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7* {{Adorkable}}:
8** Elesa's attempts to invoke PungeonMaster end up dive bombing her into this.
9** Iris tries to look badass in her pre-battle animation by re-enacting a dragon's roar.
10** Curtis. As he gets to know Rosa on a personal level, he begins to open up, and for someone who is a rather famous and popular TV/Radio host, he's surprisingly insecure and not at all conceited.
11* AnnoyingVideoGameHelper: Now manifests in Bianca, who drags you halfway across the starting town in order to push you through one of the series' traditional forced tutorials.
12* AntiClimaxBoss: The boss battle against Kyurem. Being a Legendary Dragon that absorbed the version mascot would make you think quite a challenge awaits you, especially considering they have the highest (Special) Attack stat of any non-event Pokémon in this generation. Except this game is loaded with the some of the strongest Fighting-types in the series, including the Mienfoo line, the Musketeer trio and the Riolu line. And all of them have high attacking power and, with the exception of Lucario, all of them are faster than Kyurem.
13* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: The previous games already boasted high quality graphics, but it seems as if Game Freak went out of their way to make the graphics of the sequel even ''more'' detailed. The overworld sprites have more frames of animation given to them, the general 2D artwork has more dynamic shading, and each individual trainer class that you encounter now have their own unique battle animations. Especially considering this is the final [=2D=] Pokémon game in the mainline series before switching to [=3D=].
14* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[AwesomeMusic/{{Pokemon}} Look here]].
15* BaseBreakingCharacter: [[BaseBreakingCharacter/{{Pokemon}} Shares a page with the rest of the franchise.]]
16* BestBossEver: The final battle against Champion Iris is insanely awesome, from the amazing background (which is something like fighting on a stream of lights against a starry sky) to the energetic music and the battle itself as she has a whole team of pretty tough Pokémon which can be incredibly fun to battle against, especially on Challenge Mode where those Pokémon get buffed up with items and 100-120 and even 150 power STAB attacks.
17* BestLevelEver: The Pokémon World Tournament (PWT) is often cited as a selling point for the games. It's a battle facility where the player can challenge ''all'' of the Gym Leaders and Champions in the series up to Gen V, including the ever-popular [[MemeticBadass Red]]. Not only that, but the tournaments are available in a variety of formats and styles (including a unique ruleset where you and the opponent exchange a Pokémon with each other), can be played as many times as desired, and can be used to grind for BP.
18* BreatherBoss:
19** Once again, Skyla is a huge pushover, especially considering there are a lot more options for Electric-types much earlier in the game this time.
20** Any difficulty Roxie poses early on gets virtually thrown out the window once the player acquires a Magnemite, which are quite easy to find right outside of her local town. On Challenge Mode she gets a Grimer with the moves Mud-Slap (which is doubly super effective against Magnemite and lowers accuracy, and Sonicboom can be iffy with that) and Disable (which can disable the last move you use), but it's still more than doable.
21** Marlon comes in the middle of the end game after several difficult battles against Drayden, Hugh, and Team Plasma, and ends up being much easier than the aforementioned battles due to his much more exploitable team. The only real cause of concern is the bulky nature of his Jellicent and Carracosta, and even then, it's only an issue of being walled rather than being at a genuine disadvantage.
22* BrokenBase: [[BrokenBase/{{Pokemon}} Shares a page with the rest of the franchise.]]
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28* ClicheStorm: The movies in general. Stereotypical villains, strange machines with weird powers, giant monsters and the like, a stereotypically selfless protagonist; you name any old movie cliché, Pokéstar Studios most likely has it. Based on the [[{{Narm}} sheer]] [[HamAndCheese cheesiness]] of the movies and the [[ComicalOverreacting gross overreactions]] of the fans, it's likely this is [[NarmCharm intentional]].
29* ContestedSequel: Some consider these to be among the best (if not ''the'' best) games in the franchise for their sheer amount of content and features, for their direct-sequel nature making them more tantalizing than the usual UpdatedRerelease, and for having a massive and well-distributed regional Dex. Others criticize the games for suffering from [[BonusFeatureFailure poor design that relies too much on local and (now defunct) Wi-Fi communication for their bonus features]], for not doing enough to endear players to the story or characters unlike their predecessors, and for having an awkward regional Dex that seems to say, "we're saving all your favorites for ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''!". In a rare case for this franchise, they are also a ''literal'' contested sequel for the original ''Black and White''. For pairs of games that are ''both'' considered the high point of the series by differing sections of fans, you can imagine that these arguments get nasty.
