Line #59 YMMV/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker


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2	* AccidentalInnuendo: During the [=WiFi=] hot-spot recruitment missions, female recruits will say "C'mon, give it to me!" with a ''lot'' of enthusiasm.
3	* [[AwesomeBosses/VideoGames Awesome Bosses]]:
4	** The final battle with Peace Walker. Intense is the only word to describe it.
5	** [[spoiler:[[TrueFinalBoss The battle against Metal Gear ZEKE piloted by Paz]]. [[IronicEcho Say Peace!]]]]
6	* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[AwesomeMusic/MetalGear See here]].
7	* [[Awesome/VideoGameLevels Awesome Video Game Level]]: Or more like, awesome minigame/cutscene. [[spoiler:You get to ''chase'' a running away Metal Gear ''on a horse'' while dodging missiles and trees thrown at you.]]
8	* BadassDecay: The fact that [[VideoGame/MonsterHunter Rathalos]] is the "King of the Skies" is rendered a bit moot when it's fighting a modern day BadassNormal that almost exclusively uses guns, unless it decides to use the [[OverlyLongFightingAnimation "Rathalos World Tour"]].
9	* BaseBreakingCharacter: Paz [[spoiler:post-reveal. She is either RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap by her tapes and true role in the story adding a lot of nuance to her character, or comes off even worse due to her betrayal of MSF and attempting to frame them by launching a nuke at the U.S. There's also the fact that she throws the player on a wild goose chase every time she frees Zadornov]].
10	* BrokenBase:
11	** Fans are divided as to whether ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPortableOps'' was made non-canon due to the relative lack of reference in ''Peace Walker''.
12	** Some fans of the series were divided over the boss fights. Some saw the need to procure ammo by calling it in as a mechanic that added tension, others found it [[ScrappyMechanic just wasted time]]. This was especially true when fighting bosses in single player, where there would never be enough ammunition in the field for you to win the battle. Additionally, the bosses were all armored vehicles or AI, rather than single humans with superpowers. It does provide the game with a more serious tone, but not everyone liked this deviation from the rest of the series.
13	** The game being broken up into short missions. Some think that it makes sense for portable play, and it keeps the pace up. It also allows going back to Mother Base in between missions. Others feel that it destroys the tension, as keeping track of your inventory is no longer an issue (ammo is never truly scarce), and stopping the action every 20 minutes breaks the game's flow.
14	** Various characters, including Big Boss, praising Che Guevara. On one hand, the praise comes from how Guevara acts as an inspiration for those who are fighting for freedom, and or what is right, and some fans think that this make a lot of sense given the anti-war themes present. Detractors on the other hand point out that the characters praising Guevara is hypocritical given that the real Guevara owned nukes and stated that he could and would launch nukes if necessary, which contradict the anti-nuke themes that is prevalent in the series.
15	* ContestedSequel: Many ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' fans who do not own the Platform/PlayStationPortable and/or care for the system's controls consider ''Peace Walker'' an unworthy sequel, much like ''Portable Ops'' before it. Of course, the control issues were fixed for the ''HD Edition'' released for the Platform/PlayStation3 and Platform/{{Xbox 360}}.[[note]]Also, it's available in the [[Platform/PlayStationNetwork PlayStation Store]] for the Platform/PlayStationVita, and the Vita allows you to map the camera to the right stick.[[/note]]
16	* DisappointingLastLevel: Some fans found Chapter 5 to be too short and straightforward. Others found it to be more analogous to an "epilogue" to the game, rather than chapter, and thus not so much disappointing as aggravating enticement for what the next story will bring.
17	* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Chairman thanks to him to trying to abort a nuclear strike after he believes Snake when the latter tells him about how Peace Walker is transmitting false information concerning the Soviets launching an attack against the U.S.
18	* FanNickname: "Zadoorknob" for Zadornov.
19	%%* FauxSymbolism: [[spoiler:The Mammal Pod is full of butterflies, which become the pale petals of Rokovoj Bereg. The final butterfly becomes a peace symbol upon contact with water! Hideo Kojima is a genius, stop looking confused!]]
