Line #34 YMMV/ElGoonishShive


1	* {{Adorkable}}:
2	** Elliot tries hard to be an intimidating badass and sometimes succeeds, but on the whole, he's a huggable fuzzball who just wants to be nice to everyone.
3	** Tedd too, Grace thinks so. [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2011-09-30 Hugs]].
4	** Susan qualifies too; [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2012-03-16 this]] is what we get to see when she's not in the Hammer Queen role. [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=1773 Or when she tries being more social]]. Or when [[http://www.egscomics.com/egsnp.php?id=405 she's explaining]] the DoubleStandard of nudity.
5	** Diane hides it slightly better than Susan but it's definitely there, while most people in Moperville are FantasticallyIndifferent she turns into a giddy fangirl over griffins, magic, and anything Nanase related, she was also quite shy about meeting Susan.
6	** Ashley shows signs of it [[spoiler:on her date with Elliot. Between her rambling in a crappy defense of a bookstore, and [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=2042 this]], it's hard to not want to hug her.]]
7	** Mist upon arriving on this side of the earth became a very big fan of human culture [[AliensStealCable through watching TV at the motel]], [[DiscoDan his references aren't particular current]].
8	* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
9	** Elliot tends to be confused about things a lot, like in [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=1543 the first review he did with Susan]], when he talks about being told to yell "a betrayal!" as an allusion to "[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment something about a spoon]]". ''[[ObfuscatingStupidity Except]]'' that, if you pay attention, [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=1539 one of the internet critics that Sarah was talking about when they were picking videos for the two to watch]] ''was'' the Spoony ... and [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=1532 he's played dumb before.]]
10	** Is Elliot really unaware that Justin has feelings for him, or is he aware and deciding to not confront Justin about it? There are several arguments you could make for either side, as well as reasoning as to why Elliot would act like that ... however, in lieu of the fact that Justin may or may not have just gotten over his crush off-screen, we may never know for sure what Elliot's stance on this subject was.
11	*** Supported by his initial reaction to Sarah's crush, way back at the beginning of the comic being almost exactly this.
12	** Pandora Chaos Raven. Single name, or IHaveManyNames? The latter seems far more likely, given "Chaos" is just what Magus was calling her because she refused to provide a name, and given she delivers the three in the middle of a speech about how it doesn't matter what he calls her. 3 separate names delivered dramatically is also far less [[{{Narm}} narmy]] than trying to stitch them awkwardly together. [[spoiler:It also ups the sweet factor of continuing to use her husband's name after all these years, if she's perfectly willing to respond to just "Raven" as a full name.]]
13	* AlternateSelfShipping: While Elliot and his OppositeSexClone Ellen would rather avoid thinking about it in the webcomic, there are naturally raunchy pics of them together.
14	* ArcFatigue: Utterly infamous for this. Storylines can go on for ''years'' in this comic, despite only taking place over a few days. Only about three or four months (not including flashbacks) have passed despite the comic having been around since 2002.
15	** The "Grace's Birthday Party" storyline is a particularly egregious example. Between the ArcFatigue and the ScheduleSlip, the events of a ''single evening'' took ''sixteen months''.
16	** The New and Old Flames portion of Bringing Silly Back ran for one month shy of a year. Add in Indiana Elliot, Hammerchlorians and the two small T-Minus entries and you have an arc that ran for just short of a year and a half real time.
17	** Death Sentence had a bad habit of dragging along; not to mention the central premise was flawed to begin with, with Grace and Raven outright admitting it would probably be kinder to simply kill the boar, considering they're ecologically damaging and huge pests. Though [[spoiler:given the eventual reveal that Rhoda is another person empowered without her knowledge, it's really a matter of mileage with this one. While it can be argued that it dragged a bit, Grace and Raven openly communicated about magical stuff, and it's clear that ANYONE could have magical powers without knowing it.]]
18	** The "So A Date At The Mall" arc is over a year's worth of strips taking place over a few hours, with the majority of that being dedicated to establishing the perfect relationship between Ashley and Elliot. For those who aren't a fan of the couple, it can be a slog. [[http://www.egscomics.com/comic/2016-06-22 The author himself has called attention to this fatigue]], and has promised to try to plan out the next arcs better.