30* CultClassic: Comparatively speaking. ''Black 2'' and ''White 2'' are among the most ignored and least widely recognized ''Pokémon'' games overall and only barely sold more than other third-version games except for ''Yellow'', making them the worst-selling original paired titles in the series (if still incredible sellers compared to most other series). The main reasons for this are because the games came out quite literally at the end of the life cycle of the DS and were overshadowed by the VideoGame3DLeap that ''Pokémon X and Y'' (the newest games on the new 3DS) did a year later. However, they're also considered to be among, if not ''the'' greatest games in the series by devoted fans.
31* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[EnsembleDarkhorse/{{Pokemon}} See here.]]
32%%* EvilIsCool: Colress unabashedly cares about nothing but completing his research. No matter what he has to, be it good or bad, be it freezing a whole city of people, be it working for a bunch of criminals, if it gets him the answers he'll seek, he'll do it. Naturally this has made Colress one of the most popular villains in the series as well as one of its most enduring characters, to the point that he even appears in the Alola games! Ghetsis is also this to a lesser extent.
33* FanDislikedExplanation:
34** [[spoiler: N is confirmed to not be Ghetsis's biological son, and wasn't stolen from his actual parents either.]] [[BrokenBase Some fans]] find this to be a rather underwhelming reveal after the climax of the last game.
35** The Shadow Triad are not the Striaton Trio, as evidenced by the flashback that shows all of them together in one room. [[BrokenBase Some fans are not happy with this]], and insist that [[UnreliableExpositor the trio was just lying]]. It doesn't help that the Triad themselves admit they had no real reason for visiting; they may as well have said they're just showing up to {{Joss|ed}} the theories.
36* FanNickname:
37** "[[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Hilda 2]]"/"[[Franchise/StarWars Princess Leia]]"/"Franchise/SailorMoon" for Rosa; "Pineapple Hair" and "Palm Tree" for Nate.
38** [[Anime/YuGiOh "Mako Tsunami"]] and [[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries Freaky Fish Guy]] for Marlon, due to sharing similar visual and aquatic themes. Sometimes Blaquaman in reference to his incredible tan.
39** Poké[[UsefulNotes/NewJersey Jersey]] For the expanded part of Unova.
40** Due to the sinister facial expression in his artwork, some people have started calling Colress [[EvilCounterPart Evil Elm]]. Or Professor [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil Wesker]]. After the promo, some even liken him to [[VideoGame/BlazBlue Relius]] due to his [[Creator/JunichiSuwabe seiyuu]].
41*** Or Internet Explorer, [[ImprobableHairstyle thanks to his hair.]]
42** Roxie has also been called Vicky. ([[WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents "Icky" with a V.]])
43** The rival has one of a sort. After a demo on ''Pokémon Smash!'' had the girl playing the game naming the rival "[[RepetitiveName Hihihiroshi]]" as a joke, some fans thought it was the rival's official name. Even after the misunderstanding was cleared up, fans adopted the silly name until the official name, Hugh, arrived. Sadly, you can't name him this in the English translation due to CharacterNameLimits.
44** On Pixiv, Bianca with her new design has a tag that refers to her as "Beru[[{{Meganekko}} megane]]."
45** A perusal of the game's music files would imply that the devteam had nicknamed Black Kyurem "Kyurom" and White Kyurem "Kyuram".
46** The Therian formes of Thundurus, Tornadus, and Landorus are referred to as Thundurus-T, Tornadus-T, and Landorus-T
47** Black Kyurem and White Kyurem are referred to as Kyurem-B and Kyurem-W, respectively. Kyurem-B is also occasionally referred to as "Kyube".
48** Ass Trainer for the female Ace Trainer, due to her butt-shaking animation.
49* GameBreaker:
50** Magnemite, available before fighting Roxie early in the game, has the Electric/Steel typing that grants a massive amount of resistances and an immunity. When combined with decent bulk, this makes it very hard for opponents to take out. This is before taking the buffed Sturdy into account, which prevents it from being KO'd from full health. Magnemite also has a high Special Attack stat relative to how early you can find it and becomes even stronger upon evolving. Its good matchup against most Gym Leaders and other important opponents (e.g. if playing ''Black 2'' it resists every attack Black Kyurem has) means it can practically carry you through the game.