20	* GameBreaker:
21	** Holding up enemy soldiers causes them to ''permanently'' lie down on the ground even if the player character walks away for some time. This tactic is especially useful if another soldier isn't nearby.
22	** The Stealth Camouflage, the Infinity Bandana, and the Soliton Radar. If it's any consolation, usage of the Stealth Camouflage won't allow you to S-rank missions, the Soliton Radar isn't useful until Rank 5, and the Infinity Bandana is acquired after a ''very hard'' Custom AI fight. If that wasn't enough, they also require a very long time to develop, too.
23	** In Outer Ops, the Kampfpistol, a Nazi flare gun modified into a grenade launcher, does a lot of damage to everything. This makes dealing with later Outer Ops missions much easier.
24	** While in Versus Ops, the [=ADM65=] could count as this. Most assault rifles specialize in either low recoil or high damage, but the ADM has both of those with no clear weaknesses. No wonder everybody uses it, to the point it can become a bit jarring to other players who actually decide to give the vast number of other weapons an opportunity.
25	** [[GatlingGood The M134]] and the [=M47=] are this for boss battles. The damage they do is just something to behold. Combine with the [[BottomlessMagazines Infinity Bandana]] and boss battles become easy.
26	** The Carl Gustav M2 (Fulton Recovery) is an essential tool for S-rank runs on boss battles and can allow you to complete at least one extra op in seconds.
27	** ''The controls and gameplay mechanics'' are a game breaker in the console versions. The console versions of ''Peace Walker'' give you controls like a normal third person shooter, massively increasing your ability to fight back. Add into the the lack of resource management due to the separate missions and it becomes remarkably easy to speedrun missions once you know the layout, making S-ranks quite easy to achieve in many missions.
28	* GoddamnedBats:
29	** Kidnappers, tiny flying robots that can shoot machine guns at you or, if close enough, latch onto your leg with a grippy claw on a cable. They're never a serious threat head-on, but they're ''just'' distracting enough that they make facing tougher opponents much more dangerous, because while you're hanging in the air trying to get down, everyone else is shooting you. They get extremely annoying during the Infiltrate the U.S. Missile Base mission. Chaffing or shooting down one automatically triggers caution mode. And they're placed in areas where you can't really hide unless you've got a box... and even then, it's a wait. They're also much more mobile than previous [=UAVs=] in the series.
30	** Scouts are particularly annoying to deal with when attempting to use CQC on them. They can counter with fiber wire to strangle you. Worse yet is that they can easily detect you even when using a high-index camo suit and night vision goggles. [[NintendoHard Careful stealth is key here]].
31	** Armored Peace Sentinel soldiers during custom vehicle battles. On their own, with just machine guns or assault rifles? Fine. But on higher difficulties? They start blowing you away with rapid succession rocket fire, practically playing hackey-sack with Snake's body using explosions. Even worse are the SPAS-12 wielding escorts. At least, the rocket soldiers will pause to stop and reload their weapons and will be unable to attack you if you get too close to them. Not so much with the shotgun ones, who will never stop their barrage of blasts, stunning you at every second and cancelling many of the actions you try to do.
32	** The Velociprey in most of the ''VideoGame/MonsterHunter'' missions. Not allowing you to reload? Getting in your way of firing potshots at the bosses? Leaping on you at the most inopportune times, knocking you down just as the boss is about to do something stupid? Just being an annoying part of the bosses? ''At least'' they let you cook up your rations. The funny thing is, they're faithful to their roles in ''VideoGame/MonsterHunter'', being very annoying.
33	* HarsherInHindsight:
34	** In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'', Revolver Ocelot was fully complicit in the Patriots' S3 Plan and was implied to be involved in the threat towards Olga Gurlukovich's child's life if Olga didn't cooperate. In ''Peace Walker'', Ocelot himself is revealed to have been under Sunny's position when The Boss and The Sorrow had their final battle at Dolinovodno.