19	** Immediately following "So A Date At The Mall" was a Question & Answer Arc, "Part 7: The Requestioning"; said filler arc went on for ''five straight weeks'' (as the creator had said he needed a break to get the next story arcs properly planned out). Q&A fillers arcs are already a divisive to the fans, but this one in particular seemed to drag, not helped that the entire theme of the arc (that everyone was shrunk so they could use a tablet computer as a backboard) was only utilized for a joke in the first couple strips and thereafter was forgotten, and that out of all the questions three of them (the equivalent of an entire week's worth of updates) weren't even about the comic.
20	** "Escape From the Mall", the EGS:NP storyline revolving around a date between Catalina and Rhoda, went on for so long that even the author himself expressed relief when it was finally over.
21	** The “Goonmanji 2” NP arc went on for 6 parts and lasted about a year. The content was also viewed by some as little more than fetish material.
22	** Between March 12, 2014, and August 30, 2017, exactly one in-universe week has elapsed. That's 565 pages and over three real-time years to cover the events of seven days.
23	** "Sister 3" is so long it got split into ''twenty-six'' parts and ran for just over two years. No previous arc has had more than ten divisions.
24	** Immediately following "Sister 3", the second page of "Balance" has two characters awaiting a meeting that was supposed to happen after four weeks, in-universe time. Said promise to meet after four weeks was in fact made in a strip published exactly five years and one day earlier.
25	* BaseBreakingCharacter:
26	** Ashley. Some like her for being a good match for Elliot and a generally decent person, including towards her own seeming romantic rival. Others feel Dan is trying a little too hard to make her TheWoobie. This only got worse on Elliot and Ashley's first date, where the two seems a little ''too'' into each other very quickly, with some fans already accusing Dan of falling prey to the two being StrangledByTheRedString. There's also the fact that she seems a little too accepting of all the weirdness thrust upon her and far too respectful of everyone's privacy, not wanting to probe for information even when pressed for her desire to know more, and the revelation that she has such IncorruptiblePurePureness that not even Pandora can empower her in spite of her fetish for ForcedTransformation.
27	** Rhoda and Catalina. It isn't so much whether people find them likable or interesting, but whether or not they deserve the attention they have been receiving in the comic. Some don't mind the idea of them being upgraded to the main cast, while others think the main cast is already worn a bit thin and some characters (in particular, Justin) aren't getting the screentime they deserve. It doesn't help that they are now the second couple (after Elliot and Ashley) to get an arc and preempt Justin's date with Luke.
28	*** Ironically, Felix and Kitty were only just introduced during Rhoda and Catalina's date arc, but have proved popular with the fans. Dan has even gone on record that a lot of people are actually ''asking'' to see more of them, but is putting that idea on the back-burner since the Rhoda and Catalina date (and the story before it) have gone on for so long he wants to give something else attention, that and he would prefer to give himself some time to figure out what to do with Felix and Kitty before attempting to right a story revolved around them right off the bat.
29	* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: In the middle of the "Sister" storyline, Ted and Sarah are interrupted by Matt and Rat, two characters from Dan's previous comic attempting to pull a HostileShowTakeover. Ted and Sarah just get up and leave while the two bicker over who was the main and the events haven't never touched since.
30	* TheChrisCarterEffect: ScheduleSlip trouble + Dan Shive's love for ChekhovsGun = we should probably give up on expecting getting answers to all of the questions. By 2018 things have started to get better -- Sister 3 made significant headway on multiple plot threads. [[spoiler:Magus got his body, Susan and Diane met and we learned the exact nature of their relationship, Pandora reset, and Magic finally changed -- or rather, didn't.]]