51** You can easily grind up the levels of the shops in Join Avenue as soon as you get there by rapidly trading Magnemite with other players on the GTS, or by simply visiting other people via the Dream World. With just a few dojos/diners and the [[MoneyForNothing giant surplus of money]] you usually get in Pokémon games (Amulet Coin helps), you can remove any semblance of effort from the rest of the game.
52** Just like the Arceus event in ''Pokémon [=HeartGold=]'' and ''Pokémon [=SoulSilver=]'', playing on a Nintendo 3DS and using Pokémon Dream Radar with a Generation IV game lets you get a Level 5 [[OlympusMons Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Lugia or Ho-Oh]] for use in the game with its Hidden Ability[[note]]which is especially helpful for Ho-Oh and Lugia since they get the very useful Regenerator and Multiscale, respectively[[/note]] and your own Trainer ID,[[note]]which allows the Pokémon to obey you regardless of how many gym badges you have[[/note]] which gives you a very powerful DiscOneNuke that continues to dominate later on in the game since its stats are higher than ''anything'' else you can obtain during the story due to Reshiram/Zekrom and Kyurem being locked away until the postgame. The best part is that this method doesn't rely on the now-defunct Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection or a second DS system, unlike other ways of obtaining older Legendary Pokémon -- although the Gen IV games themselves can get fairly expensive online nowadays, especially the Johto ones.
53** Genesect as a result of a Wi-Fi event for it with the release of ''Black 2/White 2'', allowing players to obtain one at Level 15 at the very start of the game. Even at that relatively low level, it massively outstrips every opponent in the early parts of the game -- although you do need at least one badge to get it to obey you.
54* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Black Kyurem is more popular in the West for being a Kyurem that is fused with the badass manly and ''gigantic-armed'' Zekrom.
55* GoddamnedBats: Pokémon Breeders now will rematch you with the Pokémon levels same as before whenever you walk in front of them. This gets really annoying when you're trying to get through an area you've already been to and beaten the trainers.
56* GoodBadBugs: Pokémon Breeders will rematch the player if they reenter that route. It also applies to Small Court and Big Stadium. If a Breeder pops up there, one can beat it, get a Rare Candy, leave and come back for another fight and another Rare Candy.
57%%** Like in ''Black and White'', Trick Room doesn't apply to Pokémon who have a Speed of 1809 or higher.
58* HarsherInHindsight:
59** One of the Shadow Triad, as well as Ghetsis, mention that if N had simply become King of Team Plasma and "liberated" the Pokemon/Ghetsis's first plan succeeded, Unova would've remained beautiful without his adoptive father having to use Kyurem to freeze over the region. Well, [[VideoGame/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon as an alternate Unova shows]], [[TheBadGuyWins THAT is what exactly happens if Hilbert and/or Hilda weren't around to stop Ghetsis's plan of Unova with everyone's Pokemon forcibly taken from their Trainers via "liberation"]].
60** One of the possible Ferris Wheel scenes involves a businessman taking a break in front of the Nimbasa ferris wheel, which has been run down and neglected since its first appearance. Because of this, his company plans to tear it down because it doesn't get business anymore. This was the fate of Japan's iconic [[https://soranews24.com/2022/08/26/tokyos-giant-ferris-wheel-is-closing-for-good-so-its-time-for-one-last-ride【video】/ Giant Sky Wheel]], which ended its run on August 31, 2022.
61* HilariousInHindsight: [[HilariousInHindsight/{{Pokemon}} Check the main page.]]
62* HoYay: When recommending shops in the Join Avenue to guests, some will specifically want to go to one with a male or female clerk. Both preferences are not exclusive to any gender.
63* InferredHolocaust: Just how many people in Opelucid City died after the aforementioned city was frozen? Once the city thaws out, all of the [=NPCs=] the player could speak to before this happened are shown to be fine, but this leaves some room for a few off-screen deaths.
64* ItsEasySoItSucks:
65** Prior to the humongous PowerCreep and the presence of the new Exp. Share in [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Generation VI]], these games had arguably gotten it the worst, mostly claiming that "no opponents in the main game are a challenge", especially the Gym Leaders, Elite Four and Champion. But those people might be oblivious to the content that the first two generations had that made them easy to get through (Psychic-types and glitches in Gen I, Feraligatr in Gen II, etc).
66** This is the main reason why ''White 2'' sells far less than ''Black 2''. The former has access to the Easy Mode key while the latter gets the ever-coveted Challenge Mode key. [[ScrappyMechanic To add insult to injury, these keys can only be obtained after defeating the Elite Four.]]
67* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A major point of criticism of ''Black 2'' and ''White 2'' was that, despite being positioned as fully-fledged sequels to ''Black'' and ''White'', they felt like {{Mission Pack Sequel}}s that reused a lot of content from their predecessors, and also reverted to a more formulaic plot setup after ''BW'' shook up the formula a bit.
68* JustHereForGodzilla: Some fans who prefer the first set of games mostly play the sequels to keep up with the competitive scene, or to get the new Pokémon formes such as Black/White Kyurem and the Therian Genies.
69* MagnificentBastard:
70** [[MadScientist Colress]] is the [[DragonInChief acting leader]] of [[Characters/PokemonBlackAndWhiteTeamPlasma Team Plasma]]. A scientist looking for the best way to bring out a Pokémon's strength, Colress travels across Unova and battles trainers to craft a theory for him to test out. As part of Team Plasma, Colress invents a machine to maximize the full extent of Kyurem's power and fire it upon the world, freezing Opelucid City in the process. Admitting that he doesn't care about his cruel actions, Colress engages the protagonist in battle to test out his theory on hidden potential and upon defeat allows them to face off against Ghetsis to develop his theories more. Showing no loyalty to Team Plasma or Ghetsis, Colress is such a [[AffablyEvil nice person]] that it is easy to forget that he never regrets almost destroying Unova.
71** Pokéstar Studios films:
72*** ''Brycen-Man'' series: [[CardCarryingVillain Brycen-Man]] is an ambitious and [[EvilIsHammy hammy]] supervillain who seeks to TakeOverTheWorld. After his first defeat to the Riolu Kid, Brycen-Man attacks a pier as a front to steal a powerful black diamond from within an ocean liner. Though the Lucario Kid stalls him and the liner departs, Brycen-Man manages to steal the diamond anyway by [[RefugeInAudacity swimming after the liner]], using it to build his Brycen Jet and give himself tremendous power. In the final showdown against the Lucario Kid, Brycen-Man is weakened due to the diamond's effects and accepts his apparent end, but the Kid's genuine admiration for him convinces him to declare them his [[ArchEnemy archrival]].
73*** ''Invaders'' series: [[WellIntentionedExtremist E]] is an [[HumanoidAliens alien]] whose home planet was destroyed by a supernova, leaving the remaining members of her species homeless. Seeking to [[KillAllHumans destroy all life on Earth]] so her people can inhabit it, E leads [=UFOs=] into the Unova region to attack people and Pokémon. Disguising as a human, E convinces the player, a member of the Unova Defense Force, to help set up a decoy UFO to lead the aliens' mothership to Earth and humanity to extermination. E is eventually forced to leave when the mothership sees Earth as dangerous, but keeps the player’s proposal for the two species to coexist in mind. In the worst endings of the final movie, E instead takes advantage of the player's emotions and turns them into her servant to assist the aliens in world conquest.
74* MemeticBadass: After the animated trailer, Nate became regarded as the most badass protagonist since [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Red]].
75* MemeticMutation:
76** Once people began to realize that the new parts of Unova are based on UsefulNotes/NewJersey, the Jersey Shore jokes started flooding in. Poké fist pumps!
77** A [=CoroCoro=] scan features Volkner and Steven next to each other. Due to the unfortunate placement, it looked like Volkner was grinding up against Steven. Thus, Steven/Volker became a popular pairing on /vp/ within minutes. Also, referring to Steven's [[UnusualEuphemism "steel spoon."]]
78** A piece of FanArt has Rosa posing for a picture, while the screen of the picture-taker's phone can be seen [[MaleGaze zoomed entirely on her chest]]. A meme has emerged of this image showing a quote or message superimposed over Rosa, with the phone repeating one portion that many people usually focus on in real life, often ignoring critical context found in the whole of the message.
79* {{Moe}}:
80** Many fans adore Rosa's donut-shaped eyes and [[GirlishPigtails cute]] [[OdangoHair hairstyle]].
81** Bianca has [[{{Meganekko}} glasses]] now. If there was ever any doubt before...
82** Yancy, the girl from the lost Xtransceiver sidequest, is just downright adorable.