35	** Anything involving Huey [[spoiler:in light of his actions in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'', where he becomes less of an Otacon-clone and more of a callous monster; it makes you wonder exactly how much truth there is to Coldman's comments regarding his plagiarism and exactly ''how skilled'' Huey is, given Skull Face's team are able to complete their Metal Gear ''without him'']].
36	** For those who liked the somewhat divisive Huey/Strangelove romance subplot, [[spoiler:it's revealed in ''The Phantom Pain'' that Huey murdered her after he tried to force their young son, Hal, to pilot Sahelanthropus and she criticized him for it. It's also indicated that Strangelove considered The Boss Hal's "true" mother in a sense and viewed Huey as largely a means to an end.]]
37	** Remember that little music video where Paz sings her theme song on top of Mother Base? [[spoiler:It's the exact same area where you fight her, with the song as the background music.]]
38	** The Tactical Espionage Operations trailer has Miller explaining to Big Boss about their potential future role in the economy, as well as Big Boss explaining that they probably shouldn't have gotten involved in the first place because people are going to get rid of him. It becomes a heck of a lot more harsh after beating the game, as this was actually part of the second ending, [[spoiler:a few hours after defeating Paz, where Miller ends up admitting to his involvement in Cipher's scheme.]]
39	** In a briefing file about Ruinas de Xochiquetzal, after Big Boss mentions he'd show respect to the temple only if the mood strikes him, Paz states that he has no one to blame but himself if Xochiquetzal strikes him down for that defiance. [[spoiler:That line becomes a lot less funny when one of the lines that Paz says during her fight against Big Boss is "You have no one to blame but yourself!" when firing ZEKE's rail gun at Snake.]]
40	** Miller's English voice actor is British-born Creator/RobinAtkinDownes, which is ironic when you take into account of the fact that [[spoiler:[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid about 31 years later]], British-raised Liquid Snake does pose as Master Miller.]]
41	* HilariousInHindsight:
42	** One of the pre-release trailers highlighted the game's multiplayer feature by showing off four Big Bosses assisting each other out. This led to speculation that the game would revolve around Big Boss leading an army of body doubles to serve as his decoys. While nothing like this actually happens in the actual story of ''Peace Walker'', [[spoiler: it would foreshadow the end-game plot twist of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' regarding the true identity of ''that'' game's protagonist.]]
43	** After Snake blows up the Chrysalis, he comments that Strangelove "played me like a piano". This is strikingly similar to a certain bit of MemeticMutation from ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVGroundZeroes''.
44	** Big Boss gets to fight a [[VideoGame/MonsterHunter Rathalos]] in this game. Eight years after ''Peace Walker'''s release, his clone/son Solid Snake [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate would get to have a rematch with it on different turf]].
45	** Kaz attempting to hit on Cécile becomes this after you've watched ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' and realized that this is basically a blonde half-Japanese [[Creator/RobinAtkinDownes Rush Clovis]] trying to rekindle his romance with a similarly blonde French [[Creator/CatherineTaber Padme Amidala]].
46	** Snake says that he believes in Santa Claus in the game. Many years later, Creator/KurtRussell, [[ComicBookFantasyCasting one of the actors that inspired the Snake characters]], would play Santa Claus in ''Film/TheChristmasChronicles'' films.
47	* HoYay:
48	** Creator/HideoKojima strikes again. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kie5hwjouNo Just listen to Paz 8th diary entry]]. Or watch the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwVPfF8Ir1g date with Kaz]]. It's official: Kojima is actively pre-empting the slash fiction continuum. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/HoYay/MetalGear More info in here.]]
49	** Female example: Paz's 5th audio diary entry. [[spoiler:Strangelove blatantly hits on and molests Paz before the latter gets a chance to react. Paz doesn't mind. In fact, she's confused and finds it enjoyable. It reads like a yuri lemon.]]
50	* IKnewIt:
51	** Thanks to a few bits of dialog towards the end of the game, many fans suspected that [[spoiler:Strangelove would become Huey's first wife and Otacon's mother]] long before it was confirmed in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain''.