31	* CompleteMonster: [[KnightOfCerebus Damien]], the BigBad of the "Painted Black" arc, was created as an attempt to fulfill a prophecy about one who would unite Human/Alien hybrids known as seyunolus; he took this to mean that he was [[AGodAmI a God]] with an OmniscientMoralityLicense who was meant to [[KillAllHumans kill humanity]]. When some of the people who created him questioned his plan to obtain a group of four seyunolus, Damien decided that they were heretics and killed them. He then went to the company who created the four seyunolus and slaughtered all of their other employees, deliberately killing people in front of the seyunolus to make them fear him. Damien planned to slowly grow the Seyunolu into an army to eliminate humanity, using the sole female seyunolu Grace as breeding stock. When Grace escaped from his nest, Damien sent Hedge out to recapture her, [[YouHaveFailedMe threatening him with death]] if he didn't return with something; when Hedge returns with a transformed Elliot instead, [[BadBoss Damien hits Hedge]] for not returning with a female seyunolu and keeps Elliot tied up and refuses to provide him with food until he reveals information about where he came from. Finally, when Damien was wounded by Grace after he attempted to kill her friends, thus providing possible evidence of his mortality, Damien decides to [[TakingYouWithMe self-destruct]] in order to defeat Grace, deciding that either he was a God and his body was irrelevant, or he was a mortal and life wasn't worth living.
32	* CrossesTheLineTwice: In response to Tedd asking him if he’d ever withhold the truth from him, his father responds that he wouldn’t, and if he had to due to safety reasons or ignorance, [[https://www.egscomics.com/comic/2013-02-12 he’d say so. Or change the subject.]] ''Or fake a seizure.''
33	-->'''Tedd:''' ''(incredulous)'' [[NoodleIncident That was]] ''[[NoodleIncident fake?]]''
34	* DiagnosedByTheAudience: Discussed in [[https://www.egscomics.com/comic/qa8-08 this Q&A]], where it's stated that various characters weren't ''intended'' to be neurodivergent, but that the traits that made the audience think this were autobiographical, it's made Dan introspective.
35	** Since then, Dan's said "SureWhyNot" to some of these diagnoses, [[DiagnosisOfGod stating in the commentary]] of [[https://www.egscomics.com/comic/layers-030 this comic]] that he's pretty sure Tedd has ADHD.
36	** In-universe, [[https://www.egscomics.com/comic/brother-022 Diane guesses Noah might be neurodivergent]], though how much of his autism-like behavior is actually due to [[spoiler: him being a human-uryuom seyunolu]] is debatable.
37	* EnsembleDarkhorse:
38	** Chika won this status after five Q&A comics with her, even despite general "enough of Q&A" reaction on EGS forum. The Demonic Duck, who went from a convenient plot device to a minor character, may also qualify.
39	** Lord Tedd even more so, in spite of being one of the most mysterious figures in the series.
40	** Also Raven once his gloomy and threatening demeanor turned out to [[HiddenHeartOfGold cover that he's a really good guy]], [[BadassTeacher protects his students at all costs]], and is a loving ParentalSubstitute to Noah.
41	* EpilepticTrees: Lots of them, Dan [[http://www.egscomics.com/sketchbook/?date=2010-06-10 has]] [[http://www.egscomics.com/sketchbook/?date=2010-06-17 made]] fun [[http://www.egscomics.com/sketchbook/?date=2010-08-10 of]] this in the [[BonusMaterial Sketchbook]].
42	* FanCommunityNicknames: Members of the fandom are dubbed 'bunnies,' a phenomenon explained [[http://www.egscomics.com/sketchbook/?date=2003-12-30 here]].
43	* FanNickname: Several, mostly relating to bent gender forms.
44	** Man Nanase is Manase, for instance.
45	** Also an ''authorial'' nickname for Assistant Director Liefeld. Author's notes refer to him as "Muscle [=McMuscles=]".
46	** Ellen's [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2010-03-10 cat form]] has garnered the nickname "Katelyn".
47	** Before his name was revealed, fans referred to Abraham as "Rocky."
48	** Some fans who ''can't stand'' the name Cheerleadra tend to use "Mopergirl" as a super hero name for Elliot.
49	** The arc villain of the Family Tree storyline is called not-Tengu by the fans due to the fact that Tengu was just his online handle and no one in-universe was interested in hearing what his real name was, cutting of all his attempts to give his name.
