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10'''[[Awesome/{{Homestuck}} > DO THE AWESOME THING.]]'''\
11'''[[BrokenBase/{{Homestuck}} > Engage in confrontational debates.]]'''\
12'''[[Funny/{{Homestuck}} > Experience mirthful shenanigans.]]'''\
13'''[[Heartwarming/{{Homestuck}} > Inspect burning vascular pump.]]'''\
14'''[[Memes/{{Homestuck}} > Sleuth out internet colloquialisms.]]'''\
15'''[[NightmareFuel/{{Homestuck}} > Peruse bad dream catalysts.]]'''\
16'''[[TearJerker/{{Homestuck}} > Shed single tear of black liquid sorrow.]]'''
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19[[index]]
20* [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation/{{Homestuck}} Alternative Character Interpretation]]
21* [[BrokenBase/{{Homestuck}} Broken Base]]
22* [[FandomSpecificPlot/{{Homestuck}} Fandom Specific Plot]]
23* [[HarsherInHindsight/{{Homestuck}} Harsher In Hindsight]]
24* [[Woobie/{{Homestuck}} The Woobie]]
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31* {{Adorkable}}:
32** John. As Andrew Hussie put it on Formspring:
33--->'''Andrew Hussie:''' John is adorable because he is honest and heroic and nerdy and a good friend.
34** Tavros sucks at trolling, but you still want to hug the poor guy.
35* AlternateSelfShipping: Quite common in the fandom, particularly with the Time players whose powers include StableTimeLoop formation. Dreambubbles allow characters to contact alt-universe dead versions of themselves in their sleep. With the way the trolls' BizarreAlienBiology works, ancestor/descendant pairings may or may not have hints of this, though it's closer to incest; ancestors and descendants are born centuries apart and happen to have very similar genetic makeup.
36* AngelDevilShipping: Tavros is often shipped with either Vriska or Gamzee. Both of them have had crushes on Tavros in canon, and even though Vriska supposedly gave up her crush before the timeskip she and Tavros were dating for a while as ghosts, before Tavros finally got fed up with Vriska and left.
37* AngstWhatAngst:
38** Acts 4 and 5 are a TraumaCongaLine for the Kids but none of them are very fazed by it
39** John, seems fairly chipper just hours after the deaths of his father, Rose, and her mother.
40** Jade. Everything points to BreakTheCutie for her, and she does seem to get very close to it, but the only part of her that's really broken is holding back on the swears (and even this doesn't last forever). She even turns out to be perfectly fine with dream bubble shenanigans once she's gotten used to everything.
41* AntiClimaxBoss:
42** At one point in Act 5 Act 2, the scene is all set for an EvilVersusEvil MeleeATrois between Gamzee, Vriska and Eridan... but then before anything happens Rainbow Drinker Kanaya runs and kicks Gamzee where it hurts, sending him right off a cliff, punches Vriska and chainsaws Eridan in half no problem, where before no one could even get close to him.
43** Andrew Hussie vs. Doc Scratch in the [o]ntermission section of Act 5 Act 2. [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation It's possible that this was part of the]] GambitPileup [[ThanatosGambit that the latter was attempting to establish.]]
44** Then it happens with Gamzee ''again'' when Karkat pulls a [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath Shooshing The Monster To Calm Down]].
45** Lord English is beaten off screen, despite being the BigBad.
46* {{Anvilicious}}: Hussie introducing a RightWayWrongWayPair in [[MsFanservice Porrim Maryam]] and [[SoapboxSadie Kankri Vantas]]. To a lesser degree there's also the anti-bigotry moral given through the hemospectrum.
47* AssPull:
48** A certain cool dude was assumed dead some time ago, but later turned up alive with little explanation. It's unclear why Davesprite's missing wing and yellow blood weren't seen at the scene of his presumed death. However, an earlier event could be interpreted as foreshadowing of his survival; Jade sees through her spectaGoggles that there are 13 Daves in the incipisphere, including Davesprite. But when one (other than Davesprite) dies, the count goes down to 12.
49** Dirk's Auto-Responder pulls a minor one, although it references the trope by name. "The algorithms are guaranteed to be 96% indistinguishable from DS's native neurological responses, based on some statistical analysis I basically just pulled out of my ass right now."
50** Act 6 has Brain Ghost Dirk appearing out of nowhere, which makes sense since Jake's hope powers have amplified him into existence, and then he tears Aranea's soul from her body; a power not previously established (though his power set can be inferred by the name of his mythological role, being one of the few that have been explained outside of Fanon), and by a borderline-CreatorsPet character as well. It's later revealed during Caliborn's masterpiece that this is what Dirk needs to do beforehand so he can destroy the soul, which justifies it somewhat, and many characters who have ascended to the god tiers display sudden and immense increases in competence involving their powers shortly after ascension without any prior knowledge or practice.
51** The Rings of [[PowerOfTheVoid Void]] and Life seem to be ass pulls. Before Act 6 there were no references to them despite them both playing a significant role in the later parts of Act 6. They are then revealed to have abilities unlike the previous rings seen in the comic, like being used by players (it's a hard rule that the "regular" rings only transform Prospitians or Dersites) and the ability to be transported to and from Dream Bubbles. They seem to directly parallel the Life and Void players Jane and Roxy. When one goes missing, the other is miraculously discovered.
52** Aranea being EvilAllAlong. Aranea was one of the nicest of the Pre-Scratch trolls and was mostly interested in chronicling the multiple timelines. While she is shown to be disgruntled at how Vriska and Meenah became friends and later matesprits and her alternate timeline self, Mindfang, was a cruel pirate mastermind, there was very little foreshadowing to her wanting to hijack the entire Human session, the [[StoryBreakerPower insane extent of her mind control]] which far surpassed even what Mindfang could do, and her plan to derail the timeline making little sense in hindsight, serving as a sudden DiabolusExMachina requiring ''another'' ass pull to resolve.
53** Vriska being brought back to life being the key to a successful session. This wasn't only not foreshadowed, but flat out contradicted Terezi's vision showing Vriska ''had'' to die for any of the trolls to live[[note]]In every universe where Terezi didn't kill Vriska, Bec Noir followed her fairy dust trail back to the meteor and butchered the remaining trolls[[/note]] and the ongoing plot which had Vriska and Meenah working together to get a ghost army together to fight Lord English. Even worse, this is an ass pull ''in-universe'', which the alpha timeline suddenly and inexplicably changes to accommodate her revival and the Vriska who learned a bit of humility and underwent character development due to her death was cruelly discarded by Meenah since she was no longer the "prime" Vriska. The only consolation for this is Vriska and Terezi making up after years of being parted.
54* BadassDecay: Karkat genuinely had prowess as a leader, but it all falls apart when Vriska is ressurected and becomes the new leader of the team. From there, he's just a joke who isn't even invited to battle it out against Lord English and is reduced to fighting Clover, who dances on his head the entire time. While Clover's luck powers do prevent foes from killing him, Karkat's contributions in Collide are absolutely miniscule because he spent the entire time getting toyed with by a horny leprechaun.
55* CargoShip:
56** Bro/Lil Cal. [[NightmareFuel Yes, it exists.]]
57* CompleteMonster:
58** [[OmnicidalManiac Lord English]], [[Characters/HomestuckTheFeltTwo Lord of Time and leader of the Felt]], is an invincible, time-manipulating monstrosity summoned at the end of the universe, and is the one greatest threat in the story. Initially [[{{Jerkass}} Caliborn, a condescending cherub]], he becomes much worse after he completes his game of Sburb and has his soul merged with Gamzee's and Arquius's. Right after being summoned through the death of his servant Doc Scratch, English immediately sets out wreaking havoc. Using his powers of virtual omnipotence, English massacred the Horrorterrors, murdered Andrew Hussie out of spite from when he was still Caliborn, and obliterated a dream bubble, annihilating the hundreds of failed timeline souls within and causing horrible damage to the fabric of reality. Ultimately, everything English does is a result of his limitless desire to [[CainAndAbel hurt his sister beyond repair]], as well as hurt everything else, and English is ultimately the one character [[TheDreaded feared and dreaded]] by everyone else.
59** [[FauxAffablyEvil Doc Scratch]] serves as TheDragon to Lord English. In his bid to summon the latter into existence, he launches a complex GambitRoulette spanning two universes. He abusively raises a troll girl as a Handmaid and forces her to manipulate troll history to turn the race from peaceful to hateful and aggressive; manipulates Vriska into killing Aradia and paralyzing Tavros in order to kick-start the events that would lead to his creation; and sets up the destruction of the entire troll race using an EldritchAbomination. In the present day, he tricks Rose into creating the Green Sun, the power source of both himself and Bec Noir, using the Tumor, a bomb created from the destruction of two universes, one of which was directly facilitated by him and the other being the result of a StableTimeLoop with the Green Sun's creation. He intended on Rose dying in it and tried to get rid of the others by informing them of a way to essentially reboot their universe that would have wiped them from existence.
60* CrackPairing: [=JohnXJaspersprite=], [[MemeticMutation the only pairing that matters]].
61%% * CreepyAwesome: Lord English, the Condesce, Marquise Spinneret Mindfang, the Grand Highblood, Gamzee (When he's sober), Kurloz, and the Horrorterrors. Andrew Hussie seems to ''really'' like this trope.
62* CrossesTheLineTwice: ''[[BlackComedy SO MUCH.]]''
63** One notable yet funny example is B1 Jack putting on Bro's Shades.
64** And later after B1 Jack Noir kills John's dad and Rose's mom, we get this line:
65--> You are now Jack Noir. You have just murdered an innocent family. What will you do?\
66==>Accessorize!
67** Another is Karkat's hilarious expression after seeing Sollux get knocked out, and then Feferi and Kanaya getting killed.
68*** Sollux being blinded by a vengeful Eridan? Upsetting. Karkat accidentally knocking out all of Sollux's teeth while he was unconscious and inexpertly trying to stick them back into his mouth? ''Hilarious''.
69** After Karkat fails to get Sollux in the Medium in time before he dies, [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/index.php?s=6&p=004372 we are treated]] to A2 Jack Noir comforting him while calling him a "goddamn blubbering pansy" and Gamzee honking in the background.
70** Grandpa Harley stuffing and mounting dream Jade's body. Also his death.
71-->"This is exactly why babies should not be allowed to dual-wield flintlock pistols."
72** Equius's... stranger behaviors.
73** Nearly everything involving Vriska and Tavros' interactions in the Medium, especially her demand that he apologize to her for being paraplegic. Even more spectacular given that it's her fault to begin with!
