Line #11 YMMV/MonkeyIsland2LeChucksRevenge


1	* AluminumChristmasTrees:
2	** The "E Ticket" was a Ride/{{Disneyland}} admission ticket introduced in 1959 that allowed access to the newest, most advanced, and most popular rides compared to the A, B, C and D rides, using a coupon system that was phased out in the UsefulNotes/TheSeventies and UsefulNotes/TheEighties.
3	** Certain subjects referenced in the Phatt City Library have a history overlapping with or even predating UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfPiracy (1650-1720). Animatronics, cryptography, ice cream, sociology, umbrellas, xylophones, yo-yos, zirconium and zoology were known of in ancient times, Idealism goes back to Creator/{{Plato}}, origami is from the 6th century, cartoons may have an origin in TheMiddleAges, the game of shuffleboard goes back at least 500 years, toast was described in the 15th and 16th centuries, yachts were popularized in 1660, magazines were introduced around 1663-1731, Descartes' imaginary numbers and ketchup were introduced in the 17th century, Orthopedics was introduced in 1741, and Yorkshire Pudding originated from 1737-1747.
4	* ArcFatigue: A huge chunk of the game is spent on doing nothing except looking for the four map pieces to Big Whoop. With the consideration in place that getting just one map piece requires a very long string of puzzles to be solved, it can really drag, especially when some of them have MissedHimByThatMuch moments. The rest of the game, including the succeeding puzzles, are much smaller in scope.
5	* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
6	** The second game got its own [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO40r_qvKC8 intro music]], which some would argue is better than the first one.
7	*** And its [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_RP0LshcCs Special Edition version]].
8	** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjjcADiPg7A The Underground Tunnels]], a surprisingly creepy piece for this series.
9	** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXDEYu8aGuM Scabb Island map]].
10	** Stan got a new [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAu6JFZEk4U theme]] in this game, which was so great it became his new theme song for the rest of the series.
11	** The guitar riff in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwGEc2yliis this song]] is almost otherworldly.
12	** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhU2PfbUbBk This song]] is surprisingly epic too.
13	** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpVF2t39jEc Woodtick]] has a cool theme with variations for each side area and seamless transitions, including a StylisticSuck [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrEezdtNiFU piano version for when Jojo the Monkey is playing in the bar]].
14	* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The dream sequence. Okay, it is referenced later on [[spoiler:as the solution to a puzzle]] but three games and decades later, we still have no idea why it happened or [[MindScrew what the fuck it was supposed to mean]].
15	* CrossesTheLineTwice: Locking Stan up inside on of his own coffins.
16	* EvenBetterSequel: DarkerAndEdgier than the original but still with many of same ingredients plus a longer story with more islands and puzzles scattered around, adding a bit of non linear gameplay. Back in the day the GainaxEnding worked as a great SequelHook for a trilogy-conclusion game (that incidentally would take three decades to arrive).
17	* GeniusBonus: The Phatt City Library catalog refers to quite a range of topics.
18	* HilariousInHindsight:
19	** A pirate gloating about having a bucket of mud... isn't that a bit like [[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanDeadMansChest a pirate gloating about having a jar of dirt]]?
20	** "That is a nice-looking beard. One thing's for sure... [[BlatantLies I am never shaving this off]]."
21	** Guybrush's beard in the original version of this game is probably about as much of a beard as he could ever realistically hope for. The Special Edition reduces it to wispy fuzz that barely even qualifies as a beard at all, but this leads to some HilariousInHindsight moments since Guybrush spends the whole game talking about how much effort it took him to grow his beard, when it's barely even noticeable (which Wally eventually calls him out on in [[VideoGame/TheCurseOfMonkeyIsland the sequel]]).
22	** Speaking of which, Guybrush's beard and longer hair in the original version give him an odd resemblance to [[Film/ThePhantomMenace Qui-Gon Jinn]].