50	** Ashley who has a crush on Elliot is given the nickname Ponytail Girl and variations thereof due to her distinctive side ponytail, and the fact that it took a while before readers learned her name.
51	** [[spoiler: Some fans have taken to calling Elliot's SuperpoweredEvilSide "Fearleadra" as an alternate to Cheerleadra.]]
52	%%Neither of the Fan-Preferred Couple entries mention a creator preferred pairing, which is required to count.
53	%%* FanPreferredCouple:
54	%%** As the Sarah/Elliot ship lost steam, the audience began to support [[OneTrueThreesome folding Sarah into the still-popular Grace/Tedd ship]], as well as pairing Elliot with [[spoiler:Susan]].
55	%%** One of the most popular pairings in the fandom is between [[IfItsYouItsOkay Elliot]] and [[AllLoveIsUnrequited Justin]], as evidenced during a sketchbook where Dan asked his fans to choose which two of his characters would be drawn kissing ... Elliot and Justin won by a ''landslide''!
56	* FriendlyFandoms:
57	** 910Comics (''Webcomic/TheWotch'', ''The Wotch: Webcomic/{{Cheer}}'', ''Webcomic/{{Misfile}}'', etc.) readers used to have insane amounts of overlap with [[FanCommunityNicknames Bunnies]]. Until EGS joined the 910Comics community, after which they became more or less the same fandom. Same with ''Webcomic/ZebraGirl'', and probably others as well.
58	** With the film ''WesternAnimation/TurningRed'' as both feature non-white teen girls, living in North America who can transform, due to their genetic heritage, into large versions of small mammals with large tails and eventually are capable of PartialTransformation and NotQuiteFlight using their abilities. Alternatively, both ''Nanase'' and Mei are literal red-heads, are {{Academic Athlete}}s, can speak English, French and an Asian language, can fly, can transform into forms that were (possibly) bestowed by a deity specifically to protect people and have complex relationships with their {{Education Mama}}s who keep big secrets from them. Plus, Mei's instant transformations are accompanied by poofs of smoke similar to those in EGS.
59	* UsefulNotes/FurryFandom: A segment of the fanbase and heavily played up in early arcs. Hasn't come up as much in later years as Shive grew out of the fandom.
60	* GeniusBonus: In a filler comic, the Demonic Duck informs Dan that he's going to Australia to discover his roots. There is fossil evidence of a large, prehistoric bird that lived in Australia which has come to be known as the "[[FeatheredFiend Demon Duck of Doom".]]
61	* GrowingTheBeard: The first few strips served as a mildly hilarious introduction to the characters with NoFourthWall. The beard stated to grow during the ''Sister'' arc and finished by the end of the ''Painted Black'' arc or the end of ''Grace's Birthday Party'' depending on who you ask.
62	* HarsherInHindsight:
63	** [[https://www.egscomics.com/comic/2007-11-24 This comic]] has an ImagineSpot from Tedd in which Grace ignores a bunch of buff, macho guys [[SingleTargetSexuality while thinking only of Tedd]]. One of the buff guys brags that "Our mothers love us!", which seems like a random, silly boast for them to be making. That is, until details of Tedd's mother start coming to light, with all of them thus far suggesting that her reasons for leaving had something to do with Tedd showing a complete lack of magic potential.
64	** When Susan starts to explain the [[NoodleIncident long-unknown]] events that occurred in France, she alludes to the [[spoiler: [[OurVampiresAreDifferent not-vampire]]]] that's involved, when Grace calls her [[spoiler:[[ShoutOut "Susan the Vampire Slayer"]]]]. Yeah, [[spoiler:[[MercyKill guess how that]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone story ended.]]]]
65	** A lighter example occurs when Ellen laughs at the revelation that Elliot must release his magic buildup by turning into a girl, while she just has to shoot beams. Then she learns that she only has to do so a couple times each morning while Elliot has to transform ''every six hours'' and go to sleep transformed. She feels so guilty that Elliot has to ''encourage'' her to joke about it.