74** "But unfortunately, Rufio is not real. He's imaginary. A fake. Like a made up friend, the way fairies are. You continue to be sad and alone."
75** Post-Scratch Jack Noir's jailbreak attempts, during which he both purposely and accidentally kills at least five guards and tries to hide his lurid magazine. And by lurid magazine, we mean an issue of [[BrainBleach a dog show magazine.]] Then he gives one of the guards a funeral...by sticking the guy's head in a [[RunningGag pumpkin.]]
76** Caliborn's reaction to Dirk making him 'pornography'.
77** Caliborn's [[MoreDakka reaction]] to Gamzee, accompanied by ''Elevatorstuck'' of all songs. Lampshaded by the narrator:
78---> I'm debating whether I should play the elevator music again.
79---> Would that be funny? I'm not sure.
80---> Kind of borderline, really.
81** Andrew Hussie saves Spades Slick from Lord English by [[WorstAid hurling the bedridden Spades off a cliff]].
82** Terezi stops in the middle of her sendoff to John to draw achalk outline of herself, then kneels over dead as she finishes, falling perfectly into the outline.
83* EvilIsCool: Most of the villains. Specific examples are the Black Queen, the Felts, the Condesce, Gamzee after he goes crazy, Jack Noir, and of course Lord English himself. Vriska ''kind of'' counts but exactly how evil she could be considered is up for debate.
84* FanNickname:
85** Before Jade's actual name was revealed, forum members often called her "Gigi", based on her Pesterchum handle. When she rose to God Tier, she incorporated Jadesprite and thus got dog ears; she was quickly dubbed "[[SdrawkcabName Dog]] [[{{Pun}} Tier]]". She also gained the nickname "Grimbark."
86** Jade's Grandpa is often called [[Webcomic/SweetBroAndHellaJeff Hass]] [[https://www.homestuck.com/story/915 "The Flame"]] Harley due to a misunderstanding-turned-joke.
87** Bec Noir and Jack English for the B2 and A2 Jack Noirs to distinguish them between each other and Spades Slick. A2 Jack is also often called Lord Noir or Union Jack.
88** "Murderstuck" for the infamous section of Act 5 Act 2 where Eridan and Gamzee lose it, resulting in half of the Trolls getting gruesomely killed off.
89** "Kanpire" for Kanaya after she becomes a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent rainbow drinker]].
90** Nicknames for the Lusii include "Seahorse Dad" for Eridan, based on the comic's use of "Crabdad" for Karkat's and "Spidermom" for Vriska's.
91** The Dolorosa is sometimes referred to as Dolomom.
92** Daddy Droog for Diamonds Droog in reference to the fans interpreting him as a father figure for Aradia.
93** "Cali" and "Uu" for Calliope and Caliborn due to them sharing a body. Calliope herself is often called Callie, which she herself uses for her trollsona.
94** Before SelfDemonstrating/DocScratch's identity was revealed, fans just called him White Text in reference to his typing style.
95** Arasia for the Handmaid due to her oriental clothing style.
96** Bec Blanche for PM, post prototyping.
97** For a while before he was named, Karkat was called Carson or Carl. Now that his name is known, Karkles is fairly common. That or "Karkitty".
98** For God Tier Aradia, there's the nickname Alive-radia.
99** The carapacians enslaved by the Condesce are often called Famished Ruffians.
100** All Prospitians and Dersites were referred to as "Carapaces," and extrapolating from that, "Carapeople."
101** Gamzee's God Tier is often referred to as the Cod Tier, since the Bard God Tier outfit includes a [[GagPenis Magnificent Codpiece]].
102** Dave is also nicknamed [=ExCaliBird=].
103** Hussie's fan nicknames are not just many. They are ''legion''. Huss, Huss of Lips, Waste of Space, Thief of Life...
104* FanPreferredCouple:
105** Dave/Karkat is the most popular pairing in terms of fanfiction, with nearly 6000 fanfics as of 2020 on Archive of Our Own featuring the pairing in some form. While it began as a FoeYayShipping, the two developed a close bond through Intermission acts and the pairing gained more and more traction, surpassing even the titanic John/Dave ship that was initially the fandom's strongest ship. They were given a MaybeEverAfter near the end of the comic.
106** Eridan/Sollux has the most fanfictions on A03 of any ship not including one of the kids, far more than the canon Sollux/Feferi and Sollux/Aradia ships. Sollux and Eridan have an antagonistic relationship in canon but fans of the ship are divided on whether they should be paired as kismeses or matesprits due to their similar self-loathing and nerdy interests. It helps that Eridan had a HeelRealization due to having to share a body and mind with Sollux in canon and made real efforts to make up for his actions as a result.
107* FashionVictimVillain:
108** Almost any Derse agent in the kid's session, thanks to the required harlequin clothing due to Rose prototyping John's sprite with a harlequin.
109** Eridan's regular outfit. His godtier outfit, from an alternate timeline seen a couple of times in Act 6, definitely inspired much lulz from parts of the fandom.
110** Gamzee's God Tier outfit is a purple clown suit... with the giant codpiece from ''Webcomic/BardQuest''.
111* GeniusBonus: There are a lot of opaque references and bits of wordplay woven into the story, such as the NumericalThemeNaming of The Felt, and the trolls' names.
112** Some of the sylladexes are based on various computer science data structures, such as first-in-first-out, trees, queues, and hash maps.
113** The screen names of the all the trolls and kids (using John's former ghostyTrickster handle), when shortened to initialisms, use only the letters G, A, T, and C, which are the letters/abbreviations used in sequencing DNA.
114*** In addition, John changed his initials from GT (a legitimate DNA sequence) to EB (a reference to ethidium bromide, a blueish-colored molecular tag or dye that intercalates between base pairs) in an attempt to lose the trolls pestering him (especially Karkat). In short, Karkat's trolling created a mutation in the code: he gave their universe cancer in every way imaginable.
115*** uranianUmbra and undyingUmbrage (Calliope and Caliborn) may seem like exceptions, until you realize that U is the RNA equivalent of T.
116** Feferi's AQUATIC HOOFBEASTS are an actual Greek mythological creature called the Hippocampus. Later, she does many important things in the Land of [[VisualPun Brains]] and Fire.
117** Aradia's land, Quartz and Melody, initially seems to be unrelated to time. However, the piezoelectric effect keeps clocks with ''quartz'' crystals running regularly.
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121* HardToAdaptWork: Creator/AndrewHussie has said that ''Homestuck'' was meant to the be the sort of story that could only be told on the internet, as it makes extensive use of InfiniteCanvas and multimedia. When asked by a fan how he would hypothetically adapt ''Homestuck'' as a film, Hussie answered that he would throw the plot away entirely, and just write something set in the same universe and that conveyed the same themes as the comic. Note that this did not stop him from authorizing a print version.
122* HilariousInHindsight:
123** The fandom has often joked that Clover was a leprechaun because of his name and the fact that he's green and associated with luck. Then it turned out that ''all of The Felt'' are leprechauns except Snowman. And then, in one of Aranea's expositions, they apparently have a romance system based on Lucky Charms (TM), which are associated with leprechauns...
124** [[http://www.uuyogurt.com/ UU Yogurt,]] whose logo happens to be intertwined red and green spirals. And there is now fanfic involving human versions of Calliope and Caliborn working in a yogurt shop. You couldn't make this stuff up.
125** Equius' death involves [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim an arrow in the knee]].
126** At one point, Dave creates "ebubbles", a series of Twitter-esque posts featuring fragments of Dave quotes clearly parodying the infamous ''Blog/HorseEbooks'' automated spam Twitter account. In 2013, it was revealed that Horse_ebooks had been controlled by a human for the previous 2 years.
127** Bro isn't ''meant'' to be an {{Expy}} of [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Kamina]] (Andrew Hussie wasn't even aware of the show's existence when he started ''Homestuck'') but the two are so coincidentally similar it's hilarious. They even end up serving similar [[TooCoolToLive ro]][[SacrificialLion les]] in their respective stories.
128*** Likewise, Lord English wasn't intended as a ShoutOut to {{Lord British|Postulate}} (his name is actually a reference to a pool term, keeping in theme with the Felt's pool-themed names) but the idea worked so well with his role and portrayal that Hussie decided to roll with it.
129** Just two years before ''Homestuck'' began, [[Manga/{{Psyren}} a manga with a surprisingly similar premise]] started running, complete with a world-ending video game, time travel, strange aliens, and an EldritchAbomination BigBad. Given Andrew Hussie's complete lack of knowledge regarding anime or manga, it's one hell of a coincidence.
130** Karkat at one point makes a comment about "SHITTING MILES OF RAGE SNAKE TO CHOKE YOU TO DEATH". When we find out how cherubs reproduce (by turning into 93-million-mile snakes in kismesissistic passion), well ...
131** When Vriska talks to Terezi in a pesterlog, she says, "Because tonight we will play a game together. [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 For the first time in I don't even know. Forever!]]"
132** An example that could count as hilarious in ''foresight'', so to speak, would have to relate to a story arc that Andrew Hussie worked on during the Gigapause. It revealed that Vriska and Meenah became romantically involved after bonding in the afterlife. A remarkably similar situation occurred in the series finale of ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'', where Korra and Asami are strongly implied to begin a romantic relationship. Given that this was made long before the finale of that show aired (and that when the show did air, it was in the midst of Andrew Hussie posting the updates he worked on during the Gigapause), the author ended up unintentionally predicting the end of the series. Both fandoms took note of this pretty quickly.
133** Rose Lalonde resembles a darker version of ''ComicBook/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch''. In 2014, Archie Comics launched ''ComicBook/ChillingAdventuresOfSabrina'', which is a darker, horror-themed version of Sabrina, whose new design looks ''even more'' like ''Rose''.
134** The final animated sequence actually turns ''Homestuck'' into an anime, which is not only something the fans tried to do for giggles, but also makes all the anger toward ''Homestuck'' cosplayers at anime conventions seem ironic with this in mind. "Homestuck is my favorite anime" also used to be a frequent meme.
135** Dave's remarks about "planet fucking jupiter" take on a different meaning with the release of ''WebOriginal/SeventeenThousandSevenHundredSeventySix'', a work that bears a number of similarities to ''Homestuck'' and features a sentient version of the Jupiter Icy Moons Explorer that acts very similarly to Dave.
136** [[https://www.homestuck.com/story/4126 "You are happy that he stayed in that lane, and stuck with a time-tested formula. If he went in a different direction, you probably would have found it really disappointing."]] Amusing when referring to ''Problem Sleuth 2'', which Post-Scratch MSPA stuck with for the 2 years ''Homestuck'' ran at the time, but hysterical when that's exactly what happened to ''Homestuck'' for the better part of ''a decade''.