23	** Towards the end of the game, [=LeChuck=] claims he has a surprise for Guybrush. One if the dialog choices for a response is "I don't suppose it's a Nintendo game..." (Changed to "[=LucasArts=] game" in the Special Edition) About a decade and a half later, [[VideoGame/TalesOfMonkeyIsland Guybrush would appear on a Nintendo console]].
24	* NightmareFuel: Until [[VideoGame/TalesOfMonkeyIsland Tales]] was released, this was unquestionably the scariest of the series. For specific examples, see below.
25	** [=LeChuck=] chasing Guybrush around [[spoiler: with a voodoo doll in the tunnels beneath Dinky Island]] is terrifying. While you're desperately trying to solve the last puzzle of the game, there's this dread that at any point, [=LeChuck=] could come in and send Guybrush screaming in pain into the next room. For a little kid trying to finish the game while being forced to watch the loveable pirate being [[ColdBloodedTorture tortured]], this game is an anxiety-inducing masterpiece.
26	** Guybrush's parents come back in his dream, and then their skin melts off. Then the scene goes funny again when they start dancing. But the scene goes scary again when [=LeChuck=] shows up, turns into ''Guybrush'', and then tries to kill Guybrush the same way you killed [=LeChuck=] in the first game. It's not exactly ''Film/TheExorcist'', but it can be pretty freaky when you're a kid.
27	** The first time you enter the bolted tunnels under the waterfall. You've been enjoying the AnachronismStew up till now, but there is something just so incredibly ''wrong'' about those tunnels. Unfortunately, this stems from having to reuse the backgrounds [[spoiler:from the final area of the game]] due to the lack of disk space. [[http://mixnmojo.com/galleries/full/full20100708143833.png It was originally going to be more elaborate and less nightmare-ish.]]
28	** Dominic Armato really sells being boiled in acid in the Special Edition if you fail to solve [=LeChuck=]'s RubeGoldbergDevice quickly.
29	* NotSoCrazyAnymore: During the RubeGoldbergDevice sequence, one of the questions you can ask [=LeChuck=] is "Why are adventure games so expensive?", and his response is "Scanned VGA art is expensive." This is obviously alluding to the fact that when the game was originally released in 1991, scanning images into a computer was an extremely novel concept, and this was one of the earliest examples of a game using completely hand-painted backgrounds that were scanned (some digital cleanup was applied, of course; still, this was a major selling point when the game first came out). This used to be something much more time-consuming and tedious. Nowadays his comment can be a bit jarring if you're a contemporary player who's been used to the fact that scanners are now pretty much ''everywhere'' and affordable to the point that many own one the size of a standard sheet of paper in their own home.
30	* ParodyDisplacement: The books in the Phatt City Library reference some older or more obscure works. The parody titles obfuscate what is being referenced, and might be easier to identify if you were alive during TheSixties.
31	* PortingDisaster: In contrast to the pretty well-done Amiga port of the first game (so much so, in fact, that most Amiga fans have overwhelmingly preferred it to the original DOS version, though mileage tends to vary among people less partial to the Amiga), the Amiga port of this one was pretty lackluster. Although the smooth scrolling was a nice touch and much of the detail was retained in the backgrounds despite the smaller pallette, many background animations were lost as were extra effects, and only a very small percentage of the game's music was translated (almost less than a third, leading to silence in way more areas than should be excusable). What little music survived was pretty lackluster, and seemed really hastily cobbled together, such as Jojo's piano song which barely even sounds anything like a piano. On top of that, [=iMuse=] was entirely left out of the port, probably due to the developers having trouble figuring out how to make it with with the Amiga's limited number of sound channels.[[note]](they did later manage a passable implementation on ''VideoGame/IndianaJonesAndTheFateOfAtlantis''... which promptly proved their last Amiga game)[[/note]] Compared to the praise the original's Amiga port gets, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who will recommend this one.