66	** Panel 2 of [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=269 this comic]] has Ed making a joke about son's tendency for transformation. Funny then, not so funny when the [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=2012 same scene]] is part of a montage showing his disapproval of Tedd's gender fluidity.
67	** After the initial discovery of the transformation mirror, [[https://www.egscomics.com/comic/party-232 some jokes]] are made about Noriko's willingness to use a broken magical artifact for cosmetic spells rather than spending her own magic or taking time to do her cosmetics by hand. And then [[https://www.egscomics.com/comic/party-244 we find out]] [[TwoFaced what she was hiding under those cosmetics]].
68	* HilariousInHindsight:
69	** Some early strips showed Grace playing an {{Expy}} of ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' using a [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Pikachu]] {{Expy}} that was a squirrel instead of a mouse. Come the 4th generation of Pokémon games and we now have Pachirisu, an electric squirrel.
70	** One strip has a character write a letter to Nintendo asking for more female representation, particularly asking Princess Daisy to be in a mainline ''Mario'' game. Then comes her in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRun'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosWonder''.
71	** In TheRant for [[https://www.egscomics.com/comic/2013-10-07 the first strip]] in the "Identity" storyline Dan claims that it's called that because he has a dart board with words on it to help him name storylines. He mentions that if the dart landed an inch to the right, it would have been called "Pizza". Six years later, Dan would indeed name [[https://www.egscomics.com/egsnp/pizza-01 a storyline]] "Pizza", albeit a non-canon one.
72	** Mr. Raven's and Diane's interaction in [[https://www.egscomics.com/comic/2008-02-05 this comic]] becomes more humorous once we learn that [[spoiler:Raven is Diane's biological father]], something the author hadn't even planned at that point.
73	** In [[https://www.egscomics.com/comic/2004-12-17 this comic from 2004]], Melissa and Noah, in their own ways, dismiss the notion that Diane, Lucy, and Rhoda were flirting with Nanase.[[note]]While Noah surmises their actual intent, Melissa assumes they were hitting on Justin.[[/note]] As of 2018, ALL THREE girls, PLUS Nanase, are dating girls.
74	-->'''Melissa:''' Girls hitting on girls? As trendy as that would be, I kind of doubt it.
75	* IKnewIt: There is a section on the [[WMG/ElGoonishShive fan speculation page]] with confirmed or partially confirmed pages. Dan Shive has also mentioned in commentaries that he received messages from fans that correctly guessed certain plot points on several instances.
76	* JerkassWoobie: Magus. He was forced into the astral plane of the main character's dimension against his will by sabotage of a magical tool, where if immortals weren't trying to outright kill him they were using him to entertain themselves for a sociopathic game of chance. However, he also the responsible for creating Ellen for no other reason than to have a magical version of Tedd's technological body-changing beam with little regard to the life he created (until later), and partnered with an Aberration to body snatch Ellen, so that he could in turn body snatch Elliot, while kidnapping Ashley, just so he could use a magical artifact to get his physical body back. His status as a Jerkass Woobie even gets brought up in-universe by both Elliot and Arthur, where they understand that Magus was given a real bum deal and really was given no other chance to survive, but still can't really be forgiven for purposely hurting so many people along the way and then just running away to avoid all consequence of his actions.
77	** To a lesser extent, Lucy. She's snappy, grumpy and isn't afraid to talk down to or insult, well, anyone really causing her to come off as thoroughly unpleasant. Then "The Legend of Diane" happens which shines an entirely new light on her: she had been insecure because of her height and [[BuxomBeautyStandard "development"]] but Diane's intervention and support led to Lucy developing a crush on her. But over the years she watched Diane date boys and turn into a naive gold digger, dragging Lucy and Rhoda along with her while being blissfully ignorant of the reputation that all of them were developing because of it. Worse yet, she has to stand by and watch Diane openly gush about Nanase while her own crush remains unrequited. The entire experience has seemingly left her angry and bitter while [[BrokenPedestal Diane's pedestal has been thoroughly broken]]. Like her or not it becomes hard not to feel bad for her.