52	** [[spoiler:"So wait, at the "endgame" the question of the discrepancy between Cécile and Paz's stories concerning their capture by the CIA and the origin of the tape Vladimir Zadornov used to assure Big Boss's involvement still hasn't been answered? One of them isn't telling the truth... now which one is the ''least'' likely to be a traitor...?"]]
53	* ItsEasySoItSucks: Some complaints towards the game consider it too easy, since ammo is replenished between missions and enemies. Stealth is not as necessary when you always have more than enough ammo to kill everyone on a map. That said, even detractors don't think the game sucks, but it's merely one of its weaknesses.
54	* MemeticMolester: Paz's diary reveals [[IntimateLotionApplication Strangelove groped her under the guise of applying suntan lotion]] and nearly fainted. Then she gets a cold, and then Miller tries to serenade her, and then exclaims that suppositories are good for colds... and then takes off his pants. And after that, Strangelove comes by with an "Indian remedy" that you rub on your chest.
55	* MemeticMutation: On [[Memes/MetalGear this page]].
56	* {{Moe}}: Paz, the cutest girl in the franchise since Emma Emmerich.
57	* MoralEventHorizon:
58	** Interestingly subjective: many might dispute when or indeed if Snake has crossed this in the prequel continuity so far. When you consider that he's running a mercenary company that will fight for virtually anyone with the money, it seems that if Big Boss didn't cross already, he's right at the edge. Most of his dialogue in the game suggests that, at the very least, he's developed a very fatalistic outlook of the world, without even the hope for a better future that defined his son's career.
59	** Unambiguous with Hot Coldman. His very first onscreen appearance has him going beyond this by shoving a paraplegic down the stairs, and he only gets worse from there. And that's even before you find out [[spoiler:that he was the one behind the events of Operation Snake Eater.]]
60	* {{Narm}}:
61	** There are some fans who can't take Hot Coldman seriously due to his name.
62	** When a soldier falls unconscious due to being choked, he reaches out in a dramatic fashion before falling unconscious while giving a dramatic gasp.
63	** One of the game over lines has Cécile saying "Here. I'll do the Quetzal for you" and do generic bird sounds. Made funnier when the subtitles says "Kyoooh Kyoooh".
64	** One of Cécile's GameOver quotes starts with "[[JustAStupidAccent Ze birds are weeping!]]"
65	** Keep hitting Codec while facing off against Peace Walker and you'll hear a very panicked Huey lament "Oh God! We're all doooooomed!".
66	* PlayerPunch:
67	** [[spoiler:In a cruel twist, The Boss's horse must be euthanized by the player while also shooting The Boss again in a flashback, ''one right after the other''.]]
68	** How you destroy [[spoiler:the Mammal Pod. Basically, you go inside Peace Walker and pull out all the AI memory boards, listening to a progressively deteriorating voice of The Boss. To put this in human terms, you're going inside her brain and ripping chunks out of it until she's completely lobotomized.]]
69	** [[spoiler:Paz, who is later revealed to be do her utmost to fight everything she feels for Big Boss and MSF, turns on you in the finale with a mocking, heartbreaking ''"Say peace!"'' that goes against everything about her character prior to this.]]
70	* PolishedPort: The ''HD Edition'' of the game for the [=PS3=] and Xbox 360 has improved controls thanks to dual analog sticks. Being ported to consoles with proper online support makes the versus and co-op multiplayer a viable option.
71	* TheScrappy: Chico is not particularly popular due to getting captured, selling his teammates out and being seen as little more than an annoying TagalongKid.
72	* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: ''Peace Walker'' is the sequel to ''Portable Ops'' in the sense that not only is it a ''Metal Gear Solid'' game made for the PSP, but it follows the same premise of building a small army by capturing and indoctrinating enemy soldiers. However, ''Peace Walker'' builds on virtually every aspect of ''Portable Ops'' and pretty much blows its predecessor out of the water.
73	* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: [[https://youtu.be/-KJploMFVwo "Take Down"]] sounds eerily similar to [[https://youtu.be/3YhjCnga5Hc "Ascension"]] from ''VideoGame/MarvelUltimateAlliance2''.