83* MisBlamed: Before the English release of the games, many non-Japanese-speaking fans mistranslated [[spoiler: Ghetsis's threat to freeze the player alive as a threat to kill him/her by impaling him/her with Kyurem's icicles]], which wouldn't be too [[MoralEventHorizon out-of-character]] [[KnightOfCerebus for him]], and it became very widely accepted that ''that's what actually happens in the game''. This made the English dialogue look like a NeverSayDie {{Bowdleri|se}}zation at first.[[note]]In English: "I'll freeze you solid right here so you can watch my glorious ascent!"; in Japanese: "You will be frozen here and see the end of Unova!"[[/note]] Despite this, in some ways the implications of what happens are ''still'' arguably [[FateWorseThanDeath worse than]] [[AndIMustScream the misconception]]...
84* MoralEventHorizon: Ghetsis becomes the first BigBad in the main series' games to ever [[spoiler:try to outright ''physically harm'' the protagonist, attempting to freeze them alive using Kyurem's Glaciate]], with his only reasoning being that he/she was getting in his way. [[spoiler:The original fan assumption that Ghetsis tried to ''kill'' the player in the Japanese version made him look even ''worse'' to some.]]
85* {{Narm}}:
86** The music in Roxie's gym. Chanting "P-O-K-É-M-O-N"[[note]]in Japanese, "D-O-G-A-R-S", the Japanese name for Koffing[[/note]] non-stop isn't exactly the first thing that comes to people's minds when they think "underground punk rocker." The incredibly forced "ON" in Pokemon doesn't help.
87** Thanks to some dodgy writing, your rival's motivation to fight Team Plasma does come off as a bit petty and childish most of the time. Also, "I'm about to unleash my rage!" is hardly the best of catchphrases.
88** The Champion's battle sprite looks somewhat daft (may be Narm Charm for some though).
89* NightmareFuel:
90** The Stranger's House, which is basically an even more ominous and oppressing version of [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl the Old Chateau]].
91** Castelia Gym for those uncomfortable with clowns and webs; It even provides the best of both worlds by having one of the Harlequins randomly popping out of a cocoon.
92** One particularly unsettling instance occurs in Lostlorn Forest. A backpacker staring at a rock (very likely the same one who warned you about the disguised Zoroark from the first game) will ask you about the Pokémon Zoroark and then give you the [=TM95=] Snarl. He'll then talk about Zoroark's visit to the forest two years ago and talk about its devious ability to create illusions. [[spoiler: Then just as he's walking out, he suddenly transforms into a Zoroark -- much to not only yours, but your character's surprise as well - and runs off immediately.]]
93** [[spoiler: Ghetsis trying to use Kyurem to freeze the player character alive a la Master Xehanort from ''Franchise/KingdomHearts''.]] The animation in the scene makes it even ''scarier'' due to the [[spoiler:floating chunks of ice spinning around and hurtling towards the hero at high speed; imagine what that would look like in real life.]] To some, [[spoiler:the scene was even scarier back when the games were untranslated and fans didn't know what the characters were saying; it looked like ''Kyurem was actually going to brutally impale the player using pointed icicles''. To others, what it was actually going to do was even scarier!]]
94** On that note, [[spoiler: the [[FateWorseThanDeath ultimate fate]] of Ghetsis himself, who loses his mind so entirely that he is reduced to a catatonic, non-functioning vegetable in the immediate aftermath of the game.]] ''Thoroughly'' deserved, but no less unfathomably horrible.
95** Some of the Bad and Strange endings to some of the Pokéstar movies can be quite creepy, [[TheManyDeathsOfYou many even implied to result in the death of the player.]]
96*** The Bad ending to the first of the Timegate Traveler movies has the time machine exploding, followed by [[spoiler:the main character discovering that ''they have merged with their Solosis''.]]
97*** The villain for The Red Mist of Terror is pretty much an EldritchAbomination. Even its humanoid minions are unsettlingly creepy. It even has one of its spawn use Selfdestruct/Explosion ''just to hamper you''. Needless to say, its endings can be quite disturbing as well, the Strange Ending of one movie even resulting in [[IAmAHumanitarian the player cannibalizing a helpless woman.]]
98* ObviousJudas: Colress is dressed in the colors of Team Plasma (blue, black and white), is usually met in areas where Team Plasma have been operating, and is constantly talking about how his research is about drawing out the true potential of Pokémon no matter what it takes. Players are thus seldom surprised when it's revealed that he's the one Ghetsis replaced N with as acting leader of Team Plasma.
99* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap:
100** Initially, some fans disliked Nate and Rosa. But after the animated trailer, some fans warmed up to them.
101** Initially criticized for [[UndergroundMonkey looking exactly the same]], lots of people warmed up to the Kami trio after the reveal of their distinct, imaginative, and outright ''cool'' Therian Formes; instead of three identical genies, we get a bird, a dragon, and a tiger.