137* ItWasHisSled: The {{Troll}}s that pester John and his friends are actually aliens. While this was an extremely unexpected development when this was first unveiled, the sheer popularity of these characters within the fandom makes it one of the few spoilers of ''Homestuck'' that is virtually impossible to avoid.
138* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: The lecherous, sleazy Cronus Ampora manages to attract a FAR larger hatedom than any of the story's more reprehensible antagonists. See the entry below.
139* LoveToHate: Lord English, Doc Scratch, and the Condesce are arguably the only characters in the whole story who aren't portrayed as pitiable or sympathetic ''at all'' and are completely evil, but this doesn't stop fans from loving them for their magnificent villainy.
140* MagnificentBastard: The [[HypercompetentSidekick Draconian Dignitary]] is an agent of Derse and [[DiscOneFinalBoss Jack Noir]]'s [[TheDragon main underling]]. Once Jack [[TheStarscream seizes control of Derse]] from the Black Queen, the Dignitary takes steps to ensure his rule is kept, including arranging the attempted theft of the White Queen's Ring. The Dignitary is led by Vriska to Rose's journal, which he uses the genetic code kept in it to create Becquerel, the [[PhysicalGod First Guardian]] of Earth. This eventually leads to Jack gaining the powers of a First Guardian and rising to partial omnipotence. From then on, the Dignitary takes on the role of administrating Derse in Jack's stead, ordering the assassination of Jade Harley when his superior can't do it himself.
141* {{Moe}}: WV and Nepeta are both adorable and kind of woobie-ish.
142* MoralEventHorizon
143** Where exactly B1 Jack -- now Bec Noir -- crosses the line probably depends on the reader. A good point of reference would probably be his senseless destruction of B1 Prospit and Skaia -- killing Dream Jade in the process -- and then the destruction of the A2 trolls' Prospit, Derse and Skaia.
144*** Many fans still loved him in spite of his onscreen atrocities, but his [[KilledOffscreen abrupt offscreen killing]] of John's dad and Rose's mom during their budding romance cost him most the remainder of his audience sympathy.
145** Vriska became irredeemably evil in the eyes of many (before her canonical introduction, mind you) when she crippled Tavros because he wanted to stop playing a round of FLARP.
146** Gamzee crossed it when he choked Equius dead with a broken bow, then clubbed Nepeta to death.
147** Doc Scratch actually crossed it before we met him, but we don't find out until we finally see what he's been doing to his "guest", the Handmaid.
148** Eridan hits this after killing Feferi, almost killing Kanaya, blinding Sollux, and destroying the Matriorb.
149** Marquise Spinneret Mindfang crossed it when she raped a slave just to make Orphaner Dualscar jealous. And the slave was implied to be ''the Dolorosa''.
150** There's several potential crossings for Lord English/Caliborn.
151*** When his reaction to seeing the apparent deaths of Jane and Roxy while Dirk and Jake are knocked out is to ''laugh his ass off'' and rub all of it in Calliope's face.
152*** Him killing Calliope (it technically would've happened anyways, but the way he did it was utterly atrocious).
153*** Killing {{A|uthorAvatar}}ndrew and Hussiebot, while smacking around the completely innocent Ms. Paint.
154*** Him destroying a dream bubble, thus slaughtering millions of innocent and harmless ghosts. The reason? He's rampaging through the afterlife looking for his Calliope's ghost, so he can kill her again.
155** Cronus pretty much loses all hope of being sympathetic when he sexually harasses and tries to take advantage of the disabled Mituna. Not as bad as other examples, but still a low blow.
156** Aranea is initially an AntiVillain with sympathetic goals. However, she crosses the line when she kills Jade, then [=manipul8s=] Scratch's clock to ensure that her God-Tier powers don't save her. While this has since been retconned, sympathy for Aranea is next to nonexistent.
157* NoYay: Doc Scratch's comments about Rose and Jade being "adorable", even though he didn't intend it in a sexual or romantic way (he's immortal and has no comprehension of romance or sexuality so he doesn't understand why this would come off as creepy). Lampshaded by Rose who becomes ''really'' uncomfortable when Scratch says this. Becomes a ''lot'' more disturbing when we see his abusive treatment of the Handmaid...
158** Davepeta tells Jasprose that it's okay if they go on a romantic date, despite the fact that it would be incestuous.
159* OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow:
160** The part when Hussie kills Doc Scratch. Seriously, the author busted in and killed one of the primary villains. Then it's subverted when it turns out Scratch wanted this to happen so that Lord English could enter the universe. In other words, the author intervening ''made things worse''.
161** Happens in Act 6 Act 3[[note]]Although the author can't save them because he's dead in-story[[/note]]. Two of the post-Scratch Kids suddenly die. They still have their dreamselves, but they need to have one of the other two Kids corpsesmooch them before it's too late. Unfortunately, the other two Kids are completely unconscious... and if ''they'' don't wake up they're going to die very soon themselves.
162*** The severity of the situation ''was'' huge, but the solution was something as simple as going through a dream bubble, a kingdom being destroyed by a universe-destroying weapon, and then back in time 413 years while on a flying skateboard, ''killing yourself'', kissing at least two dead people, [[ItMakesSenseInContext convincing another to kiss your decapitated head]] while a volcano is blowing up, and giving a dead troll from another universe a high-five.
163** Another example of this shows up in S: Game Over, where by the end the only kids and trolls left alive are John, Rose, Roxy, Dirk, and Terezi. Dirk's [[HeroicBSOD Bluescreened]] and Rose is dead. Parts of the fandom hope that it's a doomed timeline.
164*** And John's time-travel shenanigans retroactively make it one.
165* PoesLaw: [[ZigZaggingTrope Zig-zagged.]] Due to the meta-humour, self-parody and Andrew's AuthorAvatar persona, the lines between things like CreatorBacklash, CreatorBreakdown, TakeThatAudience and parodies of the same are pretty blurry.
166* RewatchBonus: Lots of them, given the comic's layered symbolism, AnachronicOrder, and complicated use of time travel.
167* RomanticPlotTumor:
168** Some viewed the troll romance shenanigans and exploration of terms, and subsequent explosion of romance with the kids and trolls afterwards this way. This was largely because ''Homestuck'' had virtually no romance from Acts 1-4, then suddenly introduced all these elements in Act 5.
169** John/Vriska is unique in that it's the only directly stated and serious romance that has developed during the story (except [[OfficialCouple Mom/Dad]], which managed to soundly avert this trope), as all other romances were part of the character's motivations from the start. This has caused many to respond to it with vitriol.
170** The romantic shenanigans with the B2 kids in Act 6, although likely a parody set up by the author towards the fans' shipping antics. This is especially likely given that by the time they've reached the A2 universe, all of the kid/troll relationships have broken up (with lampshade hangings on how they wouldn't work out in the long run) except Rose/Kanaya which, ironically enough, had the least focus and so being less of a "plot tumor". In spite of this, many fans cite this as one of the aspects of Act 6's SeasonalRot.
171* SoBadItsGood: Rufioh's name. It might just be the laziest possible way of getting "[[Film/{{Hook}} Rufio]]" to be six letters long. Seeing as how most of the dancestors are primarily joke characters, this was probably intentional.
172** Made even better when you realize the added h in the name, in addition to his hair and Tavros' association with Fiduspawn, makes him a parody of ''Anime/YuGiOh''.
173* SpiritualLicensee: ''Homestuck'' is basically a more complicated version of ''VideoGame/{{EarthBound|1994}}''. WordOfGod has even said that the game was a major influence when writing the comic.
174** It could also be considered a more humorous version of ''Manga/{{Psyren}}''.
175* TeasingCreator:
176** When the creator of something takes time to answer fan questions, is prompted as to why he isn't working, and then takes his reply and [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004228 INSERTS it into the very work he was questioned about]]? Better believe it.
177** Andrew also plays with WordOfGod constantly. For example, "[trolls'] faces are just exotic collections of genitals arranged to look like an angry face to scare away predators, like patterns on butterfly wings."
178** Shipping falls into his realm as well. He plays with ships like a child plays with dominoes, [[ShipTease setting them up]] so he can [[ShipSinking knock them down]].
179* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Due to Homestuck's nature of a long running comic with a huge cast there's many that this could apply to, but this especially with:
180** The White King/Writ Keeper barely appears even though he's supposed to be the BigGood of Sburb. He's shown getting into a time capsule with Rose's walkthrough implying he's going to help out the heroes later on... and is then promptly killed off by Bec Noir barely seconds after reuniting with Windswept Questant. And ''then'' it's revealed that his post-Scratch self was already killed off-screen before the Post-Scratch session even began.
181** Feferi. She's OutOfFocus compared to even Nepeta and Equius, who are well known for being ThoseTwoGuys and at least both had ADeathInTheLimelight with extensive focus on them during the flash, which Feferi herself does not get before her unceremonious death.[[note]]She does not even a get new talk sprite unlike the two of them, or how everyone else in that particular flash does.[[/note]] Even Hussie acknowledges in a way, as after ''three'' rather sudden deaths of Feferi (her dream self, her real self, and her as Fefeta), he has Meenah leader of the Pre-Scratch trolls because he feels he screwed over Peixes fans.
182** The B2 version of Draconian Dignitary was built up in the earlier parts of Act 6 as a replacement of sorts for Jack Noir (a literal one, as the B2 version of Jack is in jail and he now serves as the replacement Archagent, and a metaphorical one for B1 Jack as an antagonist). Being given the Ring of Void by the Condesce, using the Red Miles to hunt down the Dirk's dreamself, and becoming the one responsible for capturing Dad Egbert also cements his position as a threat to the B2 players. However, after he gets told by the Condesce to give her the Ring of Void back, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse he disappears completely from the story]]. There is zero mention of him during the follow up to Collide and afterwards, with there being no implications of him being alive following the Condesce's death. In fact, it's not even clear if he even gave back the Ring of Void to the Condesce, and it's unknown why she even wants it in the first place.
183* TooCoolToLive: The Guardians and Lususes, the Black Queen, Equius, Nepeta, Windswept Questant, Aimless Renegade, Snowman, and Brobot.