78	** Also, Pandora, an Immortal who has deliberately lived far beyond her time and gone insane over it, with an innate love to mess with people's lives and a tendency to be either completely callous regarding the troubles she causes, or outright murderous when something sets her off, not to speak of being intrusive to people's minds. [[spoiler:Her husband was murdered, and she decided to stay alive instead of resetting herself so she would always remember him and be able to be there for their son (of whom her actions estranged her meanwhile). Also, turns out she's fiercely protective of her god-grandson and everyone she regards belonging to him... which also means there are crazy lengths she's willing to go for them.]]
79	* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Elliot, ''Elliot'', '''''ELLIOT'''''. Fandom has shipped him with Justin and Tedd. In-Universe, now that [[spoiler:his relationship with Sarah is over]], he has being {{Ship Tease}}d with Susan, Diane and Ashley. And not to mention his {{Erotic Dream}}ing involving girls who're already in a relationship (and some of them with an IncompatibleOrientation), like Grace, Nanase and even Catalina claiming to be [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=1766 his lover]]. More recently, [[spoiler:he has admitted to some lowkey attraction to [[HoYay Noah]].]]
80	* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: One of the main threats in ''Sister III'' is magic changing, causing the entire [[MagicAIsMagicA magic system]] to be altered and everyone but a select few to have to start gaining magic again from scratch. Considering the comic spent a decade expositing about how magic and each characters' individual spells work (and ''just did'' and entire NP arc explaining all of Ellen's spells in detail), it was fairly obvious that magic wasn't going to change completely.
81	* MemeticBadass: Starting with [[http://egscomics.com/?date=2010-09-24 the fight with the fire monster]], the author began ascribing this status to Justin.
82	* {{Moe}}:
83	** Sarah, Rhoda, Grace, Catalina to a lesser extent, even ''Susan'' [[http://www.egscomics.com/egsnp/?date=2010-02-12 can be]]. On the (usually) male side, Tedd and Justin.
84	** Nanase's hairstyle in ''Dawn of a New Era'' also evokes this, at least to WordOfGod.
85	* MoralEventHorizon: Being an aberration. Aberrations are monsters that feed on human life force, and all aberrations were once human who made the ''choice'' to become that way. All ways of 'feeding' on life force thus far have been shown as ranging from [[PuppeteerParasite body snatching]] to [[VampiricDraining blood drinking]] to full on [[ImAHumanitarian people eating]], and it's said outright aberrations not only feel no guilt over their actions, they ''revel'' in it.
86	* {{Narm}}:
87	** Catalina asks Susan to go out with her, Susan declines, and Catalina runs off. This was a dramatic moment... right up until Catalina says "Assjack!" (a reversal of the highly temperamental GenkiGirl's favorite word, "Jackass(es)!").
88	** The BigBad dramatically [[https://www.egscomics.com/comic/2009-11-13 revealing her name]] could've been an epic moment, except it is utterly impossible to take an EldritchAbomination who has chosen to call herself ''Pandora Chaos Raven'' seriously. It's the kind of thing a disaffected goth girl would come up with, not an immortal godlike being. It's probably for the best that the comic immediately ignored the "Chaos" part after that. Plus, Raven being the surname of her [[TheLostLenore late husband]] makes the name a lot more meaningful, although the initial reveal still comes off as pretty goofy.
89	* OlderThanTheyThink: Some fans are uncomfortable with how close Elliot and Ashley are on the first date, up to sharing a dressing room in the mall and then making out. Thing is, this isn't all that different from when Elliot was dating Nanase way back when the comic started, the two having a very physical relationship and even having a regular tradition of making out after sparring matches. Many fans may have just forgotten this due to the fact soon after Elliot started dating Sarah, with the two having a generally non-sexual relationship (due to them realizing afterwards they shared a much more platonic/brother-sister kind of love as opposed to a romantic attraction) and the fact that Elliot is later characterized as being uncomfortable fantasizing about women. His relationship with Ashley is more of a CharacterCheck to how he originally was than an OutOfCharacterMoment.