32	* ScrappyMechanic: [=LeChuck=] constantly [[spoiler:using his voodoo doll to send Guybrush to some random other room or hallway]] while you're trying to solve the final puzzle. [[spoiler:Sometimes he can even show up the second Guybrush gets there.]]
33	* SpoiledByTheFormat: In the disk-swapping versions of the game, at least, such as Amiga. [=LeChuck=]'s [[ComplexityAddiction overly complicated]] DeathTrap can't possibly work -- not just because Guybrush is still alive and telling Elaine the [[FramingDevice frame story]] in-universe, but also because there's a whole disk of game left over, which [=LeChuck=] himself will lampshade if Guybrush asks [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim why he doesn't just shoot him]] instead.
34	* {{Squick}}: Seeing Governor Phatt, his grotesquely obese body lying in bed, with some ugly goo being constantly fed to him through tubes.
35	* ThatOnePuzzle: The waterfall puzzle still haunts a lot of people in their sleep, and it's a two-part puzzle that tends to stump people on either part, or both. [[spoiler:First, you need to use the banana that you find in the jail on Jojo the monkey's metronome. Then you have to transport him in a hypnotized state, and use him on the waterfall's pipes as...get ready for it...a [[{{Pun}} monkey wrench.]]]] There is absolutely no hint in-game towards how to solve this puzzle whatsoever, not even a "Maybe an unusual kind of tool might help". And, as pointed out in LostInTranslation, this frequently got even ''more'' arbitrary outside of America, as the term [[spoiler:"monkey wrench"]] is not widely used anywhere else, [[SeparatedByACommonLanguage not even other English-speaking countries]].
36	* TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
37	** A surprisingly large amount of fans were upset that the Special Edition omitted the original version's title sequence, even though it would have been slightly redundant when you can listen to the main theme in its entirety in the main menu. The Bone Song's music was also out of sync with the lyrics. A patch released on July 29 restored both the original intro and credit sequence for the classic version, as well as addressing the issues with [=iMuse=] music and sound effects and fixing the lyrical sync with the Bone Song; interestingly, the intro is fully voiced, meaning that they had at least planned on making an HD remasterization of it.
38	** Much like in [[VideoGame/TheSecretOfMonkeyIsland the game's predecessor]], the Franchise/SamAndMax cameos were removed because of copyright reasons, although like in previous game, Sam and Max do still appear in the "Classic Mode" artwork, and in the updated artwork their cameo was replaced with one in the likeness of [[VideoGame/DayOfTheTentacle Purple Tentacle]]...
39	* UnintentionalPeriodPiece:
40	** [[spoiler: Near the end of the game, the only thing that survives among a smashed up Big Whoop treasure chest is a ticket with a blue castle on it and an "E", a subtle foreshadowing to the game's ending.]] This is a pretty obvious nod to Disney theme parks' old ticket system, which were tiered from A to E (with E being the highest tier). These had already been retired for almost a decade when the game came out, but most of the target audience was still old enough to remember them being in common use or to have known of them through pop culture. Now that the parks have been several decades removed from having used them though, it can come as a headscratcher to a contemporary player (although the fact that the game [[spoiler:specifically refers to it as a ticket and it has a blue castle on it can still be a pretty good indicator of what it's supposed to resemble]]).
41	** Lines regarding the price of the game do not work as well nowadays, due to the game's price now being ten dollars, the average price of a recent, high-budget game now being sixty, and recent adventure games typically having cheaper prices.
42	* ValuesDissonance: The jokes about crossdressing - both in Largo having a 'pearly white bra' and Guybrush having to wear a dress to go to Elaine's party - might go over the head of modern players. When the game was made, crossdressing was largely considered a fetish (and thus a cheap gag), but some in the LGBTQ culture have reappropriated it as an expression of identity.
43	* TheWoobie: Wally. He's bullied by Largo and the game forces you to steal his monocle, making him unable to work (though you can replace it). The developers agreed, as they cut a scene where Wally would fall into shark-filled waters, feeling that the guy suffered enough.

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