184** Spades Slick definitely counts. He was the former Archagent of Derse, built an entire civilization ''by himself'', was the leader of a gang of mobsters, was fighting against the crime syndicate of a time-travelling, indestructable demon, survived the beating of a First Guardian, '''destroyed an entire universe''', became a cyborg, recruited said crime syndicate to help him, and went toe to toe with said indestructable demon (although he was in an alternate version of Jack Noir's body, it still counts). Needless to say, he was killed off in one of the [[DroppedABridgeOnHim most anti-climactic ways possible]] for a character who has been around since the beginning of the comic.
185* ToyShip: All the main kid and troll characters are 13 for the first five acts. This was inevitable even before Hivebent threw TeenDrama into the mix.
186* TheUntwist:
187** The fact that Mr. Egbert is really just an ordinary businessman outside the home. Also lampshaded, since most of the readers had already expected this from very early on in the series.
188** And then Andrew Hussie wrote on his Formspring account that Aradia being DeadAllAlong was sufficiently foreseeable to deserve a fairly sarcastic treatment from the narration. [[SarcasmMode And yeah, it was totally foreseeable, Andrew, we'd have to be idiots to not be able to guess such a thing without any foreshadowing.]]
189*** To top it off, the page after the revelation about Aradia has one of the characters admitting she didn't see it coming and being reassured that that doesn't make her stupid.
190** None of these, however, compare to the stunning revelation that ''the trolls are really playing one game, not two''. The other two are at least handled in a normal fashion and then lampshaded with "yes, I know that was terribly obvious", but Hussie drew the line at this one and didn't even ''pretend'' to reveal it properly - the joke was instead "If we were spending a lot more time on the trolls, we'd gradually build up to this stunning revelation. And yes, it's totally a stunning revelation." Many fans did not like this at all.
191*** It was made obvious that the teams were unimportant by the fact that the trolls had never, ever, ever mentioned or referenced them at any point in their trolling up until then, though; and several characters (many of them with knowledge of the future) had said repeatedly that the the teams didn't actually matter.
192** At the beginning of Act 6, some doubted whether the Scratch worked due the ambiguity of its mechanics and began to expect the story to play on that, though it did not. As Andrew Hussie noted on his tumblr:
193---> There are lots of major curveballs thrown at you in HS. I personally don’t think this was one.
194** Calliope and Caliborn share the same body. Lampshaded by the throwaway manner in which this is finally revealed. And then Caliborn and Lord English are one and the same. This was practically confirmed in the former's first appearance.
195* {{Wangst}}
196** Parodied with John's angst towards his dad. His lack of a problem is lampshaded by Rose early on in Act 1. Also parodied with Rose - although her mother is in her view a legitimately unpleasant person, Rose seems to interpret her every action as an attempt to spite her.
197** Eridan spends a ''lot'' of time complaining about how hard things are for him - either GrowingUpSucks, how he can't seem to get a proper black or redrom, or how no one visits him. Then decides that everyone needs to join Jack or die, by his hand if necessary.
198** Darkleer, at least according to Mindfang, although that might just be her being unsympathetic.
199** Parodied again with Caliborn's soliloquy in Act 6 Act 6 Act 4, which he delivers while being at his most UnintentionallyUnsympathetic. It borders on {{Bathos}}.
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202[[folder:Audience reactions and Fandom related tropes]]
203* ArcFatigue:
204** Act 5 Act 1, otherwise known as Hivebent. Starts with AndNowForSomeoneCompletelyDifferent. Introduces ''12 new characters'' (we've seen a few of the trolls before, but the exposition and characterization really takes off here), in an entirely new world, which [[FirstLawOfMetafictionalThermodynamics slows the story to a crawl]]. As the story goes character by character - in AnachronicOrder even - it becomes even more confusing and thus fatiguing - the "cycle of revenge" plot is the worst offender. It doesn't tie in with the original story until the very last few scenes narrated by Aradia. Overall, it's a rerun of the first half of the story, with three times as many characters, until you wonder if the author will ever get back to the original quartet.
205*** Specifically in this arc, there's the matter of the sudden focus on Vriska, who was up 'til then an unseen and unmentioned character. The implementation of the character in this arc (as well as the arc immediately following this one) is what made the character such a BaseBreakingCharacter to begin with.
206** What's even worse than that? Act 5 Act 2. Lots of characters, lots of jumping around, lots of information dropped randomly and sporadically. Many people fatigued with Act 5 Act 1 gave up at this time. In fact, all of Act 5 can be seen as this, as Act 5 in total took up ''nearly half the webcomic at the time spent on it alone''.
207*** The Murderstuck arc. This caused a lot of anger in the fandom as to some, the deaths seemed pointless, and it was a stark change from the lack of main character deaths in the story prior.
208*** The slow pace of an arc centering around Gamzee manipulating Terezi, who was not really doing a whole bunch.
209*** The [o]termission, which lasted about 3 months, over a quarter of Act 5 Act 2.
210** And after Act 5 Act 2, Act 6 was seen by most people as even worse, especially by people who feel that the B2 kids are unnecessary characters added just to stretch the comic even longer. The sudden focus on a romantic sidestory didn't help matters.
211*** The end of Act 6 Act 3 spends a lengthy amount of time introducing the Pre-Scratch trolls who do ''literally'' nothing in the story and are there purely for fans to obsess over.
212*** The shortest instance of this trope within ''Homestuck'' is easily the introduction of the Tricksters, who were ([[WordOfGod According to Hussie]]) added specifically to pander to the fanartists and whose advent brought an already dragging Act 6 to a total screeching halt - though they ''did'' get a lot done fairly quickly for the most part, as was the Juju's purpose, until they went completely insane. The arc only seemed to exist so that there could be another lengthy nod to the fandom for no particular reason. The changeback to the normal B2 kids afterwards was generally seen as a big relief to most people dreading the Tricksters.
213** The majority of Act 6 Act 6 Intermission 1 can be described as a gigantic text wall with nothing important happening.
214* ArchivePanic: ''Homestuck'' is a work of over 8,130 pages and over 810,000 words (which, for frame of reference, makes it nearly three times as long as ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''. Obviously, the task of reading it all proves to be '''extremely''' daunting.
215* AudienceAlienatingPremise: ''Homestuck'' is so notorious for the trope that fans of the comic trying and inevitably failing to get their peers interested in reading it has become a meme unto itself[[note]]"LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT HOMESTUCK"[[/note]]. This is mostly due to the sheer size of the project (8127 pages in total when it ''finally'' finished, which vary in length from single images to WallOfText chat logs to ''interactive Flash games''); the complexity of the plot making it impossible to explain to the uninitiated; and the video game-centric nature of it. Additionally, in order fully get all the jokes, it is almost a prerequisite that you read the three comics that came before it: ''Webcomic/ProblemSleuth'', which is a monumental read in and of itself, ''Webcomic/BardQuest'', an unfinished experiment, and ''Webcomic/{{Jailbreak}}'', the first, and as a consequence the least polished of all the creator's work. And on top of all this, in order to reach the parts anyone talks about, you have to read through a good 1500 pages of buildup; even the ''fanbase'' jokes about how slow and boring the first two chapters are.
216* AwardSnub: The absolutely breathtaking "Cascade" animation only made a meager Daily 5th Place award. This may be justified due to the fact that the file itself crashed Website/{{Newgrounds}} shortly after it was uploaded, preventing people from voting for it.
217* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: It has all the Awesome Art. [[MemeticMutation All of it.]] On another note, [[GrandFinale Act 7]] was pretty much this as a whole.
218* BigLippedAlligatorMoment:
219** During the Act 4 finale, we see B1 Jack slaughtering the armies of Prospit and Derse, and smashing Skaia and Prospit's moon together. Then we have a quick Squiddles! clip.
220** The - usually extremely strange - authorial inserts are parodying the fan reactions to the events prior, see CreatorBacklash below for more information. Given proper context in that sense, they are not [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment this trope]] but to a reader not aware of the fandom at large, they are indeed. Another example would probably be the out of nowhere Tavros and Gamzee rap battle late in Act 5, which is Andrew's nod to them being a popular pairing by that point. A lot of the story is shaped by what the fandom does and thinks, so not knowing that entirely or being a fan disconnected from the fandom can cause some moments to be rather odd.
221** The entirety of Act 6 Act 5 Act 2 is so utterly bizarre Hussie outright says in story that they should never speak of it again, though the events remain canon.
222** The Act 6 Interfishin. Because no backstory is too important to be interrupted by a bunch of trolls playing an elevator song on a pirate ship in space.
223** An early one occurs in the very first act, when you move a cake onto the bed. Not "you" as in John Egbert, but "you" as in you, the one currently reading. This ability to directly interact with the plot is only brought up again at the beginning of Act 3 and is never seen since. This may be the viewpoint of the Exiles.
224** The canon fan trolls appear on a planet with other troll children in another universe before getting destroyed. As they only last for one panel, this is never brought up again.
225** The flash where Jade grows multiple arms and plays the bass. Yes, it was a dream, but what the fuck?
226* CanonDefilement
227** John directly told Karkat he wasn't interested in him or any guy for that matter. John/Karkat and John/Dave remain some of the most popular ships in the fandom. Some fanfics will often have John say his previous "not a homosexual" was just a prank, in denial, that the statement does not preclude bi/pansexuality, or that [[IfItsYouItsOkay he's making an exception for Dave/Karkat.]]
228** Almost any ships that pair Kanaya with a guy or Dirk with a girl (or [[CrackPairing Kanaya with Dirk]]) due to their IncompatibleOrientation[=s=].
229* CrackPairing
230** Too many to list. There are multiple fanart and discussion threads dedicated to crack pairings, and the author himself has [[http://mspabooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=5899 drawn]] Colonel Sassacre/Lil' Cal.
231** To many, Gamzee/Tavros, considering they've spoken all of once in canon. Later made canon -- at least from Gamzee's point of view.
232** The ever-most-popular John/Karkat, often using the AlternateCharacterInterpretation of John in a TransparentCloset.
233* CreatorWorship: Andrew has mentioned that people are beginning to recognize him in public and apparently doesn't wear MSPA merch outside of cons anymore so they specifically don't because of how much they adore him.
234* CreatorsPet: Vriska. She even develops a romance with John and is more important than Karkat, the designated main troll character. She also gets a sequence where Doc admits that she stood a fair chance at defeating B1 Jack Noir, i.e. the dog-man who blows up planets for fun. If that doesn't cry overpowered, nothing does. As with most things involving [[TeasingCreator Hussie,]] this was intentional. Lampshaded when Hussie's AuthorAvatar proposes to her. Taken to new heights when the culmination of Act 6 Act 6 Intermission 4 was John retroactively intervening to spare Vriska, whose presence alone drastically altered the timeline significantly for the better, and the accompanying [=A6A6I4=] flash ("shes8ack").