90	* {{OT3}}: [[http://www.egscomics.com/sketchbook.php?id=843 Grace/Tedd/Sarah]], the ship started when Sarah became Tedds assistant and fan love for the ship has grown and grown. [[ThreesomeSubtext There is also quite a bit of actual ship tease for it too,]] to the point where in-universe [[https://www.egscomics.com/egsnp/wao1-005 at least one character isn't 100% sure they aren't in a poly relationship]]. For instance, in the early comic when Grace kissed Sarah after Tedd told her too, and then scenes like [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=2015 this are fairly common for the three]] after Sarah joined them. Tedd accidentally kissed Sarah, because she was transformed into Grace. [[http://www.egscomics.com/egsnp.php?id=205 Tedd also mentions]] [[DidIJustSayThatOutLoud that he, Grace, and Sarah have all seen each other naked a lot due to clothing damage being a frequent result of their experiments.]]
91	** Recently, Grace has admitted to herself that she’d like for Sarah (and Ellen) to live with her and Tedd and all sleep on a giant beanbag.
92	* ShipSinking: [[HoYay Elliot and Justin]] are still a popular couple for the shippers, but as the comic progresses, there have been a number of things that the author has done to sink this ship, not limited to basically hammering that Elliot is straight with no gay leanings whatsoever, and having Justin seemingly get over his crush on Elliot off-screen.[[note]]Elliot has shown some attraction towards males since, but they usually play with the idea of Elliot being in a girl form when admitting this. This still leaves him incompatible with Justin, as Justin is entirely homosexual; he does not want to be a girl for Elliot to like him, and is only attracted to masculine-presenting men and not Elliot in a girl form[[/note]]
93	* ShipToShipCombat:
94	** With the raising ShipTease between [[spoiler:Elliot and Susan]], there have been mixed reactions. [[spoiler:Elliot is the perfect candidate as Susan's potential love interest, since he literally "fails at perversion" and Susan's looking for a good man. But Elliot is already in a relationship with Sarah, Susan's best friend, so she's in risk to fall into an unfavorable situation]]. In-universe, [[spoiler:Sarah decides to break up with Elliot shortly before Elliot realizes [[LikeBrotherAndSister she's like a sister to him]], and she has no problem just handing him off to Susan (though she doesn't think it's likely)]].
95	** And with that particular combat resolved, it's now a bit of an InUniverse race between [[spoiler: Susan and her IdenticalStranger Diane]]. And they BOTH got scooped by Ashley.
96	* {{Squick}}:
97	** The reason Damien wanted Grace so badly was so he could use her for [[spoiler:''breeding''.]]
98	** Never mind the FridgeHorror of the ''Family Tree'' arc. Punch spiking is one thing, but [[spoiler:turning everyone into women, who are absolutely submissive and readily calling people their lord]]? That's pretty damn icky.
99	* StrangledByTheRedString: Ashley and Elliot look like this to some readers, especially since it's been pointed out in-story (by Grace) that they started dating ''very'' early after Elliot's last break-up, and (by Liz) how weird it is that Elliot seriously claims to love Ashley after round about three weeks. It made sense when he and Sarah said they loved each other early on in their relationship because they knew each other for several years, but the first time Elliot ever spoke to Ashley was the day he asked her out. Aside from them providing fetish material for one another (Elliot likes Ashley mainly for her IncorruptiblePurePureness, Ashley is into him because of her being a TransChaser), their relationship is not developed all that well, and yet Dan Shive keeps hammering home just how much the two of them are in love and perfect for each other... which would be easier to buy if Ashley wasn't basically just a fangirl constantly gushing over Elliot and the other main cast members.
100	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
101	** Lord Tedd, Tedd's EvilCounterpart from an alternate universe, was set up as a major antagonist early in the strip, but was dropped very quickly. WordOfGod is that he was introduced far too early and will be coming back... ''eventually''. [[WebcomicTime The rate at which the story progresses]] means it's been years since that statement with no sign of his return.
102	** Grace's brothers, after pulling a HeelFaceTurn, were sent off to a facility to learn to adjust to society. It took years just for Vladia to return as a side character, while the others still have yet to make any reappearance at all.