102** Many fans didn't like the fact that Zorua and Zoroark were event exclusives back in the original ''Black and White'' despite not having a Legendary/Mythical status. From this game onward, they aren't event exclusives anymore; Rood gives away N's Zorua in Driftveil City after you defeat him.
103* SacredCow: Thanks to being VindicatedByHistory, the games are treated this way in some VocalMinority circles such as [[Website/FourChan /vp/]], to the point that the games' defenders oft forget their various flaws.
104* SalvagedGameplayMechanic:
105** After the backlash over the lack of older Pokémon in the ''BW'' Unova Dex, the New Unova Dex was very well-received by the fandom and, for many people, helped the Gen V Pokémon feel like a more organic part of the franchise. It helps that many of the new (old?) additions were already fan-favorites in their own right, such as the Eeveelutions, Lucario,[[note]]which went on to become one of the most-used Pokémon in the game due to its early availability, usefulness and popularity[[/note]] Tyranitar, Heracross and Metagross, not to mention that ''even more'' National Dex Pokémon are available during the post-game.
106** The sequels also have considerably better post-game content compared to its predecessor. This includes more available legendary Pokémon to capture, access to more locations such as the Nature Preserve, being able to rebattle N after speaking with him at the Ferris Wheel on Fridays [[note]]though he can only be rebattled once every season, with his Pokémon team changing to correspond with that specific season (for example, in the winter, his team consists of ice-types)[[/note]], and newer challenges in the Pokémon World Tournament (most notably being able to challenge the gym leaders and champions from previous games like Lance and Red).
107** For the first time since ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Emerald]]'', you're finally given an actual reward for completing the Pokédex. If you've ''seen'' all the Unova Pokémon (excluding Mythicals), you'll be given access to the Nature Preserve which has a shiny Haxorus you can capture. If you've ''captured'' all the Unova Pokémon, you'll be given an oval charm which'll increase the chances of there being an egg at day care. If you've captured ''every single Pokémon'' in the National Dex (again, excluding Mythicals), you'll be given a shiny charm which'll increase the chances of finding a shiny Pokémon in the wild.
108** In the first games, Zorua and Zoroark could only be captured via transferring event Celebi, Raikou, Entei, and Suicune, essentially rendering them as Mythical Pokémon when they aren't. Here, a Zorua is given to you as a gift.
109* ScrappyMechanic:
110** The Pokémon Breeder trainer class' new gimmick is to challenge you every time you re-enter the route they're on. It wouldn't be nearly as bad if they didn't retain their normal line of sight, which ends up making traversing old routes a bit of a chore. On the other hand, the battles are typically quick and easy, making them convenient for training lower level {{Mon}}s.
111** At last, there's a Hard Mode to make ''Pokémon'' difficult without players having to rely on [[SelfImposedChallenge self-imposed challenges]]! Except only ''Black 2'' gets it. And only after you've already beaten all of the gym leaders and the Elite Four. And you can't unlock it and then restart the game with it. But wait, you can receive the "Challenge Key" from other players! ''Except'' there's a restriction on using Wi-Fi, so you'll have to use the DS's infrared port. Don't know someone else with ''Black 2'', or are unwilling to purchase a second DS and copy of the game? Sucks to be you! What makes it all the more frustrating is that this comes after the games have made it ''easier'' to trade Pokémon between versions, making it appear completely arbitrary.
112** Grinding the Hidden Grottos is ''very'' time consuming. Particularly when your trying to catch the rare Pokémon that can only pop up within these Grottos. Refreshing the Grottos to get a new object to appear is only a 5% chance every 256 steps. Meaning that you could very easily walk over 5000 steps only to find out that the Hidden Grotto ''still'' hasn't refreshed. To make matters worse, you then have to deal with bypassing another random check where you need to hope that the rare Pokémon your searching for appears as the object within the Hidden Grotto rather than items or other Pokémon. The absolute worst search is the Pinsir/Heracross version exclusives where the opposite can only be caught within Lostlorn Forest's Hidden Grotto. Along with the mentioned 5% chance every 256 steps to try to refresh the Grotto, the exclusive Pinsir or Heracross only has a .75% chance of actually appearing within the Grotto compared to everything else.
113%%** Once again, the EXP system still plays hell on grinding.
114%%** The C-Gear also returns, with essentially identical functionality.
115* SelfFanservice: Like Hilda, Rosa's older (but still very young and cute) design attracted a lot of lusty fan art, most of which greatly exaggerates the size of her breasts.
116* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: While the two still don't interact in the game, Volkner making an appearance strengthened the Elesa/Volkner "beautiful electric gym leader" pairing. A step up from him ''not'' appearing in the prequel however.
117* SpiritualSuccessor: ''Black 2'' and ''White 2'' are loose equivalents to ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'' in that they serve as direct sequels to a fresh generation, add more Pokémon to the regional Pokédex, and make many of their predecessors' early areas visitable in the postgame. The main differences are that ''[=B2W2=]'' take place in the same region as their predecessors and are part of the same generation, and the "new" Pokémon introduced are actually older Pokémon not native to Unova.
118* ThatOneAchievement: Getting 10 followers in Pokémon Musicals. What ''sounds'' like a relatively innocuous Medal requirement is actually much more hassle than it's worth. In order to get the 10th follower, you must get 12,000 cumulative popularity points, which, if you were to perfectly win every Musical you partake in, would be, at minimum, 120 Musicals' worth of popularity points before you can finally get your tenth follower.
119* ThatOneBoss: The battle against Iris on Challenge Mode is one of the hardest Champion matches in the series alongside [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Cynthia]]. Not only does she specialize in Dragon types, which are very powerful by themselves, but two of her Pokémon resist Ice moves, thus circumventing the rest of her team's main weakness. The two biggest threats are Hydreigon, which has the same moveset as [[ThatOneBoss Ghetsis']] in the prequel ''and'' is also equipped with an item that boosts special attacks; and Haxorus, which will quickly boost its own stats with Dragon Dance before using highly damaging moves like Earthquake and Outrage to wipe out the player's party.
120* ThatOneSidequest:
121** The Yancy/Curtis Xtransceiver sidequest, mostly for being riddled with GuideDangIt just to be able to contact them[[note]]It requires the player to walk over several very easy-to-miss panels over the course of the game in order for them to call. At least half of the possible panels have no reason or lure for the player to walk over.[[/note]] and generally resulting in nothing major up until the player has called them back 15 times. Your reward for all the trouble? The ability to trade them any ComMons for extremely rare mons that not only are unavailable anywhere else, but also have their Dream World abilities. Anyone with steady access to the GTS will likely pass this one up, though.
122*** However, with Nintendo Wifi Connection being no longer operational, it can make this feature useful again, especially for those who have little to no access to the Generation IV games. Amplified, given the prices of games like ''Platinum'', ''[=HeartGold=]'', and ''[=SoulSilver=]'' on the secondhand market.
123** Earning one of the stars for the Trainer Card requires getting a good ending for almost every movie in Pokéstar Studios, but this is a lot tougher than it sounds. Filming ranges from either somewhat annoying to LuckBasedMission because you are often at the whim of the AI's choices and other RNG shenanigans, which can screw up your filming attempt with just one out-of-place move.
124** Getting an Oval Stone to evolve that Happiny you hatch in the post-game is quite difficult. Especially for ''Black 2'' players. In ''White 2'', you're required to bypass a major roadblock by having to complete the entire White Treehollow battle area in order to unlock the White Forest's fourth item-store which will finally allow you to buy an Oval Stone. Or if you're ''extremely'' patient...you can grind the caves in the hopes of finding an Oval Stone from one of the dirt encounters. In ''Black 2'', the item stores in Black City sell different items. Meaning that if you don't have someone to give you the trade key to switch Black City over to White Forest, the only way for ''Black 2'' players to get the Oval Stone is to hope to randomly find one from a cave's dirt encounter.move.
125** The only way to get Garchomp in ''any'' Generation V game without trading or transferring is to clear the Black Tower, which is ''only'' in ''Black 2'', upon which Benga will give the player a shiny Gible when visiting him in Floccessy Town. While not overly difficult, it can be time-consuming and requires very high-leveled Pokémon to complete. Although there are similar shiny reward Pokémon accessible by completing lengthy and difficult sidequests,[[note]]Dratini for the White Treehollow in ''White 2'', Haxorus for the Nature Preserve,[[/note]] others of their species can otherwise be caught normally in the games and are not version-exclusive, meaning that ''White 2'' players are screwed out of a rare and popular Pokémon with no exclusive equivalent (such as Bagon, which is only available in White Forest in the original ''White'' and only if the player is lucky enough).
126* TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
127** Some fans were infuriated when they changed the "DOGARS" chants ([[DubNameChange Koffing's Japanese name]]) in Roxie's Gym to "[[{{Woolseyism}} POKÉM-ON]]".