235* DieForOurShip: Unsurprisingly for a fandom with heavy amounts of shipping, several characters have become victim to undeserved hate.
236** Somebody really had it in for Equius. The "[[http://aradia-paradia.tumblr.com/post/142275971239/omegapause-tbh-its-been-7-years-of-homestuck Equara Hate Anon]]" became an infamous part of the fandom for ranting endlessly about why Aradia was better off with Sollux, even long after Equius fell from the spotlight and the Equara ship faded away. After all the insults, belittlement, and threats, to many artists for liking a fictional couple, the Equara Anon has earned their position as one of those more "out-there" fans. The other fans who write Equius off as abusive pale in comparison.
237** Jane suffers this from many a Jake/Dirk shipper being the girl in the way of one of the comics most popular m/m ships.
238** John tends to get a lot of heat as well as nearly all of his ships have popular f/f alternatives.
239* DracoInLeatherPants: Many antagonists have quite a number of fans, in spite of their [[KickTheDog actions]], [[EvilIsCool or because of them.]]
240** B1 Jack gets this lots.
241** Eridan. Ironic when you consider who he [[Literature/HarryPotter looks like]], isn't it?
242** Gamzee gets a bit of this treatment as well.
243*** Gamzee and Eridan at least have the excuse of being mentally unstable or outright insane. Jack, however, takes malicious glee in his kills and is completely sane, and yet fan depictions often play up his adorable doggy-ness or say he's not all that bad.
244** Vriska's murderous sides are often downplayed in fan works to simply being some sort of trickster type.
245** Caliborn, although he seems to be more of a LoveToHate kind of character.
246** Spades Slick gets a minor version of this, as his sympathetic traits are often played up by fans. While in canon he's ''definitely'' the most heroic and sympathetic iteration of Jack Noir, he's still a belligerent {{Jerkass}} mobster with a love of [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill overkill]]. Heck the Midnight Crew in general gets this; they ''are'' [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain Ineffectual Sympathetic Villains]] and have plenty of PetTheDog moments, they're also a group of gangsters who are introduced trying to off the competition (not that [[BigBad Lord English]] doesn't deserve it). Especially prominent upon his rather sudden death.
247* EnsembleDarkhorse:
248** Sentryworm, [=FedoraFreak=], Ms. Paint, Secret Wizard and Crumplehat out of the miscellaneous characters.
249** Bro Strider was wildly popular for how unabashedly cool he was, with his ridiculous speed and unbreakable katana allowing him to cut meteors in half, fight off cosmic villains, and make ventriloquism ''awesome''. However, as it became increasingly clear that Bro's training traumatized Dave, Bro's popularity rotted away until he largely became seen as an evil, manipulative parent with no care for the child he was responsible for.
250** Karkat's lusus was well-loved for his interesting design and his understated love for Karkat, which made him ripe for fan works.
251** The trolls receive a vastly disproportionate amount of fanart compared to their amount of featured time. Probably because they expanded the main cast by 300%, are all sorts of messed up, have a system of romance which allows people to remain technically monogamous while simultaneously being paired with multiple people, and have no concept of gender-specific sexuality. Even among the trolls, one character stands above all the others in terms of fan-love-to-appearances, thanks in large part to a simple comment made by Hussie himself. To wit: "There are major characters, and there are minor ones. If you're waiting for me to fire up NEPETAQUEST 2011, don't hold your breath." The end result? At least ''two'' major Nepetaquest fan projects underway, and Nepeta probably has more art of her extant than any other individual troll.
252** Andrew indicated that The Felt were just one shot characters without any real personalities to speak of, but that hasn't stopped the fans from loving these guys to death. Even more telling is the fact that while we're supposed to root for the Midnight Crew, most fans felt sorry whenever a Felt member was killed off. Clover in particular gets a lot of love. This has been strengthened by their appearances in Act 6.
253** The original Ensemble Darkhorses were the Exiles, all of them at one time, but most especially PM.
254*** Their deaths brought about an outpouring of sympathy, and PM rocketed up in popularity.
255*** WV is still massively popular as well, though the fact that he's PluckyComicRelief keeps him from widespread popularity.
256** Let's not forget the cheers that erupted when the Midnight Crew showed up officially.
257** Squarewave and Sawtooth became very popular pretty rapidly.
258** Porrim is very popular among the CastHerd that is the A1 trolls, [[MsFanservice unsurprisingly]].
259** Fefetasprite quickly became the most popular of the Alpha Sprites.
260** Even though they show up for all of ''one panel'' before being obliterated, the AscendedFanon OriginalCharacter Trolls Mierfa Durgas and Nektan Whelan have recieved quite a bit of fanart and praise.
261** The Ψiioniic, especially after his hilarious appearance over in ''Webcomic/ParadoxSpace'' (where he's portrayed as an insane LargeHam who loves the Sufferer so much it causes him to ''spontaneously shoot lasers from his eyes'') where he got a massive boost in popularity and many fans now cite him as their favorite ancestor.
262** As a result of her CharacterDevelopment, Roxy quickly became the most popular of the Alpha Kids.
263* EthnicScrappy: Meenah's character includes several [[JiveTurkey stereotypical black elements]]. She and her villainous alternate universe counterpart are the only characters in the entire comic that speak that way. Additionally, Damara Medigo, seems to be a parody of the hypersexualised "submissive Japanese schoolgirl" stereotype. Notably, neither of these characters are exceptionally good people and both of their alternate selves have ended up working under the BigBad as his slaves. Despite this, it's Downplayed as both characters are fairly popular in the fanbase, despite not being characters that are not introduced until pretty late in the story.
264* EpilepticTrees: The WMG pages are ''huge''. It's safe to say Homestuck inspires a lot of theories.
265** Fan theories about Doc Scratch's identity when he was just known as "White Text Guy" ranged everywhere from Lord English, to a Ophiuchus-themed troll, to Bec, to an ObfuscatingStupidity Karkat.
266** Dave Strider is the in-universe author of Webcomic/SweetBroAndHellaJeff, and the comics often allude to events in Homestuck. So whenever a new [=SBaHJ=] comic comes out, there are a lot of crazy theories about what it might be foreshadowing.
267** There's a theory that [[http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/829/265/3c4.jpg a tweet of a horse .GIF]] is actually Hussie telling the fans when the Gigapause is going to end (October 8th, 2014 - a week and a day before the first anniversary of the Gigapause) - which would be supported by him also tweeting that he's been at his busiest. This was eventually supported by Hussie's own statements that the Gigapause would finally end in October, albeit a little later than October 8th.
268* FanficFuel: Act 7 ends with our heroes living together happily on a newly created universe. The fandom, naturally, jumped on the potential for fluffy, domestic stories about post-victory relaxation.
269** The credits and epilogue provide plenty of other fuel: the coexistence of the Human, Troll, Carapace, and Consort Kingdoms; Terezi searching for Vriska around the newly-formed Green Black Hole (which is consuming the very fabric of the Furthest Ring); whoever hacked secure [=CrockerCorp=] systems to try and assassinate Jane...
270* FandomRivalry: With ''Webcomic/HetaliaAxisPowers'' and with ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''. Slash ships mostly for the first, both coming to prominence on 4chan at the same time for the second. Dirk turning out to like [[EnsembleDarkhorse Rainbow Dash]], Kurloz and Meulin using ''MLP'' reaction images, and both the ''Homestuck'' and ''MLP'' fandoms becoming somewhat less prominent over time reduced the fandom fighting on that front. The ''Hetalia'' rivalry reached its zenith in December '11 with fans (or Funimation; it was never conclusively proved one way or the other) ironically buying adspace for it on ''[=MSPA=]'' before realizing the whole thing was somewhat stupid to begin with. The fandoms have [[FriendlyFandoms set aside their differences and declared themselves moirails]].
271* {{Fanon}}:
272** There's a common notion that [[BizarreAlienReproduction troll sex]] involves the couple vomiting into a filial pail after making out. This can be traced back to one single piece of Sollux/Aradia fan art, and has no basis in canon.
273** There's also the idea that all trolls have tentacle penises, and do an assortment of things (depending on who's telling the headcanon) to acquire genetic material from them. The concept has become so popular in the fandom that there are headcanons about this headcanon regularly being made.
274** The trolls' nipples are also generally drawn as being [[AlienBlood the same colour as their blood]]; however, [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006612 they are later shown as being grey]], matching their skin. That hasn't stopped the fanartists, of course.
275** Trolls are often drawn in fanart with a ring around their irises corresponding to their blood colour. This continues even after WordOfGod has {{Jossed}} it, probably because it would give away that Karkat has mutant blood. However, later updates seem to have canonized it: although the Ancestors are stylistically depicted with either [[TheFaceless no eyes]] or solid colors, Nepeta's Ancestor (the Disciple) is depicted as having green-ringed, orange eyes in [[http://mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005959 one panel]], furthering the theory of the "main twelve" Troll kids being too young to have developed eye colors.
276** Trolls are sometimes depicted as being literally warm- or cold-blooded, with trolls whose blood comes in warm colors having noticeably higher body temperatures than trolls in the green-blue-purple spectrum.
277** There's the notion that Dave is a redhead. According to WordOfGod, [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1488663404 he's blond]].
278** A number of fanfics give Ms. Lalonde's first name as Lily. This is likely to go with her daughter's name, Rose. Later {{Jossed}}, as it turns out it's actually Roxy.
279** Bro's first name was often assumed to be "Broderick". It was later {{jossed}} by the revelation that it's actually Dirk.
280** There's also the idea, which is relatively common in some fanfics, that the trolls' horns are erogenous zones.
281** Vriska, Feferi and Aradia are often portrayed as chubby or overweight, although in canon they look no larger than the other troll girls.%%Andrew Hussie's Formspring posts regarding this haven't helped...%%Why?
282** Eridan's lusus has no importance to the canon whatsoever. In fanon, he gives Eridan a FreudianExcuse for his assholery.
283** A number of fanworks have taken to portraying Terezi's love of red chalk as being [[ICantBelieveItsNotHeroin akin to a drug addiction]]. [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004993 It helps that another character in canon actually suggests something like this.]]
284** The fandom has decided that Karkat is shorter/smaller than most of the other trolls (excepting Nepeta in some cases) thanks to Equius describing him as a "tactical midget" at one point (although whether he was referring to Karkat's physical height or strategic capacities is anybody's guess).
285** In the same vein, Gamzee is often drawn as the tallest of the trolls, despite canonically being too short to ride a unicycle.