103	** Justin is starting to appear this way, as out of all the original cast he typically gets the least amount of the focus. Story arcs such as his unresolved crush on Elliot or his date with Luke have been cast to the wayside and it seems unlikely either will ever get much focus later on. This does makes sense, however, since Justin is the only male homosexual character in the cast whereas the author seems to have more of a penchant of characters who are female, enjoy transforming into females, or are a combination thereof while being attracted to females. A male character who wants to be male and is attracted to other males just isn't something Dan shows much of desire to explore.
104	* UglyCute: Chaos in her CreepyChild form.
105	** Also Pandora/Chaos when she's in her EldritchAbomination form, at least when [[http://www.egscomics.com/egsnp.php?id=490 she's waking up after a long nap.]]
106	* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
107	** Justin comes off as quite selfish on occasions, such as when he complains about Elliot transforming into a girl, because Justin is only attracted to him when Elliot's male, or when he just ''has'' to interrupt [[http://egscomics.com/comic/2006-01-20 a romantic moment]] between Elliot and Sarah, or gets whiny about Elliot calling him cute when ''Justin'' is transformed into a girl. Sure, IncompatibleOrientation sucks, and so does being lovesick, but Justin has known for a long time now that Elliot isn't interested in guys, and begrudging his relationships even though he knows he doesn't stand a chance is just petty. It's a relief when he grows out of this behavior later and moves on.
108	** Also Tara, who's threatening and trying to kill Elliot based on a number of assumptions, and doesn't even hear out his attempt to explain that he really has no idea about what's going on. Yes, she's in search for her wife and clearly worried, but all of her accusations and brutality eventually boil down to the fact that she missed a crucial information much earlier because she didn't ''listen'', which makes her violent attack at the mall seem really unjustified. Her being all obscure about her own affairs but running around blabbing out Elliot's secrets doesn't help, either.
109	** Melissa most certainly qualifies. To be fair, her backstory is understandable in that she was heartbroken when Justin came out to her as gay, and then was betrayed when the one person she talked to about this (her gossip of a sister) went and told ''everyone'' about it, Noah was correct in that was a betrayal to both Justin and Melissa. However, after that Melissa would ping pong between blissful ignorance to Justin's feelings and pretending he would 'just get over the gay thing' so they could be happy again, or depression edging on self-harm over her guilt. The thing is, Justin is treated as if ''he's'' the bad guy because he doesn't want to interact with her anymore or that he somehow owes her closure, despite her coming off as toxic and mentally unhinged. Justin is pretty much browbeat by his friends and Melissa's friends that he "owes" it to her to give her closure, with no one respecting the notion Justin may just never want to interact with Melissa ever again, and her issues are her own to deal with herself or with a professional. Everyone glosses over the fact Justin may not have still been so angry or resentful of her if she and Noah would just stop bothering him at school or at his job, and respected his right to have space.
110	* ValuesDissonance: Discussions of sex and gender have come a long way since the comic started in 2002. As a result, many of the early comics mocking sex-changing transformations now look downright transphobic. The comic actually addresses this, with Grace eventually [[https://www.egscomics.com/comic/2017-03-29 calling out Elliot]] for his [[https://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=138 disgusted reaction]] to seeing Tedd's female form for the first time.
111	* ViewerGenderConfusion:
112	** Crops up from time to time in and out of universe, particularly with Tedd. Arguably justified in some of the non-canon comics, as Dan Shive is known to draw characters switching sex within the same comic with no explanation and no attention drawn to it, just to see if readers are paying attention. This was even exploited for the sake of a reveal in the Squirrel Prophet arc to hide when [[spoiler:Tedd spontaneously turned into a girl]] and no one noticed in-universe.
113	** In one comic, Susan got hit with this when viewers suspected she might be male because the lighting made her chest appear flat. To be fair, a lot of the gender benders in the series ''are'' fairly androgynous, with bust size often being the only significant change between their forms.
114	* TheWoobie:
115	** Tedd, Grace, Susan, Justin, Rhoda, and Dex are prime examples. Especially Grace.
116	** One Way Road basically is Tedd with his Woobie-ness cranked up to eleven.
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