128** Route 10 has been destroyed due to the original Victory Road collapsing, making it inaccessible. This means that the only way to hear its music is to talk to one of the people in the house in Icirrus City where the ex-Team Rocket grunt used to be. Of course, this means that you can only listen to this song [[ScrappyMechanic during the game's Winter]].
129* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
130** The fact that you never get to battle Hilbert or Hilda, even in the PWT, especially when so many people were expecting it. There was even two text dumps found in the code of the game suggesting that a tournament match against one of the two may have been planned, but got DummiedOut.
131** A special Pokémon was stated to be found in the Nature Preserve. Even before there was word that it was a dragon, fans were excitedly hoping the Pokémon would be the Original Dragon, even if it couldn't be caught. It turned out to be just a Shiny Haxorus[[labelnote:*]]Of course, whether or not this is a genuine disappointment [[SidetrackedByTheGoldSaucer depends on the type of player]][[/labelnote]].
132** [[spoiler:The fact that N never really gets to do anything to fight against Ghetsis, and he wasn't his biological son ''or'' an orphan by way of parental kidnapping, really makes fans upset.]]
133** [[MundaneMadeAwesome The animated trailer]]. After watching it, many fans clamored for a TruerToTheText anime based around the new games to either run alongside or replace the normal anime. In the end, the normal long-runner anime was not changed, but two mini-animes were created with this concept (''Anime/PokemonOrigins'' and later ''WebAnimation/PokemonGenerations'').
134** Given that the Driftveil Drawbridge is called the "Charizard Bridge" and multiple famous Charizard trainers such as Red and Lance[[note]]although he doesn't use Charizard in these games due to stricter type restrictions[[/note]] return for the PWT, one would expect that they could tie in to it as a fun little EasterEgg, but the only change from ''BW'' is that an NPC will give the player a Heal Powder if they bring their own Charizard to the bridge. However, considering Charizard's infamous reputation for [[WolverinePublicity oversaturation]] in following generations, this may have been for the better in the long run.
135* ToughActToFollow: The [[PlayableEpilogue postgame]] of ''Black 2'' and ''White 2'' has enforced this on all future games, due to the sheer number of sidequests that can be undertaken and due to the games having no fewer than ''three'' separate battle facilities - the PWT in particular is praised as [[BestLevelEver one of the coolest postgame features in the series]]. As such, fans who judge ''Pokémon'' games based on the depth and longevity of their postgame tend to judge the subsequent 3DS entries rather harshly for not living up to the standard set by ''[=B2W2=]'', despite the fact that some of them (such as the ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire'' remakes and ''VideoGame/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon'') have decently-sized postgames in their own right.
136* UnexpectedCharacter: The Pokémon World Tournament (available after beating the main game) lets you battle ''all''[[note]]excluding Koga (Kanto Gym Leader in ''Red and Blue, Green, Yellow, [=FireRed=] and [=LeafGreen=]'') and Iris (Unova Gym Leader in ''White''; [[spoiler:Unova Champion in ''Black 2 and White 2''.]])[[/note]] the Gym Leaders and Champions in the history of the ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' franchise. It was likely a surprise [[spoiler: that even [[TheDon Giovanni]] was included here, but he is.]]
137* ViewerGenderConfusion: Colress, for the somewhat ambiguous design and name ending in "-ess".
138* {{Woolseyism}}:
139** In Roxie's Gym, she still sings DOGARS, but it's heavily overlaid with POKÉ BALL and POKÉMON in English versions.
140** The title cards of the Pokéstar Studios movies are in several languages, giving them an "international" flair and also reflecting the real world, where countries might be famous for a certain genre of movie. In text, the movies are reflected either by their translated titles or their subtitle.
141* TheWoobie:
142** The remains of the new Team Plasma in the post-game, based on this quote said by a grunt on the Plasma Frigate while it is docked at the P2 Laboratory:
143--->I knew... I knew that Ghetsis was using me... But I had friends here...
144** Kyurem. It's trapped and used as a living weapon by Team Plasma, controlled (to whatever extent) by Ghetsis, and forced to absorb N's dragon (which, according to N, could detect Kyurem's suffering), only to be beaten up by ''your'' Pokémon and separated from it again.
145** N's dragon; just watch the part where Kyurem absorbs it and it's desperately trying to fly away, and then [[YouBastard try not to feel bad]] when you merge them to use Black/White Kyurem yourself.

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