286** One common tendency in fanon is to apply colours to the original clothing of each of the kids, which is all drawn as white. Generally the colours match their respective merchandise shirts from Topatoco (John = pale blue, Rose = pale purple, Dave = red, Jade = white with black sleeves), but everything else they wear doesn't have similar basis. Within an hour of his first appearance, people decided that Jake's jacket was a medium-green in order to match his shirt logo.
287** It's also very common to depict Bro as a big anime geek. This was originally based on the fact that his TriangleShades resembled [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Kamina's]], though Andrew originally had no idea of the connection. It was also a very popular theory that Dirk would be the same, though this was ultimately {{Jossed}}. Andrew has included a few {{Fandom Nod}}s to all this, firstly with a reference to Bro's glasses as being 'dumb pointy anime shades' and then a mention of 'roaring manga fires' and the like shortly after Dirk's introduction, but that's all.
288** It's common to depict Karkat using two sickles, something that he has never done in canon. This becomes AscendedFanon in ''Collide''.
289** It's pretty common to see fanfics referring to Dave's full first name as being David; likewise, Roxy is generally said to be short for Roxanne. Despite this being a reasonable interpretation, it's never been corroborated by canon, and Hussie has explicitly stated that their names are not nicknames -- with the ([[TeasingCreator possibly]]) joking exception of Sollux, whose full name is supposedly ''Solluxander''.
290** A related, but more minor, example involves Dave's middle name being [[EmbarrassingMiddleName Elizabeth]] (no, really). That one started out as a joke, but it's taken on something of a life of its own.
291** Because Her Imperious Condescension is always shadowed except for some minor details, it is unknown where her clothing ends and her skin begins, the only clues being that it is at least the glowing Pisces sign on her body, skin-tight, and includes something that covers her feet. Fan art depicts her outfit as ranging from a full bodysuit to a bikini. According to an ImagineSpot from Meenah, [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009666 it's a bodysuit.]][[note]]Hover the mouse over the third square in the top row.[[/note]]
292** Eridan is often depicted as tall and gaunt, to fit his intimidating, lonely personality.
293** For whatever reason, Dad's first name is almost always said to be James in fanfiction. In canon, all we know is that his surname is Egbert (or, in the post-Scratch universe, Crocker); everything else is nothing but speculation.
294** Despite the dream bubbles being strictly tied to SBURB and only canonically containing the ghosts of dead players, many fan works and headcanons have characters with no ties to the game, such as the trolls' Ancestors, persisting within them as well.
295** In artwork depicting the trolls as humans, it's very common for Vriska to be depicted as tall and blonde and Terezi as short and redheaded.
296** Despite dream bubbles being SBURB-related, there's many fans that agree the Ancestors, upon death, all remet in the afterlife, either making amends or calling each other out for what they did.
297** In some fanworks featuring Spades Slick, calling him "Jack Noir" is a BerserkButton for him. In canon, it's only discussed once and Doc Scratch notes that he don't seem to care about what name he's called.
298** Some fanartists draw Feferi's outfit as a transparent skirt over a one-piece swimsuit. In the comic proper, the skirt is always opaque and the top could still just be a black shirt.
299** One that cropped up early on was the idea that [[LookingForLoveInAllTheWrongPlaces Eridan]] is actually [[UsefulNotes/{{Asexuality}} asexual]], but because Troll Society considers reproduction to be mandatory, he doesn't understand the concept (just as Karkat didn't understand the concept of being gay until John explained it to him). His desperation for a partner in this case stems less from actually wanting one and more from the knowledge that when the time comes, he'll likely be killed for not having one, and thus being scared and frustrated over his lack of attraction to anyone.
300* FauxSymbolism: The trolls are each associated with a zodiac sign. The kids each have an element. Everyone has a DNA pair. And none of it matters.[[labelnote: On the other hand...]]A good amount of these do have symbolic significance. For example, the Cruxite Artifacts of each kid represent their individual departures, both into the Medium and from their old ways of life. In John's case, the apple represents the abandonment of innocence in favor of knowledge (additionally, knowledge and deep thought are associated with Air). For Rose, the bottle represents a leap of faith (appropriately, she jumped off a waterfall to retrieve it) and the necessity to trust her server player, Dave. Traditionally, bottles are also used to christen new vessels at sea, tying it into her classical element as well. Dave's is an egg that must be given enough time to hatch, tying in to his larger bird motif and his storyline seeking an identity separate from his Bro. Jade has a tree, like her brother John, but this one drops a Bec-shaped pinata that she has to break -- like how prototyping Bec subsequently breaks the game and forces the Scratch.[[/labelnote]]
301%%* FountainOfMemes: See MemeticMutation below.
302* FriendlyFandoms:
303** With ''Webcomic/{{Paranatural}}'' after the author Zack Morrison's frequent and well-received contributions to ''Webcomic/ParadoxSpace''.
304** With ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}''. Both series share ''VideoGame/{{EarthBound|1994}}''-inspired roots, similar tones, and the game features a few nods to Homestuck proper. Helping this is that Toby and a number of the game's contributors worked on ''Homestuck'', and Toby himself is working on ''Homestuck''[='s=] own video game.
305** With ''Literature/JohnDiesAtTheEnd'', what with both sharing a similar mixture of absurdist humor and Lovecraftian horror, and CloneAngst and DeathIsASlapOnTheWrist being prominent plot pieces in both series. Also, the main characters are named John and Dave.
306** Thanks to Steam's [[https://steamcommunity.com/games/743450/announcements/detail/5819189568976752687 "Long Story Short" bundle]], fans of ''VisualNovel/VA11HALLA'', ''Homestuck'' and ''VideoGame/CoffeeTalk'' soon came into the fandom, with them prompting others to try their games and make crossovers out of it.
307* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: After the comic ended, it began cultivating a [[CultClassic small but dedicated]] Asian (mainly South Korean) fanbase, bolstered by the release of ''VideoGame/{{Hiveswap}}'' ACT 1. The troll characters in particular are very popular among South Koreans.
308* GrowingTheBeard: It's generally agreed that the comic starts to reach its potential at Act 2 and Act 3, in which the mythology of Sburb is greatly expanded upon.
309* HesJustHiding:
310** Happens with several characters, most often Bro. It was probably invoked when Jane was caught in a mailbox explosion... and then found to be sleeping unharmed behind her house.
311** Spades Slick seems to get a lot of this whenever it seems like he might have died ([[TheChewToy which is often]]). A fan once asked Hussie if Spades was okay after ''a universe imploded with him in it''.
312** Earlier, it was common for fans to speculate that when a character died it was really an AlternateTimeline and didn't actually happen. In what might be a FandomNod, Jack Noir's apparent killing of Karkat and Terezi was in fact an alternate timeline, as was the death of Spades Slick seen a short time later.
313* HilariousInHindsight: [[https://twitter.com/dave_ebubbles dave_ebubbles]], which began in an Act 6 Intermission 3 Flash, was a parody of the Twitter account [[https://twitter.com/Horse_ebooks Horse_ebooks]]. Then ARG/PronunciationBook happened. [[https://twitter.com/andrewhussie/status/382702958028128256 Here's Hussie's reaction:]]
314-->"wait, my favorite horse account WASN'T a robot? I FEEL CHEATED!"\
315\
316-Consumer entitlement, knowing no bounds
317%%* HypeAversion: In part due to some of the fandom's less-than-pleasant aspects.
318%%* HypeBacklash: Most of it comes from the slow pace of the Act 1.%%Most of what?
319* IdiosyncraticShipNaming: In addition to standard portmanteaus and names spliced together with quadrant signs (e.g. Karezi/Karkat<3Terezi or Johnkat/John<3<Karkat), making up creative ship names is a popular pastime in the fandom. The results range from widely-used mainstays to offhand jokes and from the serious to the completely ridiculous. If you can think of a pairing, no matter how cracky, it probably has a pairing name. Among the most common:
320** "Grimdorks" for Rose/John (John is a [[LovableNerd dork]], and Rose once [[ItMakesSenseInContext went grimdark]]).
321** "Hammertime" for John/Dave. Also "Pepsicola" for their associated colors.
322** "Communism" for John/Karkat (based on their strife specibi -- a hammer and a sickle, respectively).
323** "Con Heir" and "[=Spider8reath=]" for John/Vriska, as John has the [[BlowYouAway Breath]] aspect and Vriska has a prominent spider motif.
324** "Blue's Clues" for John/Terezi. John has a prominent blue color motif, while Terezi is obsessed with criminal investigations.
325** "Breathalyzer" for John/Roxy, combining the Breath aspect with Roxy's former alcoholism. Other names include "Roxygen" (another air pun) and "Void of Air"/"Void of Heir" (this one riffing on Roxy's Void aspect and John's Heir class).
326** "Windicuffs" for John/Jake, as breath is John's aspect and Jake is fond of GoodOldFisticuffs.
327** "Whip My Heir" for [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight Aradia/John]], combining John's class and Aradia's pre-death preferred weapon.
328** "Guns n' Roses" for Rose/Jade, since Jade likes guns and Rose... [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin yeah]].
329** "Rosemary" for Rose/Kanaya (a [[PortmanteauCoupleName portmanteau]] using part of Kanaya's surname).
330** "Spacetime" for Jade/Dave, based on their respective Sburb aspects.
331** "Stridercest" for Bro/Dave, Dirk/Dave or [[ScrewYourself Dirk/Bro]].
332** "Strawberry Jam" for Dave/Gamzee, after Gamzee referred to Dave's blood as this.
333** "Dersecest" for Rose/Dave and "Prospitcest" for John/Jade (based on their shared dream planets); Dave/Rose is also known as Knightlight, based on their class and aspect respectively.
334** "Cotton Candy" for Jane/Roxy (based on their chat colors: light blue and pink, respectively). The name got a couple of {{Fandom Nod}}s in the comic.
335** "Cotton Condy" for Roxy/Meenah (the pre-Scratch Condesce).
336** "Pumpkin Patch" for Dirk/Jake (based on uu's comment on their orange and green chat colors), though the significantly more ridiculous "Pistol Pony Rodeo" is arguably even more common.
337** "Motherfucker" for Gamzee/Roxy (Roxy is the post-Scratch Mom Lalonde, and "motherfucker" is Gamzee's favorite word).
338** "Scourgecest" for Terezi/Vriska, who are not related but were known as Team Scourge/the Scourge Sisters when they played Flarp together.
339** "Meowrails" for Nepeta♦Equius, combining the term "moirails" with Nepeta's love of cat puns.
