mixed in with those from the [=DS/Wii=], [=3DS/Wii U=], and Switch, can produce a very jarring effect, as it can lead to a mishmash of outdated and newer renders (Especially since the Gamecube renders have desaturated lighting and flat textures). Granted, during each era, Nintendo would usually update old renders or make new ones with brighter colors, smoother shading, more realistic textures, and better lighting. ''VideoGame/MarioSportsSuperstars'' is the worst offender when it comes to this, as aside from recycling a bunch of old renders, [[https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/e/e1/MSS_amiibo_Soccer_Bowser.jpg one of the amiibo cards]] released for this game garnered infamy for using a render of Bowser from ''VideoGame/DanceDanceRevolutionMarioMix'' with a generic render of Luigi running that was first used in ''VideoGame/MarioTennisOpen'' in the background, which resulted in both artstyles clashing too much. |
| 267 | * UnpopularPopularCharacter: |
| 268 | ** In-Universe, Luigi isn't as popular or as well received as Mario is, leading to a bit of a "second banana" complex. However, he's really popular among the fanbase. |
| 269 | ** Waluigi isn't really well-liked In-Universe either, but a sizeable portion of the fanbase genuinely likes him. Mostly through MemeticMutation. |
| 270 | * VanillaProtagonist: Mario was designed to be an extremely accessible character who can fit any role. He himself has a pretty basic personality aside from his cheerfulness, but it's the colorful world he inhabits and the challenges he faces that provides the true meat of the series. |
| 271 | * ViewerPronunciationConfusion: |
| 272 | ** Bowser's name is sometimes mispronounced as "bohzer", but the actual pronunciation is "bao-ser". |
| 273 | ** VideoGame/{{Wario}}'s name is officially pronounced "wah-ree-oh" across languages, rhyming with "Mario," owing to it being a portmanteau of Mario's name and the Japanese word "warui" (meaning "bad"). Despite this, many people often read it as "warr-ee-oh" (similarly to "warrior"), or "warry-ee-oh" ("warry" rhyming with "marry"). |
| 274 | ** The Bob-omb enemy also trips up many people, as ''Film/SuperMarioBros1993'' indicates it is pronounced "buh-BOMB", not "BOB-omb", as the spelling suggests. |
| 275 | * TheWoobie: |
| 276 | ** Luigi, being the ButtMonkey and all. |
| 277 | ** Bowser is shown in this light in the [=RPGs=], barring ''VideoGame/PaperMario'', but especially ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory Bowser's Inside Story]].'' |
| 278 | * {{Woolseyism}}: The first ''[[VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG Mario]]'' [[VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG RPG]] was translated by [[TropeNamers Ted Woolsey]] himself. Since then, the ''VideoGame/PaperMario'' and ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi'' series have done their localizations in a style not unlike Woolsey. |
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