74	* ThatOneAttack:
75	** Peace Walker's EMP, which negates all lock-on mechanisms and [[HoistByHisOwnPetard redirects your rockets back at you.]] Forget to bring a gun or Chaff Grenades? Have fun running around for two minutes dodging attacks because it's practically invincible at this point. It also tends to reactivate the EMP as soon as the last one runs out, unless you get lucky and it decides to do something else, like run around the back or [[OhCrap try launching the nuke.]] The Custom version is even worse, as it's immune to Chaff Grenades. Bring an assault rifle.
76	** [[OverlyLongFightingAnimation The "Rathalos World Tour"]]. Just as in ''VideoGame/MonsterHunter'', it will get up and fly around the island pointlessly for an irritatingly long time before gliding in for a low sweep. This attack is hated simply for the fact that it ''wastes your time'' as it does absolutely nothing important while it's flying circles. ''Peace Walker'' makes it even worse than its ''Monster Hunter'' counterpart by making Rathalos use it far more often than in the latter, although bringing a few Stinger missiles to shoot it out of the sky for some extra damage is still well-appreciated.
77	* ThatOneLevel: The torture chamber escape. In a throwback to Solid Snake's escape from prison in the original ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'', there's more than one way to escape, but the game doesn't flat out tell you what they are, [[spoiler:instead just expecting you to look around the room for unusual prompts]], which irritates some players, and once out, you're practically naked (and literally naked, too, at least from the waist up). Having to button mash very quickly for the first time since ''[=MGS2=]'', with no way to opt out, doesn't help matters. Luckily, unlike many other levels in the game, [[AntiFrustrationFeatures it doesn't count the torture cutscenes as cutscene interaction]], meaning that if you know what to do, you can actually escape the level with an S-Rank. You ''will'' still die a lot due to how punishing the torture session is, though. If you wonder exactly what makes this part so hard, the speed you are expected to press the button is so fast that even you somehow get past it, your finger will be strained for at least a week from pressing the button so fast. And even worse, the presses are programmed so fast that ''turbo controllers can't even keep up''.
78	* {{Wangst}}: In the English version, the torture scene has Big Boss begging to be murdered not because of the pain but for killing the Boss even though he already knows the truth and abandoned America. In the Japanese version, Big Boss simply laughs.
79	* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: The Japanese version was toned down to get a lower age rating, as teenagers and children were the primary demographic for the PSP in Japan. Despite this, many elements are clearly not appropriate for the age group; there are a number of very suggestive briefing tapes, a mention on Miller mooning the other MSF soldiers while drunk at what was implied to be a wild party, various references to the drug trade, a lot of smoking (explicitly shown as well as implied), and the fact that there are two dating missions where the ending of the mission implies that the couple is having sex -- with one party being less than half Snake's age and the other being male.
80	* {{Woolseyism}}:
81	** The changes for the various promotional product placement items in the game were mostly changed. For instance, the magazines, which were originally referencing stuff like ''Dengeki [=PlayStation=]'', ''Dengeki Gaming Blitz'', ''Weekly Shonen Jump'', and ''Weekly Famitsu'', were altered to be about more serious matters, such as politics, and also to include nods to the Les Enfants Terribles children (Solid, Liquid, and Solidus).
82	** The various Curry items were originally Bon Curry, Bon Curry Neo, and Bon Curry Gold 21. However, they changed it to Spicy Curry, Future Curry, and Great Curry, respectively, and they also redid the item description to give a history on what Curry is, and even stated that it was Miller's favorite food. With Pepsi Nex, they also altered the design so it acted as a reference to Narc Soda, the soft drink that Drebin often drank from ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots''. Likewise, all of the items were also given some unique brand names.[[note]]Tres Bien for the Men's Cologne [originally a product placement for Axe], and Taco Chips for the Tortilla Chips [which by the way was a product placement for Doritos].[[/note]]
83	** During the Date with Kaz mission, if the player interrogates Kaz, he'll say "No skeletons in my... closet." Originally, it was closer to "I'm not hiding anything!"

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