340** "Peanut Butter and Jelly" for Gamzee/Tavros, based on [[AlienBlood their blood colors]].
341** "2% Milk" for Sollux/Equius (2 is Sollux's NumerologicalMotif and Equius likes milk and uses "%" in his typing quirk).
342** "We are Leijon" for any pairing of Nepeta and her ancestors (a play on their last name, Leijon).
343** [[GallowsHumor "Half & Half"]] for Eridan/Tavros (both wound up sliced in half).
344** "[surname]cest" for pairings with the trolls and their ancestors or the kids and their guardians (e.g. "Vantascest" for Karkat/Kankri).
345** "[=Les8ifins=]" for Aranea/Meenah, combining their typing quirks, or "Gillfronds".
346** "Subglub" for Grand Highblood/Condesce; GH is the leader of the Subjugglators, and the Condesce is an aquatic troll.
347** "Kanned Tuna" for '''Kan'''kri/Mi'''tuna'''.
348** "Spaceshipping" for Kanaya/Jade and "Timeshipping" for Aradia/Dave (based on their shared Sburb aspects).
349** "I Just Had A Social Justice Aneurysm" for [[StraightGay Dirk]]/[[LipstickLesbian Kanaya]].
350** "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" for Dirk (who was born in what amounts to Texas) and Caliborn (the BigBad who has no qualms about murder in massive numbers, going as far as to annihilate the afterlife), being auspisticised by Kanaya (whose main weapon is a chainsaw).
351** "Separation of Church and State" for an auspisticising of Gamzee (a religious Highblood) and Terezi (an aspiring Legislacerator) by either Rose or Kanaya.
352* IKnewIt: The heavily reader-driven nature of the work causes this to happen a lot. "90% of calling it, is really influencing it in disguise." For example: Was anyone really suprised when it turned out that [[ObviouslyEvil Lil Cal]] had to do with the BigBad?
353* IntendedAudienceReaction:
354** Pretty much constantly since Act 5. YMMV of course whether it falls into this or poorly disguised AuthorsSavingThrow.
355** A number of people in the fandom considered the Trickster Mode Act to be a DeusExMachina and found the Tricksterfied versions of almost all of the characters to be annoying. Right after it's revealed that the whole thing was a MushroomSamba that left Jane completely freaked out about what happened, [[WordOfGod Hussie himself states]] to Caliborn that the characters can't simply be derailed into annoyingly happy versions of themselves and solve all of their problems instantaneously.
356* JustHereForGodzilla: A large portion of the fanbase is Just Here For The Trolls, to the chagrin of much of the rest of the fanbase.
357* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Due to the fandom's tendency to relentlessly ship everyone with everyone, the entire main cast could be classified as a launcher. This is especially true for the Trolls who are almost universally bisexual. Then there are the four quadrants, which open up a lot of options.
358* LoveToHate: Caliborn, known initially by his handle undyingumbrage. He's a rude, obnoxious, egotistical, self-centered, sexist, creepy '''little shit''' with no real redeeming qualities. And yet he's so freaking [[LaughablyEvil hilarious]] in nearly every appearance that few truly hate the character.
359* MemeticBadass: Bro Strider. Fans sometimes jokingly portray AR as this. As one commenter put it:
360-->"Jack is just lucky that AR left his rocket launcher out of reach. Otherwise, Homestuck would have ended early."
361* MemeticMolester:
362** Scratch's conversations with Rose and Jade have catapulted him into this category.
363** Terezi qualifies as well, to a lesser extent, mostly because of her obsession with licking and smelling things.
364** Caliborn, for creepily spying on Jane and Roxy throughout their session, and getting off to something simple as the two girls having a pillow fight. He also told Jane to strip down and make herself dirty for his pleasure, while calling her fat. His only excuse is that this is apparently how his species interacts with others.
365** Cronus's NoSenseOfPersonalSpace in regards to Mituna and his creepy behavior landed him in this trope.
366** The Condesce, possibly for kidnapping Roxy.
367** Rose is a more minor version, because of her [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006273 eyebrow funnybiz]] and handle, tentacleTherapist, which also seems to be a joke at this trope.
368** Jasprosesprite^2, from pawing Calliope's skull, to nuzzling Kanaya, to hitting on Jane, Jasprosesprite^2's NoSenseOfPersonalSpace and hyperactive attitude landed her here.
369** In Hussie's Condesce backstory [=Grandpa!Jake=] is veering into this territory, having had several wives and illegitimate children such as Harry Anderson and Ann Dunham (Barack Obama's mother).
370* MemeticMutation: [[Memes/{{Homestuck}} Now has its own page]].
371* MisaimedFandom:
372** A lot of fans who like Vriska seem to think that [[IDidWhatIHadToDo she's just doing what's needed]] and ignore how the comic depicts her as incompetent, pointlessly mean, and hated. Often they bring up her "you don't have to be a good person to be a hero" speech as a major awesome moment, ignoring that Vriska herself admits soon after that said speech was basically just a temper tantrum over her not getting her way.
373** Even though the comic debunks the very nature of canon and the nature of Paradox Space basically means everything can be canon, and the author is a notorious TrollingCreator, there are still fan wars over whether certain ships or fan interpretations are "canon," with some getting mad at other fans having headcanons that contradict the "canon."
374* {{Narm}}:
375** Some feel this way about the line "I THINK I GAVE HIM CANCER". Karkat tends to attract Narm whenever he acts serious and remorseful, mostly because it's relatively rare and he's bad at it.
376** Though that may also be from the way works like ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'' and ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' have desensitized audiences to the word ''cancer''. In a charity commercial begging for research funds, references to cancer are usually viewed as heartbreaking; in a webcomic prone to silliness, it's more likely to be PlayedForLaughs (which in this case it wasn't, but the expectation totally ruined the effect). Doesn't help that, even though it's a serious moment, it's a pun on Karkat's zodiac sign being Cancer.
377* NightmareRetardant: With the Trolls' Murderstuck arc, Hussie is trying to have have both comedy and horror at once. It doesn't really work that way.
378* OneSceneWonder: Fedorafreak has never appeared in person; his name shows up in the background on Dad's chat client once in Act 1 and twice in Act 5, well over a year later. Despite this, he achieved memetic status on the forums. During the [o]termission, he takes center stage for a few pages, having somehow gotten into the Medium, alchemized a few worthless outfits, and apparently died on a Quest Bed after fighting some imps.
379* OneTrueThreesome:
380** This is a common solution to the Eridan/Feferi/Sollux LoveTriangle, especially with Eridan's (unrequited) black crush on Sollux.
381*** Also done with Aradia/Sollux/Feferi due to the ambiguity of Aradia and Sollux's relationship (mentioned above in BrokenBase).
382** The scene from Act 7 with Dave, Karkat, and Jade sitting together for a picnic coupled with the ending's ambiguity, lead to many people jumping on to them as an [=OT3=]. The credits seem to confirm it, as Dave and Karkat are shown spending equal amounts of time with each other ''and'' Jade, and all three of them apparently live together.
383* ParanoiaFuel:
384** John, Rose, and Dave have graffiti scrawled all over their walls... that they put there themselves but their mind won't let them perceive it. How do you know the same hasn't happened to ''you''?
385** Doc Scratch's "Don't turn your back on the body" message, directed to Karkat.
386* PopCultureHoliday: The comic's various {{Arc Number}}s inspired fans to reference ''Homestuck'' on days that match up with them (April 13 for 413, June 12 for 612, October 25 for 1025, and November 11 for 1111), which also double up as anniversaries for certain updates. This is also encouraged by the team, as later updates and other ''Homestuck''-related news are released on those days.
387* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap:
388** Eridan regretting his actions and his apologizing to Fefetasprite endeared him to some readers.
389** Pre-Retcon Vriska learning from Aranea's mistakes and finally showing real, proper self-awareness as to the terrible things she's done turned the opinions of even some of her more dedicated detractors. She became even more popular with fans after her meeting with Post-Retcon Vriska and dumping from Meenah, which not only made clear how much of a better person she had become than Post-Retcon Vriska, but helped make her more tragic and sympathetic.
390* SeasonalRot: Everything post-Cascade has been a lot more divisive and had many more criticisms/detractors. Most of the reasons boil down to repeating Act 5's [[BrokenBase fandom-splitting qualities]] (introducing more "player"-type characters heavy on dialogue, those characters having LoveDodecahedron issues, and [[ArcFatigue prolonging the comic]] to the extent that Act 6 is longer than even Act 5 in page count) but without as much to redeem it. Other controversial moments don't help, such as the Trickster segment, the intentionally unlikable majority of the pre-scratch trolls, and several jokes that came off as mean-spirited even by the comic's standards.
391* SelfFanservice: The kids are rarely drawn as children, the trolls as monsters, or the carapaces as alien chess things by the fans.
392** You'd be surprised at all the SelfFanservice Tavros gets, portraying him as having a toned torso from all the wheelchairing around, and typically portrayed as the tallest troll standing.
393* {{Shipping}}: [[SeriousBusiness Probably the most sacred thing among the fandom]]. Fans can get pretty opinionated about the nature of the quadrants (how much is nature and how much is nurture) and the feasibility of healthy troll-human romance in various quadrants. At one extreme, some fans insist that human/troll pairings could work in any quadrant, at the other extreme, some fans insist that human/troll are doomed due to psychological differences, even in the flushed quadrant.
394* ShockingMoments:
395** "Descend". As the title implies, this is the point where everything falls apart. Jack Noir devastates the battlefield, initiates the Reckoning, and destroys Prospit's moon, an act which forces Jade's dream self to pull a HeroicSacrifice for Dream John. John sends off the meteors holding the kids' and their guardian's younger selves to the past. Bec is created, Bro and Noir face off in a duel that begins the scratch, Dave makes his way to his first gate, and Rose destroys her first gate in an effort to ScrewDestiny.
396** "Cascade". The end of the [[ArcFatigue lengthy]] Act 5, the climax of the story up until that point. The Scratch is initiated, the kids prepare to journey into the Alpha Session, they all ascend to god tier, they leave behind their own universes and they set off The Tumor which actually CREATES the Green Sun, B1 Jack Noir continues his murderous rampage but finally meets his match in PM... but the best of all? It was uploaded on [[ArcNumber 10/25]], 1025 being the sum of the other two {{Arc Number}}s, 413 and 612, and it was so hyped up and amazing that it ''broke'' Newgrounds and a few other sites temporarily because of all of the traffic of people wanting to see it. 10/25 became known as the day that Homestuck broke the internet.
397** "Game Over" matches "Cascade" in this department. Karkat, Gamzee, Kanaya, Dave, Jake, and Jane all die in the span of a few minutes. Unlike Cascade, however, it's eventually wiped from canon.
398** "Collide". The end of the [[ArcFatigue even LONGER]] Act 6, the final battle that every major player has been building up for. Every main character has a hand in taking down the main villains in an eighteen minute long flash. Such highlights include Lord English fighting Vriska and Meenah's ghost army, Roxy slaying the Condesce, Jake defeating a bunch of Felt mobsters, the Striders and Terezi defeating two Jacks, and PM finally taking Bec Noir down. The entire flash animation is just full of action and was quite an intense final battle, showing the long running story of Homestuck is finally drawing to a close.
399** [[GrandFinale Act 7]]. Any pretense of still resembling flash animation is obliterated as Homestuck finally goes full anime, showing the new Genesis Frog being born, Vriska and the ghost army confronting Lord English and unleashing the juju, Caliborn destroying his own God Tier clock and gaining immortality, Alt!Calliope destroying the Green Sun, and a flash-forward showing [[EarnYourHappyEnding the kids, trolls, and Prospitians and Dersites living happily on a rebuilt Earth]].
400* SlowPacedBeginning:
401** {{Inverted|Trope}}, in a sense - Act 1 (the beginning) with John floundering about in his room sets up and explains Sburb pretty quickly, but by the time of Act 5, the plot has become [[KudzuPlot incredibly convoluted, confusing, and dramatic]]. In fact, each Act can basically be considered a somewhat different style of story. Fans of ''Webcomic/ProblemSleuth'' have been a bit put off by the drastic change in style. Note that it has been stated the slow beginning of ''Homestuck'' was intentional.
402** The trolls might have been written too well, or badly, as they came across to readers as off-putting as they were to the main characters. Then twelve of them with accompanying [[WallOfText walls of text]] hijacked the story and severely throttled the pace. With CharacterDevelopment and [[ArtShift art shifts]], some managed to [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap gain sympathy enough to shed Scrappyhood]], while others sunk appropriately to LoveToHate revulsion.
403* {{Squick}}:
404** Jade's grandfather collected the corpse of her dream self... and ''stuffed'' it. And then Jade proceeded to do the same to him when he died. As a ''toddler''.
405** Gamzee is implied to have made out with Tavros' severed head at points in late Act 5 Act 2.
406** Spade Slick and Snowman "hate snogging" near the end of Act 5 Act 2. It's not them kissing, it's the gratuitous close-up and the fact that their faces are ''[[FanDisservice covered in blood]]''. Not to mention they're basically making out on top of the corpses of several Felt members. Lampshaded by Doc Scratch, who flips out when he sees this.
407** Spades Slick isn't actually dead, and Andrew Hussie is nursing him back to health after making him a cyborg. No problem. He is nursing him back to health with milk "fresh from the Butler's teat". The Butler in question being a version of Aurthour.
408** Davepeta tells Jasprose that they're okay with going on a date, because they can't have kids as they're both dead and trolls have no incest taboo. Both the Dave and Rose components of the sprites are screaming and disgusted about it, and so are a lot of the audience.
409** In Hussie's Condesce backstory there's a ''lot'' of this, including the Condesce almost literally harvesting Oliver Hardy's genetic material and right up to [=Nanna!Jane=] having sex with Stan Laurel on a couch while being watched by Adolf Hitler's decapitated head.
410* StrangledByTheRedString:
411** John and Vriska both in regards to one another; it's hard to imagine the John in earlier Acts being okay with a serial killer crushing on him, and likewise up until she started talking to John, Vriska had few to no redeeming qualities. Later updates in Act 6 have John realize that it was ridiculous of him to even have considered her as a romantic possibility, both because they had only known each other for a day and because of the aforementioned serial-killing.
412** Jack Noir and PM's shipping is even more controversial, though more subdued. Helped by the fact that it's completely one-sided in-universe (PM hates Jack more than anything in the world for obvious reasons).
413** For some who had been hoping for an ending on the Dave/Terezi/Karkat love triangle, whether they ship Dave/Terezi or Karakt/Terezi, the sudden introduction of Dave/Karkat in the retcon timeline came off as this. All the development happens off-screen, and there's little real foreshadowing for it prior to then.
414** Parodied with Jasprosesprite^2, a part-cat sprite who quickly tries to date and marry [[CatGirl Nepetasprite]], despite her clear apprehension about dating someone she hardly even knows. Then Davesprite, who's ''sorta'' the brother of Jasprosesprite^2 and also [[AnimalJingoism part bird]], [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments accidentally merges with Nepetasprite]].
415--->'''Jasprosesprite^2:''' [[BigNo NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!]]
416* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: One of Vriska's {{leitmotif}}s, "[[http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/shes-a-sp8der She's a Sp8der]]," contains a version of the ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' theme "He's a Pirate."
417** [[http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/ohgodcat Ohgodcat]] from coloUrs and mayhem: Universe B is similar to [[Music/TheJGeilsBand Centerfold]].
418** Also, [[http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/flying-car Flying Car]] from One Year Older is similar to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc34Uj8wlmE Blue Rondo à la Turk]].
419** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmbJ_NU4I5M Heir Conditioning]] also often get's comparisons to [[Franchise/TouhouProject Cirno's]] theme [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIZ12EQ2SFg Beloved Tomboyish Daughter]].
420* TakeThatScrappy:
421** Roxy [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=008567 meets Aranea]] and immediately chews her out [[SmugSnake on several things]] that bothered people about her.
422*** Dirk also gets so fed up with Aranea's smug attitude that he [[YourSoulIsMine rips her soul out of her body.]]
423** Post-retcon Vriska gets this when pre-retcon Tavros shows up with a gigantic ghost army that he managed to gather all by himself and tells Vriska to suck it. Then he does an extended victory jig while Vriska suffers an existential crisis over the fact that Tavros did something useful.
424** Gamzee, who had been a BaseBreakingCharacter due to killing [[EnsembleDarkhorse Nepeta and Equius]] and killing [[JerkassWoobie Karkat]] in [[BadFuture [S] GAME OVER]] gets thrown around, locked in a fridge during the battle in [S] Collide.
425* ThemePairing:
426** CrackPairing Eridan/Roxy is entirely based around their common interest in [[http://catnipcomics.tumblr.com/post/21286030863/wixard-boyyyy-widarf-wizard wizards]].
427** Amaterasu from ''VideoGame/{{Okami}}'' gets shipped with Bec because they're both dogs/wolves with godlike powers.
428* TooBleakStoppedCaring:
429** Act 5 Act 2 just kept getting bleaker and bleaker to the point where some fans just didn't want to follow it anymore. Fortunately it got better as the rest of the human kids ascended to Godtier, Jade used her new powers to save all the planets and their inhabitants in the kids' session from the Scratch, and there seemed to be no more troll deaths.
430** Then Act 6 comes around. Sure, there's some lulls in the seriousness of the act, but given all the complaints about it, the ArcFatigue, the BrokenBase, and sudden plot twists coming out of nowhere, it's not hard to see people stop reading it post-Act 5 Act 2.
431* UglyCute:
432** The trolls, to some people, with their gray skin, yellow eyes, and horns adding to their unusual charm
433** As of her reveal, Calliope is definitely adorable, with her enthusiastic green eyes overcoming her skeletal exterior. And if fan response and Hussie's trollish comments in [=A6I4=] are anything to go by, so is Caliborn (they do share a body after all).
434* UnintentionalUncannyValley: Characters are depicted either in miniature form (stylistically depicted without arms) or a more realistic 'Hero Mode'. What happens when you have Hero Mode with the miniature form's stubby feet and no arms? You get [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006353 this.]]
435* ViewerGenderConfusion:
436** A surprising number of people thought Kanaya was [[{{Bishonen}} a really girly boy]] before WordOfGod confirmed her gender. Mostly because the kids didn't know her gender and called her a him in their conversations.
437** Similarly, Terezi is often confused for a boy by outsiders thanks to her BoyishShortHair and red shades. Interestingly, her name source is Tiresias, a blind prophet who was turned into a woman and then back into a man at some point.
438* WatchedItForTheRepresentation: While already more popular than the author's previous works, ''Homestuck'' picked up a large new fanbase starting in Act 5 with the introduction of the Trolls, a race of bisexual-by-default aliens. Many people who picked up the comic later on in its run were drawn in by the comic's EveryoneIsBi nature, QueerRomance, and exploration of LGBT identity that started emerging around that time.
439* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Many people assume ''Homestuck'''s child-friendly, with its simplistic art style and a straightforward premise of four kids playing [[BlatantLies an ordinary long-awaited video game]]... only with numerous sexual references, [[CruelAndUnusualDeath brutal deaths]], and (an [[ClusterFBomb astounding number of creative]]) [[PrecisionFStrike swearings]].
440* WinBackTheCrowd:
441** Kanaya's return in Act 5 Act 2 as a rainbow drinker was a welcome turn from the grimdark of then recent developments, and the fanbase reacted in kind.
442** Hussie himself with his 4/13/11 news update -- now long gone -- showing that he ''does'' care about the fans, even if several panels are dedicated to trolling them.
443** And again with Doc Scratch suddenly interrupting the story and deciding to move things along after a month's long stretch of nothing happening.
444** And with the fans who disliked Scratch's storytelling or the [o]termission cheered as Andrew Hussie burst out of his study to start strangling Doc Scratch.
445** Jade's arrival in Alpha Session, along with the battleship, after the Trickster Arc, and all the TeenDrama that took up Act 6 Act 5.
446** The return of the Felt in the storyline and the focus being on Spades Slick for a change was a surely welcome change to the rampant text walling by Aranea and Vriska.
447** The last 30 pages of Act 6 Act 6 Intermission 2, after the not too popular events of the rest of [[TooBleakStoppedCaring Act 6]]. Which consists of Rose and Karkat's CharacterRerailment (After both facing serious BadassDecay, are ready to engage [[HeroKiller Gamzee]]), Jane [[ItMakesSenseInContext attacking Aranea in a robotic sleepwalk,]] and then the [[OrcusOnHisThrone Condesce]] ''[[OrcusOnHisThrone finally]]'' [[OrcusOnHisThrone arriving to the battle]].
448** "[S] Game Over" could be seen as Hussie's way of saying: "If anyone out there stopped caring after this year I'll have them back. With a Bang."
449** Many who had been disappointed by Act 6 were won back by "Collide". It is essentially Cascade 2.0, an eighteen minute long flash animation that's full of action, perfectly befitting the final battle against all of the main villains.
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